File: "FORKNI-L LOG9606A" Part 3 TOPICS: Cousin Pins (was: Light Cousin Symbol Exams (2) YKYBWTMFK Songs not on FK CD? %@*&%Cable (3) That Voodoo Black Magic FORKNI-L Digest - 1 Jun 1996 to 2 Jun 1996 - Special i (2) LK Blooper Script Devil's advocate ykibwtfkutlw pushing the NK/LC faction? (2) Putting out the Word Vampires, religion and incest (was FORKNI digest,etc) Vampires & incest Off-list fan phoned (2) Last Act and DoN Tell it to TPTB gifs where? & Urs fanfic Fan Fic Sunset Stories LaCroix's Personality (2) To Light Cousin, or not to LC NK/LC Stories Bad Blood - a question... total confusion San Francisco in October? Voodoo Black Magic Bye Bye..... ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 16:00:33 -0500 From: Margie Hammet <treeleaf@i.......> Subject: Re: Cousin Pins (was: Light Cousin Symbol) At 12:19 PM 6/2/96 -0500, J.S. Levin/Stormsinger wrote: >As an alternative, how about LaCroix's *sword pin* I keep reading about LaCroix's sword pin. What is it? Margie (treeleaf@i.......) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 07:37:15 +1000 From: MARY YOUNG <md.young@s.......> Subject: Exams Hi i am about to go into an anatomy exam could any natpackers or Carrie Krumtum please email me off list to help also I dont think boiled blood is such a good idea Blown up blood cells would loose their flavour from Janettes very stressed Fangs Mary md.young@s....... ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 08:06:29 +1000 From: MARY YOUNG <md.young@s.......> Subject: YKYBWTMFK Hi Im sorry but i have to do another one YKYBWTMFK when..... You are looking round a bookstore and you see about 50 books written by "Janette" the surname was wrong but who knows it could have been her. and when You see a persons name coe up on the news as Nichola Knight i am not kidding I really saw it!!! any how i am to stressed to write any more but email me off list if you want Wish me luck!! from Janettes Stressed Fangs Mary md.young@s....... ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 15:55:21 -0700 From: James Smith <jsmith@i.......> Subject: Songs not on FK CD? I was just watching "For I Have Sinned" and it reminded me that when I got my FK CD I began to wonder what happened to the pulsing, dark music that was played in the Raven in that episode. There seem to be at least two songs played in the Raven in that episode that did not show up on the CD! Does anyone know if these were Fred Mollin's creations and they just didn't feel like putting them on the CD? Any comments? James Smith jsmith@i....... ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 15:56:59 -0700 From: Abby <albrecht@s.......> Subject: Re: %@*&%Cable Ok, LA Continental Cablevision people... remember, if you sweettalk the operators you can get Sci-Fi for $2. On the other hand, if you are rude or if they are idiots (more likely ;) they will claim you can't do that. I've had it for over a year, with cancellation breaks for vacation... It's funny to be paying bills only to come up with a $2 charge. <g> obfk, I still miss Schanke! abby -- Mercenary of the Knight albrecht@c....... Down the hall lThe first Merc Knightie eponymous2@a....... Turn right! lDDEB3, Duchovniks, NLEB, and more http://www-scf.usc.edu/~albrecht ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 17:44:51 -0700 From: Denise Underwood <ithildin@m.......> Subject: That Voodoo Black Magic This question came up on #foreverknight last night. No one knew the answer, so I'm throwing it out to the list in hopes that one of you knowledgeable folks might know. Who performed the song "That Voodoo Black Magic" and when was the song originally released? Inquiring minds want to know! Thanks!! BTW, this is a new mail program, so hope this comes out OK. Maybe this will be the one that will let me participate in loopdom! Denise ~The Cousinly Ravenette~ ~TEDT~ ~Killer Bunny of the Clan McGregor~ "That Rabbit has a viscous streak a mile wide!It's a killer!" Tim,Enchanter ithildin@m....... ** Ask me about Forever Knight chat every evening on IRC EFNet!! ** ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 20:48:03 -0400 From: "Donna G. Albrecht" <WriterDGA@a.......> Subject: Re: FORKNI-L Digest - 1 Jun 1996 to 2 Jun 1996 - Special i In a message dated 96-06-02 13:21:30 EDT, you write: Tippi said: > But, for some odd reason, people seem to have less of a problem with the > Nick and Nat couples faction than the Nick and LaCroix couples faction. > Does including an erotic aspect to the Nick and Nat relationship somehow > undermine the friendship/colleague aspect? Of course people have less of a problem with Nick and Nat as a couple. They are over the age of consent and have expressed outwardly an interest in a more romantic relationship in many episodes including NiQ. They also fit the traditional romantic model of a male/female bonding. In this case the erotic aspect does not undermine the friendship/colleague aspect. Just ask anyone who has been involved in an office romance. >Of course not. So why should including an erotic aspect to the >NK/LC relationship undermine the parent/child aspect? It doesn't. There are some (including me) who are not comfortable with the incestuous aspect of what you are promoting. In the show, I have seen a strong father/son and friend/friend bond between Nick and LC, but I think that encouraging people to see an "erotic aspect" to the parent/child relationship is a bit much. OTOH, if Nick had shown a romantic interest in Vachon, that would have been different because incest would not have been implied. Donna ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 21:03:32 -0400 From: Lisa Prince <Moonlight@g.......> Subject: LK Blooper Script Hey, Hey All :) Just sending out a little reminder that the Last Knight Blooper Script, specially signed for us (FORKNI-L) by Mr. Nigel Bennett himself, is available for a $5.00 donation to one of the following charities: Casey House Pediatric AIDS Foundation Children's Hospital Foundation If you'd like to get a copy of the blooper script, send a check for at least $5.00 made out to one of the charities listed above. You should also include the cost of return postage. In the U.S., return postage is $1.01. You can either send a check for that amount made out to Lisa Prince or send 4 postage stamps. If at all possible, please send the stamps. Thanks :) International note on postage: Postage to Germany is $2.16; Postage to Australia is $2.65; and Postage to Canada is $1.11. If you live in a country other than those listed above and would like to get a copy of the blooper script, please contact me via private e-mail and I'll get the postage rate for your country. The address to send your charity donation and stamps is: Lisa Prince 000 Xxxxxxxxxxx Xxxxxx, Xxxxx 000 Xxxxxxx, XX 00000-0000 If anyone has any questions, please feel free to contact me via private e-mail :) Lisa The Emoticon Addict ;) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 21:44:20 -0400 From: esalmas <esalmas@g.......> Subject: Re: %@*&%Cable I just wanted to give everyone some insight into the situation with cable companies and how the decison is made to add channels. A corporate contract is signed with the network often based on surveys of customers (or feed back in the form of letters and phone calls) in all the systems in an MSO (Multiple System Operator) such as Continental, TCI, Time Warner, etc. There is a lot of politics involved -- as well as an individual system's channel capacity. For instance, since Sci-Fi channel is part of USA Networks -- a cable company that is carrying USA may be able to cut a better deal (per subscriber fee to be paid to the network) than one that doesn't. Also, if USA is carried on a tier (you have to pay extra, even though it is a basic channel) the network may use that as leverage with the system that wants Sci-Fi to get them to move USA back to the basic lineup. You may, end up with Sci-Fi on a tier or as part of an a la carte menu for which you pay extra since many deem it a specialty channel. Also, there is the problem of channel capacity in many areas. My system was almost 30 years old and had only 36 channels while the areas around me were newer builds, have more channels, were addressable, etc. Century just finished the rebuild and as of a few months ago I finally have Sci-Fi. Other Century systems were already carrying it because there was a contract to do so as soon as channel space was available. All I can advise is to continue doing what you're all doing -- write and call the local company and drop a note to the corporate office as well to find out if they have a contract with Sci-Fi. It's not up to the local system if corporate doesn't have an agreement with USA Networks. Hope this helps clarify some of the issues. I have about 15 years experience in the industry as both a journalist and on the operator side. Eileen Salmas esalmas@g....... "The truth is out there. It's just not in my jurisdiction." ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 21:44:44 -0400 From: esalmas <esalmas@g.......> Subject: Re: Devil's advocate > Why should we- who have no corporate power- continue to fight for a cancelled > show Two words -- STAR TREK Eileen Salmas esalmas@g....... "The truth is out there. It's just not in my jurisdiction." ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 21:07:10 -0500 From: Lori <lori19@h.......> Subject: ykibwtfkutlw You know I've been watching the FK universe too long when... I am at a Major League Soccer game and just a few seats away from me is a gentleman that looks an awful lot like Geraint Wyn Davies. (he really did-what was he doing in Kansas City?) As the game goes on and my favorite player has not been put in yet, I wonder if Nick will whammy the coach into substituting him in for me. Lori, still thinking I should've asked him.... Danger: Vampire in Trunk Forever Knight http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html St. Louis Ambush and Kansas City Wiz fanatic Lori19@s....... ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 22:33:03 -0400 From: Serena Osinski <sosinski@i.......> Subject: Re: pushing the NK/LC faction? Joy Davis wrote: >I've found the idea of a homo-erotic relationship much less alarming when >compared to murder and drinking blood. Right on! There have been, let's face it, lots of things going on in the scripts which have been, let us say, less than kosher. Not necessarily even moral things - I mean just plain old unlikely medical- or police-procedural goings on. But what I have to end up saying to myself is "What, I'll buy the idea that downtown Toronto is positively CRAWLING with vampires, and I'm okay with that, but not that, say, somebody wrote a virtual reality game which can produce tactile sensation in areas not actually wired up or connected to the game in any way?" This is not to belittle the scriptwriters or cast a patronizing eye on the program in any way. I think it's a sign of the real strength of the writing that a show with such a fantastic basic premise can so thoroghly instill in us that willing suspension of disbelief, that when confronted with a potential conundrum in areas not directly related to the vampire aspects of the plot, *that's* what is seen as jolting, not the fact that the main characters are centuries-old serial killers. And yes, I do think there is a strong homoerotic undercurrent in the relationship between Nick and LaCroix. And it doesn't bother me in the slightest. Serena ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 22:36:37 -0400 From: Joy Davis <Rjoi@a.......> Subject: Re: FORKNI-L Digest - 1 Jun 1996 to 2 Jun 1996 - Special i Hi all! On 6/2 Donna Albrecht wrote that the idea of an erotic relationship between Nick & LaCroix is incestuous. I strongly disagree, on the premise that these are VAMPIRES!! This is not a mortal, human father/son relationship. If so, I, too, would have moral objections. Nick & LC are in no way related by human blood ties!! By the way, with that kind of logic, Jannette and Nick would also be taboo. But, what about the murder & drinking blood aspects? If incest is wrong, which I think it is, than to hold true to our judeo-christian values here (where that taboo comes from), drinking blood is an abomination and thou shalt not kill is one of the Ten Commandments. Given a choice, I think murder is alot worse than two vampires expressing love, when they are not related by human blood. I think LC with Divia would be wrong, because she was his mortal daughter. That's my two cents worth.. enJOYing the sun! (spring is finally here in Oregon!) Joy Cousin of the Knight~~Unnamed Faction & all around crazy for FK! ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 22:44:30 -0400 From: "Lisa P." <LadysAVamp@a.......> Subject: Re: Putting out the Word The cousin in me is coming to the surface when I think about the reaction of nuns to vampires. <wicked grin> It must be some leftover residual from my catholic school days. Lisa P. *************************************************************************** Only one thing is truly permanent...Forever Knight Cousinly Knightie w/NatPacker tendencies <I do so hate to limit myself> LadysAVamp@a....... -- "Hey, who you calling a lady!?!" oboyyme@t....... -- <Lacroix's unheard thoughts at end of LK> ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 21:47:08 -0500 From: D Echelbarger <gryphon@e.......> Subject: Re: Vampires, religion and incest (was FORKNI digest,etc) On Sun, 2 Jun 1996, Joy Davis <Rjoi@a.......> wrote: > If incest is wrong, which I think it is, than to hold true to our >judeo-christian values here (where that taboo comes from) Sorry, Joy, but a lot of religious/ethical systems *besides* the Judeo-Christian one abhor incest. It's one of the few near-universal taboos-- because there are sound *biological* reasons (for mortals) why it's a BAD idea! Now, whether it's a bad idea for *vampires* is another whole topic. IMHO, though, Nick is far too obviously still a product of his 13th century Catholic upbringing, and because of that it's very unlikely he'd view the possibility of a homosexual relationship with *anyone* as anything but horrifying. But that's just my $.02 on *Nick's* viewpoint, and in no way reflects my own views on same-sex relationships. :) Diane E # D Echelbarger gryphon@e....... # # WWW HomePage: http://www.execpc.com/~echelbar/ # # "Death cannot stop True Love" Wesley, _Princess Bride_ # ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 22:56:11 -0400 From: Joy Davis <Rjoi@a.......> Subject: Re: Vampires & incest Ok, I'll concede other religions have taboos against incest. The main point I was trying to make is that there are no straight right or wrong answers for the sexual relationships between vampires, unless one can tell me what religion they are and where the code of rules are. But, I want authenticity from a real vampire. Joy Cousin of the Knight Member of the UF (and proud of it!) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 21:36:49 PDT From: Sherri Lynn Godsey <us011164@p.......> Subject: Off-list fan phoned Hi guys. Haven't posted in a while; traveling, and when time permits I've been reading the inundation of messages on Forkn-L and the spoiler list. Some good stuff! I've been off-line so long, I posted this message to listserv instead of the list! So I'll try again... I had a really interesting phone call a little while ago from an off-line fan who lives in Elmhearst, Illinois. Her name is Carole Foncani. Since she didn't have computer access, she didn't know the state of the show, and when she watched Last Knight and realized they were ending the show, she was really upset. She called Paragon and Tri-Star asking what's going on. I don't remember which one she said she actually got to talk to, but the guy who answered knew she was calling about Forever Knight before she even said what she was calling for. He said they had received a *lot* of calls protesting the cancellation. Sounds to me like fans who didn't have our access to information are finally coming into the knowledge, and they don't like it! There must be a whole new swell of folks just finding out, and they're calling! The fellow made a comment about some kind of fan picketing that occurred in Europe (Germany?) asking to have the show back. Has anyone else heard of such a thing? He didn't give Carole any details, just mentioned it in passing. Certainly perked *my* ears up. Carole also said that when she asked why the show had been cancelled, Tri-Star said it wasn't their fault, and that she should call her local syndicator. Tut, Tut Tri-Star! Liar, liar, pants on fire! The more I hear about those people, the more I have to shake my head in wonder at the river of audacity they float in! Carole would like to link up with some on-line folks in her area so she can "get involved". I've downloaded info from Jami's webpage and will send that on so she'll have the write-to info. If Chicago area folks would e-mail me off-list, I'll supply her address and phone number (have her permission to do so) and some of you can contact her. Its cool to know we're continuing to pick up off-line support. She does get the Sci-Fi channel and is grateful to know the reruns will show there. How did she find *me*? Picked up my name and city from the letter I wrote that was printed in the Sci-Fi magazine (I don't even remember which one, I didn't get a copy), then she called information and voila-- got me. Good thing I'm not unlisted (in more ways than one). Hearing that Tri-Star and Paragon are getting some recent calls made my day. Nice to know the fight continues and the ranks swell... **Sherri Lynn Godsey, Founding Member SFKS. "Think where man's glory most begins and ends, and say my glory was I had such friends" in Forever Knight. "Independence lies as much in not being led as in not being driven..." ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 20:23:08 -0700 From: Amy R. <akr@n.......> Subject: Last Act and DoN I just saw "Last Act" for the first time. Lucky are we, the newbie hordes who still have such marvelous episodes in front of us! The use of Erica's ghost fascinated me, and I kept wondering why LA had not been cited more during the discussion of DoN. With DoN, many people questioned the reality of the ghosts, and some remarked on them as an addition to the FK universe. Wasn't the reality of ghosts (in FK) established with LA, or has that also been taken as a projection of Nick's guilt-ridden subconscious? It seemed to me that Nick, at least, absolutely accepted the presence of Erica's ghost. And the way his physical movements in response to the ghost remained after her disappearance also seemed indicative of her reality. And Nick and Erica's relationship made me wonder how many vampire couples we've seen. Have there been any, other than Nick and Janette in PotM, who really committed to each other over a long period? LA was truly a joy to watch. Nick is so dynamic, the cop plot was a legitimate mystery, the correct moral is triumphantly reached, and there is such a sense of fun in so many of the interactions! What happened to that? (anyone who answers this question with the fact that LC was not in the episode will be turned over to the tender mercies of the True Cousins....<g>) *** Amy, Lady of the Knight (akr@n.......) *** ** Knightie *** Light Cousin *** Fleur-Booster ** ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 23:44:01 -0400 From: Stephanie Way <Biancaswan@a.......> Subject: Tell it to TPTB Well I'm glad there was some reaction to my post about Fk and a futile effort. (it's not , so calm down) . That was the intention of my message. HOWEVER don't tell me or anyone else on this list. Write to SONY, Tri-Star, USA Network and tell THEM that you are a viable consumer etc. Everytime a newbie comes on the board e-mail them the appropriate addresses and let them tell TPTB who they are and theat they love FK and will watch any further production of it etc. Get the media involved. They are a bit cynical but keep at it. Offer an information package( e-mail or otherwise) to anyone who has an interest in the show and send it to the media. Especially the print media (they hate TV and vice versa). The survey is a good start but the THEY must never forget the force of FK watchers. Carry on. SW " Kill your TV or teach it a new trick" ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 01:07:41 -0300 From: "l.d. steele" <aa300@f.......> Subject: gifs where? & Urs fanfic Hello everyone! I using/abusing my power as the newletter editor of the local SF&F club to do up a "memorial" issue that's mostly FK, and I NEED PICTURES!!! <g> I've scoured the following sites: ftp.cac.psu.edu http://www.aracnet.com/~dmd/fkpics.html <- Thanks for starting that. :) I've managed to get "decent" pics of Nick, LC, Janette and Vachon. A Semi-decent one of Natalie (w. Nick). What I <need> are good pictures of Tracy, Schanke and (if possible) Urs. I know Tracy and Urs aren't loved by all fans, but <I> like them, and I'd like to include them in my little picture page. Any help, pointers, or attached files would be greatly appreciated. If you want to send me <large> attached files, warn me first. I don't have unlimited disk space. :) -------------------------------- Re: Urs fanfic There's been a very interesting (and ongoing) discussion going on the fkspoilr list about Urs and LaCroix. Someone asked if anyone's writing serious Urs fanfic. Yes. It's in the works. I've always liked the character, and was disappointed when they didn't do anything after HofD. I know a couple other people are also writing something up, and I look forward to seeing it. :) I'd mention more, but then I'd have to take it to the fkspoilr list. <g> Dawn l.d.steele h36a@u....... <- <please!> send all picture email/attachments here. :) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 00:40:56 -0400 From: Mei Wa Kwong <kwongm@g.......> Subject: Fan Fic Sorry if I'm posting this in the wrong place. Does anyone know if there are more stories written by Christine Hunt? I've found four: Consequences, The Bargain, One Day in the Sun, and The Other side of Evil. It was my impression that there is at least one other story out there that's a follow-up to One Day in the Sun. Last time I looked in the FTP site, there weren't any other ones besides these four so if anyone has other stories, please e-mail me privately. Thanks! ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 22:01:47 -0600 From: Lisa Marvin <wyllow@n.......> Subject: Re: Off-list fan phoned Sherri Lynn Godsey wrote: >> she watched Last Knight and realized they were ending the show, she >was really upset. She called Paragon and Tri-Star asking what's >going on. The guy who answered knew she was calling about Forever >Knight before she even said what she was calling for. He said they >had received a *lot* of calls protesting the cancellation. Carole >also said that when she asked why the show had been cancelled, >Tri-Star said it wasn't their fault, Here's another thing that kills me. I obtained a copy of the August 1996 Starlog Yearbook, which has interviews with many actors from various SciFi/action-type shows, including: The X-Files, Hercules, Xena:Warrior Princess, Babylon 5, Timecop, as well as several action movies that have been released recently. Among these are 2 interviews from Forever Knight, one with Ger and the other with Catherine Disher. (Neither interview article mentions anything about the show's cancellation.) It was great to have the FK interviews right in there with the rest of them, but it bugged me that FK is good enough to be included in a magazine with the rest of them, but not good enough to continue into a 4th season. What's wrong with this picture? Just my $.02 worth. Lisa Marvin wyllow@n....... I wish there were a knob on the T.V. to turn up the intelligence. There's a knob called "brightness", but that doesn't work. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 21:46:23 -2055 From: "L. Katherine Queen" <lqueen@p.......> Subject: Re: Sunset Stories Marcia Tucker writes: >Er, how about a Nick and Janette walking into the sunset together story? ;D > >:::runniing madly from N&Npackers::: Sorry, Janette had her chance and blew it. Yes, she actually threw him away. Hard to believe. What was her excuse. Oh yes, she couldn't handle the depth of his affection for her. That does sound rough. <vbg!> Sorry you immortal beloveds out there, just my humble 2 cents worth. Katherine, devoted to the Knight lqueen@p....... Katherine Queen lqueen@p....... ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 02:45:13 -0400 From: Angie <alasher@e.......> Subject: Re: %@*&%Cable >Ok, LA Continental Cablevision people... remember, if you sweettalk the >operators you can get Sci-Fi for $2. On the other hand, if you are rude or >if they are idiots (more likely ;) they will claim you can't do that. Is that the same Continental Cable in Hollywood??? ~~~~~~~~~~~Lasher~~~~~~~~~~~ ~Bunny~Unnamed Faction~ MOO~ ~~~~~~Cousins of the Knight~~~~~~ ^^http://home.earthlink.net/~alasher^^ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 23:53:17 -0700 From: Torrey <neva@i.......> Subject: Re: LaCroix's Personality Cousin J writes: >I would appreciate any >input from anyone out there as to what they think are some things that LC >would never, ever do 1. Wear Pink 2. Get a Tan 3. Pull a cork out of a bottle with his teeth and spit it across the room. 4. Lap dance 5. Drink grape Cool-Aid 6. Eat Oatmeal 7. Laugh until milk spurted from his nose 8. collect lint 9. Call 1-800-collect 10. Get a flu shot { in a thong} "Dona" Torrey <neva@i.......> \/(|(|L|(/_|`(| | "Freedom rings where opinions clash" Adlai Stevenson ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 01:51:55 -0600 From: Elizabeth R Milford <emilford@u.......> Subject: Re: LaCroix's Personality Cousin J asked: > >I would appreciate any > input from anyone out there as to what they think are some things that LC > >would never, ever do To which Torrey replied with a wonderful list that included: > 4. Lap dance Not even on amateur night? <darn!> :> (Hey, he was the one who brought stripping back to the Raven, wasn't he?) Okay, this could be fun, so... more things Uncle would never do: 11. Wear plaid. 12. Stutter. 13. Square dance, Break dance or do the bunny hop. 14. Chew bubble gum. 15. Attend a Holloween Party dressed as Larry, Moe or Curley. Now, what about a list of things he does do, but would never admit to and would *kill* anyone who actually caught him doing them, like: 1. Dress up like a clown and visit the childrens ward of local hospitals. <Hey, I never said why he did it - could be guilt, could be a taste for veal...> 2. Join the John Wayne fan club. Ok, now that the Cousin's are after me with flaming crosses I guess I better run... Elizabeth - Newly of a cousinly persusion, but probably out on her fanny now. __________________________________________________________________________ Elizabeth R. Milford emilford@u....... GADDAB When the goddess was handing out spelling genes I was getting seconds in the "Bugs are Cool" line, thus the sorry state of affairs you had to witness above. Don't even ask where I was when she handed out grammar genes! ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 04:24:47 -0400 From: Diane Shea <KerrRaven@a.......> Subject: To Light Cousin, or not to LC Sifting through the digests... Lady Amy writes; >>We don't like the "let's get naked" LC any more than anyone else. We loathe him, too.<< I'm one of those truly strange Cousins who just happens to like the "...by getting NAKED!" LC. And yes, those are the actual words he spoke, although I might have liked it even better had it been "Let's get naked!" But poor Uncle never does like to get *really* involved in anything. Too bad. Anyway, as a third season newbie and obsessive Cousin, I accept LaCroix in ALL forms. After nearly 2000 years of life I think he should be allowed a little diversity of attitude. It makes him complex beyond compare. >>Fever strays onto Light Cousinly ground<< Not to actually argue with you (because I rather like the Light Cousins,) but I think LC's actions at the end of Fever kind of nullify any embracing of humanity type feelings he might have shown. No one who feels the urge to redeem himself in the eyes of a kind higher power is going to ruthlessly confront, terrorize, condemn, and viciously kill someone who he's never met, even if the guy *inadvertently* caused his race some major problems. And if there is any more discussion of this, I won't be around to read it, or at least not for two weeks. As of this morning my modem is off, and in a few days I'll be thinking of you all from one of the Greek islands. But if my mailbox does it's duty, I will have much to read when I get back. Keep posting, keep thinking, it's more than I'll be doing. --Cousin Diane Eternal Seducer/Closet Unnamed ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 07:49:09 EDT From: Michael J Park <73773.3032@c.......> Subject: NK/LC Stories Hi all! Could you please email to me any stories you might have that have a good NK/LC relationship. Stories like--James Kythe Walkswithwind's Good Knight, Nicholas or One Pretty Moment. I would also be interested in any NK/LC slash stories that some of you might have written. I do not care how old or new the stories are. If you do not want to email them to me and they are avail. at your web site, please let me know what that web site it. Also, if you are not sure if I already have your story (as I made this request once before--but it was on the JADFE list and did get a few respones), please email me the name of your story(ies) and I will let you know if I already have it. Thanks in advance everyone. Debbie Park / 73773.3032@c....... Unnamed / Dark Knightie / Cousin / Cousin of the Knight ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 07:00:33 -0500 From: Carrie Krumtum <carriek@e.......> Subject: Re: Exams Hi Mary, What's up? -- Carrie, Proud Knightie The Nurse is a hampster ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 07:05:26 -0500 From: Carrie Krumtum <carriek@e.......> Subject: Re: Bad Blood - a question... Kathy L wrote: > Could somebody who has seen 'Bad Blood'tell me the name of the English > inspector that was going after Jack the Ripper in this episode? He's Irish, not English and his name is Liam O'Neal. -- Carrie, Proud Knightie The Nurse is a hampster ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 08:44:45 -0400 From: Tammy Stephanie Davis <tsd@u.......> Subject: Re: pushing the NK/LC faction? On Sun, 2 Jun 1996, Serena Osinski wrote: > Joy Davis wrote: > >I've found the idea of a homo-erotic relationship much less alarming when > >compared to murder and drinking blood. How true. Let's face it, several of the main characters of Forever Knight are mass murders. It's Nick's struggle to rise above that that makes the show worthwhile and very watchable ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 08:17:56 -0500 From: TippiNB <Tippinb@i.......> Subject: total confusion Okay now I'm totally confused... Donna wrote: >There are some (including me) who are not comfortable with the incestuous >aspect of what you are promoting. First off, I am not *promoting* anything. A person can have a point of view without proselytizing. Second, if incest is really the problem then why doesn't anyone seem to have a problem with Nick and Janette's relationship? They're brother and sister, if you think about it in the same way. It's unfortunate that some people are uncomfortable with one tiny aspect of the Unnamed Faction. That will not, however, stop me or anyone from discussing it until Listmommy says otherwise. I am uncomfortable with a lot of things discussed on this list but you will *never* see me suggest that it not be discussed. Unless, of course, it is directly harmful or personally derogatory to the actors or listmembers. See my sig. It's something I've believed all my life. Wicked Cousin Tippi (Tippinb@i.......) "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Voltaire ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 09:42:16 EST From: Ronni Katz <ronnik@c.......> Subject: San Francisco in October? Forgive my ignorance for this one guys... Is there an FK Con in San Francisco in October???? If so, when and where??? If I can scrape up the $, I'd *love* to go! I have friends I could visit while I'm there (they live in Fremont) Ron the Enforcer RonniK@e....... ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 10:10:36 EDT From: Lisa McDavid <D020214@v.......> Subject: Voodoo Black Magic I asked Fred Mollin about the song when BB first aired. He said it was written by someone else whose name escapes me, apparently a escapes me, to lyrics which JP already had in the script. Fred, are you out there? Would you like to tell us more? Afflicted with the system changes from hell and beginning to think carrier pigeons would be more reliable :), Cousin Lisa -- "That will be trouble." Lisa McDavid mcdavid-lisa@s....... ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 10:38:42 CDT From: Bruce Rawitch <brucer@i.......> Subject: Bye Bye..... To all my fellow online FK'ers Well, all good things must come to an end, and so must my subscription to this list. Y'all should consider yourself fortunate to be part of such an articulate and interesting and diverse group of people-this is probably one of the most polite, charming and fun lists I have ever had the good fortune to be on. However, even on digest, I still don't have the time to keep up with FORK-NI, FK-SPOILR and FKFIC-L...you folks sure do have a lot to say ;) I will stay on the FKFIC-L/Some of the best fanfic I've seen is coming out there and even though I'm 50 digests behind, I won't give up the fanfic, I won't I won't I won't!!!! Hoping for real season of FK.....Keep writing those letters folks. Cheers Bruce Rawitch ____________________________________________ \ I've always felt that you can get more \ _ ______ | \ with a kind word and a 2x4 than you can \ / \___-=O`/|O`/__| \ with just a kind word..... \_______\ / | / ) / / `/-==__ _/__|/__=-| / Marcus the Ranger/ Babylon 5 / * \ | | /___________________________________________/ (o) =========================================================================
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