FORKNI-L
Logfile LOG9606A Part 2
June 1-June 2, 1996
File: "FORKNI-L LOG9606A" Part 2
TOPICS:
for Western USA Sat FK/Weird Science (2)
Blood Money
GWD on Nick/LC, and LK (No Spoilers)
FTP Fanfic Site
pushing the NK/LC faction? (3)
%@*&%Cable (6)
Devil's advocate (5)
Sunset Stories
Great GWD's Chocolate Pizza
Alyce
Cousin Pins (was: Light Cousin Symbol) (8)
Putting out the Word
mercenaries
YKYBWTMW....
Nick and the Unnameds
Bad Blood - a question...
LaCroix's Personality
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Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 20:45:05 -0500
From: John & Donna Spert <jjs@i.......>
Subject: for Western USA Sat FK/Weird Science
Hi,
I just watched a FK parody on tonight Weird Science on USA. I'm on the
East coast, so maybe you out West can still catch it.
Donna
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Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 23:08:28 -0400
From: Nathanial Cook <NatRobin@a.......>
Subject: Re: Blood Money
You wrote:
>BTW, the vampire gardener's name is "Feliks Twist".
I also thought that this was an interesting character. Does anyone know if
he ever showed up in any other FK episodes?
Also, I just re-watched "Dark Knight." Does anyone know if Alysse (sp?) ever
showed up in any other episodes?
Jess Chekkin'!!!
NAT!!! (Raven of the Knight)
NatRobin@a.......
"A word to the wise: Immortality's no excuse not to floss." -- Nick Knight
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Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 20:57:03 -0700
From: Raissa Devereux <1595@e.......>
Subject: Re: GWD on Nick/LC, and LK (No Spoilers)
Hi all,
LC licks blood on his finger after taking it off Nick's face in the
flashback sequence of Trophy Girl. Nick steals his dinner. :) :)
Until next time,
Raissa Devereux
raissa@i.......
I've got places to go, people to dissect.- Natalie Lambert
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Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 20:45:39 -0700
From: Kathy L <kathryn@u.......>
Subject: FTP Fanfic Site
Hi all
Just wondering if anyone knows what the status of the FTP site (for FK
fanfic) is. I've accessed it (the /lms5 directory at psu) and there
doesn't seem to be an 'fkstories' directory anymore. Am I looking in the
right place or is it still under revision?
Kathy
kathryn@u.......
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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 01:35:55 -0400
From: Bast Khemet <bast@c.......>
Subject: Re: pushing the NK/LC faction?
On Sat, 1 Jun 1996, J.S. Levin/Stormsinger wrote:
> Uh, embarrassed confession: me, too. Don't tell me they don't exist -- I
> went looking for witches while I was at it, and I'll bet you can guess
> *that* didn't end in failure <G>!
>
Woo hoo! Sounds like me...found the witches *mischevious grin*, and am
waiting to find the vampires. Kinda funny, all this "fiction" that's out
there. Like my friend Eris (yeah, that's her name, Discordians might
recognize it) has said, "Way to preserve the Masquerade." (It's a
Vampire role-laying game term, for those who're going "huh?" right about
now.)
--Bast
*still waiting on that sig*
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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 02:22:05 -0400
From: Stephanie Way <Biancaswan@a.......>
Subject: %@*&%Cable
Hmmmpf... my cable carrier TCI ( who esle is there?) claims they won't be
getting Sci-fi Channnel for years. Their equipment is outdated, no room for
the channel, blah,blah. Gee is this the sort of thing they want peopel to
know. ( "Our service sucks, news at eleven"). I HATE TCI.
SW
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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 02:22:09 -0400
From: Stephanie Way <Biancaswan@a.......>
Subject: Devil's advocate
OK no flames please but here's a thought:
Why should we- who have no corporate power- continue to fight for a cancelled
show when even that weenie James Parriott, per his comments, doesn't voice
much enthusiasm for the idea of reviving the show ? (Maybe HE should be
replaced.)
I mean come on , after all this time, it doesn't look like it's going to
happen. To TPTB they fullfilled their obligation to us by reviving teh show
the first time around. As far as they are concerned it's through and NO
amount of viewer interest is going to make them change their tiny, minds.
Discuss.
SW " The Gods kill us for their sport"
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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 02:44:09 -0400
From: "Lisa P." <LadysAVamp@a.......>
Subject: Re: %@*&%Cable
Join the club!! I have Continental Cablevision and they told me at this time
they have no plans on adding SFC to the lineup. Said it was too expensive.
I told them I was willing to pay for it. Didn't help. They tried to sell me
HBO instead. I told them "SFC or nothing!"
My .02 cents worth.
Lisa P.
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Only one thing is truly permanent...Forever Knight
Cousinly Knightie w/NatPacker tendencies <I do so hate to limit myself>
LadysAVamp@a....... -- "Hey, who you calling a lady!?!"
oboyyme@t....... -- <Lacroix's unheard thoughts at end of LK>
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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 02:51:44 -0400
From: "Lisa P." <LadysAVamp@a.......>
Subject: Re: Devil's advocate
Why should we fight? Because it has become "our" show and we want it to
continue in whatever format - 4th season eps (not much of a chance) or 2-hour
movies. We may have no corporate powers but we have the power of numbers.
If we present a united front, then perhaps, just perhaps, someone will
listen.
And "tiny minds" have a way of growing, especially if profit is a factor. If
it is deemed that there is a profit to be made, i.e. FK merchandise or 2-hour
movies, then wee minds may have to listen.
Eternally optimistic!! Keep believing. Don't let the tiny minds of the
world get you down!!
Lisa P.
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Only one thing is truly permanent...Forever Knight
Cousinly Knightie w/NatPacker tendencies <I do so hate to limit myself>
LadysAVamp@a....... -- "Hey, who you calling a lady!?!"
oboyyme@t....... -- <Lacroix's unheard thoughts at end of LK>
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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 00:30:19 -0700
From: Wendy Marie Christensen <wendy@i.......>
Subject: Re: %@*&%Cable
On Sun, 2 Jun 1996, Lisa P. wrote:
> Join the club!! I have Continental Cablevision and they told me at this time
> they have no plans on adding SFC to the lineup. Said it was too expensive.
My Continental Cablevision (how many are there???) told us the same thing
for the longest time... no way ever they said.... but you can have the
comedy channel. well the day before they but the comedy chanell on I
called again and asked fo SF and they said noway not gona happen.... but
when I went to look at the station they said was comedy....it was SF....
(we got the comedy chanell too) so don't lose faith they may suprise you.
kep the dream alove that everyone everywhere can have SciFi.
-Wendy Marie- \|/ Unnamed Faction*Cousin
|o o| "We *are* each other. You will always
-------ooO~(_)~Ooo------ be mine, eternally." LC to Nick
wendy@i.......
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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 03:54:10 -0400
From: Angie <alasher@e.......>
Subject: Re: Devil's advocate
>Why should we fight? Because it has become "our" show and we want it to
>continue in whatever format - 4th season eps (not much of a chance) or 2-hour
>movies. We may have no corporate powers but we have the power of numbers.
Ahh yes, and do you know what other power we have? The power of the almighty
buck!
~~~~~~~~~~~Lasher~~~~~~~~~~~
~Bunny~Unnamed Faction~ MOO~
~~~~~~Cousins of the Knight~~~~~~
^^http://home.earthlink.net/~alasher^^
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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 04:32:46 -0400
From: Joy Davis <Rjoi@a.......>
Subject: Re: %@*&%Cable
Hi all!
I just found the FK ep list on the net and noticed an ep listed Avenging
Angel. Am I missing an ep???
My local network never showed this... can anyone help me with this--thanks!
enJOYing FK
Cousin of the Knight~~~Unnamed Faction
& all around crazy for FK!
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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 04:36:11 -0400
From: Joy Davis <Rjoi@a.......>
Subject: Re: %@*&%Cable
Wendy wrote on 6/2: calbe won't be showing FK
Alot of you guys out there don't seem to be getting SciFi channel. I
remember being in this delimma with another show
I have several VCRs. If anyone is interested, I could tape (without editing
commercials) for several people. Let me know. First come, first serve, to
be fair.
enJOYing FK
Cousin of the zknight~~~Unnamed Faction
& all around crazy for FK!
Joy
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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 04:42:38 -0400
From: Marcia Tucker <ScFiMarci@a.......>
Subject: Sunset Stories
Amy R. <akr@n.......> wrote:
>>And I'm a Disney-movie kind of gal. Sigh. Anyone up for a good "Nick and
Nat walking into the sunrise together" story? I know there has to be one
around here somewhere....<<
Er, how about a Nick and Janette walking into the sunset together story? ;D
:::runniing madly from N&Npackers:::
Sorry, I couldn't resist!
Marcia Tucker
scfimarci@a.......
Dark Knightie / Immortal Beloved
Finished with above story and editing/preparing it to post!
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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 11:14:16 -0400
From: Beth Brown <BKBVA@a.......>
Subject: Great GWD's Chocolate Pizza
Hi
From Beth and Sue
We made (actually Beth did all the work and I just ate it) the chocolate
pizza. It was great. We did not play around with the recipe and made it
exactly to order.
What we want to know is who is the 4 people this is suppose to serve. It
could feed at least 8. We had half a pie left after 4 people ate it , three
of whom had second helpings.
Sue
susankenn@a.......
And
Beth
BKBVA@a.......
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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 11:24:06 -0400
From: Beth Brown <BKBVA@a.......>
Subject: Re: for Western USA Sat FK/Weird Science
How do you know it was an FK parody. Please tell us all about it since I
would never watch Weird Science since I am boycotting USA most of the time
(except for things such as Hush Little Baby, Etc)
Beth and Sue
BKBVA and Susankenn@a.......
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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 11:27:51 EDT
From: Lisa McDavid <D020214@v.......>
Subject: Alyce
Someone asked if Alyce Hunter, the museum curator turned vampire from
Dark Knight, ever reappeared.
No, she didn't. According to Ger at Toronto Trek '93, the character
had been intended for four episode appearances. The producers decided
they didn't care for the actress in the role and didn't use her further.
I have always throught that the producers may have realized that with
the Coroner rewritten as a woman, and Janette made Nick's on-again-off-
again lover, Alyce simply didn't fit in any longer as a continuing
character.
In case anyone's wondering, they hadn't decided right up until shooting
whether Nick and Janette had a history, and if so what kind. This is
according to Deborah Duchene at Dead of Winter 2.
Cousin Lisa -- "That will be trouble."
Lisa McDavid
mcdavid-lisa@s.......
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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 11:42:48 -0400
From: Bast Khemet <bast@c.......>
Subject: Re: Devil's advocate
On Sun, 2 Jun 1996, Stephanie Way wrote:
> Why should we- who have no corporate power- continue to fight for a cancelled
> show
IMHO, because it's actually a good show that's on tv, and there's so few
good shows! Also, we *do* have corporate power. Whenever any one of us
goes shopping, that's showing our corporate power. Every time you spend
money, you are supporting or not supporting various corporations...so
therefore, *you* have the ultimate power. If enough people don't buy a
product, they go out of business. (Do you know how many of my friends
and I boycott Marvel Comics? Sounds tacky, but eventually enough people
are going to get sick of their tricks and they're going to be hurting!)
> doesn't voice enthusiasm for the idea of reviving the show ?
Also IMHO, anyone not voicing enthusiasm doesn't know a good thing when
they see it. FK is one of the better shows out there. (was. *sigh*)
> As far as they are concerned it's through and NO
> amount of viewer interest is going to make them change their minds.
Doesn't matter to me....even if I can't get my show back (I call it
"mine" because none of my other friends, fools that they are, watch FK),
I'm going to get a few novels and soundtracks out of the deal, and even
though I want the show, I would *love* tv movies with *anything here is
spoiler protected, though I think those whove seen AtoA and LK know what
I mean*.
My $0.02 for ya!
--Bast
*yeah, I know, still no sig*
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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 11:46:39 -0400
From: Will Steeves <goid@i.......>
Subject: Cousin Pins (was: Light Cousin Symbol)
Amy R. <akr@n.......> writes:
>The symbol of the "True" Cousins is a black cross on a white background.
I was under the impression that the Cousins pin had been changed from a black
cross of the Lorraine region of France, to a pair of Roman olive branches? Am
I mistaken? (btw, I've also forwarded this letter to Susan Garrett, our
Official Affiliation Pin Goddess :-) , because this particular question has
been on my mind for several months now...)
I was of the impression that this change was made, because:
1) LaCroix wasn't _really_ French! He was in fact, for those who didn't watch
"A More Permanent Hell", a Roman General in his pre-vampire days.
2) The cross symbol offended the religious sensibilities of many of the
Cousins who would have had to wear them. (If anyone wishes an explanation of
this, please e-mail me privately).
3) Well...crosses and vampires...well, you know....they just don't mix! :-)
Now, as for what a "Cousin Lite" button might look like...I draw a blank.
(literally, perhaps! :-) )
Cheers,
Perky Cousin Will, Honourary Knightie (after the Shrewthering), FoD Squad &c.
---
Will Steeves, B.Sc. (Toronto, 1991), goid@i....... - "Neil Hull is GOiD"
Publisher & Managing Editor, The New Edition (U of T); Nu '96, Psi Upsilon
Ontario Area Coordinator, FREE (http://www.vix.com/free)
If possession is 9/10 of the law, what's the other 1/10? - Steeves' Laws Vol. I
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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 11:06:01 -0500
From: D Echelbarger <gryphon@e.......>
Subject: Re: Cousin Pins (was: Light Cousin Symbol)
On Sun, 2 Jun 1996, Will Steeves <goid@i.......> wrote:
>Now, as for what a "Cousin Lite" button might look like...I draw a blank.
>(literally, perhaps! :-) )
Sorry, Will, but the "blank affiliation pin" is already taken. :)
I've got one. Susan made it up for me at MWC, which I believe makes it
semi-official, since she's in charge of them.
So you'll have to come up with something else.
Diane E
The Unaffiliated
# D Echelbarger gryphon@e....... #
# WWW HomePage: http://www.execpc.com/~echelbar/ #
# "Death cannot stop True Love" Wesley, _Princess Bride_ #
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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 16:08:30 GMT
From: Jamie Melody Randell <immajer@n.......>
Subject: Re: Cousin Pins (was: Light Cousin Symbol)
On Jun 02, 1996 11:46:39, 'Will Steeves <goid@i.......>' wrote:
>I was under the impression that the Cousins pin had been changed from a black
>cross of the Lorraine region of France, to a pair of Roman olive branches? Am
>I mistaken?
Yeah, pretty much mistaken, actually.
There was an alternative laurel-wreath design made available on the
affiliation BADGES that I was making, awhile back (and may continue to
make, if I can ever get my inkjet printer to agree w/me on the issue).
These badges were laminated, name-tag-sized, and contained the affiliation
symbol from the pins, the person's name & the list name, and I sold them
for something like seven or eight bucks.
The badges, however, were and are wholly separate from the affiliation
PINS, which Susan (who is an Empress, btw, not a Goddess; her objection to
the latter being, I believe, due to the fact that those human sacrifices
can get pretty messy) distributes for free at cons and thru the mail if you
send a padded SASE, and in exchange for charity donations if you want a
full set. (Details of this set-up are available from Susan; I think you
can link to her affiliation pin page from http://www.vitinc.com/~susang)
The laurel wreath was never actually put on an affiliation pin, as far as I
know. And a good thing, too. For I have witnessed the sight of
Susan-And-Her-Affiliation-Pins, and it is a formidable array of envelopes
and labels and foamcore backings that would strike fear into the heart of
the staunchest office-supply advocate. "Our Susan" has done an incredible
and conscientious job of creating and maintaining the Affiliation Pin
Supply (spoken by one who should know, one who has laundered and/or lost
more affiliation pins over the last few months than ANY other member of the
FORKNI lists) and if she were to actually begin offering alternate
affiliation designs, I think that it might cause her brain cells to
spontaneously implode. And then where would we be?
Speaking as a charter member of the Committee to Preserve Susan's Sanity
(it's officially an endangered species, I believe) I say, let well enough
alone. :-)
--
-:-:-:-:- Jamie M.R. <immajer@n.......> -:-:-:-:-
Asst. Listowner, The Smoking Natpacker, ConvCoS, NDNEDnik
-->>> Illustrated Webgoddess & Keeper of Warm Fuzzies <<<--
** List Rules <http://cac.psu.edu/~jap8/FK/FKRules.html> **
The Truth Is Out There. Just maybe not in our jurisdiction.
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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 09:37:42 -0700
From: Amy R. <akr@n.......>
Subject: Re: Cousin Pins (was: Light Cousin Symbol)
On Sun, 2 Jun 1996, Will Steeves wrote:
> Now, as for what a "Cousin Lite" button might look like...I draw a blank.
> (literally, perhaps! :-) )
If that was meant to be a True Cousinly taunt, then you've struck home.
I'm first and foremost a Knightie, and you know how we react to those
things.... :)
We are *NOT* "LITE" Cousins! Examine the words: "not" and "lite."
We are *LIGHT* Cousins.
We don't like the "let's get naked" LC any more than anyone else.
We loathe him, too.
A Light Cousin is like the opposite of a Dark Knightie. Where they want
Nick to embrace his vampiric side, we want LaCroix to embrace his
humanity. In short, we want to *redeem* LC. We want him to learn from
Nick's quest, if not necessarily embrace it.
A Light Cousin gets to both admire LC, for his intelligence, eloquence,
loyalty, and dedication to his own code, and condemn him, for his cruelty,
his manipulation, his *evil*.
AMPH, where LC muses on the existence of God and the value of the human
race, is the ultimate Light Cousin episode not currently under spoiler
protection. BMV, where Fleur awakens in him a humanity and capacity for
self-sacrifice he thought long since dead and buried, is my favorite Light
Cousin episode. Fever strays onto Light Cousinly ground, as does SoB, and
some spoiler protected things.
If someone would *like* to be a "Lite Cousin," more power to them.
But I know I speak for myself and Idalia, and I suspect for the other
three as well, when I say, *they would be distinct from us.*
*** Amy, Lady of the Knight (akr@n.......) ***
** Knightie *** Light Cousin *** Fleur-Booster **
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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 12:36:18 -0500
From: Annmarie McKee- Fitzgerald <mickey@c.......>
Subject: Re: Devil's advocate
At 02:22 AM 6/2/96 -0400, Biancaswan@a....... wrote:
>Why should we- who have no corporate power- continue to fight for a cancelled
>show when even that weenie James Parriott, per his comments, doesn't voice
>much enthusiasm for the idea of reviving the show ? (Maybe HE should be
>replaced.)
You asked for no flames, so don't take this as one, but after all the recent
discussion of weight, I think that it was made clear to everyone that we
don't make personal comments about real people and I take offense to your
name calling of JP.
Would you be kind enough to share these "comments" he made with the rest of us?
And try and remember that we wouldn't have had the FK that we've all enjoyed
without him.
I've never seen him post anything that said he was interested in another
season. To the contrary he told me that he would be more than happy to
continue FK.
>I mean come on , after all this time, it doesn't look like it's going to
>happen. To TPTB they fullfilled their obligation to us by reviving teh show
>the first time around. As far as they are concerned it's through and NO
>amount of viewer interest is going to make them change their tiny, minds.
TPTB have no obligation to us, don't kid yourself. The industry is motivated
by money, not sentiment. I refuse to be pushed around though, if I want the
show to succeed or return, then I have to show my support for it by watching
it, supporting the sponsors, let the TPTB know that its being watched and
bringing new viewers to the show.
Too many people it seems have given up the fight. I don't see as many sigs
with the SOS/FK web page in them or information about when FK is shown on
the SciFi channel. People are buying computers every day and signing on to
this medium. By having it in your sig, you could attract other FK fans, ones
that didn't even know we were here and fighting.
Annmarie
FOREVER KNIGHT: Now showing on the SciFi Channel Mondays, 8pm, 12am EST
FOREVER KNIGHT SOS/FK: http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
*Cousin* *Vachon Ogler* *MPPB* *MPEB* *XPhile* *DMC* *PWFC* *MFW Cavalry*
*Ambassador to the "Old Dude"*
***The Mother of Invention *had* to have been a single mother!***
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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 12:06:52 -0500
From: Margie Hammet <treeleaf@i.......>
Subject: Re: pushing the NK/LC faction?
At 04:15 PM 6/1/96 -0500, TippiNB wrote in reply to my post:
>Is it that you think that homoeroticism in and of itself
>nullifies anything "meaningful and poignant"?
This was not the point of my post, and I feel the need to reply to it,
because homophobia is one of those things that gets my blood pressure
soaring really high. I said at the very beginning of my post that I think
that sexual attraction and love between people is one of the best things
in the world, maybe _the_ best thing in the world, and I don't care whether
the people involved are different sexes or the same sex.
I don't mean this post as a flame to Tippi. I hope it was just an honest
misunderstanding.
Margie (treeleaf@i.......)
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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 12:19:29 -0500
From: "J.S. Levin/Stormsinger" <wabbit@e.......>
Subject: Re: Cousin Pins (was: Light Cousin Symbol)
Will Steeves says:
>I was under the impression that the Cousins pin had been changed from a black
>cross of the Lorraine region of France, to a pair of Roman olive branches?
I like this image, for all the reasons he listed. A black wreath, perhaps,
on a white background; with the "Light Cousin" symbol being the reverse of
same?
I had thought that the cross was being used because of his name, obviously.
I can understand how that could be somewhat disturbing to any number of
people for a variety of reasons, including those Will listed -- not French,
religion, cross & vampires not being exactly compatible -- and personally,
I think it would be a good idea to avoid it. Let's not borrow trouble,
either here or in the wider world of Fandom.
As an alternative, how about LaCroix's *sword pin* -- white on black for the
Cousins, because that's the actual image; with something entirely different
(the laurel?) for the Light Cousins?
THIS DOES NOT MEAN I WANT TO CREATE MORE WORK FOR THE AFFILIATION PIN
EMPRESS OR CAUSE HER ANY MENTAL DAMAGE!! REALLY!! Just makin' conversation,
mate; nothin' t'get yer knickers in a twist about! (I *do not* want the
Webgoddess mad at me!!)
Storm (Vaquera, Scrapper, Gangrel)
wabbit@e....... (J.S.Levin/Stormsinger)
Their canon met my imagination and was outgunned.
If you practice being fictional, you discover that "characters"
are as real as people with bodies and heartbeats...
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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 12:29:33 -0500
From: "J.S. Levin/Stormsinger" <wabbit@e.......>
Subject: Re: Putting out the Word
A little something: the college that I presently work at has a big display
just outside the mail room and on the way to the cafeteria (that is, *high*
traffic) of a "Web", on which they want people to post their favorite sites.
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html will be going up on
their board tomorrow.
It's a Catholic women's college. Hope nobody faints. <EG>
Storm (Vaquera, Scrapper, Gangrel)
wabbit@e....... (J.S.Levin/Stormsinger)
Their canon met my imagination and was outgunned.
If you practice being fictional, you discover that "characters"
are as real as people with bodies and heartbeats...
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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 10:43:02 -0700
From: Amy R. <akr@n.......>
Subject: Re: Cousin Pins (was: Light Cousin Symbol)
Idalia and I, the "active" Light Cousins, agreed that the appropriate
symbol for the Light Cousins is the one suggested by Lisa McDavid -- the
normal, black on white, cross Cousin symbol, with rays emanating from
behind it, as if from the sun. This works with both the word "light" and
the concept of redemption for LC. It has the added advantage that it can
be created from a regular Cousin pin with a black pen and a ruler... :)
*** Amy, Lady of the Knight (akr@n.......) ***
** Knightie *** Light Cousin *** Fleur-Booster **
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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 11:01:57 -0700
From: Swordsister <catheboo@c.......>
Subject: Re: Cousin Pins (was: Light Cousin Symbol)
On Sun, 2 Jun 1996, J.S. Levin/Stormsinger wrote:
Re: whys and wherefores of the cross on the Cousin badge
> I can understand how that could be somewhat disturbing to any number of
> people for a variety of reasons, including those Will listed -- not French,
Well, yes, Lacroix is not French. However, as you said yourself, the
badge is based on his name. His name *is* French. Besides, purely
practically speaking, I'm sure the badges were made looong before AMPH
aired. But that's just a side note.
> religion, cross & vampires not being exactly compatible -- and personally,
I can see how this can make some people antsy, but remember that this
was a name Lacroix chose for himself, this isn't something anyone else is
trying to ram down his throat or yours. Frankly, I figure he chose it
*because* of the reasons you stated above... to evoke precisely the
discomfort you're feeling. Why go through the effort to put someone
off-guard, when merely the sound of your name will cause any
self-respecting vampire to pale?
But, not being a Cousin or a Light Cousin... heck, I don't even have a
vote. This, as ever, is just my interpretation of the matter.
Catherine
---------------------------------------------------------------
Catherine Boone Knightie HBTS catheboo@c.......
"Millions long for immortality who do not know what to do with
themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon." - H. L. Mencken
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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 14:07:44 -0400
From: Bast Khemet <bast@c.......>
Subject: mercenaries
Is there a mercenaries loop that I could get in on? Just curious, sorry
to take up the bandwidth...I'm thinking that my affiliation *might* be
bought...
*mischevious grin*
--Bast
*I'll get a sig...when I get around to joining the Procrastinator's Society*
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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 14:01:44 -0500
From: TippiNB <Tippinb@i.......>
Subject: Re: Cousin Pins (was: Light Cousin Symbol)
Amy wrote:
>A Light Cousin gets to both admire LC, for his intelligence, eloquence,
>loyalty, and dedication to his own code, and condemn him, for his cruelty,
>his manipulation, his *evil*.
Well, then, I have the perfect symbol for your pin. A slice of cake with a
bite taken out of it, symbolizing having one's cake and eating it, too. ;)
Wicked Cousin Tippi, dollar bill wrangler of the Thong Throng!
*Founding Member of the Unnamed Faction*Voyeur of the Menage LaCroix*
"Happiness is a warm Nicholas." - LaCroix
Wickedness Site! http://www.netcom.com/~tippinb/wicked.html
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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 14:19:13 -0500
From: TippiNB <Tippinb@i.......>
Subject: Re: pushing the NK/LC faction?
Margie wrote:
>I don't mean this post as a flame to Tippi. I hope it was just an honest
>misunderstanding.
Of course not. Flames usually involve name calling and I didn't see any of
that. ;)
I'm just still really confused by your post. I don't see anyone "pushing"
the sensual aspect of the NK/LC relationship. Perhaps you could clarify
what you meant by this?
FK fandom, as I see it, is big enough and diverse enough to support any and
all POVs. I have no problem with people writing posts advocating LC embrace
his humanity, even though that concept is as vile to me as cold pea soup. I
do not see the romantic aspect of the N&N relationship, but I have no
problem with people posting their thoughts on it. Because, of course, I can
always post as well.
This is one of the things I like about this fandom. There is an openness
and diversity of opinion - and such is encouraged - that leaves room for
*all* interpretations.
When you say that you wish people should stop "pushing" certain aspects of
the NK/LC relationship, do you mean that we just shouldn't discuss it
anymore? I really want to understand where you're coming from.
Wicked Cousin Tippi, dollar bill wrangler of the Thong Throng!
*Founding Member of the Unnamed Faction*Voyeur of the Menage LaCroix*
"Happiness is a warm Nicholas." - LaCroix
Wickedness Site! http://www.netcom.com/~tippinb/wicked.html
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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 17:41:37 -0400
From: "Tammy Pond [Digest]" <nightmist@g.......>
Subject: YKYBWTMW....
...You rent the movie VAMPIRE IN BROOKLYN (a blast, btw...Definite
comedy, definitely -not- typical Eddie Murphy) and you realize
that Wes Craven MUST have been watching too much FK because...
= The lead female is named Vetter (or something that
sounds damn close to it!) No, the first name is NOT
Tracy, it's Rita
= People keep saying that this character "is a good cop!"
= We realize very early into the flick that said cop
is also a half-vampire (don't ask...you've gotta watch it
to understand. <grin>)
Sorry, no fights with the water cooler in the film. That would have
been absolutely priceless, although I ROFL'd when I heard "She's a
good cop!" <rolling eyeballs>
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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 13:04:53 -0700
From: Amy R. <akr@n.......>
Subject: Nick and the Unnameds
(I'm still on digest; my apologies if this has been addressed already.)
Someone commented that the emphasis some people put on the erotic aspect
of Nick and LC's relationship makes them uncomfortable, and several people
seemed to take offense at this.
Frankly, that emphasis bothers me as well, not because I don't respect
their right to their opinions, but because I believe it would bother Nick.
There is a certain underlying tension between them on that level, but it
has been noted before that it comes almost entirely from LC. Nick is
ostentatiously heterosexual. The best example I can think of is to
contrast the flashbacks of Near Death and NiQ. When Nick, newly come
across, is sucking at LC's wrist, NB manages to give LC a positively
enraptured expression. In NiQ, when the injured LC is sucking at Nick's
wrist, Nick's expression is one of the utmost distaste and disgust.
I believe that Nick's feelings for LC simply do not exist on that level;
LC is his father, teacher, enemy and friend, not his lover. I believe
that any emphasis on the erotic aspect of the relationship is unfair to
Nick unless it is done from LC's pov. And I believe that too much
emphasis on the erotic aspect of the relationship is unfair to LC, who is
more complex than that in many ways -- one of which can be described
through Selene, Janette and, most importantly, Fleur, his true love.
Just MHO, of course.
*** Amy, Lady of the Knight (akr@n.......) ***
** Knightie *** Fleur-Booster *** Light Cousin **
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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 13:16:07 -0700
From: Kathy L <kathryn@u.......>
Subject: Bad Blood - a question...
Hi all
Could somebody who has seen 'Bad Blood' tell me the name of the English
inspector that was going after Jack the Ripper in this episode?
Thanks!
Kathy
kathryn@u.......
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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 16:16:46 -0400
From: "J.A. Stafford" <KnightGal@a.......>
Subject: LaCroix's Personality
Dear Everyone:
I am in the process of writing some fiction centred around LaCroix. I
believe I understand the character fairly well, but I would appreciate any
input from anyone out there as to what they think are some things that LC
would never, ever do (apart from staking Nick!), just to further ensure that
my story is believable.
Can anyone help?
Cousin J
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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 16:32:16 -0400
From: Trisha Morris <PMorris231@a.......>
Subject: Re: %@*&%Cable
In a message dated 96-06-02 02:44:36 EDT, you write:
>Join the club!! I have Continental Cablevision and they told me at this time
>they have no plans on adding SFC to the lineup. Said it was too expensive.
>
>
Hi,
I called my Continental Cablevision, here in the Lowell, MA area on Friday.
I was told that they were laying new cables now and that we would have SFC by
September at the latest.
Trish
PMorris231@a.......
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