FORKNI-L
Logfile LOG9606A Part 1
June 1, 1996
File: "FORKNI-L LOG9606A" Part 1
TOPICS:
Blooper "Last Knight"
Oh, G-d, here comes another
Nigel for Congress?
Name Questions (2)
If I only had half a brain
Weekend With Ger
Wash. D. C. and Sci-Fi Ch.
Acting Credits ???
FORKNI-L Digest - 30 May 1996 to 31 May 1996 - Special issue
GWD on Nick/LC, and LK (No Spoilers) (2)
If someone else wrote the FK script ...
Blood Money (2)
Typing/Formatting/Proofreading
First 2 season tapes
does anyone have information? (2)
does Knight spice up his food/blood with tobasco, garlic, parsley etc.?
Vampires and reading Thoughts
FK CD ID Card (2)
pushing the NK/LC faction? (6)
Dream in BB
YKYBWFKW
AC, are you out there?
How much is enough?
Nick Knight: The Video
Nick's loft
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Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 00:26:23 -0500
From: LAURA B WASKEY <KHHK71A@p.......>
Subject: Blooper "Last Knight"
Hi!
I had heard through the grapevine that copies of the
blooper script that Phil and Larry wrote were available for
a donation. Please tell me where to send the dough and I'm
there!<g> Thanks for the help. Now I'm off to fly the
friendly skies again. Cofee, tea? :)
Cousin Laura I
KHHK71A@p.......
Co-Pres Ben Bass Fan Club
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Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 21:59:56 -0700
From: Jackie <ejdjd@i.......>
Subject: Oh, G-d, here comes another
Yep, here's another You Know You've Been Thinking Abou Forever Knightt...
waaaaaay too long when you are reading over movie reviews and this comes
across your desk:
> ``The Addiction'' -- More vampires. This time it's Abel
>Fernandez' turn and he hatches a sombre, black and white account of a female
>bloodsucker who wants to be cured. Kathleen (Lili Taylor) is a New York
>college student who has trouble making her day classes after she's
>bitten by vampire Annabella Sciorra. Roaming the night looking to put
>the bite on other victims is not for her, so Kathleen turns to a
>``master'' vampire (Christopher Walken), who's been fasting for 40
>years, for help in finding a way back. 1995. 82 minutes. Polygram Home
>Video. Unrated.
Ok, here's a question - how would the show have looked if the part of Nick
Knight, vampire detective, had been played by a woman? Any ideas for a role
reversal edition?
i.e.
Nicole Knight.............Rene Russo
Donna Schanke.............Rosie O'Donnell
Lucy LaCroix..............Sharon Stone
Dr. Nathan Lambert........Bill Pullman [the guy who *gets* the girl in from
While you Were Sleeping & the guy who *loses* the girl in Sleepless in
Seattle....I think!:)]
Det. Troy Vedder..........Meg Ryan
John DuCharme.............Antonio Banderas
Jackie
Support your local Attorney....Send your kid to Medical School!
ejdjd@i.......
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Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 00:16:38 CDT
From: Le Phantom <jrarmstr@p.......>
Subject: Re: Nigel for Congress?
I'd buy Nigel running for Congress... Around here there are signs everywhere
proclaiming:
Lambert for Circuit Judge (!)
Now, were she running for County Coroner, I'd vote, but other than that... :)
Until next time, I'll be watching...
Cousin Erik (Le Phantom de L'Opera)
jrarmstr@b....... // http://bsc.edu/~jrarmstr/
"Stay out of the sun, keep away from sharp sticks, you'll live forever." NK
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Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 22:59:48 -0600
From: Lisa Marvin <wyllow@n.......>
Subject: Re: Name Questions
That was my impression, also. Felix was the vampire who liked raising
plants under artificial lights in his greenhouse. (I don't remember
him being an accomplice of Sean's, but more like a friend of Nick's.)
Felix used a little computer-like thing to get information about
Nick's money, and in doing so discovered that the account had been
emptied. Isn't that when Nick went after Sean?
Felix also advised Nick to raise plants as a pasttime, saying "Plants!
Plants are the answer!"
Lisa Marvin
wyllow@n.......
>I thought that Felix Twist was the vampire gardener who was taking
>care of Nick's money?
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Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 01:23:13 -0400
From: Stephanie Way <Biancaswan@a.......>
Subject: If I only had half a brain
re: Toni's post about the terminal stupid womans' question and Toni's
fantastic response. I'll reconstruct it since I lost the snipped portion.
" How do you do your work with half a hand?"
and her reply ' Obviously better than you do with half a brain." LOL!!! I
think think this is hysterical and the perfect reply to such arrogant
insensitivity. Cheers to you Antonia!!!!
SW " We are TPTB best nightmare."
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Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 23:16:54 -0700
From: Valery King <kingv@u.......>
Subject: Re: Name Questions
On Fri, 31 May 1996, Lisa Marvin wrote:
> That was my impression, also. Felix was the vampire who liked raising
> plants under artificial lights in his greenhouse. (I don't remember
> him being an accomplice of Sean's, but more like a friend of Nick's.)
Perhaps the confusion comes because the double role of the modern-day
scumbag/blackmailer and the flashback Nick's-partner-in-crime,
soon-to-be-toast sword-fighting cohort is uncredited (the parts are played
by Colm Feore, a wonderful Canadian character actor and a friend of Ger's
--they played the two Antipholuses (Antipholi?) in that Stratford video of
"The Boys from Syracuse" that Ger's fan club sold for charity a year or
two back).
This was the last episode filmed of the season (although NOT the last one
they showed), so I speculate that Feore did it as a favor to Ger (who was
also directing) for little or no pay when they ran out of money or time.
Bernhard Behrens, who played the elder duChamp, is very hightly regarded
and might cost quite a bit, so they might have blown their budget. And at
least in the States, if a union actor does a role for less than scale he
can often avoid union trouble if he doesn't have a credit. But this is
only speculation on my part, I don't have any certain knowledge in this
particular instance.
And yes, Feliks Twist *was* the computer-expert vampire in the
greenhouse. A wonderful character! I wish we could have seen him again.
--Valery
kingv@u.......
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Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 04:17:59 -0500
From: Bea Quindlen <ocaoin@e.......>
Subject: Re: Weekend With Ger
Sorry all, the Weekend with Ger is sold out.
It is run by his fan club and limited to members only, and only
100 members (out of 600) at that. There will be NO "at-the-door"
admissions/registrations.
If you wish information on the GWD Fan Club you can e-mail
the club president, Rosemary Shad (ROSORGE@a.......)
or me for information. Information is also available at:
http://assets.wharton.upenn.edu/~percy91/GWDFC.html
Quinn
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Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 04:27:43 -0400
From: Apache <lf@c.......>
Subject: Wash. D. C. and Sci-Fi Ch.
Calloo callay -- District Cablevision is picking up the SciFi
channel in a couple of weeks.
I can hardly remember what it's like to watch FK without Dionne
Warwick and 1-900-WAYLAME sex line ads. Wowee....
ap.
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Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 04:12:56 -0700
From: Ann-Lu Blewett <ann-lu@i.......>
Subject: Acting Credits ???
Hi All,
Is there a web site or something to get the acting credits/(resume ?)
of the FK cast or at least the main characters? ie: GWD & NB
Is this info only available from the fan clubs or do they not have it
either?
Reading the "Shrewerthing" info an interview with GWD said he did two
movies in between the ending of FK and Taming of the Shrew, does anyone
know what they were. Where they made for tv or theatrical(sp?)
release? When can we expect to see them?
Ann-Lu <ann-lu@i.......>
Cousinly McGregor of the UF...
"They're so noisy, but I love the free food!"...NB's favorite line...
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Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 10:58:55 -0500
From: TippiNB <Tippinb@i.......>
Subject: Re: FORKNI-L Digest - 30 May 1996 to 31 May 1996 - Special issue
Amy wrote:
>In other words, I believe that the initial sequence of BB I is a dream
>sequence, and I base this on the frequent use of that device in FK.
I believe it was a flashback that just happened to be taking place while he
was asleep. ;)
His other dream sequences are clearly outside reality. In NiQ, he dreams
that he's with Nat and LC is looking on. There is no precedent for this
dream. What I mean to say is, it's totally fabricated from his imagination.
(I shan't bring up HF since it's still under spoiler protection.)
But with his flashback/dream in BB1, it involves a *real* incident: being
aboard the Titanic. I have no reason to believe he didn't meet Claire in
that exact way. I have no reason to believe he didn't take a little drink
from her wrist. I mean, if he was gonna dream himself a blood drinking
scene, as fueled by guilt as he is, wouldn't he have gone for her neck?
That's why I think it's realistic.
I don't think he killed her though. I just think he took a sip, just like
she offered.
Wicked Cousin Tippi, dollar bill wrangler of the Thong Throng!
*Founding Member of the Unnamed Faction*Voyeur of the Menage LaCroix*
"Would that this thong were a less annoying undergarment." - Anon.
Wickedness Site! http://www.netcom.com/~tippinb/wicked.html
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Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 10:59:22 -0500
From: TippiNB <Tippinb@i.......>
Subject: Re: GWD on Nick/LC, and LK (No Spoilers)
Apache wrote, citing an interview w/ GWD:
> Thus Nicholas Knight is battling to become human while being
>forced to deal with his inhuman elements. Says the actor, "It's like the
>little boy in Dickens standing on the outside of the window looking in at
>the Christmas turkey, and he can't get inside."
Sounds like a fab proverb to me! "Humanity is like a Christmas turkey. We
may want it, hunger for it, but we sometimes just can't afford it."
More citing:
>women. In this season's opening episode, the evil mentor LaCroix had a
>drop of blood on his fingertip which he offered to Nicholas. The offer,
>and the contact between finger and mouth, went beyond just vampire
>buddies.
<Having a premature hot flash.> Could someone tell me the name of this
episode? Pleeeease? One of the good things about not having seen all the
eps is that it's almost like watching new ones! :)
Wicked Cousin Tippi, dollar bill wrangler of the Thong Throng!
*Founding Member of the Unnamed Faction*Voyeur of the Menage LaCroix*
"Would that this thong were a less annoying undergarment." - Anon.
Wickedness Site! http://www.netcom.com/~tippinb/wicked.html
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Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 12:18:37 -0500
From: Calliope <usleamys@u.......>
Subject: If someone else wrote the FK script ...
If the guys who wrote *Dark Shadows* wrote the FK script ... (shudder!)
... Nick would show up not as Nick Knight but as Nicholas DeBrabant,
claiming to be a long-lost cousin who - gosh! - looks just like the
original Nicholas DeBrabant. Then he'd run around biting everyone, whining
about his existence, and forcing Dr. Nat to work on a cure for "his
condition", while all the time lusting after Janette, who coincidentally
looks just like his original girlfriend some number of years ago (Hmm!
This sounds more and more like normal FK!). And Schanke would come back,
either as a ghost, or himself somehow projected years into the future, or
himself immortal but having lost his memory, or all three (they'd recycle
the characters and every now and then someone would say, "Gee, you look an
awful lot like our old pal Schanke! But he's dead right now ... or is
he??").
Finally back up with email ... damn these lists and the 7000 messages they
leave! Never ever go offline for four weeks in a row!
Cathy
usleamys@u.......
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Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 11:36:24 -0500
From: John & Donna Spert <jjs@i.......>
Subject: Re: Blood Money
On Fri, 31 May 1996, Cynthia Hoffman wrote:
> On Fri, 31 May 1996, John & Donna Spert wrote:
> > father had the money, which Sean has now inherited, why the necessity to
> > steal the DeBrabant money?
> The answer is simple: probate. In Canada, a will has to be probated
> before any money is transferred to the beneficiaries.
Thank you! That's a step toward determining how innocent Sean was. I
would think that a court would postpone drastic legal action against him
to pay his gambling debts, when money is clearly on the way. But he
didn't look bright enough to think of that. And there is the whole
blackmail aspect.
It's just the timing seems so close, and he never seemed outraged enough,
to convince me that he was innocent. A partners-in-crime deal, turning
into a doublecross against Sean, has at least some evidence on that show.
On the other hand, if anyone wants to claim he was dim-witted and of
shaky but not outright illegal morals, I could certainly see evidence of
that as well.
John
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Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 09:54:27 -0700
From: Cynthia Hoffman <choff@v.......>
Subject: Re: Blood Money
On Sat, 1 Jun 1996, John & Donna Spert wrote:
> Thank you! That's a step toward determining how innocent Sean was. I
> would think that a court would postpone drastic legal action against him
> to pay his gambling debts, when money is clearly on the way. But he
> didn't look bright enough to think of that.
Sean's gambling debts would not have been taken to court. There are only
three legal forms of gambling in Ontario. The first is buying lottery
tickets. The second is betting on horse-racing at the track. The third
is playing at the government-run casinos. Sean did none of these. He
was gambling in an illegal casino behind Paparazzi and was therefore at
the mercy of the blackmailer (Colm Feore's character -- sorry the name
dripped out of the holes in my occasionally sieve-like brain).
So, Sean had two choices: pay up or suffer the consequences. He chose to
pay up. Since he didn't have access to his father's fortune, that mean he
had to embezzle the funds. And what is easier to embezzle than a trust
fund that is being kept separate from all the other funds.
Jane and Cynthia
Jane Credland/janes@i.......
Cynthia Hoffman/choff@v.......
Raven ** IB ** MBDtK
We cater to the occasional fetishist
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Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 14:08:33 -0400
From: Bast Khemet <bast@c.......>
Subject: Re: Typing/Formatting/Proofreading
Sure, I'll help with the proofreading! Just let me know, ok?
Thanks,
--Bast
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Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 14:16:10 -0400
From: Bast Khemet <bast@c.......>
Subject: Re: First 2 season tapes
On Fri, 31 May 1996, Janette Z wrote:
on HIGHLA-L
There's a Highlander list? I think that I'm in just a little bit of
trouble. *grinning happily* Not that I mind. I mean, too much mail
from my lists isn't a *bad* thing. Can someone tell me if there's a web
page about the lists?
--Bast
*the girl with the sig in progress*
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Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 13:25:09 -0500
From: Deb Kroll <demona@e.......>
Subject: does anyone have information?
does anyone have the address/phone#, ect of this place in NY (downtown
presumably), that sells 8x10 fk photos? I KNOW the place exsists, but I can't
find the address. I need the address immediately since I leave for NY in 2
weeks.
thanks,
demona@e.......
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Demona@e....... -- CompUSA Technician
Gargoyles fan ** Forever Knight Fan
Fan of Red Dwarf and Mysterious Cities of Gold
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Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 15:17:04 -0500
From: "[M A Martin]" <mmartin@b.......>
Subject: Re: does anyone have information?
Deb asked:
> does anyone have the address/phone#, ect of this place in NY (downtown
> presumably), that sells 8x10 fk photos? I KNOW the place exsists, but I can't
> find the address.
I believe the place you are thinking about is Jerry Ohlinger's Movie
Materials Store. It is located on 14th St near 8th Ave (if memory serves)
in Manhattan. If I recall, the place has business hours that I can
certainly respect - like 2:00pm to 7:00pm. I don't know the phone number
but I probably still have one of the bags that has more specific
information (phone, hours, and exact street address).
I highly recommend visiting the place - I would call it a "real" NYC
experience. Where else would you expect to find hard-core sci fi nerds
(looking for pix of Patrick Stewart in some of his lesser-known roles)
fighting for counter space with lisping queens (looking at pix of 1940's
Hollywood femme fatales)? An experience not for the timid (but not all
that intimidating because the people who work there are exceedingly nice
toward the uninitiated).
I got a very cool pic of GWD and JK clowning around - it nicely
complements the "unholy trio" pic of Nick, LaCroix and Janette that some
of you may have downloaded from the ftp site (say thanks to Laurie for
scanning in my copy - got it at Jerry's, too!).
if anyone needs more details, email me,
Meg (mmartin@b.......)
"Failure is not an option. It is just a nagging possibility that
helps me stay focused." Yeah, right...
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Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 15:52:38 -0400
From: Joy Davis <Rjoi@a.......>
Subject: Re: does Knight spice up his food/blood with tobasco, garlic,
parsley etc.?
Hi all!
In response to the question of whether Nick spices up his blood...
I think the reason he drinks it cold (ick!), and not more closely heated to
body tem is his everpresent guilt over being a vampire. If he must drink
blood, well, he sure as heck isn't going to enjoy it!
More 'he's complicated' issues here than a maze!
enJOYing FK,
Cousin of the Knight~~~Unnamed Faction
All around crazy for FK!
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Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 16:01:43 -0400
From: Joy Davis <Rjoi@a.......>
Subject: Re: Vampires and reading Thoughts
In response to Marcia's comments on reading thoughts...
I know LaCroix can read Nick's thoughts--he mentions this in Unreality tv,
where LaCroix says: we never did get around to that lesson (shielding
thoughts).
I've also always believed that the Nightcrawler monologues are directed at
Nick--they always address something that Nick is facing. And he hits the
nail on the head often. I don't think this is just a ploy of the director to
link in the monologues with the show's plot. The bond between parent/child
in this show is very strong.
enJOYing FK
Cousin of the Knight~~~Unnamed Faction
All around crazy for FK
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Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 15:00:54 -0500
From: Margie Hammet <treeleaf@i.......>
Subject: Re: FK CD ID Card
>> > Nick's Identification Card ...is written as "314 Homocide."
>> "homo" part is short for "homogenized" ... reference to ... cows....
> Perhaps it's a comment on his and LC's relationship. (-;
> (Please don't anyone be offended....)
I am probably going to get in trouble again, but I have to say this. I don't
know if I'm offended by the above post or not. I'm not homosexual, and I
don't know if homosexuals would be offended by it or not. I _do_ think that
sexual attraction and love between people is one of the best things in the
world, maybe _the_ best thing in the world, and I don't care whether the
people involved are different sexes or the same sex.
In the case of Forever Knight, the parent-child and friendship aspects of
the relationship between Nick and LaCroix have been made explicit. Any
eroticism between them is based on undertones that some people see and on
interviews
with the actors. I want to see Forever Knight succeed, and I want to see it
get the respect it deserves. The danger I see in pushing a point of view
that sees the Nick and LaCroix relationship as a homeo-erotic one or in
giving the possibility of a homeo-erotic relationship priority over the
parent-child and friendship aspects of the relationship is that very
meaningful and poignant aspects of Forever Knight can be lost.
If Forever Knight does come back, I wouldn't want to see the way LaCroix
and Nick relate on screen to change, simply so that no one could possibly
see any erotic feeling there. That would be awful! I also don't want to
spoil anybody's fun. I just wish people would stop pushing this.
Margie (treeleaf@i.......)
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Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 16:15:56 -0500
From: TippiNB <Tippinb@i.......>
Subject: pushing the NK/LC faction?
Margie wrote:
>In the case of Forever Knight, the parent-child and friendship aspects of
>the relationship between Nick and LaCroix have been made explicit. Any
>eroticism between them is based on undertones that some people see and on
>interviews with the actors.
And any perception that Nick loves Nat is based on "undertones that some
people see and on interviews with the actors", as well. Which is not to say
that he does or doesn't. However, he never says point blank that he loves
her. All we have to go on is how he acts toward her, and what he says
toward her, and what any of the actors might say. But, for some odd reason,
people seem to have less of a problem with the Nick and Nat couples faction
than the Nick and LaCroix couples faction. Does including an erotic aspect
to the Nick and Nat relationship somehow undermine the friendship/colleague
aspect? Of course not. So why should including an erotic aspect to the
NK/LC relationship undermine the parent/child aspect? It doesn't.
>get the respect it deserves. The danger I see in pushing a point of view
>that sees the Nick and LaCroix relationship as a homeo-erotic one or in
>giving the possibility of a homeo-erotic relationship priority over the
>parent-child and friendship aspects of the relationship is that very
>meaningful and poignant aspects of Forever Knight can be lost.
Danger? How is there danger? There is a danger of driving into a ditch
when the roads are slick. There is a danger of getting mugged at an ATM at
night. How can discussing the possible aspects of a relationship be
dangerous? Is it that you think that homoeroticism in and of itself
nullifies anything "meaningful and poignant"? On the contrary, I think
*any* kind of love amplifies exactly those things - meaningfulness and
poignancy.
Homoeroticism no more eradicates the depth of any relationship than does
heteroticism - which is to say that neither does.
Who here is pushing a point of view? No one is saying that you *have* to
see things a certain way. Or at least I'm not. If people don't see the
sensual side of the relationship, then nothing anyone says or does is going
to change their minds. Right? No one is going to convert them. Those
people will go on seeing the relationship as they want, just as we will go
on seeing the relationship as we want. Some people see Nick and Nat as
friends, some as romantic cohorts. Neither side can convince the other to
see it differently. It's called diversity, and I think it's a grand thing.
The more opinions the better. Our opinions no more threaten your take on
the relationship than yours does ours.
> I just wish people would stop pushing this.
I'd really like to know who's pushing it. Me? I have *never* said "this is
the only way to see this relationship and if you don't see it that way, then
you are wrong." Most of the people who belong to the Unnamed Faction have
*always* belonged to the Unnamed Faction - they just didn't have a name for
it yet. No one had to push them into it. Just because we see things a
certain way does not mean we expect or want others to see it the same way.
I don't see how discussing the erotic aspect (which even *I* think is one of
the smaller aspects) of the NK/LC relationship can be construed as "pushing"
a POV anymore than discussing the erotic aspects of the Nick/Nat
relationship could be considering "pushing" a POV. It's just *discussion*
in both cases, period.
Wicked Cousin Tippi, dollar bill wrangler of the Thong Throng!
*Founding Member of the Unnamed Faction*Voyeur of the Menage LaCroix*
"Would that this thong were a less annoying undergarment." - Anon.
Wickedness Site! http://www.netcom.com/~tippinb/wicked.html
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Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 17:22:31 -0400
From: Joy Davis <Rjoi@a.......>
Subject: Re: pushing the NK/LC faction?
Hi all!
What a wonderful way to spend saturday afternoon--with FK!
In regards to some intolerance for a possible relationship, 'erotic kind',
between Nick & LaCroix...This ha been troubling me for some time so I'll put
my two cents worth in.
I've found the idea of a homo-erotic relationship much less alarming when
compared to murder and drinking blood.
Lets all get our priorities straight--I mean, if one will apply christian
values to a relationship between two men, does that also imply that vampires
as well are 'wrong'? Blood drinking is expressly forbidden in the bible.
And for the possible incest factor, well, they are not flesh relatives.
Bonded by blood, this goes outside the norm for any conventional morals to
be enforced. The very idea of a vampire existence goes into the fantasy
realm of imagination. Anything is possible...
enJOYing FK
Cousin of the Knight~~~Unnamed Faction
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Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 16:29:27 -0500
From: Carrie Krumtum <carriek@e.......>
Subject: Re: GWD on Nick/LC, and LK (No Spoilers)
WCT asked:
> >drop of blood on his fingertip which he offered to Nicholas. The
> >offer, and the contact between finger and mouth, went beyond just
> >vampire buddies.
> Could someone tell me the name of this episode? Pleeeease?
I don't remember LaCroix ever doing this. I think the scene in question
is from the second season opener Killer Instinct. In the flashback Nick
has blood on his lower lip from feeding. He and LaCroix have dialog
about the nature of their relationship. Nick, incidently, equates it
with slavery. LaCroix runs his finger across Nick's lip and removes the
blood and sucks his own finger.
The only scene of blood on a finger offered to Nick that I can recall is
the scene in the Raven with Nick and Janette from the first season. Nick
did not take the blood.
In the third season opener Black Buddah, LaCroix was not in the
flashbacks.
I don't know if I've answered your question or not. Just idle rambling.
Carrie, Proud Knightie
The Nurse is a hampster.
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Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 17:54:00 -0400
From: Suzanne Campagna <SuzeCamp@a.......>
Subject: Re: FK CD ID Card
You know, I really didn't even notice the spelling error because I keep
looking at the picture wondering does anyone have an ID that looks that
good?
I've had many ID pics taken in my lifetime and in none am I smiling.
Suze
Dark Knightie/Bunny.../UF
"I used to think life was unfair, but then I thought it would be far worse if
life were fair and all the bad things happened because we really deserved
them."Marcus-B5
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Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 14:57:34 -0700
From: Amy R. <akr@n.......>
Subject: Dream in BB
WC Tippi wrote:
> But with his flashback/dream in BB1, it involves a *real* incident: being
> aboard the Titanic. I have no reason to believe he didn't meet Claire in
> that exact way. I have no reason to believe he didn't take a little drink
> from her wrist.
:)
The scene from which Nick wakes up with blood sweat on his forehead has
Claire saying, "I deserve death... I am the Buddha," and Nick vamping out
and biting her *neck.* This is what I think was a dream sequence; this is
the part I think did not happen; this is the part that I believe to be
part guilt-induced dream and part premonition of what will happen to
Schanke and Cohen -- certainly Nick will take it that way. To the best
of my knowledge, no one is claiming that the *other* scene, the one where
he sips from her wrist, did not occur.
*** Amy, Lady of the Knight (akr@n.......) ***
"You revere all that is mortal, all that is human. If you really loved
her, you would never take that from her. You would rather see her die."
--- LC, in BMV
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Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 15:06:31 -0700
From: Angie <alasher@e.......>
Subject: Re: pushing the NK/LC faction?
At 05:22 PM 6/1/96 -0400, Joy Davis wrote:
>. The very idea of a vampire existence goes into the fantasy
>realm of imagination.
FANTASY???? You mean al this is about fiction??? <vbeg> I have been actively
searching for *real*
vampires since I was a child! I was brough up Catholic, and we were taught
by the church that these *evil*
creatures do indeed exist in the realm of Satan. Sheesh! I spent my last
vacation scouring the streets of
New Orleans at night, just to try to catch ONE glimpse of Lestat.
~~~~~~~~~~~Lasher~~~~~~~~~~~
~Bunny~Unnamed Faction~ MOO~
~~~~~~Cousins of the Knight~~~~~~
^^http://home.earthlink.net/~alasher^^
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Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 18:11:54 -0400
From: Joy Davis <Rjoi@a.......>
Subject: Re: pushing the NK/LC faction?
Fantasy, reality, whatever...I meant that with all the 'unproven' facts given
about vampires, to try to impose on them our judeo-christian values would be
impossibly impractical.
Didn't mean to step on ayone's toes for whom this is not just a tv show about
fictional characters!
enJOYing FK
Cousin of the Knight~~~Unnamed Faction
Joy
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Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 12:45:02 -1000
From: Sandy Martino <martino@m.......>
Subject: YKYBWFKW
You see a book titled "Pumping Irony: Working Out the Angst of
Lifetime" and you think, if Nick had writtine it, it would have been a
LOT longer...(or mayber shorter; he doesn't seem to have worked out much
of his angst, does he?)
You see a swooping, arial view of Toronto in a computer graphics
demonstration, and you think "WHEEEE...It's the vamp cam!"
..then you're confused, because it was a DAYLIGHT view.
You see a couple years-old AHA! CD, and you think that one of the scruffy
but handsome guys on the cover looks like Nick in a flashback. I also
saw a preview for the new disney Hunchback flick, and swore the captain
of the guard looked a bit like GWD...I think I'm having withdrawals.
(And I'm not even focused on GWD...I like the show and all the characters...)
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Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 12:47:50 -1000
From: Sandy Martino <martino@m.......>
Subject: AC, are you out there?
Sorry to send this to all of you. I'm looking for a fellow Hawaii FKer,
AC. address was CCARAANG@ something or other...I need to contact this
person, quickly...and my hard drive crashed. Lost the address and all my
unread list stuff.
Bye the way...if anyone kept my musings about FK, as written by
the Doctor Who bunch, could you send me a copy? I lost that, too.
As we say in Hawaii, 'Tanks, eh brah?
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Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 19:01:54 -0400
From: Bast Khemet <bast@c.......>
Subject: Re: pushing the NK/LC faction?
On Sat, 1 Jun 1996, Joy Davis wrote:
> In regards to some intolerance for a possible relationship, 'erotic kind',
> between Nick & LaCroix...
Honestly, I couldn't see it at first, but now that I think about it, it's
definitely possible.
> And for the possible incest factor, well, they are not flesh relatives.
Thank you, Joy! After all, Nick and Jeanette are sister and brother, of
a sort, but no one seems to have a problem with the two of them having a
sexual/erotic relationship. Why, then, should there be a problem with
Nick and LaCroix having a sexual/erotic relationship!
Anyway, I'd like to ask a question really quickly...are there any other
pagans on the list? A lot of the discussion is from a Christian
viewpoint, and while there's nothing wrong with that, <facetious> I just
wondered if anyone else wanted to see Natalie run off and join a coven while
Nick is busy angsting? </facetious>
Oooh, maybe we should start a new faction? *giggle*
--Bast
*yeah, still working on a sig*
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Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 18:49:05 -0500
From: "J.S. Levin/Stormsinger" <wabbit@e.......>
Subject: Re: How much is enough?
>At 12:58 AM 5/31/96 -0400, Serena wrote:
>><snip>how much and how often does a vampire need to
>>eat - er, drink? Does it vary by the individual? Was it ever made clear?
It's never really been clear. Seems to be very individual, but I'd say
generally it's more than the Chelsea Quinn Yarbro "wineglass every few days"
but probably less than the Anne Rice "one kill or more a night". From the
way Vachon chugs it (and Nick, too, for that matter), I'll bet they go
through a couple of bottles (say, about a quart) a night. And who *knows*
how much Uncle manages to put away delicately sipping glass after glass...
of course, we are talking bottled as opposed to fresh anyway, which *might*
make a difference.
Geez, the *things* we think about discussing!!<G>
Storm (Vaquera, Scrapper, Gangrel)
wabbit@e....... (J.S.Levin/Stormsinger)
Their canon met my imagination and was outgunned.
If you practice being fictional, you discover that "characters"
are as real as people with bodies and heartbeats...
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Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 18:49:06 -0500
From: "J.S. Levin/Stormsinger" <wabbit@e.......>
Subject: Re: Nick Knight: The Video
If I am not mistaken, both the physical appearance and other special effects
of the 1989 Nick Knight pilot were done to suggest some relation to "The
Lost Boys" movie, which came out in 1985, I believe. The facial effects
were almost identical, as was the flying. Also, in the Nick Knight pilot,
there's a lovely little throwaway -- when Nick first comes into the Raven,
he gets an "oh, yeah, you," nod from a young blond vampire who looks an
*awful* lot like a certain David from said movie. Hee hee.
Storm (Vaquera, Scrapper, Gangrel)
wabbit@e....... (J.S.Levin/Stormsinger)
Their canon met my imagination and was outgunned.
If you practice being fictional, you discover that "characters"
are as real as people with bodies and heartbeats...
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Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 20:24:16 -0500
From: Carrie Krumtum <carriek@e.......>
Subject: Nick's loft
Hi all. Quick question regarding Nick's loft. In the first season ep IWR
the piano is located near the stairs, in the third season it is located
near the elevator door. Is there anywhere else you guys can remember it
being. One other thing, the loft's address is 101 Gateway, yes?
Thanks in advance
:)=
--
Carrie, Proud Knightie
The Nurse is a hampster
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Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 20:34:24 -0500
From: "J.S. Levin/Stormsinger" <wabbit@e.......>
Subject: Re: pushing the NK/LC faction?
At 03:06 PM 06/01/1996 -0700, Lasher wrote:
><vbeg> I have been actively searching for *real* vampires since I was a child!
Uh, embarrassed confession: me, too. Don't tell me they don't exist -- I
went looking for witches while I was at it, and I'll bet you can guess
*that* didn't end in failure <G>!
> Sheesh! I spent my last vacation scouring the streets of
>New Orleans at night, just to try to catch ONE glimpse of Lestat.
Gee, Lasher, maybe he was on Night Island that week??
Storm (Vaquera, Scrapper, Gangrel)
wabbit@e....... (J.S.Levin/Stormsinger)
Their canon met my imagination and was outgunned.
If you practice being fictional, you discover that "characters"
are as real as people with bodies and heartbeats...
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