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Digest - 6 Jun 2000 to 7 Jun 2000 (#2000-165)

Wed, 7 Jun 2000

There are 23 messages totalling 684 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. FK Staked on the Chart? (2)
  2. High levels?
  3. Motorcycles for Nick and Vachon (5)
  4. KtK Updates 5-31-2000, 12-31-1999 and Overall totals
  5. story location
  6. I vote on high level everyone should!
  7. Forever Knight Cut Scenes
  8. Angel vs. FK (6)
  9. FK ALUMNI ALERT!!! (4)
 10. An FK moment.

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Date:    Tue, 6 Jun 2000 17:09:41 +0000
From:    Kristin <kris1228@s.......>
Subject: Re: FK Staked on the Chart?

>>I filled out the questions.  It took Millidian *several months* to email me
back with my key code to enter to moved to the higher level.   That may be
why so many people are voting at the low level, or have given up voting at
all.

Months?! Woah! It came to me almost instantly after saving the info and
answering the questions. If any one else is waitiing for Higher level keys
then go ahead and e-mail the webmaster. They're usually very quick to
respond.

Kristin

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Date:    Tue, 6 Jun 2000 17:13:47 +0000
From:    Kristin <kris1228@s.......>
Subject: Re: High levels?

There are different levels on Global 100 Charts. If you are a Low Level
voter you can select up to 10 points. Normal Level voters can select up to
20 points. "High Level" voters can select up to 30 points. These will
determine how much your votes are worth, so please strive for as much as
possible and be a High Level Voter. High level voters also weigh more in the
finalized points, which determine the position.

Note: You can increase your level on your Personal Card. This is where you
can store information about yourself. Some of this data is used in the
voting process to improve the quality of the charts. When you're new you
start at the Low level. You can increase your level when your email address
has been verified. The higher your level the more weight your votes have in
the charts. If you answer the questions about your 'gender', 'birthday',
'location' and 'public address', you will get a High level.

Hope this helps,
Kristin

-----Original Message-----
From: Forever Knight TV show [mailto:FORKNI-L@l.......]On Behalf Of
Muldy Sculler
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2000 8:50 PM
To: FORKNI-L@l.......
Subject: High levels?

Pray tell, what are high levels?  To be effective I need more info.

Thank you,
Barbara
I can't stand this indecision married with a lack of vision.
                                                             Tears for Fears

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Date:    Tue, 6 Jun 2000 16:02:58 PDT
From:    Gwenn Musicante <gwennm@h.......>
Subject: Motorcycles for Nick and Vachon

We all know that Nicholas has a motorcycle that is parked in his loft and
gathers dust.  Vachon on the other hand rides a motorcycle ( we saw him on
it in "Blackwing"), and I guess we are to assume that he either drags it up
to his living quarters or parks it near the abandoned church in which he
resides.  I was just wondering if there are any cycle experts out there who
know if the bike that Vachon rides is the same one that Nick has in his loft
or did the series actually spring for a second set of wheels for Vachon?
Maybe Nick lent it to Vachon since he wasn't using it anyway. <g>  Really,
does anyone know if the bikes were recycled to save money during the series?
  Is Vachon riding Nick's bike?

                                             Gwenn Musicante

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Date:    Tue, 6 Jun 2000 16:17:12 -0700
From:    Cloud <clouddancer@h.......>
Subject: Re: Motorcycles for Nick and Vachon

Gwenn Musicante wrote:
> know if the bike that Vachon rides is the same one that Nick has in
> his loft

No, it's not the same bike. Although they are both Triumphs. And for
some reason I seem to remember seeing two different bikes used in the
loft. (Different from the one Vachon was riding.)

--
Cloud         <clouddancer@h.......>
Former Triumph owner/rider
Vaquera por Siempre

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Date:    Tue, 6 Jun 2000 19:50:56 -0000
From:    Barbara Vainio <bevainio@w.......>
Subject: Re: KtK Updates 5-31-2000, 12-31-1999 and Overall totals

Javiette wrote:
509 letters were written in 1999, which is pretty comparable to the number
> written in 1998.  However, so far in 2000, only 66 letters have been
> written!!!

Not that I don't think that letters are the most important from of
communication we can use, but I think it may be incomplete to only count
them.  Many people have posted to bulletin boards and sent messages to Susan
for her various "holiday" packages.

Since our focus has changed a little in the last 4 or 5 months, perhaps
there's some way to count those messages as well.

Barb

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Date:    Tue, 6 Jun 2000 18:26:40 -0500
From:    Monica Thadine Rodriguez <mrodri14@u.......>
Subject: story location

A while back someone asked about a story I thought sounded really cool:
Love Enforced.  they said it had been on the DSS page, and was looking for
its new location.
It's a xover w/ X-Files, so I'm really interested.  Anyone know the
whereabouts?

Also, if anyone knows Sukh's addy, I appreciate if you forwarded it to me,
since I've deleted it.

thanks!
monica
luscious lucius lover

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Date:    Wed, 7 Jun 2000 00:29:37 EDT
From:    BJDFKFan@a.......
Subject: Re: FK Staked on the Chart?

Of the Global 100 chart, Laurie said:  <<<<<  It took Millidian *several
months* to email me back with my key code to enter to moved to the higher
level.   That may be why so many people are voting at the low level, or have
given up voting at all.  >>>>>

Yes, me too.  I *just* got the info a few days ago.  I've been wondering all
this time why I was listed as low level when I knew I had registered with
them.  I'm glad I can really make my votes count now!  Hopefully they'll give
all of us FK fans our key codes now.

Becky -- DFKS, DK, IB, DT, UF, Ravenette, Cousin, FOD
http://members.aol.com/BJDFKFan, http://members.aol.com/DKfanfic
We're cut adrift, but still floating.  I'm only hanging on to watch you go
down...my love.  (Bono, U2)
The world was bankrupted of ten million fine actions the night she passed on.
 (paraphrased from Ray Bradbury's F. 451, in memory of Libby M.)

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Date:    Tue, 6 Jun 2000 23:43:06 -0500
From:    Lauren <lauren1228@m.......>
Subject: I vote on high level everyone should!

  I vote daily and weekly! :) I also use high level sis! and those of you
that don't need to vote on high level now!
    Lauren :)

  My Main Page at:
      http://members.xoom.com/vampirekiss3/nick_jan_page/webpage/
                         My What's New page for updates is at:

http://members.xoom.com/vampirekiss3/nick_jan_page/webpage/updates_in_the_ro
mance_forever_knight.htm
    If you have not already come by and sign my Dream Book (Thanks!) Also I
would like you to vote for my site and Fk on Global.com! (Thanks again!) My
site has image gallery's a LARGE selection of wounderful pics, collages,
links, reason pages, romantic fan fiction, quizzes, games, and a LOT more!
Enjoy and have fun!

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Date:    Wed, 7 Jun 2000 00:35:14 +0000
From:    Kristin <kris1228@s.......>
Subject: Forever Knight Cut Scenes

Hello everyone!

I have just added 5 new movies, all of which are US cut-outs, only seen in
Canadian FK. Special thanks goes to Lois Dodson and Cloudrider (Siri) for
helping me to get these. They're from "Dark Knight," "For I Have Sinned,"
"Last Act," and "Feeding the Beast."

I am still on the verge of finding out about more of these. Several I have
been able to find due to fkfanfic.com transcripts. If any one can help
transcribe more Canadian episodes from 1st Season not listed here, please
contact me (kris1228@s.......) and tell me which ones you could help with.
I'd be eternally grateful. :)

I also added a new picture gallery called Cut-outs, which has pictures I
made off the cut avi clips.

Enjoy!
Kristin
http://members.xoom.com/forever_nick/Forever_Knight

P.S. Just to let you know, lately xoom has been slow during the day. I'm not
sure why, but I hope they fix this soon. It is usually up to speed by night
though.

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Date:    Tue, 6 Jun 2000 15:50:14 GMT
From:    Felicia Olivier <museclio3@h.......>
Subject: Re: Angel vs. FK

However, I HAVE noticed a zillion
>similarities between Angel and FK,

     Hey, y'all, remember me? :)  Anyway, it's been a (very long) while, but
I had to get into this.  I was also reluctant to watch at first, but I've
grown to like Angel as well.  It won't take the place of FK, but the
similarities are huge!  Here's another:  how about the female blonde
homicide detective whose father was also a cop?  Wonder where they got that
idea?
         Felicia

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Date:    Wed, 7 Jun 2000 02:09:22 EDT
From:    KnghtWtch@a.......
Subject: Re: Angel vs. FK

In a message dated 00-06-05 23:13:07 EDT, you write:

> In just checked out the tentative schedule for Toronto Trek 2000 and found a
>  panel entitled Angel:  Another Forever Knight.  It promises to be an
>  interesting discussion.
>
I and the FK fans out here would appreciate it if you would act as a reporter
for the people who can't attend and let us know what happen and what was said.
The title is more than explicited as we all know.  It's just not the 'Real
Forever Knight.'
KnightWitch ;-]=

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Date:    Wed, 7 Jun 2000 02:15:49 EDT
From:    KnghtWtch@a.......
Subject: Re: Angel vs. FK

In a message dated 00-06-06 01:15:19 EDT, you write:

>
>  There are *too many* similarities for it to be
>  coincidence, IMO, and I really resent that they ripped
>  off FK to make a spinoff from "Buffy."
>
>  Forever Knight was the best vampire tv show *ever* and
>  it's infuriating that it was treated so shabbily while
>  the Buffy empire is getting so much attention.
>

It just proves that Forever Knight was before it's time.
The best will always endure in the hearts of the true fans.
KnightWitch ;-]=

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Date:    Wed, 7 Jun 2000 03:00:45 -0700
From:    Cloud <clouddancer@h.......>
Subject: Re: Angel vs. FK

> There are *too many* similarities for it to be coincidence, IMO, and
> I really resent that they ripped off FK to make a spinoff from
> "Buffy."

I agree whole heartedly. I've seen Angel a couple times, (nothing
against the guy that plays the lead) but it just ticks me off!

--
Cloud

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Date:    Wed, 7 Jun 2000 22:30:37 +0800
From:    Cheryl Hoffman <hoffman@p.......>
Subject: FK ALUMNI ALERT!!!

Hey, a big thanks to fellow FK-fan Monique Kraft, who sent her pages from
the Satellite Guide.   And although it took 15 days to arrive, it's beaten
the one I've paid big money to subscribe to. I think I'll cancel the
subscription, see if we can fine tune the mailing & see if we can get this
done by the first of the month.

So,  after all that, sorry to say that there doesn't seem to be as much
on this month as usual.

As usual, be sure to check your local listings for exact date and times.

NIGEL BENNETT: (*2 new listings)
*Love & Betrayal:Mia Farrow Story       Romance       19/20, 20/21
        2 parts
*Passion & Paradise- 2 parts            Mystery    12,13,18,27,28
Sanctuary                               ThrillerMax     8,14,17,20,23,26,29
Darkman III, Die Darkman, Die           HBOZ            12,18,23,28
One Tough Cop                           Showtime        27
Soft Deceit                             ThrillerMax     12,23,29
Synapse (Memory Run)                    Showtime Beyond 12,23,28
The Crossing                            A&E         17
                                      * Biography       29
Kung Fu:TLC "Straitjacket"              TNT             15
   (w/Catherine Disher)
Beyond Reality "Sins of the Father"     SciFi      23
Lexx "Battle"                           Space - Canada  12
Lexx "The Beach"                        Space - Canada  26

JOHN KAPELOS:
Guilty as Sin                           Cinemax         13,19,23,30
Highway Heartbreaker                    Lifetime        20
Johnny Skidmarks                        HBO             12,15
The Shadow                              Encore          9,15,24
Tootsie                                 HBO             8,17,20

DEBORAH DUCHENE:
Whale Music                             TRIO            30
(w/Cyndy Preston (Lawyer/Dancer), Paul Gross (from Due South),
Jennifer Dale (The Countess), Blu Mankuma (Reese), and
Jim Byrnes (from Highlander),

LISA RYDER:
Blackheart                              Cinemax         9
                                        TMC             11,26
Stolen Heart                            MoMax           21

GARY FARMER:
Blown Away                              MoMax           14
Henry & Verlin                          TRIO            10
Smoke Signals                           Starz           19,23,28,29

BEN BASS:
Bride of Chucky                         Starz           9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16

VON FLORES:
DogBoys                                 ShowExtreme     9,10,14,17,26,27,29,30
Johnny Mnemonic                         Showtime        16,25
Picture Perfect                         Family          18

COLM FEORE:
City of Angels                          HBO             8,13,18,21,30
Striking Poses                          HBO             17
Critical Care                           Comedy          23

NATSUKO OHAMA:
Montana                                 MoMax           8,12,24,27

CHRISTINA COX: (Joan of Arc)
Better than Chocolate                   Cinemax         8
                                        Starz           29

DAVID HEMBLEN: (Dr. Vanderwal)
Defenders: Choice of Evils              Show2           15,16,23,24,27
                                        Show3           8,9,11,16,17,19,24,28,29

BERNARD BEHRENS:(DuChamps-money advisor)
Evidence of Blood                       Showtime        9,18,21,26

DAMON D'OLIVEIRA: (Inca)
Double Take                             HBO             14,23

NICOLE deBOER: (Jeannie)
When Innocence is Lost                  Lifetime        24

*********
Other Canadian Movies:

Once a Thief                    Showtime Extreme        12,18,22,27,30
Once a Thief-Brother Against Brother
                                Showtime Extreme        11,12,15,17,20,30
Once a Thief-Family Business
                                Showtime Extreme        10,11,18,22

The first one is the original pilot, the next 2 are compilations of 2-part
shows of Once a Thief.  If you've not seen these, 2 FK Alumni are regulars
on the show - Jennifer Dale and Greg Kramer.

Well, guess that's all for now.  Happy viewing.

Cheryl Hoffman, NA (& I ain't changin' it), Cousin, NBN, GWDFC,  G4
"My, my... we are in a mood tonight.." -LaCroix
hoffman@p.......                            dayabaygal@y.......
Dapeng, Shenzhen, CHINA         AIM:  DayaBayGal        ICQ:  30464256

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Date:    Wed, 7 Jun 2000 11:16:01 EDT
From:    Libratsie@a.......
Subject: Re: FK ALUMNI ALERT!!!

In a message dated 6/7/00 9:33:35 AM Central Daylight Time,
hoffman@p....... writes:

> Once a Thief-Brother Against Brother
>                                  Showtime Extreme        11,12,15,17,20,30
>  Once a Thief-Family Business
>                                  Showtime Extreme        10,11,18,22
For everyone's information, these are episodes of Once A Thief edited
together to form "movies."  Although Nigel and John's episodes are NOT one of
these, Greg "Screed" Kramer is ***I THINK*** in the above two of the three
"movies" (it has been a while since I've seen them so thus the "I think." His
moments are long, but he's there!

--Libs
greg kramer fan klub

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Date:    Wed, 7 Jun 2000 10:22:33 -0500
From:    Carla Martinek <copper6500@y.......>
Subject: Re: FK ALUMNI ALERT!!!

I've just taken Cheryl's post, and added the VCR alerts daily thru Sunday the
11th over on the forkni-l@e....... list.  (I'll keep adding them when I find
time.)  If anyone wants to help me add these for the rest of the month, I'd be
grateful.

Automatic reminders will be sent out to all subscribers the evening before,
letting you know who's going to be on the next day.

If you want to get these reminders, then you can join the list over there. I'm
not encouraging *or* dissuading discussion, as I don't want to take away from
this list.  You can also go nomail and still check the online calendar and see
day-by-day who's making an appearance.

email me offlist if you have any questions.  And of course, any FK-related
events, cons, etc. can be put on the calendar as well.  Any subscriber to the
list can add to the calendar.

Carla
copper6500@y.......

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Date:    Wed, 7 Jun 2000 11:27:01 +0000
From:    Kristin <kris1228@s.......>
Subject: Re: Angel vs. FK

>>I agree whole heartedly. I've seen Angel a couple times, (nothing
against the guy that plays the lead) but it just ticks me off!

I'm quite annoyed about this also. I mean, they could be airing the original
all time greatest series, with superb actors and writing but instead they
air these things lacking quality. I want my Knight back!!

Kristin

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Date:    Wed, 7 Jun 2000 11:15:16 -0500
From:    Lauren <lauren1228@m.......>
Subject: Re: Angel vs. FK

me too!!!!!!!!!!
   Lauren :)

-----Original Message-----
From: Forever Knight TV show [mailto:FORKNI-L@l.......]On Behalf Of
Kristin
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 6:27 AM
To: FORKNI-L@l.......
Subject: Re: Angel vs. FK

>>I agree whole heartedly. I've seen Angel a couple times, (nothing
against the guy that plays the lead) but it just ticks me off!

I'm quite annoyed about this also. I mean, they could be airing the original
all time greatest series, with superb actors and writing but instead they
air these things lacking quality. I want my Knight back!!

Kristin

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Date:    Wed, 7 Jun 2000 09:34:00 PDT
From:    Gwenn Musicante <gwennm@h.......>
Subject: Re: Motorcycles for Nick and Vachon

<clouddancer@h.......> wrote:

No, it's not the same bike. Although they are both Triumphs. And for
some reason I seem to remember seeing two different bikes used in the
loft. (Different from the one Vachon was riding.)

Thanks Cloud,

So it seems as if there may be at three of them.  Thanks for clearing that
up for me.  I still wonder where Vachon left his bike parked when it was not
in use.  Actually, I never saw it too much after "Blackwing."  Maybe parking
it outside an abandoned church was not the smartest thing to do.

                         Gwenn Musicante

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Date:    Wed, 7 Jun 2000 12:44:10 EDT
From:    Libratsie@a.......
Subject: Re: Motorcycles for Nick and Vachon

In a message dated 6/7/00 11:37:42 AM Central Daylight Time,
gwennm@h....... writes:

> So it seems as if there may be at three of them.  Thanks for clearing that
>  up for me.  I still wonder where Vachon left his bike parked when it was not
>  in use.  Actually, I never saw it too much after "Blackwing."  Maybe parking
>  it outside an abandoned church was not the smartest thing to do.

Or havin' a swap meet luvin' best bud by the nomiker o' Screed wuz the
bestest thingee wot ta do. 'E might've put h'it h'up h'on an auction site,
paddin' Ol' Screed pock-mark-ets wit a bit o' FK fan moola.

Jest a theory, o' course.

--Libs

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Date:    Wed, 7 Jun 2000 13:11:28 -0400
From:    Bonnie Rutledge <br1035@i.......>
Subject: Re: FK ALUMNI ALERT!!!

Cheryl gave us updates for this month, and I wanted to offer comments on a
couple:

<snip> LISA RYDER:
> Blackheart                              Cinemax 9
>                                         TMC             11,26
> Stolen Heart                            MoMax           21<snip>

I enjoyed Stolen Heart. Much, much better than Blackheart, and Lisa Ryder is a
lead. Tracy fans will like it. It's a different character, but still a
strong one.

<snip> DAMON D'OLIVEIRA: (Inca)
> Double Take                             HBO             14,23<snip>

This one also stars The Caddy (typecast as the hero's car :D), as well as Torri
Higginson(Erica in 'Last Act').

<waves>

***************************************************************************
Bonnie Rutledge......<br1035@i.......>......Evil - The Puppies Say So!
 "'Single and Fabulous?' It was supposed to be 'Single and Fabulous,'
exclamation point!!! That question mark is hostile."- 'Sex and the City'
              "You sold me queer giraffes." - 'Gladiator'

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Date:    Wed, 7 Jun 2000 10:46:42 -0700
From:    Storm Born <the_stormborn@y.......>
Subject: Re: Motorcycles for Nick and Vachon

--- Gwenn Musicante <gwennm@h.......> wrote:
>>I still wonder where Vachon left his bike parked
when it was not in use.<<

He carried it up the steps and into the vestibule,
where he stores it along with his collection of
concert t-shirts, his lava lamp, an assortment of amps
and special-effects pedals...

=====
Molly/StormBorn
FKPagan/Cousin/Seducer/Ravenette/DT/Who's Army Legionnaire
the_stormborn@y.......
Always remember to pillage BEFORE you burn.

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Date:    Wed, 7 Jun 2000 18:48:48 +0100
From:    SafetySu <nick1@w.......>
Subject: An FK moment.

I was being shown round a gym by a young man called Geraint:) An omen or
what.

cheers,
Susan

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