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Digest - 27 Mar 2000 to 28 Mar 2000 (#2000-93)
Tue, 28 Mar 2000
There are 31 messages totalling 699 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. YKYB... (3)
2. Questions about FK vampirism
3. A New Place to ask for FK on Video/DVD (2)
4. FK Vampire Abilities vs Others (2)
5. Robocop: PD Trailer Headache (3)
6. Questions about FK vampirism - and thanks (5)
7. Supersonic Vamp Flight Thread
8. Help--Looking for fic
9. Speed of sound, flight, etc (3)
10. HOW do vampires fly?
11. Vampire traits
12. FK and e-books
13. Fangs like a snake (3)
14. FK Alumni Alert -- Canada (2)
15. Thanks for remembering...
16. Special thanks to those responsible
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 16:00:05 -0700
From: Kyer <kyer@p.......>
Subject: Re: YKYB...
(I know you probably meant this for offlist, but I'll answer her
anyway---its short.)
Laurie wrote> Okay, I don't get it.<snip> to my joke about LaCroix and
typos.
Typo sounds just like 'type O' (blood) which was the type all the victims in
Dark Knight had.
Now, were there any episodes where a vampire expressed a preference for a
blood type? Other than fresh from the 'pipes', that is.
Grinned, :)
Kyer
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 16:46:05 -0700
From: Kyer <kyer@p.......>
Subject: Re: Questions about FK vampirism
Would anybody care for some limburger cheese on the blood tears question?
Maybe their tears only contain blood when they are under extreme stress
(like the blood sweating). Feeling okay, the liquid is regular clear stuff;
feeling all terribly angsty (Nick and Serena) the blood vessels break and
the tears get scarlet.
Howzat?
Kyer
kyer@p.......
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 20:36:28 -0600
From: Kristin Harris <kris1228@s.......>
Subject: A New Place to ask for FK on Video/DVD
Posted at Sci-fi FK BBoard:
From: Fawkes
Hiya all! While skiming through outlines of Nigel's eps of Lexx, I found the
link to the site that bought rights to produce Lexx vids. I went there and
they *do* have a feedback form, incase you should like to ask for a series
on video....So anyone who doesn't mind taking 2 minutes to do so should go
to their site and make a request for Forever Knight. Tell 'em you love the
show, and would certainly enjoy having available on VHS/DVD.
Here's the link to the feedback form:
http://www.contender.ltd.uk/KULT-TV/kltfbk.htm
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 21:03:38 EST
From: Laudon1965@a.......
Subject: Re: YKYB...
Many apologies, this was meant to go offlist. :: writes a hundred times on
virtual blackboard "I will change the 'reply to' field" ::
Feeling foolish,
Laurie of the Isles
http://knightpassions.homestead.com/Knight_Passions.html
In a message dated 03/27/2000 2:57:59 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
Laudon1965@a....... writes:
<< Kyer,
Okay, I don't get it. And I'm too busy cursing at Homestead to rewatch Dark
Knight. <g> So come on, what gives?
Laurie >>
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 18:10:13 -0800
From: Cloud <clouddancer@h.......>
Subject: Re: FK Vampire Abilities vs Others
> Jlkerr1228@a....... wrote:
> Go to: http://www.pathwaytodarkness.com/facts/comparison1.htm
> They have a chart here that compares... FK <with others>
One of the comparisons through me for a loop. It says that FK vampires
have "Fangs are hollow (like a snake, but for sucking, not injecting)".
Did I miss something? I don't recall ever seeing anything like that.
--
Cloud
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 21:18:02 EST
From: Dolpfin220@a.......
Subject: Re: A New Place to ask for FK on Video/DVD
In a message dated 03/27/2000 7:56:24 PM Central Standard Time,
kris1228@s....... writes:
> So anyone who doesn't mind taking 2 minutes to do so should go
> to their site and make a request for Forever Knight. Tell 'em you love the
> show, and would certainly enjoy having available on VHS/DVD.
This appears to be a UK video company, so if they were able to get the series
on VHS/DVD they would probably not be available to the NTSC standards of the
US and Canada. The UK is on a PAL standard. Those fortunate enough to have
PAL/NTSC converters would be in a good position though. This isn't to say
that asking would be a wasted effort, just that if they were able to get them
put on video they probably wouldn't be viewable to the N. American standard
unless there was an alliance with another company such as Columbia House....
Janet
<A HREF="Dolpfin220@a.......">Dolpfin220@a.......</A>
There is nothing so disagreeable, that a patient mind cannot find some solace
for it. -Lucius Annaeus Seneca, Roman philosopher (BC 3-65 AD)
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 21:32:38 EST
From: EnidKnight@a.......
Subject: Robocop: PD Trailer Headache
Hi everyone:
For the past few days I have been trying, and retrying to download
the 90 second promo trailer from the<A
HREF="http://www.robocop-pd.ca/main/index.html"> Robocop: Prime Directives
Website.</A>
Each time I get cut off half way through, this happens with both the AVI and
the Quicktime 4 format.
Has anyone been able to see it?
If so, is it even worth trying so hard?
Thanks in advance,
Enid Rodriguez
GWDFC, G5 Attendee, Survivor of War 10, Enforcer, Harem Wife.
EnidKnight@a......., LadyEnid@h......., ICQ# 3 2 7 3 5 7 9 1
"Four beers, a little James Brown and you can't keep me off the tables."
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 21:33:54 -0500
From: Marg Yamanaka <mytoronto@h.......>
Subject: Re: Robocop: PD Trailer Headache
EnidKnight@a....... wrote:
> For the past few days I have been trying, and retrying to download
> the 90 second promo trailer from the<A
> HREF="http://www.robocop-pd.ca/main/index.html"> Robocop: Prime Directives
> Website.</A> Each time I get cut off half way through, this happens with both
the AVI and the Quicktime 4 format.
> If so, is it even worth trying so hard?
I downloaded it (all 25 Mg of it). If you're looking for a shot of
Ger, no it's not worth it.
--
Marg, in Toronto, the City of the Knight <mytoronto@h.......>
Please visit the Upper Canada Connection -
A Canadian Tribute to Geraint Wyn Davies:
http://members.home.net/gwducc/index.htm
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 21:44:54 EST
From: EnidKnight@a.......
Subject: Re: Robocop: PD Trailer Headache
In a message dated 3/27/00 9:38:08 PM Eastern Standard Time,
mytoronto@h....... writes:
> I downloaded it (all 25 Mg of it). If you're looking for a shot of
> Ger, no it's not worth it.
Thanks Marg, that's all I really wanted to know. <g>
-Enid
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 22:14:39 -0500
From: Sandra Gray <sandragray@r.......>
Subject: Re: Questions about FK vampirism - and thanks
Teri wrote:
>While we've often questioned the reasoning of TPTB <g>, there is another way
>of thinking in terms of the real world that I suppose could be a factor in
>why the FK vampires ever did or did not display blood-colored saliva and
>eye-moisture. How difficult would this look be to maintain on a mortal
>actor?
Not to be too nitpicky here, but from the standpoint of FK's
universe, if Nick had had reddish or pink eye fluid or saliva,
I think it might have been hard for him to be a cop. There
would just be too many people to whammy into not noticing that
kind of abnormality.
>According to myth and legend, vampires could not be seen
>in a mirror, but we already know that the FK vampires *can* be because the
>special effects required to remove the mirror image was too expensive, so
>TPTB wrote around it.
Well, I'm not sure if every vampire legend has the prohibition
against reflection and I agree that it was more cost effective
to ignore it for filming purposes. But I think it also makes
FK vampires a bit more realistic (actually I've never understood
why a vampire of myth "corpse" shouldn't have a reflection).
I'm also glad they avoided the turning into mist or bats thing,
for the same reason. One can speculate on a more scientific
reason for FK vampires.
On another note, my poem Dark Night has made the final ballot
for the fkfic awards. To whoever nominated this (or any of my
works), thank you.
--Sandra Gray, forever Knightie
--sandragray@r.......
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 21:41:15 CST
From: Thomas Lambert <eternaltl@h.......>
Subject: Re: FK Vampire Abilities vs Others
We DID see Urs's reflection.. she had just come over. She stared in horror
and in wonder of what she saw.
>Even FK contradicted itself. Early on, Nick makes a reference to being able
>to see himself in a mirror some of the time. Later, in 3rd season, I think
>I recall seeing Vachon's reflection.
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Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 22:01:28 -0800
From: Cheryle Joy Corpus <cjcorpus@s.......>
Subject: Supersonic Vamp Flight Thread
<lurk mode off>
Just wanted to pitch in my $0.02 that I enjoyed/ am enjoying this
thread. This list is one of the best things that have happened
in my life and the lively discussions that go on. I'm truly amazed
at the variety of topics that have been discussed on this list and
that somehow, my field of interest has been touched as well. Some
of the technical questions can be directed my way and I'll do the
best I can (off-list please). Thanks for making me smile everyone.
<lurk mode on>
-Cj
Email: cjcorpus@s.......
or CjSachiko@e.......
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Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 00:04:24 -0500
From: Marti Ehlert <molly3jane@j.......>
Subject: Help--Looking for fic
Hi all,
Delurking here because I'm looking for a piece of unfinished fic that I
wrote a long time ago. I was looking for it to send to a friend and
found out that I saved it on a program I no longer have. The fic is
called "I Dream of Schanke." If anybody has it roming around somewhere
could you send me a copy? I'll send virtual souvlaki <sp?> and lots of
warm fuzzies to the person(s) who finds it. Thanks :)
--Marti
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Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 01:59:06 EST
From: KnghtWtch@a.......
Subject: Re: YKYB...
When you go to your weekly allergy appointment and start signing in as
Forever Knight characters.
KnightWitch ;-]]=
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Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 10:24:03 +0100
From: Tracy Gooding <Tracy.Gooding@n.......>
Subject: Speed of sound, flight, etc
According to the acoustic data tables I have, "the velocity of sound can vary
according to the...previous history of the specimen." Make of that what you
will. <g>
It appears that we are not the only ones thinking about mechanisms of flight.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_692000/692968.stm
Tracy
Tracy.Gooding@n.......
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Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 08:43:26 -0500
From: Cecilia Long <celong@m.......>
Subject: Re: Questions about FK vampirism - and thanks
If I remember correctly, WAAAAYYYY back then, people did not understand
reflections, and what they were. They felt that the reflection was an image
of the soul. If a vampire did not have a soul, hence they could not have a
reflection..... Then it just became the vampire...thing! ;-)
--
Cecilia
Lady Ariadne--webmistress
http://www.wildbadgers.net
ICQ# 10820105
--
FK vampires a bit more realistic (actually I've never understood
why a vampire of myth "corpse" shouldn't have a reflection).
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Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 09:28:30 -0500
From: Cindy Clark <clarkcindy@e.......>
Subject: Re: HOW do vampires fly?
I wonder, if like Bumble Bees, it's as simple as no one ever told them they
couldn't fly <g>.
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Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 08:52:27 -0600
From: "Cynthia L. Faut" <niteluvr@s.......>
Subject: Vampire traits
My take on vampires being cold is that they would use the oxygen slower
from the red cells. If my memory serves (long time ago when I was in
school?!) red blood cells have a 21 day life span. When the vampire
feeds he/ she gets old and new cells. Since they don't have to breathe
( except to talk) and they can't make their own red cells, they need
frequent red cells replacements (ie lunch!) in order to have the muscle
function.
As to red tears and saliva, the blody fluids that make these don't come
directly from the circulatory system. I think they are closer to the
lymphatic system in their origin. But I'd have to go look that up too.
Since Nick works with the public and "pink eye" is contagious, he would
be off work a long time if his eyes were reddened!
Cindy
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Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 09:49:51 -0500
From: Cindy Clark <clarkcindy@e.......>
Subject: Re: Questions about FK vampirism - and thanks
Sandra Grey wrote:
(actually I've never understood why a vampire of myth "corpse" shouldn't
have a reflection)
In one story I read (I believe it was one of P.N. Elrod's Jack Fleming
stories), vampires don't have a reflection because since their first death,
they are slightly out of time sync with the rest of us. Since mirrors are
static in time and there fore reflect static objects, vampires don't
reflect.
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Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 16:12:16 +0100
From: Tracy Gooding <Tracy.Gooding@n.......>
Subject: Re: Questions about FK vampirism - and thanks
Cindy Clark wrote:
<<In one story I read (I believe it was one of P.N. Elrod's Jack Fleming
stories), vampires don't have a reflection because since their first death,
they are slightly out of time sync with the rest of us. Since mirrors are
static in time and there fore reflect static objects, vampires don't reflect.>>
Although PN Elrod's vamps and the FK ones are very different.
As for mirrors being static in time, they surf along in the present with the
rest of us, always assuming that time is more than just a convenient concept
<g>. You can do weird things with mirrors and the Theory of Special Relativity
(like stop them reflecting), but the whole reflection business with vamps
requires a hefty portion of Oxford Blue cheese for me.
Tracy
Tracy.Gooding@n.......
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Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 10:20:22 -0500
From: Cindy Clark <clarkcindy@e.......>
Subject: Re: FK and e-books
Nancy Taylor did a charity story this way last year according to info I
picked up from her site. It was called "The Ladder By Which We Rise", and
the proceeds were to go to SafeSpace.
BTW, Nancy, Is this still available? I'd like to complete my Laurene
Series.
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Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 11:38:00 -0500
From: Cindy Clark <clarkcindy@e.......>
Subject: Re: Questions about FK vampirism - and thanks
Tracy Gooding wrote:
...the whole reflection business with vamps requires a hefty portion of
Oxford Blue cheese for me.
I never promised a cheese-less explanation. Besides, I thought we liked
cheese to flavor (smother) our list <g>.
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Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 12:15:20 -0500
From: mclisa@m.......
Subject: Fangs like a snake
Mr. Levene, one of the directors whose first name eludes me, said in an
interview that FK vampires had hollow fangs and could inject their blood
during the bite. I seem to think he got this from JP, but am not sure.
Cheese, anyone? :)
Cousin McLisa (Lisa McDavid) "That will be Trouble."
mclisa@m.......
Listowner Forkni-l, Fkfic-l, Fkv4s-l
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Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 12:26:09 -0500
From: Tim Phillips <Timp@d.......>
Subject: Re: Fangs like a snake
There are a couple of references in the story to the effect of a
vampire's bite upon the victim. Vachon called it "the most erotic
experience of my life". Obviously, something from the vampire is
passing into its victim during the attack. Perhaps its blood?
Less cheesy than some of hte explainations that have been
churned out.
Tim
> said in an
> interview that FK vampires had hollow fangs and could inject their blood
> during the bite. I seem to think he got this from JP, but am not sure.
>
> Cheese, anyone? :)
Tim Phillips
timp@d.......
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Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 12:24:33 EST
From: Laudon1965@a.......
Subject: Re: Speed of sound, flight, etc
In a message dated 03/28/2000 4:41:53 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
Tracy.Gooding@n....... writes:
<< According to the acoustic data tables I have, "the velocity of sound can
vary according to the...previous history of the specimen." Make of that what
you will. <g> >>
So does that mean that a vampire with a lot of history would experience more
drag?<g> I've heard of the past weighing one down, but this is ridiculous.
<g>
Laurie of the Isles
"He don't know me very well, do he?" -- Bugs Bunny
http://knightpassions.homestead.com/Knight_Passions.html
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Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 19:29:38 +0200
From: Llarian <manulanger@t.......>
Subject: Re: Speed of sound, flight, etc
> So does that mean that a vampire with a lot of history would experience more
> drag?<g> I've heard of the past weighing one down, but this is ridiculous.
> <g>
> Laurie of the Isles
Nah, Laurie, if that were true, Nick wouldn't be able to fly at all.
But maybe he cannot fly faster than sound anymore.
That would explain why he can never really escape LaCroix, who
is not "weighed down" by his past!
Gouda, anybody? Or do you prefer Chester, or maybe Edamer?
Llarian
mailto:manulanger@t.......
Join the SciFi-Crossover-Webring at:
http://home.tronet.de/manulanger/index.html
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Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 12:34:23 EST
From: DeanieBTVS@a.......
Subject: FK Alumni Alert -- Canada
Hey all!
For those who live in Canada (or people like me who live close enough to the
border to get Channel 9) there's a FK alumni listing!
According to my TV Guide, the movie "Whale Music" (with Deborah Duchene, Blu
Mankuma, and Cyndy Preston), will beon Canada's CBC, Channel 9 Thursday
(3/30) at 11:55pm, so set your VCRs!
Deanie
Official Doctor-to-be of the Dark Nat Pack
NNP/Dark Perk/ForeverNat/DarkNN/Knightie/Vaq/Ravenette/Fanatics Archivist
http://www.geocities.com/deaniebtvs/ -- My FK fanfic archive
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Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 13:49:07 EST
From: MadiHolmes@a.......
Subject: Re: Fangs like a snake
In a message dated 03/28/00 10:24:24 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
Timp@d....... writes:
<< Obviously, something from the vampire is
passing into its victim during the attack. Perhaps its blood?
Less cheesy than some of hte explainations that have been
churned out.
>>
Perhaps an anti-coagulant <sp?>. After all, what's the point of sucking so
hard, if those nasty platelettes start to close the wounds.
Here's another question: Do the fangs remain in the wound, or do they pull
out, so that the blood could squirt out faster?
MadiHolmes
Cousine Formidable/GSS
"Shouldn't all good little boys and girls be in bed?"
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Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 14:59:01 EST
From: Knightwave@a.......
Subject: Thanks for remembering...
Well, I'm pleased and surprised to find that Susan and my "When In Rome..."
is in the final round of the fiction awards. I want to thank everyone who
thought enough of it and "Darkest Memories" to nominate them this year.
Though DM didn't draw enough to make it through, I'm very appreciative that
it's still being enjoyed enough to *be* nominated. And to think I was
considering pulling it from the archives... but that's another story. <g>
Susan is literally jumping up and down in happiness about 'Rome'. She has
always been the more vocal of the two of us. (Smack! Ouch... ducking away
from swinging writing partner <bg>) Anyway here's a heartfelt thank you
from the both of us. <courtly bow to the group>
Enjoy,
April
knightwave@a.......
knightwave@j.......
http://members.xoom.com/knightbudz/index.html
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Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 15:11:33 EST
From: Libratsie@a.......
Subject: Special thanks to those responsible
I wanted to thank everyone responsible for nominating my poem for the FKFIC
awards (I think the name was "The Last Sunrise" - but I'm bad about remembering
my own titles... in any case, it was "The Last" something! hahahahah) I'm
particularly proud as the poem is not humorous and, believe it or not, is not
about Screed.
A sure sign of doom, I'm sure!<wRPg>
I didn't get to do much fanfic last year, so it is very nice being remembered
for what little did slip through my fingers on increasingly rare lazy
afternoons.
--Libs
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Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 16:43:35 -0500
From: Marg Yamanaka <mytoronto@h.......>
Subject: Re: FK Alumni Alert -- Canada
DeanieBTVS@a....... wrote:
> According to my TV Guide, the movie "Whale Music" (with Deborah Duchene, Blu
> Mankuma, and Cyndy Preston), will beon Canada's CBC, Channel 9 Thursday
> (3/30) at 11:55pm, so set your VCRs!
Whale Music is a bit strange. <g> For you Due South fans, Paul Gross
is also in it. Deb's role is a small one, but absolutely hilarious!
--
Marg, in Toronto, the City of the Knight <mytoronto@h.......>
Please visit the Upper Canada Connection -
A Canadian Tribute to Geraint Wyn Davies:
http://members.home.net/gwducc/index.htm
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