FORKNI-L
FORKNI-L Digest - 5 Oct 2000 to 6 Oct 2000 (#2000-310)
Fri, 6 Oct 2000
There are 17 messages totalling 629 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. New RARE FK Stuff!
2. FK/GWD themes
3. night in question, any doctors/nurses on the list? (3)
4. Thursday evening KtK auction update
5. additional items added to KtK auction
6. Natalie Question
7. date set for Mission GK 2000!!!!
8. Lisa Ryder on "Andromeda"
9. Who is "Eva"? (2)
10. Ancient Roman History Questions
11. Friday morning KtK auction update
12. Latin Scholar?
13. Episode Guide (2)
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Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 18:50:44 +0000
From: Kristin <kris1228@s.......>
Subject: New RARE FK Stuff!
Hi everyone,
I thought you all might like to know about this. I got a RARE FK Season 1
Press Kit recently, which I won for a large sum of money off ebay!! :) And
so here's the things in it I scanned...
I added 13 new "slide" scans to the Cast Photo sections. Some are new RARE
shots you have never seen, and others are better replacements of my photo
scans. The slide scans are even better than photo scans so take a look at
these and enjoy! I also added 7 new RARE FK photos from it too.
Enjoy!
Kristin
http://members.xoom.com/forever_nick/Forever_Knight
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Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 20:13:23 -0500
From: Carla and Frank Martinek <copper6500@y.......>
Subject: FK/GWD themes
Is this person on our list?
http://hometown.aol.com/JBMac1701/themes2.htm
Found this while looking for something TOTALLY unrelated to FK! (well, sort
of.. graveyard web themes).
Anyway, I glance at the index on the left, and see themes for FK and GWD!
-Carla
copper6500@y.......
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Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 21:23:00 -0400
From: Diane Harris <diharris@v.......>
Subject: night in question, any doctors/nurses on the list?
All right, in the opening scene of Night in Question, when they're wheeling
Nick into the ER, the doctor spiels off a whole bunch of medical babble that
I'm finding hard to interpret.
1. Oculovestibular reflexes
My guess on this one is that it means Nick's pupils weren't dilating when
they shined a light in his eyes. Is that right? I dunno... ocular...
reflexes... it kind of works...
2. Spastic hemiplegia
Totally don't know this one. What the heck is it? Just going by my
knowledge of roots and stuff all I'm coming up with is jerky blood... and
that just doesn't seem right to me :)
Anyone know?
Diane Harris (diharris@v.......)
Proud NNPacker, Knightie, FoDs, CoTK, and glutton for any and all feedback.
http://filebox.vt.edu/users/diharris/Homepage.htm
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Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 21:22:11 EDT
From: Knightwave@a.......
Subject: Thursday evening KtK auction update
Here's the Thursday evening update. So far the total pledged is $836.00,
which is only half toward the cost of the half page ad. We have a bit to
go yet... Don't forget -- you can use your credit card to pay for your
choices if you want, so don't hang back if you really want something.
<smile> Bids will be accepted through 11:59 p.m. EST on Sunday,
October 8, 2000. Send all bids to me at Knightwave@a........ Include
Item name and #, amount of bid and name you want listed with bid.
Please place bid or auction in header.
Susan has pulled together a few extra items to go to high bid amounts.
Any winning bids over $50.00 will receive their choice of our selection
of KtK buttons in addition to the articles bid on. $100.00 can choose
their choice from our mousepad designs, and anyone over $150.00 can
choose from both. This is just a little something extra to show our
appreciation for the fansâ support of our efforts. <g>
The auction may now be accessed through the KtK website, or go directly
to the auction page: http://members.aol.com/ktkpage/auction.htm
Auction Update -- Thursday, October 5, 2000, 9:00pm
Notice any errors? Please contact me at knightwave@a....... with the
correction.
#1 $50.00 Betsy License plate, cap, pin
#2 $50.00 Marti autographed NB (Hamlet) poster
#3 $12.00 Wanda Conspiracy of Fear tape, tag
#4 $50.00 Ravenhope NB photo, autographed Daily Variety magazine
new #5 $50.00 NdeB FK Prop- Tracy's business card & pic
#6 $12.00 Wanda False Witness script, keychain
new #7 $50.00 Emily Fanzines
#8 $10.00 Jules Beanie baby Rat, Greg Kramer autograph
#9 $175.00 Steph Fate Worse Than Death script & prop
new #10 $60.00 Sukh A More Permanent Hell script, tag
#11 $15.00 Debi The Fix script, Natalie keychain
new #12 $15.00 Ravenhope Ribena box autographed by NBennet, glass
#13 $10.00 Jules Program autographed by Greg Kramer, suncatcher, book
#14 $15.00 Di For I Have Sinned script, N&N tag
#15 $25.00 Karen Dying For Fame script, Nick tag
#16 $20.00 Di Dance By the Light of the Moon script, Nick tag
new #17 $112.28 Debbie 2001 Calendar
#18 $20.00 Di Killer Instinct script
#19 $30.00 Linda Loads of autographs from Light, Camera, Auction
#20 $20.00 JGerry Xtra issues with Greg's story featured (sensitive
subject matter -- consult web page for info)
#21 $15.00 Sukh FoD's Cookbook, magnet
#22 $25.00 Emily FoD's cookbook & KtK button
#23 $ Forever Knight t-shirt & cap
#24 $ The Crew (Vachon, Urs & Screed t-shirt)
Special offer: For a $200.00 donation: Sealed CD Forever Knight
soundtrack, & gray t-shirt with gorgeous illustration of Vachon in black
(size medium)
Thanks for everyone's participation. We really appreciate your support.
Enjoy,
April
knightwave@a.......
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Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 21:32:33 EDT
From: Knightwave@a.......
Subject: additional items added to KtK auction
Okay guys, to spice up the bidding a little, here are a couple of extra
things to bid on. Hope they spark interest. <g>
#23
Forever Knight t-shirt (X-large) and matching FK baseball cap (black top/red
brim)
Donated by: KtK
#24
T-shirt (gray with black illustration) of The Crew -- Vachon/Urs/Screed.
Size (Large). Comes with a brand new KtK button
Donated by: KtK
For a $200.00 donation:
Sealed CD Forever Knight soundtrack (more music from the original soundtrack)
Featuring Ger and John Kapelos actually speaking on it.
plus
Gray t-shirt with gorgeous illustration of Vachon in black (medium)
Donated by: KtK
Hope one of these tickles your interest. <g>
Enjoy,
April
knightwave@a.......
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Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 22:44:36 -0400
From: Judith A Cataldo <JUDYCAT@p.......>
Subject: Re: night in question, any doctors/nurses on the list?
> All right, in the opening scene of Night in Question, when they're wheeling
> Nick into the ER, the doctor spiels off a whole bunch of medical babble that
> I'm finding hard to interpret.
I had problems with this episode when it first aired mostly because of the
strange medical things. Like Nick having a rythmn on the heart monitor
(which we know from the script was supposed to be because Natalie had it set
to give a standard read-out) but which made no sense in the aired episode.
I don't think I noticed all of the techo-babble but this stuff is mostly
made up or things that wouldn't be said. Obviously they didn't watch ER.
>
> 1. Oculovestibular reflexes
Oculo refers to the eyes but vestibular refers to the inner ear and I was
never aware they had reflexes. When someone comes in unconscious or with
altered mental status you look for how the pupils react to light, if they
are equal, how long it takes them to react. Normaly this is refered to as
PEARL-"pupils equal and reactive to light" If someone has brain damage one
pupil might be "blown" or a lot larger than the other.
> 2. Spastic hemiplegia
Hemipeligia is paraylisis of the legs/below the waist, spastic means they
are in spasm or rigid. These 2 words could go together but I've never heard
them. The term you might hear on ER or medical shows of someone who has had
a head injury is "posturing/decerebrate posturing" or "Postured" which
refers to a specific way the muscles have tightened up.
I suspect just as they threw continuity to the wind they didn't bother to
find someone who knew the right terms to use.
Judy
RN since 1975
judycat@p.......
http://pages.prodigy.net/judycat
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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 07:12:13 -0400
From: Stephanie Kellerman <stephke@i.......>
Subject: Re: night in question, any doctors/nurses on the list?
According to Medscape
Spastic hemiplegia is ( total or partial paralysis of one side of the body that
results from disease of or injury to the motor centers of the brain affected
with or marked by spasticity ie spastic paralysis <a spas·tic patient>
<spas·tic hemiplegia> )
Haven't had time to look up "oculo?? ocular?? vestibular reflexes" yet.
--
Steph
stephke@i.......
ftp://ftp.win.net/winnet/fkvoyage/fkfanfic/
"The sea..where each man, as in a mirror, finds himself", Richard Basehart as
Ishmael
"If you obey all the rules, you miss all the fun." Katherine Hepburn
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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 08:37:29 -0500
From: Valerie Kessler <valerie@w.......>
Subject: Re: Natalie Question
Everything everyone has said so far (at least in yesterday's digest)
about scrubs is true. Some people do also buy their own. Depends on
facility policy and personal taste.
As for the specific question, no, I never saw any sort of logo or
insignia on Nat's at any point in the series. And they were uniformly
blue-green (not unlike the Caddy, now that I think about it *g*), with
the occasional white lab coat or smock thrown in for variety (and often
having little to do with what she was actually working on in the scene).
--
Valerie Meachum Kessler
valerie@w....... ~ www.wiliqueen.com
"...and Dianne starting ranting from the skies about Bast as
'the keeper of the Eye of Ra, the one from whom all Gods proceed.'
Meanwhile, mythology chick over there is going, 'Hel-LO? Party
goddess? Aphrodite with a cat head?!?!?!?'" -- Lizbet
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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 09:39:19 EDT
From: Libratsie@a.......
Subject: date set for Mission GK 2000!!!!
Greg "Screed" Kramer will be appearing on stage as Gollum in THE HOBBIT at
Toronto's Young Peoples Theatre. On Saturday, November 11, 2000, I hope to get a
group together to go see what is certain to be a wonderful production.
You do NOT have to be a member of the greg kramer fan klub to attend. Current
plans call for a room party (perhaps with pizza) prior to the 7 p.m. show, going
as a group to the theater, then doing something, perhaps a drink or snack after
the show. If someone can bring a vcr, we will watch some exclusive gk videos
during the room party.
There are NO promises Greg will go with us after the show. Stage performances
are grueling and we need to respect that he may be exhausted or have other
conflicts. However, I will say that he DID go with us last time a Mission GK was
held and we all had a blast!
The theatre box office is NOT set up so that I can reserve seats and then have
individuals call in to pay for their personal tickets. If you want to sit with
the group, please get with me ASAP as I'll order a group of tickets within the
next few weeks (of course I'll be collecting money for them). If you are
uncomfortable sending me money (which I understand!) or are not sure if you can
attend, don't worry! You can order your own ticket and we'll have a
predesignated meeting place after the performance to hook up again.
For ticket prices and futher info, check out the theatre's webpage at:
http://www.ypt.ca
(Those in the US, remember that the US dollar is strong against the Canadian
one, so the conversion of US to Canadian dollar is in our favor)
If you are even THINKING about going, please contact me off list. There's
details and such that I'll want to keep you up to date on.
By the way, if you decide at the last minute to go (well, a few weeks before the
date), that's fine, just let me know as I need to know how many to expect (for
"momento" purposes). If you are attending LCA3 in October and decided you need
another immediate excuse to travel back to Toronto, that's fine! LOL!
Hope to hear from a few of you!
--Libs
LibRatsie@a.......
greg kramer fan klub prez
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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 10:33:36 EDT
From: Doņa Angel <donaangel@h.......>
Subject: Re: Lisa Ryder on "Andromeda"
From: Carla Martinek <copper6500@y.......>
<snip>
>BTW - WGN-TV will be carrying the premier of Andromeda on Sat, Oct 14, >at
>7pm Central US time.<snip>The commonwealth has fallen apart, and >Lisa
>plays the captain of a (pirate/tramp) freighter.
In the Philadelphia, PA area, "Andromeda" will be carried by WB {channel 17}
[the same station that carries "Angel" and "Buffy TVS"]-- and it will be on
{tomorrow} Saturday, OCT. 7 at 7:00 pm, and while my local TV guide type
book doesn't give any description of the ep, my Digital Cable info describes
the ep, and it seems that this Saturday's ep is the beginning of the series.
Angel a.k.a. Doņa Angel
Vaquera/Willing Slave of THE Glorious Spaniard/Future Proud Vaq
Brat/VaqDreamer/INCArnate/with Immortal Beloveds,Ravenette,Urchin &
DarkHearts Tendencies
Check out BBFC Web site: http://www.benbassfanclub.com
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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 10:38:50 EDT
From: Doņa Angel <donaangel@h.......>
Subject: Who is "Eva"?
Hi!
Can someone tell me who the FK character "Eva" is? I have seen this name
listed in at least 3 FK polls [in a FK Fav Couple poll, she is listed with
Nick], but I cannot recall any character in the FK television series by that
name.
Thanks!
Angel a.k.a. Doņa Angel
Vaquera/Willing Slave of THE Glorious Spaniard/Future Proud Vaq
Brat/VaqDreamer/INCArnate/with Immortal Beloveds, Ravenette,Urchin &
DarkHearts Tendencies
Check out BBFC Web site: http://www.benbassfanclub.com
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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 12:06:04 EDT
From: Doņa Angel <donaangel@h.......>
Subject: Ancient Roman History Questions
Greetings!
I hope that some of you who ae familiar with Ancient Roman History and other
History and military experts can help me with some info for fanfic.
Prior to and during LaCroix's MORTAL life, Spain was part of the Roman
Empire, correct? In Collier's Encyclopedia, in the section on Spain, it
states: "By the first century A.D. Andalusia was Romanized and the native
languages had disappeared.<snip> Southerned Spain was the most Romanized of
the provinces, producing the first provincial council; the emperors Trajan
and Hadrian, and such writers as Martial, Quintilian, the Senecas, and
Lucan."
#1) During the MORTAL lifetime, what would SPAIN have been called by the
Romans and also by the native people of Spain?
#2) Could a man, born and raised in Spain, have served in the Roman Army?
a) Would he have been a slave, or would he had to have been the son of a
member of Spanish nobility and/or the son of a Senator, possibily his father
representing one or all of the Spanish provinces?
b) How high in rank could such man have risen in the Roman army? I am
thinking of him as being close to Lucius' age, and him serving in General
LC's regiment {would that have been a legion, or something bigger?} What
would have been his title and the term for the section of LC's army that he
could have commanded.-- He would be of a high enough rank that General
Lucius would have been very much aware of him as a soldier.
#3) While I think Christianity may not have entered Spain during LC's mortal
lifetime, the Romans were aware of it at that time, and there have even been
Roman soldiers who, because they were Christians, were martyred. IF a
Spaniard serving in LC's regiment/army had secretly embraced Christianity
and due to his new found faith, had refused to carry out or permit or relay
the General's command to the men under his particular command to commit
horrible acts on the people they had conquered --e.g. LC had allowed his men
to rape, etc., the women of the Gauls, I think in the presence of the
conquered men, as he and the Senator talked about at Seline's party-- I am
assuming this blatent disobedience of the General's order may have been
looked at as something equivalent to mutiny. Is it plausible that LC would
have executed such an officer right there on the battlefield-- with or
without the benefit of trial?-- and would LC have simply himself or had
someone else 'run him thru with a sword' or would his head have been cut
off? [I am aware that the Christian Saints Peter and Paul were martyred--
both had been Jews, and St. Peter had been crucified {upside down, because
he did not feel he was worthy to die like Jesus}, but St. Paul was also a
Roman citizen which entitled him to be beheaded instead of crucified-- and
prior to his death, when he had been flogged and imprisioned, because he was
a Roman citizen, he should not have been flogged and told his jailers so--
they probably had not known of his Roman citizenship before whipping him.]
My point is that being a Roman citizen, would a high ranking officer who
disobeyed his commanding general's order in the 'field of battle'-- would he
have received the ancient Roman equivalent of a court-martial and what and
when could he have probably been executed.
#4) General Lucias may or may not have known of said officer's Christian
faith before-- in your opinions as FK fans familiar with LC, if LC had
already known of the Spaniard's as being a man of high moral character and a
man of horor, as well as respected him as a superb soldier and officer, do
you think he would have respected such a man's strong conviction, yet would
have executed him out of anger or because it was something that he had to do
to a rebellious subordinate in a combate situation? And would LC's opinions
and actions have been negatively influenced by his possible perspective of
the officer's religious faith?
Thank you!
Angel a.k.a. Doņa Angel
<donaangel@h.......> <donaangel@y.......>
Vaquera/Willing Slave of THE Glorious Spaniard/Future Proud Vaq
Brat/VaqDreamer/INCArnate/with Immortal Beloveds, Ravenette,Urchin &
DarkHearts Tendencies
Check out BBFC Web site: http://www.benbassfanclub.com
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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 12:30:59 +0000
From: Kristin <kris1228@s.......>
Subject: Re: Who is "Eva"?
It has her listed on the intenet movie database as Eva when you look up the
actress who played her. She was the vampire in Sons of Belial at the Raven
that Nick became quite infactuated with, and almost choked to death.
Kristin
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doņa Angel" <donaangel@h.......>
To: <FORKNI-L@l.......>
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 2:38 PM
Subject: Who is "Eva"?
> Hi!
> Can someone tell me who the FK character "Eva" is? I have seen this name
> listed in at least 3 FK polls [in a FK Fav Couple poll, she is listed with
> Nick], but I cannot recall any character in the FK television series by that
> name.
> Thanks!
>
> Angel a.k.a. Doņa Angel
> Vaquera/Willing Slave of THE Glorious Spaniard/Future Proud Vaq
> Brat/VaqDreamer/INCArnate/with Immortal Beloveds, Ravenette,Urchin &
> DarkHearts Tendencies
> Check out BBFC Web site: http://www.benbassfanclub.com
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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 13:14:17 EDT
From: Knightwave@a.......
Subject: Friday morning KtK auction update
Here's the Friday morning update. So far the total pledged is $884.00,
toward the $1630.00 for a half page ad. We have a bit to go yet...
Don't forget -- you can use your credit card to pay for your choices if you
want, so don't hang back if you really want something. <smile> Bids
will be accepted through 11:59 p.m. EST on Sunday, October 8, 2000.
Send all bids to me at Knightwave@a........ Include Item name and #,
amount of bid and name you want listed with bid. Please place bid or
auction in header.
Susan has pulled together a few extra items to go to high bid amounts.
Any winning bids over $50.00 will receive their choice of our selection
of KtK buttons in addition to the articles bid on. $100.00 can choose
their choice from our mousepad designs, and anyone over $150.00 can
choose from both. This is just a little something extra to show our
appreciation for the fansâ support of our efforts. <g>
The auction may now be accessed through the KtK website,
http://www.ktk.op.nu/ or go directly to the auction page:
http://members.aol.com/ktkpage/auction.htm
Auction Update -- Friday, October 6, 2000, 11:30am
Notice any errors? Please contact me at knightwave@a....... with the
correction.
#1 $50.00 Betsy License plate, cap, pin
#2 $50.00 Marti autographed NB (Hamlet) poster
#3 $12.00 Wanda Conspiracy of Fear tape, tag
#4 $50.00 Ravenhope NB photo, autographed Daily Variety magazine
new #5 $50.00 NdeB FK Prop- Tracy's business card & pic
#6 $12.00 Wanda False Witness script, keychain
new #7 $50.00 Emily Fanzines
#8 $10.00 Jules Beanie baby Rat, Greg Kramer autograph
#9 $175.00 Steph Fate Worse Than Death script & prop
new #10 $60.00 Sukh A More Permanent Hell script, tag
#11 $15.00 Debi The Fix script, Natalie keychain
new #12 $15.00 Ravenhope Ribena box autographed by NBennet, glass
#13 $10.00 Jules Program autographed by Greg Kramer, suncatcher, book
#14 $15.00 Di For I Have Sinned script, N&N tag
#15 $25.00 Karen Dying For Fame script, Nick tag
#16 $20.00 Di Dance By the Light of the Moon script, Nick tag
new #17 $120.00 Steph 2001 Calendar
#18 $20.00 Di Killer Instinct script
#19 $30.00 Linda Loads of autographs from Light, Camera, Auction
#20 $20.00 JGerry Xtra issues with Greg's story featured (sensitive
subject matter -- consult web page for info)
#21 $15.00 Sukh FoD's Cookbook, magnet
#22 $25.00 Emily FoD's cookbook & KtK button
new #23 $25.00 Cia FK t-shirt (black shirt with Forever in white &
Knight in red lettering) & cap
#24 $10.00 Libby The Crew (Vachon, Urs & Screed t-shirt)
Special offer: For a $200.00 donation: Sealed CD Forever Knight
soundtrack, & gray t-shirt with gorgeous illustration of Vachon in black
(size medium)
Thanks for everyone's participation. We really appreciate your support.
Enjoy,
April
knightwave@a.......
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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 09:56:15 -0400
From: Portia 1 <portia1@m.......>
Subject: Latin Scholar?
I need some slight help on a very lame-o story I'm trying to write. Anyone out
there familiar with Latin writings -- literature, essays, whatever? There is a
quote that I came upon that seems apt in its bald state, but I have no idea of
it's context or from where it's derived. I'd hate to use it and find the
context makes mockery of what I think it means. Anyone able to help me???
Portia
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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 07:15:19 EDT
From: Marel Darby <Frostsaint2@a.......>
Subject: Episode Guide
I've lost the URL of the site which contains an episode guide.
Can anyone help, please? Thanks in anticipation.
Marel
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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 22:10:17 +0200
From: Cloudrider <cloudrider@i.......>
Subject: Re: Episode Guide
From: Marel Darby <Frostsaint2@a.......>
> I've lost the URL of the site which contains an episode guide.
> Can anyone help, please? Thanks in anticipation.
I've collected a whole bunch of links to ep guides and other
episode-related stuff at:
http://fknet.freehosting.net/startup2.html
More than you needed... <g>
CloudRider
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