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Logfile LOG9606C Part 18

June 19-June 20, 1996

File: "FORKNI-L LOG9606C" Part 18

	TOPICS:
	Sci-Fi channel/FK airtime?
	Nick and cures
	Pumping blood
	Nick and Horses
	SPOILER: LK & Blackwing
	<No subject>
	Fred's AOL chat
	Questions about I Will Repay  (2)
	missing fic parts!!
	Ger's Outer Limits Ep
	Blues/Dancing in Toronto??
	forkni-l letter  (2)
	The Fix and mortality (was:  Spolers: Blackwing)  (4)
	Sony, TV_ShowStuff and FK Merchandise  (3)
	Ger and a new series  (5)
	Slow servers and tired hamsters...
	YKYBWTM I&II
	German fans' needs
	Perkulator's Unite!!!!!!
	Nat's Methods (was Re: Nick and Cures)

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Date:         Wed, 19 Jun 1996 20:24:44 -0500
From:         CINDY L BREWER <DHRC98C@p.......>
Subject:      Sci-Fi channel/FK airtime?

Hi Guys,

I unfortunately don't have the Sci-Fi channel yet,but a few of my off list
friends who do were having trouble finding what time FK was on. Could some
kind soul email me off list with what Sci-Fi's current schedule is?

Thanks in advance.



                        Cindy Brewer DHRC98C@p.......
                       Knightie,Nick&Natpacker,Vaquera
                   "Oh pul-eeze don't go strange on me."Schanke to Nick
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Date:         Thu, 20 Jun 1996 01:51:59 GMT
From:         Karen Parker <horcgal@u.......>
Subject:      Re: Nick and cures

Ok, forgive me if someone else asked this already, as I havent had time to
read everyones post yet.....but I just dont get why Nick didnt ever try to
find another more experienced "healer"
They said that the girl wasnt trained by her grandfather to learn how to
project the evil into something else like an animal or something like that,
but she WAS having an effect on Nick and healing him to an extent. Until it
overwhelmed her it was working. I just think he shouldve tried to find
someone who had been trained to do it properly and get himself healed.
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Date:         Wed, 19 Jun 1996 22:29:57 -0400
From:         Bobbie Williams <UserKnight@a.......>
Subject:      Pumping blood

Ummm...delurking for a moment, here.  I was pondering this dilemma the other
day--if the heart is needed to pump blood to the neck, then how can vampires
(at least those of the FK variety) drink blood from each other if their
hearts only beat every ten minutes?  (Can't you just see Nick looking at his
watch with his fangs firmly implanted in Janette's neck?  Hee-hee!)

Bobbie, Lady of the Knight ('cause Amy told me I could be)
"Out of the spirit/Into the flesh/The animal heartbeat in the chest/
The naked desire/The appetite/But you remember the light."
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Date:         Wed, 19 Jun 1996 23:38:46 -0400
From:         Heather Poinsett <104753.2325@c.......>
Subject:      Re: Nick and Horses

This has probably been talked to death, but I've been stomped on by every
kind of horse from a twenty year old quarter horse gelding to a crazy
arab filly.  I always thought it went with the territory...getting stomped
on, getting sneezed on, and really graceful falls (from horseback) at the
worst possible times.

Heather *Light Cousin/Unknown/Dark Knightie*
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Date:         Wed, 19 Jun 1996 23:45:21 -0400
From:         Ray Heuer <RayHeuer@a.......>
Subject:      Re: SPOILER: LK & Blackwing

Spoiler Space
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     Idalia Kakesako mentioned that many of the images Nat received from Nick
in LK were received by Marian Blackwing in Blackwing.
     She speculated (I think rightly) that these images are always "on the
surface", and the first to be transmitted to someone because they are part
and parcel of Nick's image of what and who he is.
     Nick tries to deny his role as "killer" and predator, but by doing so,
he re-emphasizes this as part of his subconsious.  His angst is wrapped up in
the fact that he cannot put aside this part of himself.

  --  Ray
   Nat Vamp Camp

     Rage!  Rage!  Against the dying of the Knight!
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Date:         Wed, 19 Jun 1996 23:45:53 -0400
From:         esalmas <esalmas@g.......>

Sandra Gray wrote --
> Seriously, the one factor we're leaving out of this is what drinking blood
>is like to the FK vampire. Personally, I think it
>was a mistake to introduce that idea so late in the series.

Actually, I'm not sure that's true. I was rewatching "Last Act" and when
Nick and his lover share blood they even talk about what they learned about
each other from the experience.


Eileen Salmas
esalmas@g.......
Unnamed Faction and Dark Knightie
"The truth is out there. It's just not in my jurisdiction."
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Date:         Wed, 19 Jun 1996 23:51:14 -0400
From:         Susan Honig <Susankenn@a.......>
Subject:      Re: Fred's AOL chat

I sent a copy of the log to him

Sue
susankenn@a.......
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Date:         Wed, 19 Jun 1996 22:55:12 -0500
From:         Cousin April <aruskin@e.......>
Subject:      Questions about I Will Repay

In I Will Repay, is Nat's brother moving to Toronto or just visiting? Do we
ever see him in short sleeves or long sleeves only? What happens to Nat's
sister-in-law and her niece (Where they live at, Toronto or elsewhere)? I know
the last question is probably unanswerable, but I thought I'd ask anyway...

All the above for fanfiction... Writing it now and don't want to hunt
through my tapes to watch the ep again...

--

April Ruskin -- The NinjaBabe w/ an Attitude * aruskin@e.......
Cousin * SKLer * CSS * UFer *Follower of the X * Empress of the
Ellipses *K-nigget * YMET* Queen of the E-Mail Loop * SKL Big
Mouth* "I am Bugs Bunny of the Clan Bunny! There can be only one!"
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Date:         Thu, 20 Jun 1996 00:55:16 -0300
From:         Paula Hurley <dkknight@a.......>
Subject:      missing fic parts!!

I was wondering if someone would be so kind as to fwd me parts 29 & 30 of
the Gift, I accidently got nomailed when they were posted and the listserv
won't give them to me!! Thanks.

Paula
dkknight@a.......
Dark Knightie * Light Cousin * Valentine * Unnamed Faction * Nick&NatPacker
"We made quite a good team, didn't we!" - LaCroix to Natalie(Night In Question)
"We ARE each other! You will always be mine.....eternally!" - LC to NK(The Fix)
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Date:         Wed, 19 Jun 1996 21:12:37 -0700
From:         Antonia Spadafina <asginger@i.......>
Subject:      Ger's Outer Limits Ep

Hi all--

   I have a copy (first run) of Ger's Outer Limits episode.  As I don't collect
on Ger, I am offering it to the first requestor to one of my addies below.  The
offer is good until Sunday, June 23 at noon, when the tape will be recycled. The
tape will be $2 + 1st class postage.  It is recorded on SP speed and is :45 in
length.
    As there is some nudity and adult language, please declare your age and
date of birth along with your request.  I don't want to aid and abet in the
delinquency of a minor.
    Please reply private, as I am NOMAIL due to ISP problems (AGAIN - what else
is new?).

Thanks!
***********************************************************************
*Toni S.  /  asginger@i.......  _OR_   antonia_spadafina@s....... *
*new Vaquera, old Knightie from NYC                                   *
*DUM SPIRO SPERO!!                                                    *
***********************************************************************
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Date:         Wed, 19 Jun 1996 21:14:42 -0700
From:         Cynthia Hoffman <choff@v.......>
Subject:      Re: Questions about I Will Repay

On Wed, 19 Jun 1996, Cousin April wrote:

> In I Will Repay, is Nat's brother moving to Toronto or just visiting? Do
> we ever see him in short sleeves or long sleeves only? What happens to
> Nat's sister-in-law and her niece (Where they live at, Toronto or
> elsewhere)?

1)  Nat's brother is a crown prosecutor, and there's every reason to
believe he does that job in Toronto.  He therefore would neither be moving
to or visiting there because he would live there.

2)  He's wearing one of Nick's t-shirts in the loft ... one of the blue
silk short sleeved ones.

3)  We never find out what happened to the sister-in-law or niece.  But
there's no reason to believe that they leave Toronto.

Cynthia, who sometimes scares herself because she can answer questions
like this *without* rewatching episodes.
Raven Cynthia Hoffman/choff@v.......
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Date:         Thu, 20 Jun 1996 00:47:30 -0400
From:         "Tammy Pond  [Digest]" <nightmist@g.......>
Subject:      Blues/Dancing in Toronto??

Sorry for the off-topic... Reply via private e-mail please?


My mother's going to Toronto THIS weekend and wants to know if
there's any places that offer

     (1) Blues music/dancing
     (2) Swing dancing (jitterbug/rock/"dance beat)
          -- her words, not mine...
     (3) Ballroom dancing

Any or all of the above. Names, locations, phones, etc. At least
names if nothing else.

Need info ASAP... Sorry.

Thanks for the help!

Tammy

Spamming for FOREVER KNIGHT!!                 The Mad Fax Spammer
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Save the Forever Knight TV show! Write nytmist@l.......
    or visit this web site (Site name *IS* case sensitive!!!):
     http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
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Date:         Thu, 20 Jun 1996 00:03:32 -0700
From:         Rick Bleyle <papaya@i.......>
Subject:      forkni-l letter

    Hey,
    I recently switched my computer to a differnt drive and all my
saved stuff was erased and I was wondering if any *nice* people out
there could send me the letter that you got when you were signed on to
forkni-l and/or fkfic

                        Thanking you in advance,
                            Kelley Bleyle

Kelley Bleyle
papaya@i.......
"You may envy mortality but, never aspire to it." LaCriox to Nick in
ashes to ashes
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Date:         Thu, 20 Jun 1996 00:16:32 -0700
From:         Wendy Marie Christensen <wendy@i.......>
Subject:      Re: forkni-l letter

>     I recently switched my computer to a differnt drive and all my
> saved stuff was erased and I was wondering if any *nice* people out
> there could send me the letter that you got when you were signed on to
> forkni-l and/or fkfic

I sent this to her.

-Wendy Marie-   \|/              Unnamed Faction*Cousin
               |o o|             "We *are* each other.  You will always
     -------ooO~(_)~Ooo------    be mine, eternally." LC to Nick
    wendy@i.......
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Date:         Thu, 20 Jun 1996 04:06:44 -0400
From:         Felicia Bollin <AriCon@a.......>
Subject:      The Fix and mortality (was:  Spolers: Blackwing)

Judith Freudenthal writes:

>Why didn't they do it in the Fix?  I suppose the answer was
>that he was waiting to do it properly and was overwhelmed by
>the fact that he could go out in the sun.  He did express his
>joy to Nat when he first when out into the sun

But that's the whole problem in a nutshell, Judy! :)  You said it yourself:

Those scenes in "the Fix" are *all* about HIS joy.  *Nick's* joy.
 Emphatically *not* Nat's joy.  IMO, from what I see on the screen, Nick
doesn't particularly give a damn about Nat's joy, or her despair for that
matter, at that particular moment/day.  He certainly didn't seem to think
much of her protests against dragging her to the Raven to see Janette (and
ask _her_ to join him in mortality-for-a-day, lest we forget <EG>).

And that, IMO, is why he doesn't sleep with Nat in "The Fix".   Nat doesn't
figure into Nick's reaction.  Not that I blame him for being a little
careless of what others are thinking in that really really big moment he's
worked for, for so long.  But, the fact remains, he *doesn't* seem to care.

I agree with the second half of your sentence--- he was overwhelmed by the
sunlight, to the point where he could think of nothing else but his newfound
mortality.  But I defy anyone to *show* me one moment in "The Fix" where Nick
looks at Nat as though he's even _thinking_ of "waiting to do it properly".
 IMO, he's not even thinking of it at all;  I might even say it looks like
the last thing on his mind.

But, of course, no N&N is ever going to agree with an Immortal Beloved on
this point ;)  Hey, at least we've actually *seen* Janette get a few kisses
from Nick <VBEG>.  For whatever their reasons, or whatever they might have
liked to do onscreen, given more time, the fact remains:  TPTB have never
*filmed*, for example, even one Nick/Nat what I would think of as a
"traditional" courtship scene, and they had three years in which to think of
giving us one.  To me, that says something.

I'm not sure what, but it says something <G>

Rattling the saber before the War for practice,
Felicia Bollin
AriCon@a.......
Ravenette*Immortal Beloved*MBDtK
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Date:         Thu, 20 Jun 1996 07:00:53 -0500
From:         TippiNB <Tippinb@i.......>
Subject:      Re: The Fix and mortality (was:  Spolers: Blackwing)

Judith Freudenthal writes:

>Why didn't they do it in the Fix?  I suppose the answer was that he was
>waiting to do it properly and was overwhelmed by the fact that he could go
>out in the sun.  He did express his joy to Nat when he first when out into
>the sun

Well, I dunno bout that...

Then Felicia wrote:

>Those scenes in "the Fix" are *all* about HIS joy.  *Nick's* joy.
> Emphatically *not* Nat's joy.  IMO, from what I see on the screen, Nick
>doesn't particularly give a damn about Nat's joy, or her despair for that
>matter, at that particular moment/day.

Oh dear I'm actually going to sort of defend Nick.  <Gasp!>  Here goes...

I don't think Nick can actually be blamed for this one.  <Thuds resound as
people all across the world fall out of their chairs.>  The reason, IMO, why
he was acting in such a selfish manner is because he was a *junkie*.  He was
either high or going through withdrawal in that ep.  What person addicted to
drugs thinks clearly or behaves like themselves?

>He certainly didn't seem to think
>much of her protests against dragging her to the Raven to see Janette (and
>ask _her_ to join him in mortality-for-a-day, lest we forget <EG>).

Well, he didn't seem to *think*, period.  The drugs were talking here.

Now, I am the *farthest* thing from a N&Npacker.  Well, the second farthest
thing. ;)  But I don't count this ep one way or the other in the ongoing
tally of "does he or doesn't he love Nat".  I don't count dreams because the
conscious brain doesn't have control over them and I don't count
drug-addicted stupors.  I'll count fantasies and daydreams, though. :)

To me, Nick and Nat's fantasies in Stranger Than Fiction say it all.  Nick
daydreams about Emily.  Nat daydreams about Nick.

****Wicked Cousin Tippi****
HEY!  Want FK stuff?  Sony needs to know that you want it! Contact
Anne at TV_ShowStuff@p....... and TELL her NOW! :)
"Poetry can be so deceiving." - LC in Baby, Baby
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Date:         Thu, 20 Jun 1996 08:41:23 -0400
From:         Mei Wa Kwong <kwongm@g.......>
Subject:      Re: The Fix and mortality (was: Spolers: Blackwing)

On Thu, 20 Jun 1996, Felicia Bollin wrote:

> But I defy anyone to *show* me one moment in "The Fix" where Nick
> looks at Nat as though he's even _thinking_ of "waiting to do it properly".

When he first walks out into the sun and grabs Nat.  He holds her away
from him for a moment and just looks at her.  Granted one might interept
it as gratefulness, but I think there is a valid argument there that
there is a lot more emotion behind that look than just gratefulness.

As for going to see Janette, there is also the argument that the reason
he did that was because Nat said they needed to test the drug on another
vampire.  That is in the dialogue, spoken by Nick.  Another good argument
there that he went to Janette not because he loves her, but he wanted to
test the drug on her.  In Janette's own words, she is not a lab rat.

  For whatever their reasons, or whatever they might have
> liked to do onscreen, given more time, the fact remains:  TPTB have never
> *filmed*, for example, even one Nick/Nat what I would think of as a
> "traditional" courtship scene, and they had three years in which to think of
> giving us one.

Traditional courtship scene?  How about Be My Valentine.  "Nat, what are
going to do about this?  The way we feel."  Nick begins stroking her face
and neck.  Her microwave goes off.  Nat:  "That's my two minute
gourment.  I guess I better-" He grabs her and kisses her.  Later in the
episode, he asks her "Are you afraid?"  No is her reply.  "Keep tonight
open?"  "I don't know I'll have to check my dance card."  Or how about
"Let No Man Tear Asunder", last scene.  "I like the whole package." he
moves in to kiss her and she ducks it.  Errr, nothing between them?  I
don't think sooooooooo.

:)
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Date:         Thu, 20 Jun 1996 09:31:16 -0400
From:         Lisa Nullar <AlyraLii@a.......>
Subject:      Re: Sony, TV_ShowStuff and FK Merchandise

Just as a suggestion... and I could be wrong, but when I wrote
TV_ShowStuff@p....... (and bugged most of my friends to do so as well :)
 I included some of my demographics... ie: let them know how old I was,
living situation (single/renting/level of education) and yearly income so
that they have an idea that I have disposable income (well, not really, but
they don't need to know that <g>), to let them know who was sending in with
the requests.

Lisa Marie
alyralii@a.......
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Date:         Thu, 20 Jun 1996 08:40:33 -0500
From:         Carrie Krumtum <carriek@e.......>
Subject:      Ger and a new series

Well, well, well... Thanks to Mr. Mollin my mind has been reduced to
this one musing...Ger in a new series.

Speculation runs rampant. What kind of series, comedy? Drama? Will he be
the guy next door with the annoying laugh, the eyes we see over the
fence and nothing else (homicide is comtemplated for any TV exec to also
consider this), the apartment handyman, the ex-boyfriend with an
inability to let go of the past, a flight steward having a really bad
hair day...

Will he be a cop, a doctor, a lawyer (kind of liked this idea, with a
voice like that courtroom and real bedroom scenes would be wonderful) a
construction worker, a janitor, a librarian <g>, a cyberspace junkie?

I've managed to conjure up all sorts of interesting scenarios, some that
make me smile, cry, shudder or laugh for joy. What I wouldn't give for a
few more tidbits on this subject. I don't want to get Fred in trouble or
anything (and I do thank you Fred for sharing this news) but this has
been working in my imagination overtime.

Sooo (yes, there is a point to this post...stop laughing in the back)...
If you could create a series for Ger, what would it be about? What kind
of role would you give him now? Come on, I know you've dreamed about him
doing something other than a vampire or a helicopter pilot...now's your
chance to let us all know what you'd like to see him do.

As for me, the lawyer thing sounds pretty good. If he was a new lawyer,
say right out of school, refused the law group thing and chose to do it
on his own. Fighting for the underdog and all, lots a pretty women to
save, poor folks with no money to pay a bigtime lawyer...he'd be kinda
poor himself, his living conditions would be...interesting. He'd have
this half regular secretary whom he couldn't pay well but has a heart of
gold and thinks he's cute. He would be oblivious, of course (kinda like
the brickish nature of my favorite blonde <g>) but eventually come
around. He would love a good fight in the courtroom, but be kind of
inept because of his lack of experience...still, the judges would
appreciate his enthusiams and cut him some slack...a very small amount
of slack, and he would be paying contempt fines now and again. He would
argue intelligently and with passion when it was required, that
voice...oooo, that voice would fill the room. Oh, and of course, being
young, male and (not so)gainfully employed, he'd have to have a very
active social life...but be not quite as successful at it as he'd like.

There. I'd call it....Well, I haven't a klew what I'd call it. It sounds
good to me anyway.

What are your ideas? Who knows, maybe one of us will be close to the
truth?

See ya...
--
Carrie, Proud Knightie
The Nurse is a hampster
I finally had some sense knocked into me
and I have the bump to prove it!
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Date:         Thu, 20 Jun 1996 08:46:59 -0500
From:         Carrie Krumtum <carriek@e.......>
Subject:      Slow servers and tired hamsters...

I guess the posts are dropping a bit slow lately. I sent part 7 of
Breaking Dawn to the fkfic-l list LAST NIGHT and as of 9 am today it
still hasn't dropped. It's probably stuck in Uruguay....
--
Carrie, Proud Knightie
The Nurse is a hampster
I finally had some sense knocked into me
and I have the bump to prove it!
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Date:         Thu, 20 Jun 1996 09:53:03 EDT
From:         Tanya Smith <bodybldr@v.......>
Subject:      Ger and a new series

GER'S NEW HIP-HOP WORKOUT VIDEO STARRING NIGEL BENNETT!
"Alright sisters!  Let's do around the world!"
"L step!"
"Back to basic."
"Are we having fun yet Nigel?"
Nigel has this drole look on his face.
"Yes, Nic...I mean, Ger.  It's fabulous..." pant, pant, pant
"Now.  We are going to the weight lifting part of our video.  If
you have never lifted weights before, you should consult a physician
first.  Unless, of course, you are a vampire, in which case you
will need 7 extra olympic-size plates to even feel it.
Now, let's do some deep squats.  Ready?  One and two and thrust...
Do you feel the burn?  Do you feel it Nigel?"
"Yes Nic...I mean.  Ger.  Yes I feel the burn, I havefelt it before."
"Now Nigel, would you care to spot me on these squats?"
"I suppose I could do that."
"Alright ladies, here's the proper format to spot someone on a squat.
Stand directly behind your partner, and place your hands on his chest.
This will provide extra support so that your partner does not hurl
forward from the weight.  Now bend down with your partner...that's
it...good.  Feels good doesn't it?"
"I suppose Ger."
"Work those glutes, come on!"

O.K.  End of the Richard Simmonesque analogy.
My mind is back outta the gutter.
Tanya
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Date:         Thu, 20 Jun 1996 09:45:36 -0500
From:         ann raper <araper@v.......>
Subject:      YKYBWTM I&II

I.  You know you've been watching too much, etc. ... when while watching
"Babe" for the gazillionth time with your favorite 6 year old, you start to
wonder what would the movie had been like if, say, LC was Farmer Hogget?
Can pigs be carouches?

II.  You flip radio stations in the car and hear "Tell me you love me for a
million years, then if it don't work out..." and you think, "Ah, a love song
for Nick and Janette."  Or, after reading some of the adult fiction by the
Unnameds, make that a love song for LC and Nick.  ;)


Cousin Annibug, Voyeur Wannabe
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Date:         Wed, 19 Jun 1996 09:08:08 -0500
From:         Robbi Egersdorf <egersdor@m.......>
Subject:      Re: German fans' needs


>FK's worldwide fandom is wonderful, however, without wishing to insult anyone,
>before stepping up to say, yes--I will send copies of FK to German folks, make
>sure one has the correct vcr format.  GB and Europe use a different vcr system
>then North America.  Yes, this is a bummer--there are many GB tapes I want and
>can not run.

I have found this to be true in Australia, when I wanted to send a friend
some tapes.

Robbi
Knightie With Dark Tendencies
Long Live the Knight
egersdor@m.......
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Date:         Thu, 20 Jun 1996 08:36:34 PDT
From:         "Leslie I.Plummer" <lplummer@i.......>
Subject:      Re: Sony, TV_ShowStuff and FK Merchandise

Lisa Marie wrote:
>when I wrote TV_ShowStuff@p......., I included some of my demographics...
>let them know how old I was, single/renting/level of education, and yearly
>income so they have an idea <of my> disposable income <snip> to let them
>know who was sending in with the requests.

This is a great idea!  Anne Marion (from Showstuff) called me this
morning.  (Thanks to whomever who referred her to me yesterday.  We had
a nice chat & I sent her a long note about my consumer interests and
the types of things asked about in the Merchandise survey) and she
(remember Anne?) was thrilled that I had included some personal
demographics.  THEY NEED THAT INFO TOO to show to Sony!

Anne really wants as many personal emails to her, to forward to SONY in
her pitch as possible.  THIS WILL NOT TURN INTO SPAM!  In this case, the
more letters right now, the better.  Anne specifically is counting on us
to show ourselves!

p.s.  I did NOT tell Anne how many survey responses I have so far, nor
do I think it's wise to tell her.  Please do not forward my status report
to her.  Some of that information is for our eyes only, right now.

I did say that I've only been doing this for a month (since 5/19) and that
I will publish and early returns analysis on 7/1.  When I told her that
the response is now snowballing (i.e. copies of the email surveys being
printed and distributed, non-internet fans responding through the snailmail,
responses from seven (yes 7! Mexico checked in yesterday!) countries)
SHE WAS VERY EXCITED!  I also told her I'd continue the survey gathering
through 1996, for another analysis publication to coincide w/SciFi's
airing of 1st & 2nd seasons!  And, that the REAL news is the new fans
coming on board since 4/27 (SciFi), that this is mushrooming and that
SONY would be crazy not to take up the opportunity to make money from
this.

BTW: Anne says that SONY's last response was that it would be too much
trouble to draw up the legal papers, etc. for merchandise licencing, etc.
Anne's take is that SHOWSTUFF would be doing all the work in getting
manufacture, promotion, distribution, order fullfillment, etc done.
All SONY would have to do is deposit checks! (ahh, to have THAT job!)

So, in both my conversation to her & my email, I said it really comes
down to only ONE question for SONY:

Do THEY WANT our money, or do they want OTHERS to get our money?

Cause WE *ARE* SPENDING, right now!  We WILL spend more to see eps we
haven't seen, and to purchase ANYTHING related to FK. (I also
suggested she contact Crescendo.)

                            *    *    *

Keep sending in the surveys! I got about 20 more yesterday alone!
That's the way! Can we do 200+ ea by 6/26 (for 7/1 analysis)?
One week to go!

* -- * -- * -- * -- * -- * -- * -- * -- * -- * -- * -- * -- * -- * -- *
| Leslie  (lplummer@i.......)   ***FOREVER MEANS...FOREVER!!!*** |
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Date:         Thu, 20 Jun 1996 13:56:35 -0400
From:         Catherine Foster <CFoster425@a.......>
Subject:      Re: Ger and a new series

I can t believe I m posting something else to the list already.

Hi Carrie!  This is a neat thread.

Well, I thought Ger as a P.I. would be interesting.  He would come
from a very wealthy family.  Ya know, money and power.  He s been
groomed to follow in Daddy s footsteps: big education and all that
stuff.   But decides, for whatever reason, he doesn t want any
part of it and goes out on his own.  Daddy cuts him off,
but hopes it s just a phase and he ll regain his senses
sooner or later and come crawling back.  He has a tough
street-wise secretary who is at a lose as to why he would
give up the good life, but admires him for it all the same.  He still
has friends in the world of the rich who also question his decision.
Maybe he s got an old girl friend in that world that he still sees
every now and then?  He s more than happy to help the less fortunate.
He s good at his job, but because he seems drawn to cases of the
less fortunate, he isn t able to get too far ahead of the game.  Daddy
comes around every once in a while to see if he s ready to come
back.........

Wait a minute!  This sounds a bit too familiar.  Don t ya think?

Have you ever heard of this TV show about these two vampires?
One is the creation of the other and has this idea of breaking
away........  ;)

Oh, well.  I guess I m still a <little> too deep into Forever Knight :)

<big waves>  Hi Cherri!

Can't wait to read other ideas.

See ya.

Cathy
cfoster425@a.......
LONG LIVE THE KNIGHT!!!
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Date:         Thu, 20 Jun 1996 10:30:18 -0600
From:         Lisa Marvin <wyllow@n.......>
Subject:      Re: Ger and a new series

Carrie Krumtum wrote:

> If you could create a series for Ger, what would it be about?
> What are your ideas? Who knows, maybe one of us will be close to the
> truth?

 I think he would make a good private investigator, someone with lots of
interesting underground connections, and an even more interesting
clientele.  He would have some small trysts with women here and there,
but there would be one woman to whom he has given his true heart.  He
would have a seedy office in a darkish part of town, and his secretary
would be an older, motherly woman who tries to keep him organized and
who rolls her eyes at the various situations that he gets mixed up in,
particularly with the women.  He would have a buddy/sidekick/partner who
helps him pull off some of the plans and shemes that he uses in his
investigations, and who helps get him out of tight spots from time to
time.

Another character for Ger could be that of a writer of short stories,
who goes into and becomes a part of each story that he writes.  Each
episode of the show would be developed around one of these stories.  He
would have a group of "real-life" friends and not-so-friends that he
uses as characters in his various stories.
It might be interesting to gather together the actors from FK to be part
of a cast like this.  It wouldn't matter if the actors looked older by
now, because the vampire thing about not aging wouldn't be an issue.


Maybe some T.V. producer-type folks are lurking on this list, and we can
give them some good ideas?

Bye!

Lisa

--
Lisa M.,  fearless and everlasting Nick&NatPacker - (wyllow@n.......)
"Though lovers be lost love shall not..."  D.T.
SAVE FOREVER KNIGHT! - see this great webpage for details:
       http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
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Date:         Thu, 20 Jun 1996 10:53:00 -0600
From:         Lisa Marvin <wyllow@n.......>
Subject:      Re: The Fix and mortality (was: Spolers: Blackwing)

>Mei Wa Kwong wrote:
>
> On Thu, 20 Jun 1996, Felicia Bollin wrote:

> Traditional courtship scene?  How about Be My Valentine.  "Nat, what
>are we going to do about this?  The way we feel."  Nick begins stroking
>her face and neck.  Her microwave goes off.  Nat:  "That's my two
>minute gourment.  I guess I better-" He grabs her and kisses her.
>Later in the episode, he asks her "Are you afraid?"  No is her reply.
>"Keep tonight open?"  "I don't know I'll have to check my dance card."

I always thought it was a bummer that the writers let this part of the
storyline fade away like they did.  As I watch some episodes, I find
myself thinking "If he kisses her on the FOREHEAD one more time.......
Auuggghhhhh!"

--
Lisa M.,  fearless and everlasting Nick&NatPacker - (wyllow@n.......)
"Though lovers be lost love shall not..."  D.T.
SAVE FOREVER KNIGHT! - see this great webpage for details:
       http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
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Date:         Thu, 20 Jun 1996 11:38:49 -0600
From:         Lisa Marvin <wyllow@n.......>
Subject:      Re: Sony, TV_ShowStuff and FK Merchandise

Lisa P. wrote:
Regarding FK flyer:

>I have the Word 6.0 (for Windows) version, but can get the Mac version
>on the ftp site if needed.
> Lisa Patnaude


Please let me know how to access a MAC version.  I have several places
to post it.         Thanks!

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--
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"Though lovers be lost love shall not..."  D.T.
SAVE FOREVER KNIGHT! - see this great webpage for details:
       http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
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Date:         Thu, 20 Jun 1996 13:32:08 -0500
From:         "Partly K." <teke@d.......>
Subject:      Perkulator's Unite!!!!!!

With the war quickly approaching and the factions gathering up sides,
please note that the Perkulators are still searching for members.  I am the
leader with Kristina Mairi Buhrman second-in-command (Look Ma!!  I'm no
longer alone.).  Anyone wanting to be a Perkalator (The Few, The Proud, The
Obnoxiously Perky), let me know.  Remember, in order to be part of the war,
we need permission.  Don't miss out on this opportunity to be part of the
chaos.

As for all of you who, in the heat of battle to Save Forever Knight,
promissed your souls to me -- I mean, the Perkulators -- now is the time to
join us.  If you have divided loyalties and cannot, in good conscience,
become one with us, e-mail me and I will let you know what you have to do.
>:->.  Please do this even if you are not going to be part of the war as I
would still like your permission to use you.


Perkily yours,


Partly - The Perkulator
teke@d....... or PartlyK@a.......

"Being perky is revenge enough -- at six in the morning."
"Stupid, Stupid Rat Creatures!" - Bone
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Date:         Thu, 20 Jun 1996 15:06:23 -0500
From:         Sandra Gray <TMP_HARKINS@d.......>
Subject:      *RE: Ger and a new series*

Ger is going to be a Kindred vampire when the show restarts on
Showtime (Gangrel or Toreador). ;)

Ger is going to be a psychic investigator of supernatural occurrences
around the country.

He's going to play a cop (mortal, this time).

He's going to be on a "beach" show like Babewatch. ;)

He's going to play a doctor on yet another doctor show (hey, he's
done that in several movies already).

He's going to be a vet (hey, it's another doctor ;) ).

He's going to be a conniving, evil bastard J.R. Ewing type in another
glitzy nighttime soap (this would be kewl!).

He's going to be the romantic lead in a woman's drama (which will
entail him doing lots of love scenes and smiling a lot), probably a
lawyer, teacher, or businessman.

--Sandra Gray, forever Knightie
--tmp_harkins@d.......
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Date:         Thu, 20 Jun 1996 13:40:01 -0700
From:         Amy R. <akr@n.......>
Subject:      Nat's Methods (was Re: Nick and Cures)

Alora wrote:
>Whether or not those attempts pre- or post-date Natalie is really not
>important; the point is, that Nick jumps at cures that someone can give
>him, and shows no follow-through when it comes to cures that require his
>work.

Everybody know I'm a Knightie, not a Natpacker?  Good.  :-)

Alora, you're arguing from a false premise. You are presuming that there
were treatments in the past which "require his work" in the fashion that
Nat's do, and that Nick somehow rejected them.  I have never seen any
evidence of that.  In fact, if I recall 1966 correctly, Nick had been
searching for the Abbarat for *years*, and he had no idea of the nature of
the cure it was reputed to contain.  The fact that the other "cures" now
look like "fixes" is the responsibility of those who conceived them, not
of Nick for embracing them.

I submit that Natalie's methods are something entirely new in Nick's
experience.

Admittedly, third season has been bad for Nick.  But in first season, we
saw him take *garlic pills*, for goodness sake.  Nick has not been able to
entirely give up blood.  Perhaps this data is something Nat should
consider? As nearly as I can determine, she has changed nothing in her
approach in the past four years.  She is still working with vitamins and
protein shakes and the sunbed.  Her course of treatment seems to be to
make Nick take as much as he possibly can of the things that naturally
repulse or harm vampires.  (Strangely, she never did get around to making
him work with holy objects, though, perhaps because of her reluctance to
consider the spiritual side of his condition.)

That approach seems to imply that Nat believes Nick's condition to be
mainly psychological.  I think she should have enough evidence by now that
it is not, and she should reevaluate her treatments accordingly.

Frankly, by not giving Natalie more scenes going over her research and
working with Nick, TPTB have made *her* appear to have at least as much of
a problem with follow-through as Nick does.  She has not been portrayed as
a diligent scientist for a long, long time, and her professional standards
in two spoiler-protected episodes are also questionable.

**** Amy R., Lady of the Knight  (akr@n.......) ****
"Memory's/ like wine; it might keep, it might turn." -- LF
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