FORKNI-L
Logfile LOG9604B Part 6
April 8, 1996
File: "FORKNI-L LOG9604B" Part 6
TOPICS:
NBRHPS (3)
Abbreviations
2 questions
YKYB again...
BB Questions (8)
Goodnight
Prince Nick (was Re: Is Nick a snob?) (3)
Nick&Nat Manifesto (long)
FK CD (4)
Something nice about third season eps
I GOT IT!! (was:Where are all the "I got it's")
Nick (2)
In defense of LC/Janette
New affiliation
When last eps?
Screed (jealousy? self-hate?) (2)
Bad Nick, Good Nick
new address and other stuff
fkfic-l request
best things in early 3rd season eps
Human Factor rerun in Syndication?
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 13:03:59 -0700
From: [Name removed by request]
Subject: Re: NBRHPS
i meant Mr B played Riff Raff on stage in Italy, not the movie (Richard
O'Brien). Sorry for not having been clearer :)
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 13:11:58 PDT
From: "Leslie I.Plummer" <lplummer@i.......>
Subject: Re: NBRHPS
Now I'm sorry not to have seen him on stage (in Italy). How delicious as
Riff Raff (& thx for the name. Richard O'Brien was tasty, but NB! Hmm....)
Leslie
At 01:03 PM 4/8/96 -0700, you wrote:
>i meant Mr B played Riff Raff on stage in Italy, not the movie (Richard
>O'Brien). Sorry for not having been clearer :)
>
>
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 13:12:36 -0700
From: AKR <r@w.......>
Subject: Re: Abbreviations
On Mon, Tami wrote: > And the 3 you missed
> HoD - Hearts of Darkness > LNMTA - Let No Man Tear Asunder
> TG - Trophy Girl > so, what do I win? :-)
!!!
Ummmm... a virtual "Memory: The FK Masters Edition." <g>
Golly, I didn't think anyone would actually DO that... <vbg>
******* Amy, Lady of the Knight (AKR) r@w....... *******
"The mighty mountains bare their fangs unto the moon" --Robert Service
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 22:15:52 +0200
From: Marina Bailey <tmar@o.......>
Subject: Re: 2 questions
Am> Try to think of *something* that's superior, even if it's the way
Am> Nick is dressed this season or something.
Actually, that's a good one. I like how Nick is dressed this season much
better than in the other two (really). I also think he looks much better
than the previous two seasons and he has good hair days more often. Uncle
has been looking great this season also.
I also think that, overall, the directing this season has been... I dunno if
'better' is the right word. Nicer, maybe. The direction is clean and
everything is edited well.
The flashbacks also actually have something to do with the story, which
wasn't always the case in the previous seasons.
And no, I don't think the third season is better, just different. All three
seasons are very different, but I think that's a *good* thing. Each season
has a slightly different emphasis, and IMNSHO it keeps the show fresh. And
yes, of course I miss Schanke and Janette. Who wouldn't? But then I still
miss Stonetree, so... (I was brought across by the season season, BTW. By
"Father's Day", to be exact - it was also the first episode I saw.)
- Marina. (tmar@f.......; Dark Knightie)
\\ Advice to Nick: "She hates the shirt, get rid of //
// the shirt, burn the bloody shirt!" - Lenny Henry.\\
... A coffin is an excellent place to sleep during the day.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 15:18:28 -0500
From: Lady Sushi <phoenix@i.......>
Subject: YKYB again...
You know you've been on here too long when... I was reading Non Sequitir
today, and it just happened to be a multi-cubicled office, with computers in
every little boxy area. A large rodent was looking out of one (think maze).
"So," she wryly thought, "THAT's what psuvm looks like..."
(Yes, this is a hamster reference. It was either that or Screed & Co.)
Cousin "Susan" Phoenix, Camera Fanatic of the Thong Throng
Tell me what that "sleep" thing is again?
phoenix@i.......
*I'd be nothing if not cold.* ~~~Nigel
I wanted a steak, not a STAKE.
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 15:50:26 -0500
From: Sandra Gray <TMP_HARKINS@d.......>
Subject: Re: BB Questions
Dr. Funke writes:
>Planes don't have to explode when they crash.
True. But the plane in BB exploded *in the air*. Vachon could have
survived that explosion by being more on the edge of the blast or
something like that.
>He lives in a dreary apartment and doesn't urinate.
Well, I don't know that everyone would describe Nick's apartment as
"dreary". And as for the "doesn't urinate" comment, we've never (to
my knowledge) been shown whether that's actually so or not. Nick
has been shown to have blood in his body and the ability to sweat.
And there are indications that he can also be sexually active. So
he may be able to urinate as well (since he has other body secretions).
He may even be able to "step two" for all we know. :)
I mean, most television shows don't dwell on such matters normally.
--Sandra Gray, forever Knightie
--tmp_harkins@d.......
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 15:56:31 -0500
From: Lady Sushi <phoenix@i.......>
Subject: Re: NBRHPS
>i meant Mr B played Riff Raff on stage in Italy, not the movie (Richard
>O'Brien). Sorry for not having been clearer :)
Danke! I said RHPS earlier 'cause I didn't know if he was in RHS or an
audience participation night at RHPS (Oiy, I've seen this movie too much).
I must admit, though, that from now on whenever I see that flick I'm gonna
have the image of Uncle doing the Time Warp. Ah, well. Not as bad as Tracy
as Coulumbia...
...Eeeeeeewwwwwww... It's just not right.
Cousin "Susan" Phoenix, Camera Fanatic of the Thong Throng
Tell me what that "sleep" thing is again?
phoenix@i.......
*I'd be nothing if not cold.* ~~~Nigel
I wanted a steak, not a STAKE.
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 16:57:46 EDT
From: Tanya Smith <bodybldr@v.......>
Subject: Goodnight
Good night
sleep tight
don't let Nicholas bite
(or, for all you Nicholas lovers)
don't let Lacroix bite
on the other hand, neither suggestion sounds in the least bit frightening.
(-:
Dark Knightie, Manipulative cousin
Tanya
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 15:58:40 -0500
From: Lady Sushi <phoenix@i.......>
Subject: Re: BB Questions
> Planes don't have to explode when they crash. They can hit and
>scrape themselves over a considerable amount of space, and maybe pieces
>can even catch fire, but explosions aren't mandatory.
Ah, yes, but remember: 'twas a bomb which caused the crash in the first
place. In this case, explosions ARE mandatory.
Cousin "Susan" Phoenix, Camera Fanatic of the Thong Throng
Tell me what that "sleep" thing is again?
phoenix@i.......
*I'd be nothing if not cold.* ~~~Nigel
I wanted a steak, not a STAKE.
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 16:08:02 -0500
From: Sandra Gray <TMP_HARKINS@d.......>
Subject: Re: Prince Nick (was Re: Is Nick a snob?)
I don't think Nick is regarded with much respect in the vampire
community. He gets "sneered" at by younger vampires when he goes
into the Raven in other episodes (For I Have Sinned, Curiouser and
Curiouser, for examples). I think he's been tolerated for two
reasons (Janette in first season, LC in subsequent seasons). Some
younger vampires may be wary of crossing him because of his age, but
I think more of them probably consider Nick a bit "strange" for wanting
to be mortal again. As Amy pointed out, LC tells the vamp Nick wanted
to "fang and bang" in SoB to not say anything. But I think it was
more to protect *LC's* reputation and she complied with his "request"
out of fear of what he'd do to her if she didn't. LC didn't want it
to get around that Nick would act so uncontrollably.
--Sandra Gray, forever Knightie
--tmp_harkins@d.......
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 17:27:48 -0500
From: Stephanie Babbitt <stephanie.babbitt@g.......>
Subject: Re: BB Questions
Picking up on Dr. Funke and others' discussion on Nick's (and other vamps')
bodily habits (especially elimination):
Sandra, after a very rational discussion of above, pointed out:
>I mean, most television shows don't dwell on such matters normally.
True. But the scriptwriters did expressly say that a vampire has a
heartbeat about once every ten minutes (I Will Repay). Given that a human's
average resting pulse tends to run in the seventy beats per minute range,
that means the human-to-vampire bodily function ratio would be
approximately 700 to 1. If the ordinary human goes to the little room six
times a day, then by extrapolation, a vampire would go once every four
months or so. This also means female vampires have the luxury of having the
curse only once every 54 years, give or take a month.
No, I'm not really being serious, in case you were wondering. <g>
Stephanie Babbitt
Whose grip on reality appears to be slipping daily
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 14:17:57 -0700
From: AKR <r@w.......>
Subject: Nick&Nat Manifesto (long)
On Mon, 8 Apr 1996, Janice Cox wrote:
> For me, Ger is just a little too clean-cut, and a lot of that shows up in
> Nick. I think Nick would *happily* settle down into the mortal routine...
Now, whoever said clean-cut can't be sexy?
(Waiting for Knighties to stake your opinion, indeed! <vbg>)
But, seriously, we all know that we think Nick's attractive as a human,
because we think Ger's attractive (I choose to swoon over Nick only,
however, because Ger's married; aren't technical distinctions fun?); the
question becomes most interesting when applied to Natalie.
Nick and Nat think that they're in love.
Why? Well, first, they each find the other attractive, not only in
the way that CD and GWD are attractive, but in Nick's natural attraction
as a vampire, and in Nat's natural attraction (to a vampire) as food.
Because of their moral standards and self-images, they suppress that
second aspect into the first, and thus intensify it.
Second, they are good friends. It is important to remember how
comfortable they were in each other's company before everything got
so tense (the tag of UTV, for example, or the "house call" in FF). They
were pals long before they realized that they wanted more from their
relationship (OtL), much less before they finally tried to have more (BMV).
And because they are both lonely, their friendship has assumed enormous
dimensions in each of their emotional lives.
Third, they are symbolic in each other's eyes. Natalie represents
mortality to Nick. Redemption. She is humanity, daylight, growth and age
and children and true death. She has become wrapped up in his mind with
what she's trying to bring him, something that he's been searching for for
at least a century, and something he's periodically regretted losing since
the very first night he lost it. Nick represents security to Nat. Despite
all the dangers she's encountered since he came into her life, he has always
protected her, rescued her, defended her. And he is, himself, safe, because
his self-control is much stronger than he credits -- he will not endanger
her, and she knows this. Until he achieves mortality, or she becomes a
vampire, their relationship cannot really progress, and that is also a kind
of security for Nat, who has had so much loss in her life.
Fourth, they expect the best of each other. Nat gets frustrated and
even angry with Nick when he backslides, because she believes he can be
better. Nick *needs* someone to believe in him like that, because his
guilt often prevents him from expecting the best of himself. And Nick is
always surprised when Natalie doesn't understand something he's going
through. I take this surprise as evidence that it's the exception, and
that the rule is an empathy amazing in light of Nat's non-vampirism.
Fifth, when Nick lost his memory (NiQ) he said that he felt
something special -- "something good" -- between them. This feeling,
imho, could not consciously be supported by anything but physical
attraction or true love, as he remembered nothing of his -- or their --
history. And it seems (to me) unlikely that he would have chosen to act
on it in NiQ unless he believed it to be more than mere chemistry.
Now, as to whether Nat would still be attracted to Nick as a
mortal... I think that what they have been through together in the past
five years is a stronger bond than the vampire magnetism that would be
lost. And the dark corners of his personality would never be entirely swept
out, no matter what kind of redemption he found -- everyone is both good and
evil, and we saw Nick untainted by vampirism in QoH. He would not suddenly
cease to be fascinating. However, the stasis of the relationship would end;
it would have to either grow or die.
And, as Sandra has pointed out, that would be the true test of
Natalie's feelings. I think she's up to the challenge, but I admit it
would be a challenge, and that it would take courage for her to take it
up.
******* Amy, Lady of the Knight (AKR) r@w....... *******
"The mighty mountains bare their fangs unto the moon" --Robert Service
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 17:19:22 -0400
From: "Nancy A. Taylor" <NancyT503@a.......>
Subject: FK CD
Hi all! I'm jumping up and down doing the Happy Happy Joy Joy dance! MY FK
CD JUST ARRIVED IN THE MAIL!!!! Please forgive the shouting. I'm just so
excited!
The theme is terrific, tho it seems a little strange without Nigel's
voiceover. And Nigel's snippets are wonderful! So glad the Nightcrawler got
on the CD also. Ger's piece is beautiful. And then there's all of Fred's
wonderful music! I'm listening as I write. It's mighty hard to type when
you're shaking with excitement.
Thank you, thank you, thank you Fred for your wonderful music! This is the
greatest!
The pictures in the booklet are great too. For those of you who want a
picture of Mr. Mollin, get the CD. There's also a pic with James Parriott in
it. Super! I gush. And gush. Can't stop. Better go.
Dame Nancy (NancyT503@a.......)
Proud Knight(ie) of the List
And Owner of Fred's CD!!!!!!
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 17:20:28 -0400
From: Lynn Messing <messing@a.......>
Subject: Something nice about third season eps
Just time for a quick observation: No one has yet (that I have seen, anyway)
pointed out my favourite BB scene: The one where Nick, in the midst of the
plane crash, realizes that Schanke was on board, and his legs give out
from under him. The scene is heart-wrenching; just the right amount of
pathos without being overdone. (I'd give Ger a Gemini for it. :) )
cheers, Lynn messing@a.......
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 12:32:19 -0800
From: Ida K Egenberger <egenberi@w.......>
Subject: I GOT IT!! (was:Where are all the "I got it's")
On Mon, 8 Apr 1996, Siona wrote:
> I fully expected to see a ton of I Got It!!!! messages here today. I
>
I guess I'll be the first to post the lacking 'I got it!' posts.
Actually, mine came on Saturday and I've listened to the thing at least 3
times in its entirety! Love the beginning to the Queen of Harps suite and
Nicks piano theme, but I wish each were longer than they are. I also love
the pictures on the insert, especially Nick's vamped out on the cover of
the booklet and his ID on the back :-b...
Hope everyone else gets there's soon, Fred Mollin is a true master at his
art!
Ida Egenberger
egenberi@w.......
...finally delurking after one hellish quarter of microbiology
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 17:34:06 -0500
From: Stephanie Babbitt <stephanie.babbitt@g.......>
Subject: Re: BB Questions
Re the exploding plane in Black Buddha, Cousin Phoenix wrote:
>Ah, yes, but remember: 'twas a bomb which caused the crash in the first
>place. In this case, explosions ARE mandatory.
When I answered the original post by private mail, I proposed the following
theory:
Should the explosion have killed Vachon? Not unless it incinerated him, and
there were a lot of bodies that weren't incinerated (they could identify
everybody). Plus, a mortal baby survived it too, with nary a scratch. The
explosion probably just caused rapid decompression,lots of flying debris
and poisonous gas, and a disastrous reconfiguration of the plane's
aerodynamic structure. Not healthy for mortals, to be sure, but certainly
not fatal to a vampire.
Also, as to how did Vachon find his hand amongst the parts: easy. It was
the only one that didn't bleed human blood (an easy smell for vampires to
identify).
Stephanie Babbitt
Who loves these debates even after they've become annoying to everyone else.
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 17:22:14 -0400
From: Linda Simon <lsimon@h.......>
Subject: Re: Nick
While I'm as wowed as anyone by Ger's good looks and talent, IMO Nick's most
consistent, overriding motive is not to become mortal, but to have it
all--real love, all his powers, eternal life/youth, the wisdom of the ages
(though he has not fulfilled his potential on that score). He is not all
that admirable. He shows little moral courage. He hangs out with the "bad
crowd" he supposedly is renouncing, lies to himself and others, keeps a good
woman hanging, provides incredible successes for the police department so
that their evaluations of their work and methods must be skewed. Of course
all this makes for drama. In real life, an exceptional woman like Nat would
have thrown the waffle out.
Linda Simon
NatPacker and chocolatier--a winning combo
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 14:30:04 -0700
From: AKR <r@w.......>
Subject: Re: In defense of LC/Janette
On Mon, 8 Apr 1996, Diane Shea wrote:
> Just to bring up a point, in A Fate Worse Than Death, the very fact that she
> chose to bring Celeste across proves...
Counting the days until I get to see this episode... <g>
Ahem. Did Janette being someone across in AFWTD? This would be
oh-so-relevant to the whole "Janette as Mother" thing...
> I suppose as a Seducer I feel obligated to defend the ideas behind my
> faction to some degree.
<g> And as an (Im)Mortal Beloved and Fleur-Booster, I feel obligated to
keep Janette and LC free for the Brabont siblings... dead and undead, as
the case may be. <g>
******* Amy, Lady of the Knight (AKR) r@w....... *******
"The mighty mountains bare their fangs unto the moon" --Robert Service
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 14:24:00 -0700
From: ELIZABETH ANN LEWIS <elewis@u.......>
Subject: Re: Prince Nick (was Re: Is Nick a snob?)
Regarding the girl in the back room in SoB and why LC would have told her
to shut up:
I suppose this isn't the time to mention my theory that she was *mortal*
(why else would she have been in danger) and Nick was hallucinating that
she was a vampire? LC even does the raised finger thing with both the
girl and the de-frocked priest (yeah, I know, that's not exactly
conclusive). No? OK, I won't mention it.
Lizbet
elewis@u....... *** Lizbetann@a.......
Methos Flagwaver |~~~~~~~~~~
Merc (What do you expect? I'm a starving student!)
Listowner, Middle Ages Life
http://members.aol.com/Lizbetann/mypage.html
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 17:46:28 -0400
From: Dotti Rhodes <dottir@w.......>
Subject: Re: New affiliation
At 08:28 PM 4/7/96 -0400, Susan wrote:
>
>
>What about the 'Th-thumps' who would like to be hypnotized by Nick?
The "Th-thumps"??!! What a scream!! Sign me up, r-right away!!
>
Dotti R
Knightie 4-Ever
dottir@w.......
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 10:17:00 -0500
From: Patricia Bozis <prmb@i.......>
Subject: When last eps?
I have read two different dates for the beginning of the last four eps.
A call to WBBM in my area only gets me an answering machine. Does anyone
know for sure when the last four eps will show in syndication?
Patricia Bozis
prmb@i.......
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 17:52:35 -0400
From: Susan Bratt <Vampzek@a.......>
Subject: Re: Screed (jealousy? self-hate?)
In a message dated 96-04-08 10:59:31 EDT, you write:
>This is a possibility! Jealous? My Nickie? Of Screed? HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!
Definitely! Screed's life is simple, completely uncomplicated, he doesn't
have to worry about always having to "repay humanity for his sins", he
doesn't have LaCroix hounding him through continents and centuries, etc, etc.
I mean, okay, the guy sucks on rats and lives in a sewer. But that's a
small price to pay for having what Nick wants -- freedom from bloodlust for
humans and melancholy-free day-to-day existence.
Guess this makes me a Ratpacker! :)
Susan B
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 17:52:39 -0400
From: Susan Bratt <Vampzek@a.......>
Subject: Re: Screed (jealousy? self-hate?)
Amy scribbled:
> And Nick would hate that envy in himself. He can be extremely
>arrogant, and the idea that a social derelict like Screed has so easily
>something he wants so badly...
> All subconscious, of course. <g>
Of course! ;)
I prefer my heroes a little on the flawed side anyway! Makes them so much
more interesting!
Susan B
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 17:52:41 -0400
From: Susan Bratt <Vampzek@a.......>
Subject: Re: BB Questions
Another Susan wrote:
>Ah, yes, but remember: 'twas a bomb which caused the crash in the first
>place. In this case, explosions ARE mandatory.
Well, yes, true. But that explostion happened in the cockpit. The fuel
tanks are under the wings aren't they? Maybe they didn't get exploded in the
process.
Susan B
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 16:55:30 -0500
From: Sandra Gray <TMP_HARKINS@d.......>
Subject: Re: BB Questions
Stephanie writes:
>[snip] If the ordinary human goes to the little room six times a day,
>then by extrapolation, a vampire would go once every four months or
>so.
LOL! :) Then, gee, doesn't Nick *sweat* an awful lot? ;)
Seriously, someone posted once that highly trained athletes have a
lower heart rate than your ordinary Joe. So maybe vampires just have
a more efficient heart rate yet.
--Sandra Gray, forever Knightie
--tmp_harkins@d.......
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 16:58:16 -0500
From: sowder john mark <sowder@c.......>
Subject: Re: FK CD
For all of you that have received your CD, what part of the
country do you live in? I'm in the midwest and have yet to receive the
CD. Anxiously waiting
--
John M Sowder ** Forever Knightie **
Senior, Computer Engineering
sowder@u.......
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 15:12:41 -0700
From: AKR <r@w.......>
Subject: Bad Nick, Good Nick
On Mon, Linda Simon, Natpacker, wrote:
> He is not all that admirable. He shows little moral courage.
Goodness gracious, Nick is taking a lot of hits lately! :)
OF COURSE Nick is flawed. He has faults upon faults upon faults.
Everybody does. LC is manipulative; Vachon is a slacker; Nat can be snide.
And we love them all anyway. And other characters love them anyway.
Because their good traits outweigh their bad ones.
Nick shows moral courage every single time he does not plunge his
fangs into the neck of the week. And he resists more often than not.
Nick shows moral courage every time he tries a new cure, despite
innumerable setbacks, which Janette (The Fix) thought should have
disillusioned him long since.
Nick showed moral courage when he refused to bring Natalie across
(AMPH), when he allowed the "cop" to replace the "beast" in FTB, when he
"turned himself away" from Emily in STF, when he stood up for Schanke as
a "real cop" in AN, when he talked LC out of bringing Fleur across (BMV),
when he *gave up* his relationship with Nat for her sake in the tag of
BMV, when he fought the demon in SoB... and many, many more.
Don't you love it when he takes the burgers to the street kids in
DK? When he gives the harp to the museum in QoH? When he helps his
friend disappear in FitP?
Emily: "He seems like a good man."
Janette: "Yes, he does seem that way, doesn't he?"
Well... yes. He tries to be a good man. And that is darn hard for a vampire.
Nick's worst faults are selfishness, arrogance, and impatience. I enjoy
watching him try to conquer them. Goodness knows, I have faults enough of my
own in those areas. And Knighties are as sensitive as anyone else to
criticism of their leader, you know...
******* Amy, Lady of the Knight (AKR) r@w....... *******
"The mighty mountains bare their fangs unto the moon" --Robert Service
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 17:21:59 -0500
From: Sandra Gray <TMP_HARKINS@d.......>
Subject: Re: Prince Nick (was Re: Is Nick a snob?)
Lizbet writes:
>I suppose this isn't the time to mention my theory that she was *mortal*
>(why else would she have been in danger) and Nick was hallucinating that
>she was a vampire?
Why else would she have been in danger? Well, if she was a young
vampire, maybe because Nick with the strength of his age could have
torn off her head and destroyed her (LC says decapitation is a way to
destroy vampires in Dark Knight)? In the bar, I thought she might
be a mortal too. But once she vamped out, I took the scene as it was
show (it didn't cross my mind that Nick was hallucinating that she
was a vampire). Also, I don't recall any of the sound effects they
use for hypnosis being used by LC when he told her not to say
anything about what had happened.
I'm curious now to see that scene again though. ;) Just to make sure.
;)
--Sandra Gray, forever Knightie
--tmp_harkins@d.......
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 15:05:34 -0800
From: John Soo-Hoo <galahad!jsoohoo@n.......>
Subject: Re: BB Questions
<199604082105.OAA29963@m.......>
>> Planes don't have to explode when they crash. They can hit and
>>scrape themselves over a considerable amount of space, and maybe pieces
>>can even catch fire, but explosions aren't mandatory.
>Ah, yes, but remember: 'twas a bomb which caused the crash in the first
>place. In this case, explosions ARE mandatory.
Say what? Remember the bomb was in the cockpit. I'm not familiar with
the specs on a commercial airliner (fuel is usually in the wing section),
but the explosion happened BEFORE the crash and for there to be a
BIGGER explosion, the airplane fuel would need to come into play I would
guess that this would happen after the plane hits the ground.
In other words, here is how I saw it happen.
Bomb in cockpit goes "boom" pilots die, plane falls like a rock. Plane
hits ground and breaks up into little pieces. As far as fire/explosions
I didn't see explosions, but there was definantely fires. So we really don't
know if there was "BOOM" during the crash. If there was, I would guess
those sitting on the wing section (Vachon would be here remember he likes
the roar of the engines <sigh>) would get toasted.
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 18:40:47 -0400
From: Dotti Rhodes <dottir@w.......>
Subject: Re: Nick
At 05:22 PM 4/8/96 -0400, you wrote:
>
>
Now, as for you Linda Simon - Nick is NOT trying to have it all, we all know
he'd give up those powers, we all know he wants redemption, and a life in
the sun - hrumpf!!! Remember, your rooming with a Knightie at the
SHrewthering, we've been known to act first and angst later!! (g)
Dotti R
Knightie 4-Ever
dottir@w.......
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 18:53:28 -0400
From: Karen Parker <HorCgal@a.......>
Subject: new address and other stuff
HI! Im not sure how to tell the listserver my new address, it keeps sending
it back, anyhow my new add. is horcgal@u....... If anyone wants to
relay a message. I also wanted to know, someone said that LaCroix never
taught anyone else how to bring someone across properly and thats why Nicks
"children" all were psychos and stuff, but Vachon brought Urs across I think,
and she is fine. Dont holler at me, Im new and I only came into FK in the
middle of the 3rd season!!! I guess this next statement will get everyone who
likes Nick mad at me but, I think he is a bit of a snob. Not because he has
more cash or anything, but maybe it is like an age thing like someone else
said. I remember an ep. (dont holler! I can never remember titles!!!) where
Nick got cocky with Vachon in the stairwell of the apt. where Tracy was
watching that stripper girl from the Raven. Vachon went to talk to Urs
outside and the girl attacked Tracy, When Nick got there he kinda got in his
(vachons) face about "Now dont let another thing happen to her!!" As if it
was Vachon's fault. He (Nick) was kinda talking down to him like he was a kid
or something, so thats why I say the snob attitude is an age related thing. I
hope that show was still under spoiler protection!!!! Im sorry if it was.
Also, (I know, Im getting annoying) is SciFi going to rerun ALL the eps. of
FK starting from the 1st season? I'd love to see this Black Bhudda show that
everyone is talking about, along with a few others. Ok, I'll end now, I hope
my new add. gets to wherever its gotta go so I dont miss too many postings!
Bye All! Karen horcgal@u.......
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 18:57:13 -0400
From: Jill Marie Spetoskey <jilkey@u.......>
Subject: Re: BB Questions
(I need new episodes. I really need new episodes)
On Mon, 8 Apr 1996, Stephanie Babbitt wrote:
> months or so. This also means female vampires have the luxury of having the
> curse only once every 54 years, give or take a month.
>
But wouldn't that be somewhat counterproductive eliminating food like
that? And would you have do deal with 4 years of very cranky female
vampire with a craving for AB negative with a dash of O positive?
Jill Marie
(unattached but competing for the Knightside Aquatice Club)
jilkey@u.......
(off to rewatch Human Factor with this sort of theory in mind)
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 19:13:49 -0400
From: Siona <siona@n.......>
Subject: Re: FK CD
On Mon, 8 Apr 1996, sowder john mark wrote:
> For all of you that have received your CD, what part of the
> country do you live in? I'm in the midwest and have yet to receive the
> CD. Anxiously waiting
I think it's funny that Nancy and I both did the "Happy Happy Joy Joy"
thing when telling everyone we got our CD's :)
John, I'm on the east coast in the suburbs of Philly.
Siona@n.......
Dark Knightie!
Help save Forever Knight! see http://www.netaxs.com/~siona/
"Murphy was an optimist!"
Lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine.
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 19:16:11 -0400
From: Siona <siona@n.......>
Subject: Re: fkfic-l request
On Mon, 8 Apr 1996, Katja Stokley wrote:
> I know I'm probably the only person in the world still reading mail via a
> dial up with vt100 emulation, but when people send stuff with long line
> lengths (or when a paragraph is just one big line), it's really hard to
> read. Can I beg people to break their lines at about 70 characters?
Nope, you're not the only one. The long lines also mess up other kind of
mail readers including Eudora. In fact, I believe it's in the faq about
how to format the fiction.
Siona@n.......
Dark Knightie!
Help save Forever Knight! see http://www.netaxs.com/~siona/
"Murphy was an optimist!"
Lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine.
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 18:07:01 -0500
From: Margie Hammet <treeleaf@i.......>
Subject: Re: best things in early 3rd season eps
>Back to TG: Okay, a ripoff of Silence of the Lambs. Still, let us not forget
>Rosebud...
Yes, clearly Silence of the Lambs. But a ripoff so perfectly adapted to
Forever Knight. "And they give _you_ a badge."
Margie (treeleaf@i.......)
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 18:26:26 -0600
From: Crystal Guffey <guffeyc@t.......>
Subject: Human Factor rerun in Syndication?
Does anyone know if Human Factor has already rerun in syndication? If the
new shows start in late April, there will not be time for it to rerun!
Maybe they plan for it to be in the summer. (Hopefully!)
In addition, does anyone have the Canadian versions of season 1. I know,
I know, everyone asks so just add me to the list of beggars. I also need
about 6 shows from season 2. I think I lost a tape..:(
Thanks all...
Crystal, A Vaquera
Guffeyc@t.......
You may say, I'm a dreamer...but I'm not the only one...
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 19:28:53 -0400
From: Carrie Krumtum <Carrie400@a.......>
Subject: Re: FK CD
Nancy,
I've ordered mine but it hasn't come yet. Of course, I live in OKLA. We're
last on the pany express line. Anyway, I'm jealous. :(
Sob, listen to it once for me.
Carrie
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