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Logfile LOG9605C Part 16

May 19-May 20, 1996

File: "FORKNI-L LOG9605C" Part 16

	FK article in Cinefantastique (fwd)
	LK-no spoiler
	Undernet IRC Chat Log 5/19
	Deb Duchene
	Last Knight  (2)
	Screwed up big time
	Support Group / other stuph
	Debs Glasses
	wahhh wahh
	Announcing The FORKNI-L Scrapbook...
	New Game to Play and Im sad
	Starlog Yearbook
	GWD movie  (2)
	LIST: no spoilers!
	thanks to the fiction writers
	Are you out there?
	NetRatings for Forever Knight
	Help again!!
	Sony Screensaver
	Why do you watch it?
	Thanks for the hugs/NY FK
	FK Fanzine html??
	a short interview with me

Date:         Mon, 20 May 1996 00:01:21 -0400
From:         Diane Kennedy <dkennedy@f.......>
Subject:      FK article in Cinefantastique (fwd)

Hi All:  Katrin sent me a longer message and asked if the following could
be forwarded to you for your information.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 02:28:40 +0200
From: soz91edr@s.......
To: dkennedy@f.......
Subject: FK article in Cinefantastique

Hi all,

I'm just back from a holiday in London (I'm a german FK-fan) and want
to share the following:

I found an article in the Cinefantastique, May issue (volume 27 Number
9)about FK. That article runs about four pages, seems to be well
investigated, summarizes and compares the three seasons. The author
Lawrence Tetewsky called season three (for good reason) a "pretty
light-weight" one, due to the influence of USA Network. The article ended with:
"Hopefully, Parriott(sp?) will be able to reassert the control so integral to
Forever Knight, and restore the integrity and conflict of the characters if
the series is to continue next year."

The author didn't mention the cancellation and I can hardly understand why?
Maybe the issue was ready for printing long ago (January?). But then, they
should have been able to add the rumors. Or does this means, that the series
will be continued? Maybe the journalist got more information than we did.

I wonder, because the whole magazine, this article included, seems to be a
very carefully investigated one.  (My comments:  depending on the time that
the article was written, the cancellation wasn't being given out officially
in printed material or the subject was just not mentioned. :dck)

Katrin, from Germany (via Diane, from Canada - a truly international

Date:         Sun, 19 May 1996 20:35:06 -2055
From:         "L. Katherine Queen" <lqueen@p.......>
Subject:      LK-no spoiler

Hi gang,

Allright you guys I still don't get to watch Last Knight for two and
one-half hours yet and I have 16 messages I can't read because they contain
spoilers.  This is torture!  Is there a twelve step program out there for
FK addiction.  I sure need to enroll.  We'll probably end up as guests on
the Sally J. Raphael show.  Abusive shows and the people who love
them...next week on SJR!

Sorry for ranting---off to pace now.

Katherine, Knightie in distress...Wait a minute isn't that supposed to be
damsel in distress? =(
Date:         Mon, 20 May 1996 00:53:43 -0400
From:         Melanie Moser <moser@c.......>
Subject:      Undernet IRC Chat Log 5/19

Late Saturday night thru Sunday morning, we had a wonderful IRC chat
/Last Knight Therapy session for all who were able to join us.
Chana and I kept a running log of most of the session.

I've placed the chat log on my ftp site for all those who may be
interested.  This log does contain spoilers.  This is also where
Sorcha's Discovery was named (Thanks, Sorcha and Vanguard!, a glimmer
of hope for all those N&NPackers!) The file is about 128K and can
be found at:

URL/ftp  ftp://ftp.clark.net/pub/moser/fk/misc/irclog518.txt

I'll link this into my FK Web page shortly.

Big thanks to Mickey and others that set up the Forever Knight
channel on Underground.  And for Chana for helping with the logs.
And for everyone that came by and shared, cared, cried, and
laughed with us.  Hugs to everyone for helping us make it through
this emotional time.

Mel Moser
N&NPacker, moser@c.......
Check out my Forever Knight Fan Fiction page at:
Date:         Mon, 20 May 1996 15:07:50 +1000
From:         MARY YOUNG <md.young@s.......>
Subject:      Deb Duchene

Heres something to keep your minds off the sadness you have been through
Has Deb Duchene really got a French accent in real life?
Can she speak French fluently?
Is she married or has she ever been married?
please email me off list to answer

If FK was merged with superman it would go like this

Janette would be Lois
Nick would be Supervamp
Nat would be Martha Vampenschooger
Lacroix would be Johnathan Vampenschooger
Schanke would be lex luther
Vachon would be Lex Luthers son
Tracey would be Cat Grant reicarnated
oh help me supervamp
ha ha ha
oh boy i cant laugh im too depressed even though i'm in Australia and i
wont see LK for another two years, i'll get the gist of it from the internet.
Janettes Fangs
very depressed Ravenette
Date:         Mon, 20 May 1996 01:10:46 -0400
From:         "Lisa P." <LadysAVamp@a.......>
Subject:      I Just Saw LK...SPOILERS

I don't think warm fuzzies is going to be enough.  I think the powers that be
must hate us.  I cannot believe they would do this.  They certainly wanted to
make certain that FK would not return (as a movie), at least with the
characters we have come to love.

I can't believe that Nick wouldn't be able to stop with Natalie, and that
Lacroix would kill his own son (at least that is how it was made to look).

I am VERY depressed.

Anyone out there?  I'll be on-line for another half hour or so.  E-mail me
directly, I'm on digest.

I'm so mad I could bite...

Lisa P.
Date:         Mon, 20 May 1996 00:12:57 PST
From:         "P. L. Montgomery" <plcm@j.......>
Subject:      Last Knight

Not meaning any spoilers, I must say that I just saw Last Knight.

I simply don't accept it, so I'm not crying.  And even were I to
accept it, there are still so many, many avenues for continuance
into a fourth season, so  many "plot loopholes" interwoven into
the tapestry of this episode, that I cannot despair.  Rather I
have hope that if we are vocal enough, if we make our wishes
heard, we can yet make Forever Knight truly forever.

Remember [the Alamo] Star Trek!   Look what an active, vocal
fandom did for its longevity and continued existence after its
putative "death".

Have hope, fellow fans of Forever Knight.

"Forever Knight...  Forever!"

P.L. Montgomery
    plcm@j.......               (for messages, etc.)
    plcm@t.......        (for encoded files, etc.)
Date:         Mon, 20 May 1996 01:24:34 -0400
From:         "Lisa P." <LadysAVamp@a.......>
Subject:      Screwed up big time

I've just been informed that I f***ed big time.  As I told that user, I
wasn't in my right mind at the time.  I hit the wrong address button in AOL.
 Sent my message to the wrong list.

Please be kind in any flames, I'm very upset at the moment.  Could use some
niceness at the moment.

My sincerest apologies to everyone.

Lisa P.
Date:         Sun, 19 May 1996 22:21:51 -0700
From:         Cynthia Hoffman <choff@v.......>
Subject:      Spoilers

Come on guys.  We're all a bit on edge and more than a bit freaked right
now, but that's no excuse to forget basic etiquette.  SPOILERS go to the
SPOILER list.  If you aren't on it, you can get on it by sending a
message to listserv@p....... and saying "subscribe fkspoilr" without
the quotes and yes, I've spelled spoilr properly for the list.

Spoilers do not belong on FORKNI-L.  Please stop sending them here.

Cynthia Hoffman/choff@v.......
Raven ** IB ** MBDtK
We cater to the occasional fetishist
Date:         Mon, 20 May 1996 01:30:46 -0400
From:         "Tammy Pond  [Digest]" <nightmist@g.......>
Subject:      Support Group / other stuph

Ida Egenberger:

  > ...pint of Ben & Jerry's with chocolate fudge and the works...


  > I'll be over at the warm fuzzies page for the next 2 hours
  > with my other pint of Chunky Monkey if anyone needs me.


I'm sorry, I know it's sad, but the way you wrote that post just made
me laugh soooooo hard... Since I've gone through two pints of Ben &
Jerry's Pina Colada Sorbet (All the flavor and none of the angst,
Yipee!) myself, I can *easily* understand...

Personally, I think this entire LIST is the support group. Albeit in
various shapes and sizes, but still...

Die-Hards Anonymous... pass the kleenex, pass the puffs, and lordie,
someone empty that trash can, the tissues are overflowing again!

Hi Chana! I remember you from the Wake party last (Saturday) night, I
remember Vanguard, but the other names don't stick.

BTW, about your partial list...

           Nytshadow = Mad_Fax_S = Nightmist.

Yep, all three are me. Never said I was normal... <g> Had lovely
problems with the server after the first nickname change, it kept
dropping me off line and the board kept going "Click!", and I ran
through the list of servers someone graciously posted (Thank You,
whoever it was) before I found one that like me.

Never realized "Mad Fax Spammer" wouldn't fit...

About the screensaver: Hubby DL'd the windows version, it's the same
as described for the Mac version. His opinion: "It looks like they
have a generic screen saver that they can just plug a different logo
into for whatever show they want to have a screen saver for." Blech.

Nightmist@g.......     The Mad Fax Spammer
Date:         Mon, 20 May 1996 16:04:35 +1000
From:         MARY YOUNG <md.young@s.......>
Subject:      Debs Glasses

could anyone please get there heads out of a tissue and tell me if Deb
Duchene wears glasses i have seen piccys of her and she had glasses on'
Janettes Fangs
Mary Young
Date:         Mon, 20 May 1996 15:37:13 +1000
From:         MARY YOUNG <md.young@s.......>
Subject:      wahhh wahh

thats me finished
i live in Australia and i have just seen the spoilers for LK and i dont
see anything to live for now
its finished and i wont even get the episode until a long time
unless anyone has a spare copy that i could have {snif} {snif}
oh my fangs are bent
my energys spent
i need a hug
FKs gone down the plug
i'm lonesome tonight
in need of a fright
i want back my Nick
i need a kick
Its ooooovvvvveeeeerrrr
its ooooooovvvvvveeeeerrrrr
wahh wahhh
please have the right to save the Knight dont give up the fight
Janettes very bent Fangs
Date:         Mon, 20 May 1996 03:15:27 -0400
From:         Frederic Ferland <mrhappy@m.......>
Subject:      Announcing The FORKNI-L Scrapbook...

Hi all!

Well, I've finally finished that "Address Book" I told you about not long
ago!  It was longer to do that I first thought, but I'm very satisfied with
the results.

If you want to check it out, it's on my Forever Knight page at
http://mtl.net/solidarite/mrhappy/fk.htm.  Just go to the Scrapbook section
and click on the link.

I'd like to have comments on this if possible.  Also, the page is slightly
"Netscape enhanced", so if you're using another browser (such as AOL's
browser), I'd like to know if the page looks okay.

I hope you'll like what I've done.  Thanks a lot to those of you who have
already sent me their entry.  Keep 'em coming!  Some people told me they
were sending their photo via snail-mail.  I'll probably receive some this
week, so keep checking if you want to see them.

Waiting for some comments.

Frederic Ferland                   |
mrhappy@m.......                    | Always remember you're unique,
http://mtl.net/solidarite/mrhappy  |          just like everyone else...
NatPacker & Perkulator (!)         |
Date:         Mon, 20 May 1996 17:57:20 +1000
From:         MARY YOUNG <md.young@s.......>
Subject:      New Game to Play and Im sad

yep i need a hug
i have already had one from Lisa
thankyou but i need more sob sob
Even though i live in Australia i can feel your pain through the cyberwaves
and it is very sad is'nt it
anyway i will try and start a new topic of discussion
What if you all send comments on "If Nick was real" (i know he really is
but if he was really really real"
what would he do to the bums at CBS
This can help you get rid of some of your grief by saying what you'd do
to them
anyway any comments
Janettes Fangs
Ravenette 4 eva
Date:         Fri, 17 May 1996 14:50:25 -0500
From:         Margie Hammet <treeleaf@i.......>
Subject:      Starlog Yearbook

If you looked for the Starlog Yearbook with Ger's and Catherine's
interviews in it last week, try again.  I just got my copy.  The nice
people at Walden Books took my name and number when I was looking for
it last week and called me when it came in.

Margie (treeleaf@i.......)
Date:         Mon, 20 May 1996 04:56:21 -0400
From:         A McLaughlin <Iremi@a.......>
Subject:      GWD movie

I saw GWD in the old  " Bionic showdown" boy talk about hokey. Maybe TV has
come a long way since then. He looked good, so did Sandra Bullock, and what a
surprise! ( Not!) it was filmed in Toronto. Now be honest, how long did it
take you to figure out he was the bad guy? It took me all of ten minutes.

Date:         Mon, 20 May 1996 12:06:10 GMT
From:         Jamie Melody Randell <immajer@n.......>
Subject:      LIST: no spoilers!

Be vewy vewy quiet.  I'm hunting spoilers.

There is a very big difference between discussing the series having ended,
and discussing the ending itself.  Hugs and sobs  are okay here.  SPOILERS

If you are even slightly in doubt about whether your post contains spoiler
content, POST IT TO FKSPOILR.  It's safer that way. <g>

I hate to have to belabor the point at a painful time like this, but it's
very important that we all pay close attention to make sure that we don't
violate the rights of those who've been assiduously avoiding spoilers, only
to find them in a venue where they're not supposed to be...

Thanks, y'all -- Love, Jamie

 -:-:-:-:- Jamie M.R. <immajer@n.......> -:-:-:-:-
 Asst. Listowner, The Smoking Natpacker, ConvCoS, NDNEDnik
-->>> Illustrated Webgoddess & Keeper of Warm Fuzzies <<<--
** List Rules <http://cac.psu.edu/~jap8/FK/FKRules.html> **
The Truth Is Out There. Just maybe not in our jurisdiction.
Date:         Mon, 20 May 1996 08:22:25 -0400
From:         "Gaylin J. Walli" <gjwalli@m.......>
Subject:      thanks to the fiction writers

I want to personally thank all the fiction writers for the
wonderful stories that got written this weekend. What a
wonderful way to enjoy our first good weather in the Keweenaw.

Jasmine, Faithful Ravenette, gjwalli@m.......
Date:         Mon, 20 May 1996 07:12:13 PDT
From:         "Leslie I.Plummer" <lplummer@i.......>
Subject:      Re: GWD movie

At 04:56 AM 5/20/96 -0400, you wrote:
>I saw GWD in the old  " Bionic showdown" boy talk about hokey. Maybe TV has
>come a long way since then. He looked good, so did Sandra Bullock,

--And this was released in 1989, before FK (either version) & before
Sandra in SPEED!

Now be honest, how long did it take you to figure out he was the bad guy?
--I was all ready to assume our fav guy was it, except for the fact that
my TV guide had made such a big deal about Lee Majors' real son (L.M. II)
was in it too (in the credits).  He played the shorter, younger, blond
OSI agent.. who kept butting in & interrupting Lee.

Also, the bad guy, in disguise looked shorter than our guy (& LM II is
shorter) So, I guess I fell for the red herring!   Ger was VERY cute, anyway.

When he fell over the side of the building (to his death), I kept
expecting him to FLY! (yes, never mind the sun, etc.)

Date:         Mon, 20 May 1996 10:33:30 -0400
From:         Carrie Krumtum <CKrumtum@g.......>
Subject:      Are you out there?

Sorry guys, but, everything I send to Dotti bounces. I'm concerned. We
haven't heard from her in a while. If anyone knows anything, please e-mail me

Dotti, if your out there, let me know what's up will ya. My nerves are
getting frazzled here.


Carrie, Slovenly Knightie AKA Carrie the Cruel
It's hard to judge someone when you're blinded by your love for them.
--Mother Teresa
Date:         Mon, 20 May 1996 09:46:53 -0500
From:         tim jones <tl@i.......>
Subject:      HELP!!

Hi all!!!
I am getting a new e-mail addy today and was wondering if someone could mail
me off list on exactly how to change list membership to new addy. Thanks in

Cousin Kelly
Date:         Mon, 20 May 1996 09:50:10 -0500
From:         Jeff Standish <jestandi@c.......>
Subject:      NetRatings for Forever Knight

Notice:  This is the last regular posting of voting summaries.  A
more-or-less final summary of all episodes will be posted in a few
weeks after most people have seen all of the new episodes in syndication
(for those of us lucky enough to have access to it that way).  So cast
your votes for the final episodes.  After the final summary is posted,
the current results will only be found on the web home page.

Recent Episodes:
#322, Last Knight
#321, Ashes to Ashes
#320, Francesca
#319, Jane Doe

Season 3 Episodes                     Rating   Max    Min   StdDev  # Votes
-----------------------------------   ------  -----  -----  ------  -------
301 The Black Buddha, Part 1           6.84   10.00   3.00   1.48      57
302 The Black Buddha, Part 2           6.96   10.00   3.00   1.45      52
303 Outside the Lines                  5.57    9.00   1.00   1.90      44
304 Blackwing                          7.68   10.00   3.00   1.62      51
305 Blind Faith                        6.54   10.00   1.00   2.15      46
306 My Boyfriend is a Vampire          7.73   10.00   4.00   1.51      53
307 Hearts of Darkness                 6.52   10.00   3.00   1.66      46
308 Trophy Girl                        6.65   10.00   1.00   1.94      39
309 Let No Man Tear Asunder            7.26   10.00   3.00   1.69      45
310 Night in Question                  9.33   10.00   2.00   1.34      65
311 Sons of Belial                     9.21   10.00   6.00   1.02      54
312 Strings                            6.92   10.00   3.00   1.65      30
313 Fever                              9.35   10.00   4.00   1.19      36
314 Dead of Night                      8.78   10.00   6.00   0.98      31
315 The Games Vampires Play            7.88   10.00   3.00   1.80      28
316 The Human Factor                   8.06   10.00   2.00   2.21      31
317 Avenging Angel                     6.27    8.00   1.00   1.83      13
318 Fallen Idol                        7.36   10.00   5.00   1.39      14
319 Jane Doe                           7.61    9.00   6.00   1.22       9
320 Francesca
321 Ashes to Ashes
322 Last Knight

Number of Episodes: 22
Votes per Episode:  34.36
Average Rating:      7.73
Weighted Average:    7.59

 Rating is the average rating from those gathered to date.
    Max is the highest rating received.
    Min is the lowest rating received.
 StdDev is the standard deviation of the collected ratings.
# Votes is the total number of votes counted for that episode.

How does it work?
E-mail me (jestandi@c.......) your vote for a given episode,
telling me the name of the episode and how you would rate it on a
scale of 1 (lowest) to 10 (highest).  If you don't know the name of
an episode, you can check out the episode guide at:

I accept votes for the current week's episode, along with all previous
episodes (including those from previous seasons).  A listing of all votes
received for each episode is available from the main web page, listed by
e-mail name (full e-mail addresses are withheld for validation purposes).

The current ratings for Forever Knight are posted weekly to
alt.tv.forever-knight and rec.arts.sf.tv, the Forever Knight mailing
list, and can also be found over the web at the following address:

Jeff Standish                                      The concept is simply
jestandi@c.......                            staggering.  Pointless,
http://www.cs.indiana.edu/hyplan/jestandi.html     but staggering.  -Dr. Who
Date:         Mon, 20 May 1996 10:23:18 -0600
From:         Dirk Giles <dpgiles@n.......>
Subject:      IRC on AOL

For all of you AOLers out there, I will be posting information later
today on accessing IRC through your AOL account.  Yes, it can be done!
Sorry this was not in time for the big wake, though.

Socrates - Faithful Raven
IRC nick - So-Krates
(Dirk Giles - dpgiles@n.......)
Date:         Mon, 20 May 1996 11:43:32 -0500
From:         tim jones <tl@i.......>
Subject:      Help again!!

 Sorry guys,
After trying several times, I can't seem to unsub myself from the lists, so
that I can resub. under my new addy.Any help would be appreciated, thanks

cousin Kelly
Date:         Mon, 20 May 1996 12:56:20 -0400
From:         Lane Lombardia <longpath@n.......>
Subject:      Re: Sony Screensaver

On 19-5-96 at 19:17, P. L. Montgomery <plcm@j.......> wrote:
>I'm interested in getting hold of the Windows version but I need
>a URL in order to do that.  Pretty please post the SONY page URL?

This is the URL I use to get to the Sony FK page:

I hope this is of use to you all.

Lane Lombardia
Date:         Mon, 20 May 1996 12:20:52 EDT
From:         *Booga* <102425.1537@c.......>
Subject:      Re: Last Knight

        All I have to say is this; I rarely repeat my self, but in this case I
make an exception.  It's not over.  It's never over unless we want it to be.
all of these wonderful alternate endings, add-on endings, and such are proof of
that.  and moreover, I have given up looking for a fourth season, it's not going
to happen.  that doesnt matter any more.  If they wrote the fourth season as
they wrote th latter half of 3rd, I wouldn't want it.  what I will fight for,
is a movie.  there have been talks about a movie deal, and if we put the same
tenacity into it as we did for the other seasons, we stand a good chance.  I am
so thankfull for those of you who never said die, and brought us a third
season, I hope you'll keep the dream alive.

        -- Ian Curtis
        Malkavian Monitor of Toronto
        "Two weeks ago I was dead.
        Things have been pretty much downhill ever since"
Date:         Mon, 20 May 1996 13:45:18 EDT
From:         Lisa McDavid <D020214@u.......>
Subject:      Re: Why do you watch it?

>Granted, we've got some pretty good genre TV on right now.  So why did you
>watch FK?

Originally because a friend nagged me until I set my vcr during the first
season. I've always been fascinated by angst-ridden vampires, ever since
the original Dark Shadows. The first episode I ever saw was Only the Lonely.
The next, of course, was Feeding the Beast. The characters were so strongly
drawn and their interactions so fascinating that I got hooked.

>Did you watch it more for the vampire than the cop shop?
>More copshop than vampire?
>Equal time to both?

The vampire only. I would have gotten hooked if Nick hadn't been a
cop. It's not that I don't like cop shows as a genre, but there's no
way I'd have stayed up in the middle of the night and worked in a
zombie-like trance next day for a cop show. (My local station couldn't
be trusted, when FK was on CBS, to show it when it was listed.) I'd
simply have said, hey, nice show, pity it's on at such a bad hour and
left it alone.

>Did you want more flashbacks?
>Less flashbacks?
>Equal time to flashbacks and current day?

I think they had the mix about right in the first season, which was
more or less equal on average. More flashbacks in the second two seasons
were, imho, a mistake. We got flashbacks at times which hadn't much
relevance to the modern story. I think fewer flashbacks might have
worked in the last season, when I often felt that they were thrown in
whether or not the overall story needed them.

More flashbacks, especially in spilling the backstory on Vachon and
Urs at once, seriously lessened both characters for me, because half
the intrigue with Nick, LaCroix and Janette, had been the speculation
on their background. We never had a chance to build up similar mystiques
with Vachon and Urs. I've wondered, incidentally, if this was USA's doing.

>Would you have liked to see historical stories with no current day (or very

Maybe as a great rarity, the way we got Curiouser & Curiouser in the 2nd
season. I don't think we would have wanted it as a regular thing. It
would have had too much risk of turning into Interview With the Angsty
Vampire. :)

>Would you have liked non-historical flashbacks (like C&C or STF)?

I wouldn't call those flashbacks, so much as interludes. It depended so
much on the writer and the story. For instance, I hated the flashaways
(if I can call them that) in Dying for Fame in the first season, probably
because I didn't like the episode to begin with. I loved Curiouser &
Curiouser and I liked the Rashomon segments in STF. Otoh, the spirit
plane in Blackwing just didn't interest me. If anything, I thought they
held up the modern story.

So I suppose the answer to the question is, sometimes, but not as a
common thing.

>Did you watch for one character in particular and which one?

No. Like most of us, I had favorites, but I can't say I was watching
for anyone in particular. There were a couple which almost drove me
to *not* watching. :)

Cousin Lisa -- "That will be trouble."
Lisa McDavid
Date:         Mon, 20 May 1996 14:37:45 -0600
From:         "Scott, Victoria D." <vscott@s.......>
Subject:      Thanks for the hugs/NY FK

I just wanted to thank everyone for the virtual hugs that were sent to me.
 I feel much better now.  They were all very comforting.

I will be in NY for Memorial Day weekend.  can some kind soul tell me where
and when FK would air.  The last time I was home it was still on CBS.  I
think I am a little behind the times.

FK pondering:  Our favorite vamps have chosen Toronto as their latest home.
  If they were going to move, where would they go next and what would they

Date:         Mon, 20 May 1996 16:14:32 -0300
From:         Paula Hurley <dkknight@a.......>
Subject:      FK Fanzine html??

I need some help, from anyone out there who might have the address of the FK
fanzine site. I used to have to the address myself, but have since lost it,
all I remember of the address is ...../u/mae/fkzlist.html, or something like
that, can anybody tell me what the rest of it is?? Thanks.

Dark Knightie * Light Cousin * Valentine * Nick&NatPacker * The Unnamed Faction
"It's ALWAYS about YOU!" - LaCroix(Can't Run, Can't Hide)
"Clearly I have a future as a sobering influence on the disenfranchised!" -
Date:         Mon, 20 May 1996 15:13:55 -0400
From:         A McLaughlin <Iremi@a.......>
Subject:      a short interview with me

I was going to print the following in my magazine but thought you all might
be piqued by it too.

 Welcome to Hollywood, fans

A friend of mine who is not interested in Forever Knight asked me to explain
the history of the show. I will paraphrase some of the questions and answers
in the form of an interview.

It got cancelled because, (pause) remember the Mel Brooks film "The
Producers" where the idea was that the producers of a play figured out a way
to make money off of a flop, but to their horror "Springtime for Hitler" is a
success? This is it. Tri-Star, Sony, and USA Network made more money on the
show failing than it succeeding.
Yep. Ultimately to them, we are only numbers and they didn't like the
Because the fans care. From the beginning I had a sense that TPTB (the powers
that be) never had any energy behind the show. "Is it a cop who's a vampire,
a vampire who's a cop? What?" they didn't understand it so they didn't know
how to market it, or relate to it. The people actually involved in the making
knew it was something but they only had so much influence. The Producer, as
much as he cared, I think, never had the clout to endorse it.
No I don't think so. As a result of the saga of Forever Knight, the average
fan/viewer, I mean the ones who followed the story on the internet for
example, got a valuable lesson about the the world of TV. Hollywood is
 Yes it is, but essential to understanding the way the business works.
Everyone lies, cheats, and deals behind their backs, and that ok- in the
business. What fails is when that mentally is used to deal with the public.
The fans see it as betrayal and insensitivity. Whether it's pro baseball, or
the stock market or police work the perception used in whatever field is
shocking to the unintiated and totally different from what they expect.
 Near impossible feat but I would do this: Clout is what's missing here.  I'd
find someone who had the power and say
" Check it out, this is something and can make money". But TV is masochistic
by nature.
 If it's a formula, meaning simple to grasp, then produce it. Sometimes it's
hit sometimes not. No one knows how success works. If it's original or
innovative, which the critics and supposedly the public want, then make sure
it fails. The business is one part money grubbing, one part ego. Innovation
is the enemy to both because it involves the unknown. A no-no among
No they aren't original . they are new spins on old formulas. The only reason
FK made it to TV in the first place was the cop show formula part of it.
Beyond that...the unknown factor again.

How does this sound? Feedback welcome, criticism will be cheerfully ignored.

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