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Logfile LOG9604B Part 7

April 8-April 9, 1996

File: "FORKNI-L LOG9604B" Part 7

	Prince Nick (was Re: Is Nick a snob?)  (4)
	Liking 3rd Season  (2)
	BB Questions  (3)
	FK CD  (2)
	FK CD-What CD?  (2)
	"Geraint" on the web!
	I GOT the FK CD!!!!!!
	NC or WI?
	Turning Point
	Nick&Nat Manifesto (long)
	Bad Nick, Good Nick  (2)
	Uncle's 3rd Season Looks
	I got my CD! I got my CD!!!
	best things in early 3rd season eps  (3)
	IB best moment
	Tracy is Nick Jr.

Date:         Mon, 8 Apr 1996 16:16:02 -2055
From:         "L. Katherine Queen" <lqueen@p.......>
Subject:      Re: Prince Nick (was Re: Is Nick a snob?)

Sandra Gray writes:
> But I think it was
>more to protect *LC's* reputation and she complied with his "request"
>out of fear of what he'd do to her if she didn't.  LC didn't want it
>to get around that Nick would act so uncontrollably.

>>Could LC's have been protecting Nick from the enforcers?  I have gotten
>>the impression that they might frown on a vamp that had gone out of
>>control, fearing that he might expose them.

Katherine, of the newly Knighted
"I'm afraid to be here.  But not afraid enough to leave."
Date:         Mon, 8 Apr 1996 20:20:54 -0400
From:         Sharon Bhandari <sbhanda@e.......>
Subject:      Liking 3rd Season

Couldn't resist since most of the episodes I have seen are from this

BB1&2: Nick and Nat hugging after he escapes from the burning building.
Screed asking Nick if he is an Enforcer. I couldn't stop laughing.

OtL: Tracy's shock when she tries to talk to the prostitutes.
By the Way, wasn't the guy who played Tracy's cop friend who didn't get
 along with Nick on some first season episode of Highlander?

Blackwing:  Marion Blackwing's uncle.  Got to love his sense of humor in
an uneasy(ok, that is an understatement) situation.  One thing about this
show, they get wonderful and memorable people to play each part.

MBiaV: Poor cornered Tracy in the audience of the show.  "They should get
help" (I think that was the line. Something close to that).  And
the way Natalie tries to mask her interest in the show.

HoD:  The development of Urs' character.  Nat measuring Nick's teeth.

Trophy Girl:  Vachon's jealousy: getting rid of Tracy's "date."
He tries to act so innocent.

LNMTA: Nick laying his forehead on Nat's after he has saved her.  Also,
Nick saying that he likes the whole package.

NiQ: So many!  That incredibly cute, boyish, and human look on his face
when he has no idea that he is anything but human.  If that is what
LaCroix saw in him, it's no wonder he wanted Nick.  Natalie and LaCroix
interaction.  Natalie being the only one laughing when she sees Nick eat
the soup.  LaCroix's hand caressing the doctor's (Not Nat, the one in the
ER) neck as he is hypnotizing her.

SoB:  Everything.  Especially Nick listening to Natalie's heartbeat while
hoding her face close to his in the end.

Strings: Tracy being the only one who has heard of Christy Black.

That's it!  The rest are in Spoiler territory.

Sharon Bhandari
Natpacker and Valentine.
Date:         Mon, 8 Apr 1996 16:44:22 -0800
From:         John Soo-Hoo <galahad!jsoohoo@n.......>
Subject:      Re: BB Questions

Sandra write:
>Stephanie writes:
>>[snip] If the ordinary human goes to the little room six times a day,
>>then by extrapolation, a vampire would go once every four months or

>LOL! :)  Then, gee, doesn't Nick *sweat* an awful lot? ;)

The guy sweats blood!

>Seriously, someone posted once that highly trained athletes have a
>lower heart rate than your ordinary Joe.  So maybe vampires just have
>a more efficient heart rate yet.

No, vampires are just undead.  :)
Date:         Mon, 8 Apr 1996 17:35:23 -0700
From:         Denise Underwood <ithildin@m.......>
Subject:      Re: FK CD

I did not get mine either  :(  Although since my last name starts with a
"U" I usually am the last to get things that are mailed, and since I
live in Calif that must be it. I haunted my mailbox today as I was home
sick, but no luck. Maybe tomorrow, I can't wait!!

YNYBWTMFKW.... You are buying shoes at Macy's and at the Bandalino
display you do a double take upon seeing the sale sign "UNCLE, now only
$49.00" ! And you think, I didn't know he was for sale? Sold!
Date:         Mon, 8 Apr 1996 20:38:35 -0400
From:         Janette Z <Janette92@a.......>
Subject:      Re: Bye!!!!

In a message dated 96-04-07 20:09:53 EDT, you write:

>I don't think I was on the original list, but I'd love a copy.  What do I
>have to do?

   I've attached the info you'll need to this post :)  You're just lucky I
haven't figured out HOW to set this list to no mail!!!  There is a REASON I'm
sending this to the entire list, so many people have asked for the info, it's
driving me NUTS!!!  So, if you want the information, just download it, if
not... well, DON'T!  Ciao!

Ravenette, Immortal Beloved,
Seducer, CO-CFW for Evil
MacLeod, Richie Reservist,


     If you are recieving this message you have had the good taste to request
information on the Nightcrawler tape.  (Okay that sounded a bit like a
professional there, but I was having fun!!!)  The information is below along
with several things I feel you should know before you give me any money!!!

!)  This is AMATUER!!!!!  I am in NO WAY a professional tape-type person, and
this is not being sold in any type of mass way.  So you can't go to stores
everywhere and ask "Yes, may I have the Nightcrawler tape produced by Janette
Zeitler records?"  (I wish!!!)

2)  Not only is this amatuer, but it's amatuerly done.  Picture, if you will,
myself holding a tape-recorder as close to I can next to the speaker
fast-forwarding through tape after tape during the weekends searching for
Uncle's radio shows.  That is what you will be receiving, so if you don't
like it don't order it!!!  The background may have a SMALL bit of static in
it, but very little and Uncle is still VERY hearable.

3)  I am not getting ANY MONEY FOR THIS!!!!!  All you have to do is send me
$700.00, whoops.  I *meant* to say all you have to do is send me $7.00 to my
address listed below, No COD, or credit cards!!! <g> for shipping.  If I do
receive, say a dollar for it, it's purely un-intended!!!  I am not trying to
make money, or steal rights from anyone or do ANYTHING that is in ANY WAY
Illegal.  And if the Nightcrawler tape ever is mass produced (I can dream
can't I?)  this offer will be no more. <g>

4)  If you annoy me in any way shape or form I will send you the first
version in which my puppy barks in the background of Uncle's radio show
during Sons Of Belial!!!!!

5)  This is in no particular order!  I couldn't resist having Be My Valentine
after My Boyfriend is a Vampire, can you forgive me?  And it also contains
Spoilers for Every episode up to and including Avenging Angel.  This includes
Human Factor, so if you haven't see the episode and do not with to be spoiled
in would be in your best interest to wait before listening to it.

6)  I do have a life!!!!  Translation:  You won't be getting your tape a week
after you send me the money, judging from the VOLUMES of answers I got before
I have a feeling it may take me a while to get back to you, so try and
forgive me and be patient.

7)  Last but not least, I am informing all of you that yes.... very VERY deep
down I do have slight cousinly tendencies, and this is not to go ANY
FURTHER!!!!  If I find out any of you told anyone of my confession you will
get my puppy in the background!!!!

Now that promised address:
                                Janette Zeitler
                                00 Xxxxx Xxxxxx
                                Xxxx Xxxx Xxxxxxx
                                XX, 00000

If you have any questions regarding this post e-mail me at:

Date:         Mon, 8 Apr 1996 16:42:12 -2055
From:         "L. Katherine Queen" <lqueen@p.......>
Subject:      Re: Nick

In response to Linda Simon, who courageously writes:
>He is not all
>that admirable. He shows little moral courage. He hangs out with the "bad
>crowd" he supposedly is renouncing, lies to himself and others, keeps a good
>woman hanging,...
Wow!!  Have you gone into hiding yet.  I expect the rabid Knighties will be
sending you a retributive strike soon.  (Just recently having made the
assertion that Nick is a wimp.  I know.<vbg>)  I think that Nick shows a
great deal of courage and conviction in making his stand to become mortal.
Not only in the face of the evil and ominous LaCroix but also in spite of
his own vampiric drives.  As to whether or not he lies to others, well,
that is simply a matter of what he is.  I don't think he enjoys misleading
humans and he certainly doesn't seem to take advantage of the ignorance of
those around him.
As to his keeping a good woman hanging...I think that's Natalie's choice.
He's not forcing her to keep pining away for him.  He treats her as a
grown-up with the free will to make up her own mind.  Also in light of
Janette's discovery in HF, he has also shown a great deal of moral fiber by
not putting her at risk, even though he wants so desperately to become
mortal.  He does backslide occasionally, but then who doesn't.

Katherine, ever-closer to Knightie-dom
"I'm afraid to be here, but not ashamed enough to leave."
Date:         Mon, 8 Apr 1996 16:46:10 -2055
From:         "L. Katherine Queen" <lqueen@p.......>
Subject:      Re: FK CD-What CD?

Hi gang,
Will someone please give me info on this mystery CD.  You know the basic
four W's.  What, Where, Who and Why.  Thanks

Katherine, of the newly Knighted...ever-closer to Knightie-dom
Date:         Mon, 8 Apr 1996 16:51:57 -0800
From:         Muldy Sculler <ffbmh@a.......>
Subject:      Re: "Geraint" on the web!

I took care of the problem of GWD's name by buying the audiotape,
_Hauntings_.  Excellent!  I recommend it to everyone--it is a quality
recording of a flexable melodious voice interpreting interestingly
chilling stories.
Date:         Mon, 8 Apr 1996 17:52:40 -0700
From:         Cousin Cherri <cdmunoz@e.......>
Subject:      I GOT the FK CD!!!!!!

I  GOT  IT!!!!

I drove to Crescendo Records.  They were soooooooooo nice.  I even had Mark
sign the CD.  Then it took an hour to get home and guess what.  The CD ended
just before I arrived.  It is very long.  GREAT!!


It is INCREDIBLE!!!  NOT for the faint of heart especially if you're driving.


The first time that Uncle began a monologue I almost had a wreck on Sunset

This CD is a Cousin's dream come true.  I'm shaking just thinking about it.

And for the Knightie's:  It has Nick Vamped out on the front.  He! He!  I
love it.

And then on the inside, Nick is peeking out of the Caddie truck.

Also, there are PICTURES...PICTURES...PICTURES.  yum YUM!!


                               IT  IS  SO  VERY  WONDERFUL!!!!

      Cousin Cherri                          Valentine, Sime/Gen, FKLFE
      <cdmunoz@e.......>                NATPE Strikeforce Survivor

      I don't WANT a new one. I LIKE that one.    <LaCroix-Father's Day>
                               FOREVER KNIGHT
Date:         Mon, 8 Apr 1996 17:55:36 -0700
From:         AKR <r@w.......>
Subject:      NC or WI?

I hardly know whether to compare myself to Hamlet or to Nick:
the indecision and the angst are getting entirely out of hand.
     I've been wavering like a teeter-totter for days in my choice of a
grad school English program, and I'm quickly running out of time. So I've
decided to add a piece of information to the scales that I really ought not
consider at all: <g> Chapel Hill, North Carolina or Madison, Wisconsin--
         **FK-friendly syndie???**    **Sci-Fi Channel???**
PRIVATE E-Mail any information or opinions, please. :)  Thank you. :)

*******  Amy, Lady of the Knight  (AKR) r@w.......  *******
"The mighty mountains bare their fangs unto the moon" --Robert Service
Date:         Sun, 4 Aug 1996 19:04:20 -0700
From:         Lisa Marvin <wyllow@n.......>
Subject:      Re: Turning Point

>btw: SciFi Channel began running ads for FK today.
>--Jean Graham   (JeanB7@a.......)

Rats!  Curses!  Fiddlesticks!  Huff!  Gnarl!  Gnash!  Snap!  Daggers!
My cable provider doesn't have the Sci-Fi Channel!

Lisa M.
Date:         Mon, 8 Apr 1996 21:10:09 -0400
From:         Dotti Rhodes <dottir@w.......>
Subject:      Re: Nick&Nat Manifesto (long)

Man, oh man Amy, when you get going you hit all the right points!
Obviously, I loved your N/N Manifesto - awesome and I'm in total, total

Right On!! (Waving arms in air) Woo, woo, woo!! There you GO, Girl!!!

Dotti R
Knightie 4-Ever
Date:         Mon, 8 Apr 1996 21:10:35 -0400
From:         Dotti Rhodes <dottir@w.......>
Subject:      Re: Bad Nick, Good Nick

Amy, Amy the Knightie fan
If Nick Can't Do It
Amy Can!!

Rah, Rah, Sis Boom Bah!!
Dotti R
Knightie 4-Ever
Date:         Mon, 8 Apr 1996 18:22:25 -0700
From:         AKR <r@w.......>
Subject:      Re: Liking 3rd Season

> Screed asking Nick if he is an Enforcer.  I couldn't stop laughing.

Screed asks WHAT? I have GOT to see BB again... Does anyone know if USA ever
plans to rerun it in a two-hour block like they did at Christmas? Or if anyone
is going to rerun BB at all? I've only kept the dates for the new episodes...
<I am not here; I'm studying Restoration Lit; you didn't see me...>

*******  Amy, Lady of the Knight  (AKR) r@w.......  *******
"The mighty mountains bare their fangs unto the moon" --Robert Service
Date:         Mon, 8 Apr 1996 21:32:11 EDT
From:         MS IDALIA KAKESAKO <NPYF15B@p.......>
Subject:      Uncle's 3rd Season Looks

On Mon, 8 Apr 1996 22:15:52 +0200, Marina Bailey wrote:
>Uncle has been looking great this season also.

But Marina, aren't you forgetting his industrial strength, fuzzy
caterpillar eyebrows?    <eg>

Sorry!  I couldn't resist.

Idalia Kakesako
(one of the few, the proud, the Eyebrow Challenge writers)
Date:         Mon, 8 Apr 1996 21:49:00 -0400
From:         Lisa Wolters <MVRJasper@a.......>
Subject:      I got my CD! I got my CD!!!

I haven't seen anyone else post about this yet so let me be the first.
 Pardon me while I bounce.  :)

I GOT MY CD!!!!  I GOT MY CD!!!!!!!!!

Yes, there was a little package from Crescendo Records stuck by my front door
just now when I got home.

*bounce*   *bounce*   *bounce*

Gee...what will I listen to tonight, all night?

Lisa W.
Date:         Mon, 8 Apr 1996 21:48:07 -0700
From:         Lisa Reeves <ad483@d.......>
Subject:      Re: BB Questions

Lady Sushi wrote:

> >     Planes don't have to explode when they crash.  They can hit and
> >scrape themselves over a considerable amount of space, and maybe pieces
> >can even catch fire, but explosions aren't mandatory.
> Ah, yes, but remember: 'twas a bomb which caused the crash in the first
> place.  In this case, explosions ARE mandatory.

A bomb being the cause of the crash still doesn't mean the -plane- exploded.
All the bomb would have to do is take out some essential hardware, and down
comes the plane.

Lisa Reeves     @-->--->---         |  ad483@d.......
  GDFN Help Staff Co-Administrator  |  Mercenary for Chocolate
            Save Forever Knight! Site for details:
Date:         Mon, 8 Apr 1996 18:10:59 PST
From:         June Russell <Kat@g.......>
Subject:      YKYBWTMFKW

:4 "Blackwing": Natalie--"You still don't tan, you boil." Also, the
:seduction scene between Marian and Nick turned me to goo.

Yep, I like it too. Leads in to a YKYBWTMFKW: I was reading some of my
medical journals (finally had a moment to catch up on them). Spotted an
artical in Cutis (a journal for MDs interested in dermatology) called "Solar
Urticaria". Made me wonder if Nat had thought of some of the possibilities
for cures for vampirism might come from treatment for that disorder. (Well,
we know she's had him try a couple, since sunbathing in a tanning bed is one
of the treatments. Of course, even for solar urticaria, effectiveness
depends on consistent usage. Sunscreens are also useful.) How about
plasmaphoresis (which is helpful in some types, including the kind I've had
since I was in junior high.)


Kat ( June Russell )
pacifier.com!grendal!kat    kat@g.......
Heu! Tintinnuntius meus Sonat!
Date:         Mon, 8 Apr 1996 18:17:23 PST
From:         June Russell <Kat@g.......>
Subject:      Re: Prince Nick (was Re: Is Nick a snob?)

Sandra Gray wrote:
:younger vampires may be wary of crossing him because of his age, but
:I think more of them probably consider Nick a bit "strange" for wanting
:to be mortal again.

How widespread amongst the vampire community is it that Nick wants to be
mortal? I thought that the Enforcers wanted him to keep it quiet.


Kat ( June Russell )
pacifier.com!grendal!kat    kat@g.......
Heu! Tintinnuntius meus Sonat!
Date:         Mon, 8 Apr 1996 22:07:41 -0400
From:         Jamie Melody Randell <immajer@p.......>
Subject:      Re: best things in early 3rd season eps

The thing I liked best about third season:

The fact that there WAS one.

Something that cannot (as yet) be said about fourth-season FK.

Jamie M.R. -- Asst. Listowner -- http://members.aol.com/immajer/
Illustrated Webgoddess & Keeper of Warm Fuzzies
"I may do what I have done.  I may smash the hollow rock
without breaking stride and splinter the glitter inside
all over a midnight street." -- L.F.
Date:         Mon, 8 Apr 1996 21:21:33 -0500
From:         D Echelbarger <gryphon@e.......>
Subject:      Re: BB Questions

>>Ah, yes, but remember: 'twas a bomb which caused the crash in the first
>>place.  In this case, explosions ARE mandatory.
>Say what?  Remember the bomb was in the cockpit.

Sorry, but I've *got* to jump in on this one. Because this bugged me at the
time, I did a *detailed* study of *all* the bombs in this ep (forwardable to
anyone who asks by *private* e-mail), and IMO, the bomb was *not* in the
cockpit. (No, I'm not insane.  Wait 'til I'm done, OK?)  Here's why:

Remember, the figurine the pilot had was *identical* to the one Tracy had at
the end of part 2.  Vudu  *told* Tracy hers was the *Detonator* for all those
bombs Nick, Screed, and Vachon were pulling out of the sewers-- with a ten-mile
radius, which is why driving it away wasn't really an option-- so it's
reasonable to assume that the pilot's was a detonator, too.  Especially since
we see him assembling it in the teaser, and with all the electronics he was
putting in the base, *plus* the music box, there wouldn't be much room left for
plastique. (Not that you need much plastique, but you do need *some*)

So, I figure he checked a bag (or shipped a package) on the plane, with just the
explosives (remember, plastique doesn't show up on x-rays) and gave the pilot
the *detonator*.  Which would also explain why there *was* an explosion (Nick
and Tracy see it) and why Nat said, in the morgue, "Those are the ones
that we can't find. The two women were seated over the wing, and probably
incinerated."  The *real* bomb was in the cargo hold, under the wing, not in
the cabin, and it went off when the pilot turned *off* the music box.

As I said, detailed analysis of all the bombs from BB 1 & 2 available by
private e-mail.  Just ask. :)

Diane E
# D Echelbarger                        gryphon@e.......  #
#   WWW HomePage:    http://www.execpc.com/~echelbar/      #
Date:         Mon, 8 Apr 1996 19:26:38 -0700
From:         Friday Valentine <valentif@t.......>
Subject:      IB best moment

I found it! IMHO *the* best Immortal Beloved moment of all time, (mind you I
haven't seen Human Factor yet...). I also thought this was touching given
Janette's abrupt departure in BB.

From "Dead Issue" about 1/2 hour in:

J: What would you do without me?
N: Oh, I don't ever want to have to face that.  <sexy kiss>
J: *That* was the correct answer.

YKYBWTMFKW: you sit in front of the TV about a foot away getting radiation
burns and smoke coming out of the VCR from trying to find 5 seconds of tape.
You'd think this was my last video project or something :)

IB, Ravenette, and what's this Nanette thing?
Date:         Mon, 8 Apr 1996 23:09:30 EDT
From:         Ian Curtis <102425.1537@c.......>
Subject:      Re: Tracy is Nick Jr.

>>Lacroix: Stop crying, and I'll get you some Happy Kitty Absorbant Coffin

>>Nick: Really? (Immediately stops crying and whiskers perk up)  Happy,
>>happy, joy, joy!

>>Jill Marie
>>(Unattached but competing for the Nightside Aquatic Club)

        Greaaaaaat...now we have a *Ren & Stimpy*/FK crossover...as if sailor
moon wasn't bad enough!  Nigel Benett with a fake mexican accent, <shudder>
<grumble> <growl>

        -- Ian Curtis/Caligula/V. VanGogh/Stanley Kubrick
        Malkavian Monitor of Toronto
        "I challenge you to give me the scientific definition of  *the whammy*"
        - Dana Scully
Date:         Mon, 8 Apr 1996 23:09:34 EDT
From:         Ian Curtis <102425.1537@c.......>
Subject:      Re: best things in early 3rd season eps

these are my fave bits from 3rd season

*Black Buddha*-- "I'm afraid that's impossible--I lost one in the crash...THUD"
                  -- "I tried that, she doesn't whammy."
                  -- "Some of us here can actually DIE, you know."

*Trophy Girl*--"Pragmatist."
            --"She has an evil twin?" (dumb Urs dumb Urs...)

*HoD*-- "If she's an amateur, I'm a vegetarian."

*Blind Faith*--"Maybe you'd like your own little wheel?" (and "Good Boy", of

*Night In Question*--Lacroix calmly asking Nick to remove the inconvenient bit
of wood from his chest...

*Sons of Belial*        --"My, Nicholas, such crass showmanship."
                        --"If there is a God, he has not yet shown himself to
me."            (Lacroix snickering)
                --"This Never Happened."

*Blackwing*--"Not much of a legend, now is it? But I rather like the moral."

*LNMTA*--"How many, Nicholas, or can you even count them?"
        --"I like the whole package just the way it is." (Nat smoothly

*Human Factor*  --"We're gonna have a baby!"
                --"Cause your night just got off to a really bad start."

        that's about it for now, kiddies.

        Ian Curtis
        Malkavian Monitor of Toronto
        "Children of the Night...SHUT UP!!!"
Date:         Mon, 8 Apr 1996 22:27:34 -0500
From:         Lady Sushi <phoenix@i.......>
Subject:      CD

Does anyone know when the CD is coming out in stores?  I'm saving my meager
tax return for this thing, and I actually don't mind!


Cousin "Susan" Phoenix, Camera Fanatic of the Thong Throng
Tell me what that "sleep" thing is again?
*I'd be nothing if not cold.*  ~~~Nigel
I wanted a steak, not a STAKE.
Date:         Mon, 8 Apr 1996 23:36:44 -0400
From:         Siona <siona@n.......>
Subject:      Re: YKYBOTFKLTLW ...

On Mon, 8 Apr 1996, Dalton Spence wrote:

> You know you've been on the FK lists too long when after Easter dinner,

YKYBRTM you know you've been's when you figure out YKYBOTFKLTLW without
having to think about it.

Dark Knightie!
Help save Forever Knight!  see http://www.netaxs.com/~siona/
Date:         Mon, 8 Apr 1996 23:41:13 -0400
From:         "Nancy A. Taylor" <NancyT503@a.......>
Subject:      Re: FK CD

Hi again all!  I be on "digest", so I no respond too fast. :)  For those of
you who ask "where do you all live?"  I'm on the west coast (Oregon,
actually).  The CD was mailed *fourth class*, the stinkers!  No wonder it
took so long.

For those of you who ask "what CD?", oh my!  Fred Mollin's wonderful Forever
Knight music!  Call Crescendo at 1-800-654-7029.  I suspect it will be in the
stores in two or three weeks, but direct ordering is probably still faster.

(Hi Carrie!  I'll listen to it for you, promise. :)=  )

Dame Nancy (NancyT503@a.......)
Proud Knight(ie) of the List
And Owner of the FK CD!!  Happy Happy Joy Joy!!
Date:         Mon, 8 Apr 1996 21:39:11 -0600
From:         Ted Atkinson <llacroix@i.......>
Subject:      Re: FK CD-What CD?

>Will someone please give me info on this mystery CD.  You know the basic
>four W's.  What, Where, Who and Why.  Thanks

Here ya go:

The Forever Knight Soundtrack
8400 Sunset Boulevard
Los Angeles, CA 90069

Anxiously awaiting mine.....

Ted Atkinson    Cousin
Date:         Mon, 8 Apr 1996 20:52:28 -0700
From:         Cynthia Hoffman <choff@v.......>
Subject:      Re: Prince Nick (was Re: Is Nick a snob?)

On Mon, 8 Apr 1996, ELIZABETH ANN LEWIS wrote:

> Regarding the girl in the back room in SoB and why LC would have told her
> to shut up:
> I suppose this isn't the time to mention my theory that she was *mortal*

I'll bite:  if she was mortal why did she have fangs and gold eyes?


Cynthia Hoffman/choff@v.......
feminism is the radical notion that women are people
Date:         Mon, 8 Apr 1996 22:54:07 -0500
From:         Sandra Gray <TMP_HARKINS@d.......>
Subject:      Re: Prince Nick (was Re: Is Nick a snob?)

Kat writes:
>How widespread amongst the vampire community is it that Nick wants to be
>mortal? I thought that the Enforcers wanted him to keep it quiet.

That's a good question.  Vachon, who hasn't been in town long, seemed
to know that Nick had a friend (Nat) who was good with the undead
(Fever).  Who told him?  I guess it depends on what you mean by
"widespread".  If the Toronto vampires know, they may not be concerned
because of Nick's job with the police and his friendship with Nat
protecting them somewhat from discovery.  And Nick *hasn't* for the
most part interfered with the vampires in Toronto.  He usually tries
to protect the community and its members from discovery by mortals.

I got the impression from Unreality TV that the Enforcers weren't
*local* vampires (I certainly can't imagine them following LC around
during the Civil War to see that he behaved ;) ).  If they *aren't*
local, then what Nick does need only get out of Toronto if someone
in the vampire community decides to "squeal" on him.  Certain events
in a spoiler-protected episode that hasn't been repeated yet might
bring them around, though.  I guess time will tell.

You might be right about not many local vampires knowing about Nick's
true aims.  But they may know about his animal blood diet and that in
itself might make him frowned upon by the locals.

--Sandra Gray, forever Knightie

Also, maybe if the local vamps know about his quest, they consider
it just as impossible to accomplish as LC seems to think it is.  But
if he truly *succeeds*, then the "big guns" could be called in.
Date:         Tue, 9 Apr 1996 00:06:20 -0400
From:         Carrie Krumtum <Carrie400@a.......>
Subject:      Re: Bad Nick, Good Nick

In a message dated 96-04-08 20:55:47 EDT, you write:

>Nick's worst faults are selfishness, arrogance, and impatience. I enjoy
>watching him try to conquer them. Goodness knows, I have faults enough of my
>own in those areas.  And Knighties are as sensitive as anyone else to
>criticism of their leader, you know...

All hail Amy, the Knightie at large in defense of our leader.

May I add one small point? Good. :)=

Nick is STILL trying to become what he is not. He is STILL trying to be
better than he had been. He is STILL able to look at life with some kind of
reverence. After 800 years I feel that is an accomplishment. I'm only 33 and
I have a hard time doing these things on any kind of a regular basis.

Proud Knightie, is open awe of Amy...
Date:         Tue, 9 Apr 1996 00:06:21 -0400
From:         Carrie Krumtum <Carrie400@a.......>
Subject:      Re: best things in early 3rd season eps

In a message dated 96-04-08 21:26:55 EDT, you write:

>Yes, clearly Silence of the Lambs. But a ripoff so perfectly adapted to
>Forever Knight. "And they give _you_ a badge."

Got to say it. I agree.

Proud Knightie

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