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Logfile LOG9604B Part 17

April 11-April 12, 1996

File: "FORKNI-L LOG9604B" Part 17

	TOPICS:
	Question  (3)
	Decapitation vs. squooshing (was: Re: Stuff)  (5)
	Nick & LaCroix faction name  (2)
	Syndicon Chatting on AOL
	Best Immortal Beloved Moments  (2)
	CROSS-POSTING:  No!
	Literacy?  (5)
	YKYBOTFKLTLW ...
	BRAZIL TURNS TO COW BLOOD TO FIGHT MALNUTRITION  (2)
	Eyebrows & Faction Hang-outs
	ReRuns & Spoiler-Protection
	Humbly Begging Your Pardon...
	Trophy Girl
	YNYBWTM......
	ordering the FK cd  (3)
	Merc Central (was: Re: Eyebrows..etc.)
	Triangles
	Lacroix Eyebrow Faction
	Another stupid newbie question

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Date:         Thu, 11 Apr 1996 21:05:20 -0700
From:         April Ruskin <aruskin@e.......>
Subject:      Question

I'm having a very un-cousinly thought <I hang my head in shame>

Is there a faction for everyone in FK living in peace in harmony.
Some examples: Nick and LaCroix make up, Nat and Janette stop getting
in catfights, LaCroix and Nat stop fighting, Nick stops angsting, etc.

I got a terrifying vision of everyone having a Brady Bunch like picnic!

--
Cousin April -- the Ninja Babe with an attitude
Born to make normal people's lives a living hell.
aruskin@e.......
Resident psychopath of Tullahoma, TN.
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Date:         Thu, 11 Apr 1996 23:15:14 -0400
From:         Dotti Rhodes <dottir@w.......>
Subject:      Re: Decapitation vs. squooshing (was: Re: Stuff)

At 11:00 PM 4/11/96 -0400, you wrote:
>
>
>Wait a minute.  Do we even have series canon on decapitation, or is that a
>historical thing?  Because as we all know, 'traditional' vampire lore has
>little to no bearing on the world of FK -- and then, inconsistently.

Seems to be that in Dark Knight LaCroix comes after Nick wielding a meat
cleaver saying something about the ways a vampire can be killed, "fire,
stake thru the heart and decapitation" as he tries to cut off Nick's head.
So, I suppose that's canon - eh?

Dotti R
Knightie 4-Ever
dottir@w.......
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Date:         Thu, 11 Apr 1996 22:09:34 -0500
From:         Margie Hammet <treeleaf@i.......>
Subject:      Re: Nick & LaCroix faction name

>> I have a suggestion for the Nick & LaCroix fraction name:
>> That Will Be Trouble.

>Faction members would be "The Troubled."  It captures the essence of the
>Nick/LC relationship!

I just can't see faction members being called "The Troubled". Besides that,
while the relationship may be "troubled", I do think there is real affection
there, in spite of everything. (I think Nick has a love/hate relationship
with LaCroix.) I'm still pushing for The Unnamed. It has a mysterious quality
to it, that I think fits the feel of the relationship.

Margie (treeleaf@i.......)
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Date:         Thu, 11 Apr 1996 23:20:40 -0400
From:         Marcia Tucker <ScFiMarci@a.......>
Subject:      Syndicon Chatting on AOL

There's a group of us who chat about FK on America Online who will be joining
some fans  who are attending the Syndicon in SF in a chat in the private room
"The Raven" tomorrow night (Friday) at 11 pm ET.  They're having a party in
one of their hotel rooms and chatting online with us about the convention!

I can't make it, however... marital harmony, that sort of thing.  Need a
night away from the computer!  But have fun and if anyone logs it, please
send the log to me!  Thanks!

All the discussions on FK vampire biology here and over on FKSPOILR, BTW, are
interesting!  I love that sort of discussion though I haven't any thoughts to
contribute.  I do love reading about it.  Keep it up!

Did we ever decide we'd discuss the 1st season episodes once they start to
air on Sci-Fi Channel?  I can't wait to retape these as my copies
(x-generation) are less than satisfactory!  And as I came across mid-2nd
season, I'm dying to discuss these early episodes with y'all!!!

Dame Marcia Tucker
ScFiMarci@a.......
Dark Knightie / Immortal Beloved
Declaring *Luna*cy / Committing FK fiction whenever possible
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Date:         Thu, 11 Apr 1996 23:25:23 -0400
From:         Dotti Rhodes <dottir@w.......>
Subject:      Re: Best Immortal Beloved Moments

At 06:04 PM 4/11/96 -0700, you wrote:
>>
>Ok; now, there is an IB moment that I've only seen in That Which We Are
>Not Supposed to Have.  Nick and Janette are sitting on a couch, in a room
>I can't identify, discussing freedom... and their lack of it under LC.
>Where is that from, please?
>
It's from "A Fate Worse Than Death", the tag, after Natalie has removed some
"evidence" from Janette.

Dotti R
Knightie 4-Ever
dottir@w.......
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Date:         Thu, 11 Apr 1996 20:36:00 -0700
From:         Elizabeth Ann Lewis <elewis@u.......>
Subject:      Re: Best Immortal Beloved Moments

At 6:04 PM 4/11/96, AKR wrote (yes, Amy really wrote this):
>Ok; now, there is an IB moment that I've only seen in That Which We Are
>Not Supposed to Have.  Nick and Janette are sitting on a couch, in a room
>I can't identify, discussing freedom... and their lack of it under LC.
>Where is that from, please?

Isn't that A Fate Worse Than Death, after Nat has dug out the bullets and left?

Lizbet~*~*~*~*~*~*~Proud Member of the Mercenary Guild
elewis@u.......***Lizbetann@a.......
Ravenette of the New Order--Knightie/NatPacker/N&N Packer with Cousinly
Sympathies and faint leanings towards Vanquea-ism
"Arnyd yw Ewyll hyd yw"--Passion is the will to be
Listowner, Middle Ages Life
http://members.aol.com/Lizbetann/mypage.html
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Date:         Thu, 11 Apr 1996 23:27:12 -0400
From:         Jamie Melody Randell <immajer@p.......>
Subject:      CROSS-POSTING:  No!

There's been a distressing tendency toward cross-posting lately...

This is not a good thing.

The reason we have three lists is because each of them exists for a
specific purpose: FKFIC for fiction, FKSPOILR for spoilers, FORKNI for
everything else.  These are fairly distinct categories; there should be no
overlap.  Cross-posting is almost always unnecessary, and wastes bandwidth
for people who pay by-the-word/line/minute to get their e-mail.  It's like
the emergency broadcast system: it should be saved for the most extreme
circumstances.

NOBODY should be posting the same message to more than one list, unless
they've cleared it with a listowner in *advance*.  If it's important enough
to be posted to a whole bunch o'lists, it's important enough for you to
tell us about it first.

Okay?  Thanks.

--
Jamie M.R. -- Asst. Listowner -- http://members.aol.com/immajer/
Illustrated Webgoddess & Keeper of Warm Fuzzies
"I may do what I have done.  I may smash the hollow rock
without breaking stride and splinter the glitter inside
all over a midnight street." -- L.F.
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Date:         Fri, 12 Apr 1996 00:27:52 -0400
From:         Cynthia R Ratajczak <crr2@a.......>
Subject:      Re: Literacy?

Hi everyone!

    Regarding the question of whether or not Janette can read, I think it
might have been possible.  In the second season episode where Janette has
a flashback (was it "A Fate Worse Than Death?), I think it was mentioned
that Janette was "of noble blood" and that her husband sold her to the
brothel because she did not produce the son that he wanted.  If her
family was of minor nobility, like the deBrabants (although she lived 200
years earlier), then she may have learned to read.

    However, I have one question.  That episode mentioned that if Janette
had been able to have a child, "she'd be living in England."  Why would
she be living in England if she was French?  If she married foreign
nobility, that would imply that she was of greater importance and lineage
than lesser nobility.

    Any comments?

Cynthia
Knightie/Natpacker/Vaquera
crr2@a.......
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Date:         Fri, 12 Apr 1996 00:30:45 -0400
From:         Dalton Spence <dalton.spence@f.......>
Subject:      YKYBOTFKLTLW ...

You know you've been on the FK lists too long when, while reading "Oath
of Fealty" for the umpteenth time, you see a chapter preface by Learned
Hand and wonder where it got its education.

Dalton S. Spence, B.Sc. <ag775@f.......>
Home Page: http://www.freenet.hamilton.on.ca/~ag775/home.html
(Help me, I'm starting to recycle my subjects!)
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Date:         Thu, 11 Apr 1996 21:12:01 PST
From:         June Russell <Kat@g.......>
Subject:      Re: Literacy?

Amy wrote:
:In any case, it suddenly hit me that Nick doesn't read much.
:     Nick has a big screen TV.
:Off the top of my head, the only books I can prove Nick has read are
:vampire novels (STF) and the Bible (SoB).

As a LOL ("Lover of Loft") I have studied where he keeps his books. They are
in the hallway off the kitchen next to the refrigerator. Never got a close
enough look to see *what* is in it, but it looks pretty full. He may have
more in the space we never see into that's above the bathroom.

But otherwise, I haven't *seen* him reading. However, as voracious a reader
as I am, I'm rarely *seen* reading either (except maybe in airplanes. Can't
sit still that long otherwise.)

Wait, I take that back. I've seen him reading some sort of report in Black
Buddha. I don't know if that counts.

:What's the point of eternal life if you aren't going to
:use it to *read*?

Amen to that! "So many books, so little time."

Kat (who has a nonfiction listing of over 5000 books. That doesn't count the
science fiction, historical fiction, literature/plays, mystery, romance,
music, medical books, engineering books... Had to move to the current house
because the old one didn't have room for more bookshelves, even in the
hallways. Running out of room fast.)

Kat ( June Russell )
pacifier.com!grendal!kat    kat@g.......
Heu! Tintinnuntius meus Sonat!
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Date:         Fri, 12 Apr 1996 00:36:38 -0400
From:         Dalton Spence <dalton.spence@f.......>
Subject:      BRAZIL TURNS TO COW BLOOD TO FIGHT MALNUTRITION

Excerpts from an AP newspaper article sent to me by Rebecca Tanner
<rebecca@r.......> about an experimental food supplement.

> "Cow blood is even more nutritious than meat, containing plenty of
> eight essential amino acids the human body must obtain through food.
>     Scientists compare amino acids to construction material in which
> proteins are the body's bricks and amino acids are the grains of sand
> and clay making up those bricks." <----+
                                         |
You know what they say, Nick. "You are what you eat." <G>

> "The plasma was separated in a centrifuge and dried egg white, vitamin
> A, and flour were added
>   The result was a yellowish, odorless, flour-like substance. It was
> called Prothemol, from protein and hemo, the Greek word for blood."

So Nat, just what DO you put in those protein shakes you *INVENTED*?

Dalton S. Spence, B.Sc. <ag775@f.......>
Home Page: http://www.freenet.hamilton.on.ca/~ag775/home.html
(I know one thing. IT'S NOT OATMEAL!)
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Date:         Thu, 11 Apr 1996 21:39:49 -0700
From:         AKR <r@w.......>
Subject:      Re: Decapitation vs. squooshing (was: Re: Stuff)

Jamie wrote:
> Wait a minute.  Do we even have series canon on decapitation...?

As a matter of fact, we have LC's word for it. Whatever that's worth...<g>

I actually managed to bring someone over last weekend (I feel a bit like
Nick; after numerous failures, I suddenly have someone on my hands, don't
know what to do with her, and she's showing signs of being a Ravenette.
Hi, Sara!) and we watched "Dark Knight."  LC lists off the ways a vampire
can die while he and Nick are tussling in the warehouse, and tags
"decapitation" on to the end of the list...

***** Amy, Lady of the Knight  (AKR) r@w....... *****
Bright Knightie, Light Cousin, Fleur-Booster, (Im)Mortal Beloved
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Date:         Fri, 12 Apr 1996 00:45:00 -0400
From:         Lisa Clevenger <Sukhmet@a.......>
Subject:      Re: Eyebrows & Faction Hang-outs

Angelique, in a fan Fic WAR?  Liz, isn't that breaking some rule somewhere?
 Of course, I  think rules were made to get really, really bent, to the point
of snaping:)

Cousine Suk, possesed of Angelique and a few others

Sukhmet@a.......
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Date:         Thu, 11 Apr 1996 21:53:51 -0700
From:         AKR <r@w.......>
Subject:      ReRuns & Spoiler-Protection

> Completely irrelevant question:  What are we up to in reruns?  What's the
> lastest episode out of spoiler protection?  I don't watch reruns, so...

Correct me if I'm wrong, please, but "Fever" will *finally* rerun in
syndication this weekend.  It reran on USA weeks ago, but will only
officially come out of protection this week.  USA is going to rerun
"Trophy Girl" *again* tonight.  Since we are only now getting to "Fever,"
not all of the old eps will be out of spoiler protection when the final
four begin to air.

***** Amy, Lady of the Knight  (AKR) r@w....... *****
Bright Knightie, Light Cousin, Fleur-Booster, (Im)Mortal Beloved
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Date:         Fri, 12 Apr 1996 00:59:05 -0400
From:         "Meredith E. Pickering" <Plan2@a.......>
Subject:      Humbly Begging Your Pardon...

To all-

A brief apology.  May I do nothing more awful while on this list... I know
the commands/addresses.  I mean, I KNOW them, but it was definitely one of
those days... I'm leaving for a week for a conference (in Florida) and my
grandfather was taken to the hospital today and had to have emergency
surgery. (He's o.k.)  Somebody send me warm fuzzies, please!

Again, I apologize for taking up bandwidth with this nonsense.

Meredith
Natpacker, Nick&Natpacker, Dracpacker
"I used to be confused, but now I just don't know..."
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Date:         Thu, 11 Apr 1996 22:13:59 -0700
From:         AKR <r@w.......>
Subject:      Re: Literacy?

> HOWEVER...there was an odd law in the Duchy of Brabant that all lands held
> by the Duke must pass to the children of his first marriage ONLY. So if
> Nick and Fleur were the children of his second wife, they could not
> inherit anything, which would explain why Nick had to sell his sword.

Lizbet... this is almost inexpressibly wonderful.   *Thank you.*
However, wouldn't that imply that Nick and Fleur had half-siblings?  If
so, why would Nick be so concerned with Fleur carrying on the family
line?  I don't mean to disparage his regard for his mother, but wouldn't
those half-siblings be enough for the future of the family?  And if those
half-siblings died, would Nick inherit, or would a relative of the first
wife be next in line?  If Fleur, umm, married and had children, what
would be the status of those children?  And would Nick really be able to
support his mother and sister by "knighting" (after all, his father was
already dead in BMV, and Nick wasn't surprised by the absence)?

***** Amy, Lady of the Knight  (AKR) r@w....... *****
Bright Knightie, Light Cousin, Fleur-Booster, (Im)Mortal Beloved
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Date:         Thu, 11 Apr 1996 22:37:50 -0700
From:         AKR <r@w.......>
Subject:      Re: Question

The Ninja Cousin Babe With an Attitude dared to ask:
> Is there a faction for everyone in FK living in peace and harmony?
Ummmmmmm.... NO.  :)  But we can make one... <wg>  They would call
themselves: "C&C II."  They stand for:
> Some examples: Nick and LaCroix make up, Nat and Janette stop getting
> in catfights, LaCroix and Nat stop fighting, Nick stops angsting, etc.
     To get Nick to stop angsting, someone like Marian Blackwing
psychically removes his guilt-feelings.  To get Nick and LC to make up, she
deposits the guilt in LC, who suddenly feels just awful for the way he's
treated his son.  Nat has a good, long talk with Janette, and realizes that
Nick is just too immature for her; Janette only gets by because he's her
outlet for her suppressed maternal instincts.  Nat doesn't want Nick
anymore, so she and LC get on just fine.  Reese conquers the water-cooler;
Tracy turns the Raven into the Bluebird; Vachon goes to the Academy...
      And then Nick wakes up sweating blood.
:)
***** Amy, Lady of the Knight  (AKR) r@w....... *****
Bright Knightie, Light Cousin, Fleur-Booster, (Im)Mortal Beloved
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Date:         Fri, 12 Apr 1996 01:40:47 -0400
From:         Judith Freudenthal <JudithF955@a.......>
Subject:      Trophy Girl

I forgot to mention this earlier.

Did anyone notice how Nat seemed surprized that Tracy won the firefight?

Judy
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Date:         Thu, 11 Apr 1996 22:42:57 -0700
From:         Denise Underwood <ithildin@m.......>
Subject:      YNYBWTM......

One for the road.....

YNYBWTMFKW... as you read TIME the words "angsting over cows" leap out
at you. Your first thought is "Oh no, if Nick is angsting over cows,
what on earth is he going to feed on now?"  ;) It turns out they are
talking about Hindus in India worried about the plight of Mad Cow
disease and the mass cattle slaughter in the UK.

Denise, The Cousinly Ravenette
ithildin@m.......
~ The Keeper of the SyndiCon party room~ ( who is SO happy she gets to
                                             see NB this weekend <BG>)
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Date:         Fri, 12 Apr 1996 00:45:35 -0500
From:         Lady Sushi <phoenix@i.......>
Subject:      Re: ordering the FK cd

>>Gaylin asked: > Did anyone else have their CD case arrive cracked?
>>   My case was fine, but I busted a couple of fingernails trying to get the
>>   darn plastic off... :)  Too impatient, I guess. :)
>I'm gonna use my teeth!  As you should have.

Just slice the case against a hard edge (cabinet, counter, etc.).  Hold the
thing at an angle, and DRAAAAAAAAAGGGGG an edge against the other edge.
Rips it in seconds, and without messy residue!  Complements of a Holidays
stint at Media Play...

ObFK:  YKYBWOTLTLW... You and a friends are discussing people to blackmail,
in order to get power, in order to take over North America.  You, in all
caps, suggest Jon Feltheimer and Kay Koplowitz.  Yeah, yeah, lame.  All I
could think of at the moment.

Cousin "Susan" Phoenix, Camera Fanatic of the Thong Throng, Unnamed
phoenix@i.......
Tell me what that "sleep" thing is again?
**Do not pester vampyres, for you are chewy and good with ketchup.**
Happiness is [insert name here]'s [insert body part(s) here] on a stick.
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Date:         Fri, 12 Apr 1996 15:44:00 PDT
From:         Christine Hawkins <chawkins@n.......>
Subject:      Re: Literacy?

Margie wrote:

>Nick's been around for about 800 years, though. There might have been times
>he read more and times he read less.

I'd say he wasn't a great reader though.  Most of the people I know who
enjoy reading (including myself) tend to amass a collection of books.  There
doesn't seem to be a single bookshelf in Nick's loft - TV, videos,
computers, yes, but no books, not even a stack of unreturned library books!
 Come to think of it, I can't even recall seeing Nick read a newspaper or a
magazine.

Reading also tends to be a lifelong passion - readers may change the *type*
of material they read, but never *stop* reading...

Re: Nick's education.  I read somewhere that in the Middle Ages girls were
often educated more than their brothers (after all, reading was NOT a
valuable skill unless you were intended for the church), so it is possible
that Fleur was better educated than Nick.  This would be especially true if
she had been educated in a convent, or her family had ever considered
dedicating her to a nunnery.  Nick's knightly training, on the other hand,
would have begun at the age of seven, been highly intensive, and not left
much time for learning irrelevant things such as literacy skills.  He might
have been taught to read in the vernacular, but he probably wouldn't have
learnt much beyond that.

I'll check out my books on medieval women on the weekend.

Christine Hawkins
c.hawkins@n.......
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Date:         Fri, 12 Apr 1996 01:39:34 -0400
From:         Jamie Melody Randell <immajer@p.......>
Subject:      Re: Decapitation vs. squooshing (was: Re: Stuff)

On Apr 11, 1996 23:15:14, 'Dotti Rhodes <dottir@w.......>' wrote:


>Seems to be that in Dark Knight LaCroix comes after Nick wielding a meat
>cleaver saying something about the ways a vampire can be killed, "fire,
>stake thru the heart and decapitation" as he tries to cut off Nick's head.

>So, I suppose that's canon - eh?

That would be canon, yeah.  :-)   (Things that make you go "duh!")

I have been whomped in the head; therefore, I forget stuff.  That is
Jamie-canon.  Right now, I am completely preoccupied with Remembering To
Buy A Bus Ticket To Toronto -- today is perhaps the third time that I have
*walked through the bus terminal* with money in my pocket, and never even
thought to purchase my ticket.  I am deeply afraid that somehow I will
actually FORGET to go to Toronto.  No, I'm not kidding. :-)

You want me to remember FK details?  Uh-uh.  That's what you guys are here
for.  :-)  This is embarrassing, tho', because Dark Knight is actually one
of the episodes that I remember with decent clarity... I'm pretty clear on
a lot of second season.  Some of third.  A little bit of first season.
Because I first saw FK *after* the head injury, not all of it 'took', so to
speak -- I've seen all the episodes; I just don't remember 'em.

Which is actually quite a wonderful thing; because as long as this
intermittent memory problem persists, I will ALWAYS have new episodes of FK
to watch.  (Think about it for a moment.  Uh-huh.)

In any case, I maintain that being squooshed is STILL not decapitation, and
need not -- necessarily -- cause death.  (And you thought I wasn't going to
bring this post back on-topic.)  Okay, you would figure, if the squooshed
vampire lands on a boardwalk ten minutes before dawn, he/she/it's in
trouble.  But if it landed on ashpalt, right after sunset...?

--
Jamie M.R. -- Asst. Listowner -- http://members.aol.com/immajer/
Illustrated Webgoddess & Keeper of Warm Fuzzies
"I may do what I have done.  I may smash the hollow rock
without breaking stride and splinter the glitter inside
all over a midnight street." -- L.F.
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Date:         Fri, 12 Apr 1996 02:21:10 EDT
From:         MS CHRISTINA L KAMNIKAR <VQRW76A@p.......>
Subject:      Merc Central (was: Re: Eyebrows..etc.)

Sandra, you poor delusional thing, you, :>

Bruce was dreaming, remember? That segment got ruled non-real (well, as far
as REAL goes in a War) 'cause we were all out rescuing Dianne at the time.

That was a bad dream Jamie (the Cousin, soon-to-be Merc, later
Natpacker/Merc, and not-yet-an-official-WebGoddess) had, brought on by too
much pixie dust and chocolate. The weapons charges, on the other hand, WERE
real, although we managed to beat them before we left Toronto, and all
other charges of radio piracy and illegal arms-bearing (baring?) were
dropped before we split.

Thank the Gods of Profit for good lawyers. :)

I am anticipating attempted retribution with mingled apprehension and
wonder; but mostly, I plan on being too busy to be zapped during the next
War.  I have other fish to fry....

Allison said:

>Mercs: Merc Central, but we don't know where it is, do we??

Kinda. Sorta. Maybe. It's next to the BatCave... and if you can get Brucie
Wayne to tell you where that is, I'd LOVE to know.

        Although, I may be at CERK. The number for the request line is...

Christina, who should be writing something else entirely, but just couldn't
resist this particular thread... toying with it like a cat with a dead
mouse...                vqrw76a@p.......     ...555-CERK!
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Date:         Fri, 12 Apr 1996 01:47:50 -0500
From:         Lady Sushi <phoenix@i.......>
Subject:      Re: ordering the FK cd

>LOL! Visions of Nick receiving his "Eternal Champion" CD in the mail,
>ripping the wrapping off with his teeth, spitting it on the floor...

The plastic or his teeth?

Cousin "Susan" Phoenix, Camera Fanatic of the Thong Throng, Unnamed
phoenix@i.......
Tell me what that "sleep" thing is again?
**Do not pester vampyres, for you are chewy and good with ketchup.**
The Malkie Who Would Be A Pillow.
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Date:         Fri, 12 Apr 1996 03:03:26 -0400
From:         Lisa Payne <LMPayne@a.......>
Subject:      Triangles

  In the first, and especially the second, seasons
of Forever Knight, the characters formed a set of
triangles, each of which contained Nick.  (Forever
Who?)  We had the traditional "lovers" triangle of
Nick, Nat and Janette.  We had the flashback
vampires triangle of Nick, LaCroix and Janette.
We had the law-enforcement partners triangle of
Nick, Nat and Schanke.  We had the opposing-goals
-for-Nick's-life triangle of Nick, Nat and LaCroix.
We even had the different-ideas-of-good-police-
procedure triangle of Nick, Schanke and Cohen/
Stonetree.  These triangular character relationships
make it easier to write interesting stories about Nick,
since he appears in all of them.

In the third season, all those triangles have disappeared
except the Nick, Nat and LaCroix triangle.   You can
kind of put together a Nick, Vachon and LaCroix "boy
vampires" triangle, but we only see it used once, in
MBIAV.  Any triangle with Tracy in it (Nick-Tracy-Vachon?)
seems to have Tracy as the focus.  This year's best
episodes (NIQ especially) seem to use the old Nick-Nat-
LaCroix triangle left over from the two earlier seasons.
This season's relationships seem to be based on parallels:
Nick-Nat//Vachon-Tracy, Nick-LaCroix//Tracy-Daddy,
Vachon-Urs//LaCroix-Nick.  They're not as nifty as the
interlocking triangles were, and they seem to make it
harder to write interesting stories about the main character.  I
don't know how hard it would be to re-write the relation-
ships between the characters to interlock differently, but
it might make any possible fourth season easier to write for
if they did.

On a completely different note, the "Universe Next Door"
fiction challenge story I never finished had Sailor Tracy and
the Moonlight Knight vs. the evil forces of the Neg-LaCroix.

LMPayne@a.......
Last of the Scorpions
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Date:         Fri, 12 Apr 1996 03:54:00 -0400
From:         Jamie Melody Randell <immajer@p.......>
Subject:      Re: ordering the FK cd

On Apr 12, 1996 01:47:50, 'Lady Sushi <phoenix@i.......>' wrote:


>>LOL! Visions of Nick receiving his "Eternal Champion" CD in the mail,
>>ripping the wrapping off with his teeth, spitting it on the floor...
>
>The plastic or his teeth?

His teeth.  Nick is like that.

--
Jamie M.R. -- Asst. Listowner -- http://members.aol.com/immajer/
Illustrated Webgoddess & Keeper of Warm Fuzzies
Mercly Natpack AthCoS in search of the Almighty Bus Ticket to TO
and I promise, this is my LAST post until after I get some sleep!
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Date:         Fri, 12 Apr 1996 03:17:50 -0500
From:         Lady Sushi <phoenix@i.......>
Subject:      Re: Nick & LaCroix faction name

>> > That Will Be Trouble.
>Shouldn't we check with Cousin Lisa McDavid...? <g>
>Isn't that her personal tag line, taken from STF?
>(Still bucking for "The Prodigals"...)

Y'know, I'm really beginning to regret that I mentioned this...

...NOT.  But I am confused...

I must admit, though, every time I read "Prodigals", all I can think of is
the They Might Be Giants song, "Hot Cha".  We'll eat and drink the prodigal
son.

Er, I think I'll take that to JADFE now.  It didn't come over like that in
the song...

Cousin "Susan" Phoenix, Camera Fanatic of the Thong Throng, Unnamed
phoenix@i.......
Tell me what that "sleep" thing is again?
**Don't repeat yourself, and stop being redundant.**
The Malkie Who Would Be A Pillow.
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Date:         Fri, 12 Apr 1996 03:24:35 -0500
From:         Lady Sushi <phoenix@i.......>
Subject:      Re: Lacroix Eyebrow Faction

> I think they should be called the Cold Fuzzies <g>

Makes sense.

>But I also think anyone who actually joins this faction
>should seek professionally help... immediately!

I'm already stuck with professional help.  What if I decide to take part in
this special TV offer?

Cousin "Susan" Phoenix, Camera Fanatic of the Thong Throng, Unnamed
phoenix@i.......
Tell me what that "sleep" thing is again?
**Don't repeat yourself, and stop being redundant.**
The Malkie Who Would Be A Pillow.
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Date:         Fri, 12 Apr 1996 03:52:29 -0500
From:         Sandra Gray <TMP_HARKINS@d.......>
Subject:      Re: Decapitation vs. squooshing (was: Re: Stuff)

Jamie asked if there was any series canon on decapitation killing
FK vampires.  Well, in Dark Knight, LC himself mentions it as one
of four accepted methods (the others being fire, a stake through
the heart, and the sun).

--Sandra Gray, forever Knightie (up way too late writing)
--tmp_harkins@d.......
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Date:         Fri, 12 Apr 1996 04:01:39 -0500
From:         Lady Sushi <phoenix@i.......>
Subject:      Re: Decapitation vs. squooshing vs. acid(was: Re: Stuff)

Sandra Gray commented:

>Jamie asked if there was any series canon on decapitation killing
>FK vampires.  Well, in Dark Knight, LC himself mentions it as one
>of four accepted methods (the others being fire, a stake through
>the heart, and the sun).

At the risk of firing the canon, what about acid or general strong
chemicals?  Two other major types of burns are on here (sun, fire).
Technically, a good acid or alkaline makes the flesh dissolve into a puddley
mess.  If this completely engulfed a vampyre, would it kill him/her?  I
think so, just because of the massive damage it would cause and the fact
that the molecular structure would break down (please correct me if I'm
wrong.  i've only had one semester of chem).  This would not only destroy
the vampoyre, but the vampyric agent.

Agree?  Disagree?  Discuss, and I know you will...<eg>


Cousin "Susan" Phoenix, Camera Fanatic of the Thong Throng, Unnamed
phoenix@i.......
Tell me what that "sleep" thing is again?
**Don't repeat yourself, and stop being redundant.**
The Malkie Who Would Be A Pillow.
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Date:         Fri, 12 Apr 1996 02:45:35 -0800
From:         Steve Townsley <stownsley@a.......>
Subject:      Another stupid newbie question

I've only had the opportunity to see about half of the 'current' seasons
episodes, and have tried to read all the FAQs, but how did Nick and Natalie
meet, and how did he come to get a job as a cop? I'm assuming Natalie had
something to do with it, but I could be wrong (yea, it's happened  once or
twice).   =)

Thanks
--
Steve Townsley                                           stownsley@a.......
ACE Certified Personal Trainer, amateur bodybuilder, photojournalist
and possible Cousin (is it okay to be one and hate LC half the time?)
*******   "Man becomes great exactly to the degree to which he works
                    for the welfare of his fellow man."
-Mahatma Gandhi
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Date:         Fri, 12 Apr 1996 07:26:19 -0400
From:         Dotti Rhodes <dottir@w.......>
Subject:      Re: BRAZIL TURNS TO COW BLOOD TO FIGHT MALNUTRITION

At 12:36 AM 4/12/96 -0400, you wrote:
>
>snip...
>> proteins are the body's bricks and amino acids are the grains of sand
>> and clay making up those bricks." <----+
>                                         |
>You know what they say, Nick. "You are what you eat." <G>

ROTFL - coz it was funny. Now, coz I'm a Knightie - I'm after you.....
Dotti R
Knightie 4-Ever
dottir@w.......
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Date:         Fri, 12 Apr 1996 07:35:07 -0400
From:         Dotti Rhodes <dottir@w.......>
Subject:      Re: Question

At 10:37 PM 4/11/96 -0700, Amy wrote:
>
>And Nick wakes up sweating blood....

ROTFLMAO!! And the Disney chorus strikes up with "For True Love Conquers
All....
Dotti R
Knightie 4-Ever
dottir@w.......
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Date:         Fri, 12 Apr 1996 07:35:14 -0400
From:         Dotti Rhodes <dottir@w.......>
Subject:      Re: Literacy?

At 10:13 PM 4/11/96 -0700, Amy wrote:
>
>
>However, wouldn't that imply that Nick and Fleur had half-siblings?  If
>so, why would Nick be so concerned with Fleur carrying on the family
>line?  I don't mean to disparage his regard for his mother, but wouldn't
>those half-siblings be enough for the future of the family?

First of all, you're assuming that the writer's spent as much time
researching or are as smart as you guys are (not a chance) and knew the
things that you guys do. Obviously they didn't, or they just assumed no one
would pay enough attention to look further into it. See , you guys are just
too smart - you're the bane of tv's existence.  TV execs, etc. write for the
great unwashed most of the time and don't expect the level of intelligence
that is on this list. There you go girls!!!!

Dotti R
Knightie 4-Ever
dottir@w.......
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