FORKNI-L
Logfile LOG9604B Part 15
April 11-April 12, 1996
File: "FORKNI-L LOG9604B" Part 15
TOPICS:
Knightie Vampiric Balance
Best Immortal Beloved Moments (3)
NATPE bags, money, and Dian(n)es
FICTION NEEDED
Spoiler: HF, Re: Every 54 years (2)
vampiric bodies
SoB (2)
Houston Party
FOREVER KNIGHT Compendium
Literacy? (6)
LaCroix Question... (5)
LaCroix and Nick as readers
LaCroix's eyebrows
Nick & LaCroix faction name (2)
Blooper tape!!
Not quite FK, but.....
Queen of Harps
Eyebrows & Faction Hang-outs
No subject
YKY..and 2 more questions..:)
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 07:52:24 -0600
From: "Heather Rigby (Goldeneyes)" <Z_RIGBYHA@t.......>
Subject: Re: Knightie Vampiric Balance
>>Anyone interested in forming a faction for LaCroix's eyebrows?
>:) It could be called the "Furries." ;)
Naw. Call 'em "Fuzzies". As in "Fuzzy-Wuzzy was a..." or those adorable
little foot-tall sapient beings with a sense of taste from Heck and a
preoccupation with fun and being cared for. (see "Little Fuzzy" by H. Beam
Piper if you don't get this, or email me.)
Ooh, ooh, I know "Fuzzy-Wuzzy was a Vampire..."
>--Sandra Gray, forever Knightie
>--tmp_harkins@d.......
>"A penny for your thoughts. Twenty bucks to act them out."--shirt
>slogan (for Mercs ;) )
Heather (Goldeneyes)
z_rigbyha@t.......
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 09:04:17 -0400
From: Katja Stokley <cstokley@c.......>
Subject: Re: Best Immortal Beloved Moments
Last Act: Janette and Nick by the lake.
Katja Stokley -*- cstokley@g.......
-*- Enter any 12 digit prime number to continue -*-
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 06:08:50 -0700
From: Jackie <ejdjd@i.......>
Subject: Re: NATPE bags, money, and Dian(n)es
At 04:33 PM 3/31/96 -0600, you wrote:
>Your envelope will be mailed Monday.
Hi Diane:
Just a fast note to let you know I have *not* received anything as
of today - the 11th of April - did you send it out yet?
Jackie
Support your local Attorney....Send your kid to Medical School!
ejdjd@i.......
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 09:40:00 EDT
From: "L. M. Salopek" <LMS5@p.......>
Subject: FICTION NEEDED
I need fictional stories based on the FK characters.
These stories (I doubt I'll receive so many that I'll have to leave any out :-)
Will be published in a zine to be sold at the FK Con being held in San Fransico
in October. All money raise from sold copies will go to charity.
Guidelines: 1. Content must be G or PG. 2. Electronic submissions only (I won't
have the time to retype anything!) 3. Formats: Word (Mac, IBM), WordPerfect or
plain text. Please write on the disk which format it is and include a 3"x5"
card with the title of your piece, your name and address (including email).
If I receive a disk WITHOUT this card, I will NOT consider the story.
I'm also willing to accept illustrations for this zine. All drawings must be
black and white (no pencil, no color). I will NOT return a drawing unless you
include an SASE with it (same for stories on disk). I prefer a digitized
version of your image, but I do have a scanner.
I will be putting the zine together using MSPub, therefore, if you send
all your submission in electronic format, it will help me out A LOT!!
Don't forget to spellcheck your story. I won't. I'm organizing and putting this
together. It is your responsibility to make sure you submit a polished piece.
Please, post this request around the Internet.
Send submission to:
Snailmail: Email (attached files NO IMAGES):
Laurie Salopek lupino@a.......
FK Story/Illustration
000 Xxxxxxxx Xxx #000
Xxxxx Xxxxxxx, XX 00000
***** DEADLINE FOR SUBMISSIONS IS JULY 15, 1996 ******
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 09:53:18 -0400
From: Matthew F Funke <mff@h.......>
Subject: Re: Spoiler: HF, Re: Every 54 years
> I'd just like to think that a vampires metabolism is
> very 'efficient' and that all ingested blood is used for the enrgy
> requirements of that particular vampire.
Right, right. I just was trying to explain that mass doesn't have
to remain mass, thus eliminating (no pun intended) the need for liquid
ingested to have to be expelled. Maybe it disappears in an Einsteinian
way, or maybe it disappears in a way yet to be explained by (or perhaps
unexplainable by) physics. Sorry to get hip-deep in the tech stuff.
-- Lost in the Shadows,
Dr Funke (mff@h.......)
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 07:21:13 -0700
From: Cynthia Hoffman <choff@v.......>
Subject: Re: Best Immortal Beloved Moments
On Thu, 11 Apr 1996, Katja Stokley wrote:
> Last Act: Janette and Nick by the lake.
Huh?
Methinks thou meanest Crazy Love, yes?
Cynthia
Cynthia Hoffman, Proud Raven
choff@v.......
Surely you are old enough by now to understand the difference between
"not guilty" and "innocent." Janette, Fate Worse than Death
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 10:20:44 -0400
From: Carrie Krumtum <CKrumtum@g.......>
Subject: Re: Spoiler: HF, Re: Every 54 years
Dr. Funke wrote:
> Sorry to get hip-deep in the tech stuff.
No problem. I just have to guard my grey matter from system overload. :)
You keep up the tech stuff and I'll keep my simple minded ways. Who knows,
the middle ground might just be the place where the truth lies about all this
stuff. Just think of the money we could make off of all these fans if we
actually figured it all out. We could write a book. We might even be famous.
I might even get to meet Ger and Nigel and Catherine and...
Okay, I'll go away now...
:)
Carrie, Proud Knightie
CKrumtum@g.......
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 10:34:57 EDT
From: Tanya Smith <bodybldr@v.......>
Subject: Best Immortal Beloved Moments
1) Nick relapses, goes to the Raven and screws an unknown female vampire
(Wait...hasn't that happened already?)
2) Lacroix falls in love...with anybody besides himself. Perhaps another
Fleur comes into his life and THEY sit by the lake. (How refreshing...like
#1 above)
3) Lacroix and Nicholas, after living centuries in denial, finally come out
of the closet and THEY...er...by the lake (could be very interesting.)
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 11:57:16 EDT
From: Ian Curtis <102425.1537@c.......>
Subject: Re: vampiric bodies
>heartbeat about once every ten minutes (I Will Repay). Given that a human's
>average resting pulse tends to run in the seventy beats per minute range,
>that means the human-to-vampire bodily function ratio would be
>approximately 700 to 1.
I dunno, In most Vampire stuff that I've read, the internal organs with
the exception of the heart, atrophy due to lack of use. seeing that vampires
also have no discernable pulse, I don't imagine that a vampire would have to
put up with those annoying bodily cycles, since their dead. maybe i've been
playing the masquerade a bit to much, I've never opened up MY chest to figure
it out!
-- Ian Curtis
Malkavian Monitor of Toronto
"Children of the Night...SHUT UP!!"
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 11:15:16 CDT
From: Bruce Rawitch <brucer@i.......>
Subject: Re: SoB
On Mon, 8 Apr 1996, Elizabeth Ann Lewis wrote:
> Because Nick was hallucinating, like he was when bottles of blood flew all
> over the loft and gook started coming up out of the sink (Liquid Plummer,
> Nick?)
Well, this must have been a fairly convincing illusion, since Nat came in and
had to step around the puddles of blood and broken glass all around the loft...
;)
Just my .02
Bruce
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 12:35:50 -0500
From: Mary Gilbert <mcg3390@g.......>
Subject: Houston Party
Just a quick reminder that there's a FK party in the Houston area this
Saturday the 13th. I Live in the Clear lake area. It will start at 5:00pm
till when ever. Cousin Cherri will be here from California. For directions
please e-mail me at
mcg3390@g.......
Cousin Mary G.
Cousion to the core!
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 09:22:29 -0500
From: Bea Quindlen <ocaoin@e.......>
Subject: Re: FOREVER KNIGHT Compendium
Not necessarily an endorsement but...
James Van Hise has books of this sort out already - check the TV section of
large
book stores. I can't remember what shows he has done but I recognized his name
while browsing one time. He's been involverd in fansdoms for years - I
remember him as a dealer years ago at the ShoreLeave (Trek) conventions in
Maryland.
Bea
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 11:08:06 -0700
From: AKR <r@w.......>
Subject: Literacy?
I'm feeling awfully Cousinly this morning.
(Probably an aftereffect of reading Marina's marvelous "Only Solution")
In any case, it suddenly hit me that Nick doesn't read much.
LC's wide experience of literature is evident in every Nightcrawler
monologue. Nat has multiple bookcases crammed full of books.
Nick has a big screen TV.
Off the top of my head, the only books I can prove Nick has read are
vampire novels (STF) and the Bible (SoB). I think he put a book down
when he answered the door in C&C, but as that was his "guilt trip to
Wonderland," even the book was probably a manifestation of one of his
inadequacies. What's the point of eternal life if you aren't going to
use it to *read*?
As I began mentally condemning Nick's current lack of taste, I
wondered if he knew how to read when LC brought him over. Janette
probably would not have... and I assume LC taught her. (Fanfic?)
Fleur was reading in that lovely scene in BMV.
Is there anything on this? Can you recall any instances of our
characters reading? I know that Nick has had to study to hold some of
the jobs he has in the past, but as reading is an absolute value for me,
I'm curious about his attitude, and how it may or may not have evolved
over the centuries. I'd also like to know what Janette reads...
***** Amy, Lady of the Knight (AKR) r@w....... *****
Bright Knightie, Light Cousin, Fleur-Booster, (Im)Mortal Beloved
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 15:01:59 EDT
From: Tanya Smith <bodybldr@v.......>
Subject: Literacy?
I believe personal depth is directly related to how much information one
consumes, and when I say information, I mean quality information (forget
T.V. except for FK, Star Trek, X-Files and Highlander). Information can
be accumulated in a variety of ways: reading, listening, observing are some.
Then there is information gathered by the 6th sense: instinctual information,
or "intuition".
Bards used to sing tales, and in Biblical times, priests would read to their
congregations, who could not read.
Evidentally, Lacroix was orginially from the bourgeois class since the
only people who were able to read in his time were noblemen and laymen.
He might have taught Nick.
Nick, although he does not show an affinity for the written word, has a
great deal of cumulative information. He seems to be a more spiritual
creature (driven by angst) while Lacroix is a more cognitive creature
(driven by logic).
The fact that Nick does not read does not deprive him of personal depth.
In fact, I think Nick is the most complex character on the show (barring
Lacroix' occasional inconsistencies).
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 12:18:11 -0700
From: Kathy L <kathryn@u.......>
Subject: LaCroix Question...
Hi All
Don't mean to take up bandwidth, here, but this is driving me crazy. In
one of the 3rd season eps, LaCroix says to Nick,
"[?] is not a word I believe I've heard you use before....It is not a
word that I *like*."
As much as I'd love to go rewatch all my taped eps to find this, I just
don't have the time. Anybody remember what it was?
Kathy
kathryn@u.......
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 14:15:11 CDT
From: L'Phantom <jrarmstr@p.......>
Subject: Re: Literacy?
Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but Nick holds several degrees, doesn't he?
Things that he didn't necessarily *need* (like Archaeology), but which he
voluntarily studied. This implies to me a love of research and reading, as, in
the case of archaeology, much of the time is spent in libraries reading dusty
old books.
As for whether or not Nick could read in 1228; it would depend on whether it
was the common custom for the soldiers to be educated. On an offhand guess,
I'd say no, but I have no evidence to back that up.
Straying from your mind into your left shoulder, just coz I can,
The "New and Improved" L'Phantom
Now a Cousin in full standing!
http://bsc.edu/~jrarmstr/
Help Save Forever Knight! Ask me how! jrarmstr@b.......
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 14:19:30 -0500
From: Sandra Gray <TMP_HARKINS@d.......>
Subject: Re: SoB
Bruce Rawitch writes:
>Well, this must have been a fairly convincing illusion, since Nat
>came in and had to step around the puddles of blood and broken glass
>all around the loft...
I was watching SoB yesterday (mostly to check out that Nick in the
Raven scene ;) and the tag) and Nat is only actually shown stepping
around one broken bottle on the floor. During the "poltergeist"
activity, Nick had an actual bottle he'd taken from the fridge in
his hand that he dropped on the floor. IOW, they didn't actually
show any of the results of the "poltergeist" activity (the broken
piano strings, the sink, etc.) in the scene where Nat enters the
loft. So I guess it *is* possible for someone to make a case that
it was all the strange stuff that was happening to Nick in the loft
didn't really happen.
Personally, though, I don't think it was an illusion. It certainly
didn't look like illusion Nick's telekinetic "casting off" of LC
and Vanderwaal during his exorcism, or the slamming of the door
behind Nat when she entered (which she *did* notice). But there
does appear to be an ambiguity that could cast the loft activity
as possibly not being real for some people.
I did *not* see LC make the raised hand hypno move that he made with
Vanderwaal with the female vamp though, nor was there any change in
his voice when he told her not to say anything about it. So I would
say that she was actually a vampire and not a mortal.
--Sandra Gray, forever Knightie
--tmp_harkins@d.......
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 13:26:21 -0600
From: Dorothy Elggren <delggren@m.......>
Subject: Re: LaCroix Question...
Kathy asks about the quote from LaCroix to Nick. I can't remember the
word either, but it takes place in Trophy Girl during the flashback. It's
in reference to the fact that LC is not going to bring the girl across
but just have dinner.
In fact that's the ep that USA is showing tonight.
Dorothy
delggren@e.......
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 15:28:35 EDT
From: Lisa McDavid <D020214@u.......>
Subject: LaCroix and Nick as readers
Actually we discovered last season in A More Permanent Hell that LaCroix
was originally a Roman general who became a vampire in 79 A.D. So, yes,
he could read as a mortal and he was almost certainly from the upper
classes.
Nick probably could read as a mortal. You see, if Fleur could read,
then the family must have been of very high rank, possibly even relatives
of the Duke of Brabant. Usually 13th century women weren't literate
unless they were royalty or educated to be nuns. The treatise Fleur
was reading on astronomy was probably in Latin, so she was exceptionally
well educated for her time and place.
If the family was of such status that a daughter was taught to read
and taught Latin, then most likely the sons would be too. Thus, imho,
it follows that Nick could read before he was brought over.
I can't remember off hand a scene with Nick reading just to be
reading, but there may be one.
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 14:47:15 -0600
From: Amy Denton <Z_DENTONAM@t.......>
Subject: LaCroix's eyebrows
Whoever started this you should be a Knightie!!
>>>Anyone interested in forming a faction for LaCroix's eyebrows?
First, Sandra:
>>:) It could be called the "Furries." ;)
Then Heather:
>Naw. Call 'em "Fuzzies". As in "Fuzzy-Wuzzy was a..."
>Ooh, ooh, I know "Fuzzy-Wuzzy was a Vampire..."
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ LOL!!!
Now me (Amy D.):
How about the Bert's (as in Bert and Ernie) Anyone ever notice that LaCroix's
eyebrows bear a striking resembelence to Bert's? :)
Or the old favorite: The Q-TIP's! <heheheheh>
Gee, this is fun.
>>--Sandra Gray, forever Knightie
>>--tmp_harkins@d.......
>Heather (Goldeneyes)
>z_rigbyha@t.......
Amy D.
z_dentonam@t.......
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 13:00:23 -0700
From: Kathy L <kathryn@u.......>
Subject: Re: LaCroix Question...
On Thu, 11 Apr 1996, AKR wrote:
> "Tragedy." The word is "tragedy." Flashback of "Trophy Girl."
> :)
> ***** Amy, Lady of the Knight (AKR) r@w....... *****
> Bright Knightie, Light Cousin, Fleur-Booster, (Im)Mortal Beloved
>
Thanks Amy! I thought that was it. I just watched BM last night and
when LaCroix tells Nick that 'material wealth brings only tragedy' (or
something like that) it kind of struck me as funny to hear him using it
when he chews Nick out for it in a later ep. (Continuity, anyone?)
Kathy
kathryn@u.......
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 16:03:38 -0400
From: Allison Percy <percy91@w.......>
Subject: Re: Nick & LaCroix faction name
Lisa Payne <LMPayne@a.......> said:
> I have a suggestion for the Nick & LaCroix fraction name:
>
> That Will Be Trouble.
Perfect!
Faction members would be "The Troubled." It captures the essence of the
Nick/LC relationship! And it doesn't say anything about whether you think
the two of them have a father/son relationship, a sexual relationship, a
mutual hate relationship, or all of the above. So people who hold
different opinions on this could still belong to the same faction.
Now, I can only imagine the fights that will break out among The Troubled
when they try to discuss the nature of the Nick/LC relationship.
That Will Be Trouble. <g>
Do we have a winner yet? Has it ever taken this long to come up with an
acceptable faction name??
* Allison Percy, a perky Knightie percy91@w....... *
* Shrewthering info: http://assets.wharton.upenn.edu/~percy91/shrew.html *
* Bouncing up & down on the teeter-totter of Knightie vampiric balance *
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 16:01:34 E
From: Debra Ann Fiorini <fiorini@m.......>
Subject: Re: Literacy?
>As for whether or not Nick could read in 1228; it would depend on
>whether it was the common custom for the soldiers to be educated.
>On an offhand guess, I'd say no, but I have no evidence to back that up.
Most likely, soldiers in 1228 could not read.
However, Nick was from a wealthy (looking) family and his
little sister could read.
So, if the family was dedicated enough to education to
allow little sister to be educated, it most likely
big brother was educated and could read as well.
Why would a family in 1228 allow the younger sister to be
educated if it wasn't important enough for the older
brother as well?
Debra Ann
Guenvier@a.......
or
fiorini@a.......
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 22:08:15 +0200
From: Marina Bailey <tmar@o.......>
Subject: Re: LaCroix Question...
Kathy L wrote:
Ka> In one of the 3rd season eps, LaCroix says to Nick,
Ka> "[?] is not a word I believe I've heard you use before....It is not a
Ka> word that I *like*."
Ka> Anybody remember what it was?
"Tragedy", I think. From "Trophy Girl", because at the end of the episode
when Rosebud is communing with the serial killers or whomever, he writes
something to the Hannibal Lector clone about, "Not having you in our forum
would have been a _tragedy_", with a rather evil, self-satisfied look on his
face. A good part, that.
- Marina.
\\ "And tell me if you want to catch that feeling of redemption; //
// That feeling of redemption don't do much for me." - Tanita Tikaram \\
\\======Marina Bailey========tmar@f.......=======Dark Knightie======//
... Sisko never once spoke over subspace while wearing pyjamas.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 13:26:38 -0700
From: Kathy L <kathryn@u.......>
Subject: Re: LaCroix Question...
On Thu, 11 Apr 1996, Marina Bailey wrote:
> Ka> "[?] is not a word I believe I've heard you use before....It is not a
> Ka> word that I *like*."
>
> "Tragedy", I think. From "Trophy Girl", because at the end of the episode
> when Rosebud is communing with the serial killers or whomever, he writes
> something to the Hannibal Lector clone about, "Not having you in our forum
> would have been a _tragedy_", with a rather evil, self-satisfied look on his
> face. A good part, that.
>
Ooh! Totally missed that last part - time to rev up the ol' VCR!
Thanks,
Kathy
kathryn@u.......
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 16:45:03 -0400
From: Samantha Smiley <MaraJade00@a.......>
Subject: Blooper tape!!
Would someone tell me how I can get a hold of the Forever Knight blooper
tape? Or better yet, if someone has it could they send it to me? We may be
able to work something out. Thank you!
Jade(Samantha S.)- Yep, the S. is for Smiley! :)
Mercenary recruit/Cousin/And any twisted love triangle you can think of...
"Catalina Island is like a mini Caribbean!!"-ME! Catalina Island, CA USA
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 16:46:00 EDT
From: "L. M. Salopek" <LMS5@p.......>
Subject: Not quite FK, but.....
I hope you all don't mind, but I know there are quite a few of you out there
maybe not so interested in Anne Rice, but interested in a role in a movie
based on her books....
- - The original note follows - -
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 00:49:37 -0400
Sender: About Anne Rice <ANNERICE@p.......>
From: Britton Trice <BETbooks@a.......>
Subject: Notice from Anne Rice
To: Multiple recipients of list ANNERICE <ANNERICE@p.......>
Anne Rice has asked me to post the following message.
*************************************************
From: Christine Cuddy, Attorney at Law
Representing author Anne Rice
We have been advised that a person known as John Crist, aka J.D.
Williams, aka John Michaels, et al, doing business as Shiloh Photography, et
al, has been purporting to act as a representative of Anne Rice, and using
Ms. Rice's name to persuade women to pose for photographs. Please be advised
that Anne Rice has not authorized this person to act on her behalf in any
way, and specifically has not authorized him to act on her behalf in
conection with the casting of any motion pictures based on her novels. Any
document which indicates otherwise is not authentic.
If you have had contact with this person in relation to this matter,
please contact Christine Cuddy at 000-000-0000.
*************************************************
Thanks for your help in this matter.
Britton Trice
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ObFK: I got the RIPPLES!! :-) Heehee, I finally got the ripples in the wine
to work in 'Memories'. Someday I'll finish it... I hope... I hope... I hope..
Laurie
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 13:50:04 -0700
From: Valery King <kingv@u.......>
Subject: Re: Queen of Harps
I'm moving this to the regular list, since QoH is not under spoiler
protection and that's the point I'm addressing in this message.
On Thu, 11 Apr 1996, Katja Stokley wrote:
> It *is* the present day he looks bad in in Queen of Harps. He *steals*
> the harp from the auction house because he wants it so badly. I took that
> as evidence that in the first and second seasons he doesn't strictly play
> by mortal rules, that he still feels justified in taking what he wants
I realise that "canon" in FK is what we see on the screen. However (as
has been briefly aluded to already today on this list--sorry, can't
remember who--Lisa McD, maybe?), there were supposed to be sound effects
that made it clear that the harp was magically compelling Nick to do these
things, which either through someone's decision after filming to play
down the magic stuff or the sound effects guys not getting the word, were
not put in the final version. (This is a Gillian Horvath script, and she
*did* tell us that that's what she had in mind!)
When you know this, Nick's actions really don't look that bad. I was glad
to have that cleared up by the writer, because my view of Nick did not
include that kind of utter disregard of rules, morals (not to steal, and
not to get innocent people like that archaeologist in trouble) and his
friends' feelings that we saw, and it made me unhappy and upset.
--Valery
kingv@u.......
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 16:17:32 -0500
From: patrick kortner aiex <paiex@i.......>
Subject: Literacy?
Gang:
Remember, people. Our Nicholas is minor nobility -- the de Brabants.
As such, minor nobility typically knew how to read, if only a little bit. And
since Nick seems to be rather well-educated in flashbacks to that period, it
is my NSHO that he *did* know how to read.
Typically, only clergy and nobility knew how to read back then, with
heavy emphasis on the clergy. If peasantry knew how to read, this contrvened
an unwritten law that peasantry should *remain* illiterate!
Pat -- Lone Nanette, ah, you know what I am
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 16:39:24 -0500
From: Sandra Gray <TMP_HARKINS@d.......>
Subject: Re: Literacy?
Of course the fact that Nick's family made sure their children
were educated (and I don't see any reason why Fleur would have been
taught to read and Nick not have been similarly taught), that
doesn't necessarily mean Nick *liked* reading. They are two different
things. Nick's free time seems more given over to art and music to
me.
--Sandra Gray, forever Knightie
--tmp_harkins@d.......
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 17:46:07 -0400
From: Allison Percy <percy91@w.......>
Subject: Eyebrows & Faction Hang-outs
Amy Denton <Z_DENTONAM@t.......> said:
> Whoever started this you should be a Knightie!!
> >>>Anyone interested in forming a faction for LaCroix's eyebrows?
That would be me. <g> And yes, I am. <bg>
As for the members of the Eyebrown Faction (Furries? Fuzzy-Wuzzies? I
thought Fuzzy-Wuzzies were members of the Warm Fuzzy faction?!?) -- where
would they reside in the next fanfic War? The Knighties have the loft,
the FoDs have the Happy Souvlaki deli, last I heard the Mercs were holding
CERK....
Hmmm, with all these new factions, we're going to have to think of
appropriate places for everyone to stay in the next war.
Knighties: Nick's loft
Dark Knighties: Also in Nick's loft, but busy switching all his cow
blood for human blood.
Ravens/Ravenettes: I suppose they'll kick the Cousins out of the Raven
again!
Cousins: Oh, who knows. Maybe at CERK, once they boot out the Mercs.
Light Cousins: I think LaCroix himself will drain these guys dry within
24 hours of the start of the next war, so I'm not worried about where
they'll stay. ;^)
FoDs: Happy Souvlaki Deli
Mercs: Merc Central, but we don't really know where that is, do we??
Die-Hards: Don't they have a command center somewhere?
NatPackers: Nat's place, or at the morgue (creepy!).
RatPackers: Screed's old sewer.
Perkulators: With Tracy, of course.
Reese's Pieces: I'm thinking they'll stay in the precinct, but they'll
bring their own water supply.
FoSsiLs: Nat's apartment, curled up on top of one of her bookcases.
Woofpackers (followers of Perry the vampire dog): In a doghouse.
Caddy-Lackeys (the Caddy's faction): The trunk of the Caddy -- I don't
*care* if the real Caddies were sold -- the Caddy still lives in Nick's
garage as far as I'm concerned!!!
Eyebrow Faction: LaCroix's dressing room (with easy access to his makeup
kit)
Fuzzy-Wuzzies (the Warm Fuzzy faction): Stuck to various refrigerators
with magnets.
Couples factions would switch off between the hang-outs of their two
favorites:
Nick&Natpackers
Immortal Beloveds
Valentines
Seducers
LaCroissants
The Troubled
etc.
We'll all see, I guess, whenever the next War comes around!
* Allison Percy, a perky Knightie percy91@w....... *
* Shrewthering info: http://assets.wharton.upenn.edu/~percy91/shrew.html *
* Anyone interested in forming a faction for LaCroix's eyebrows? *
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 14:48:01 -0700
From: AKR <r@w.......>
Subject: Re: Nick & LaCroix faction name
> > I have a suggestion for the Nick & LaCroix fraction name:
> > That Will Be Trouble.
Shouldn't we check with Cousin Lisa McDavid...? <g>
Isn't that her personal tag line, taken from STF?
(Still bucking for "The Prodigals"...)
***** Amy, Lady of the Knight (AKR) r@w....... *****
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 17:56:54 -0400
From: "Meredith E. Pickering" <Plan2@a.......>
Subject: No subject
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Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 00:03:43 GMT
From: Anne Toole <AMELY@a.......>
Subject: YKY..and 2 more questions..:)
YKY...blah blah blah
You're watching X-Files (Yay!!) in Egypt, and even though you haven't
seen X-Files in FORever, you are seriously distracted from the plot
when good ol' Cap Reese shows up as guest star (Blu Mankuma, right?).
It apparently was a first season of that show...Scully was writing
something dated Oct 1993, anyway, and it's the episode with the
sentient computer, which I'm sure you've all mentioned before.
As for the case of the returning questions:
1.Does *any*one know where the archives for this list are? I assume I could
get them from the listserv, but how far back do they go? The really old ones
are on someone's disks, right?
2.People were talking, oh, I'd say a week or two ago, about how Nick was
LaCroix's favorite, and that Janette was always second best, in a way. I
think, however, that this view of Janette and Nick's relation is somewhat
skewed in the sense that the show is basically from Nick's point of view.
Sure, sometimes we see other vampires flashbacks, etc, that Nick wouldn't know,
but the show is about Nick's quest for redemption, so the writers et al would
skew it towards Nick. So to what extent do you think this viewpoint affects
our take on Janette and LaCroix's relationship vs. Nick and LC's? If you
think Janette is still 2nd to Nick in LC's eyes, do you think Janette has
encouraged this trend to gain more freedom, or that it is merely because Nick
rebels and she basically hasn't? On a related note, I really think Janette
is the strongest character on the show, well was, anyway. I can't really
say much more about it, tho, since I haven't seen HF, so I might completely
change my mind, but I doubt it. Anyway, it seems that people don't often
see the difficulty of her position and the strength she must have had to
maintain it. But I digress from what my question was, anyway...
-Anne, the Green Merc
amely@a.......
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