FORKNI-L
Digest - 16 Apr 1996 to 17 Apr 1996 - Special issue
Wed, 17 Apr 1996
There are 42 messages totalling 1014 lines in this issue.
Topics in this special issue:
1. Seeing Nick in Flight (was Re: Vampire Crickets)
2. Picture this
3. Uncle = LaCroix, aired order
4. Fourth Season Eps. (2)
5. Episode Order (2)
6. TCI Cable and the SCI-FI
7. Infor request for Fiction.
8. CD Order
9. tape request and better captain
10. L.A. Syndie channel? (2)
11. USA????Please!!
12. Police Captains & hamsters (2)
13. Blu Mankuma
14. <none>
15. Police Captains
16. How much does Nat know? (3)
17. <No subject given>
18. Nick a Baptist?
19. Wardrobe (was Re: Nick's chest)
20. Nick and Faith
21. The music, the music
22. Curioser & Curioser
23. OIY! (3)
24. FEVER (3)
25. The fear of new episodes (2)
26. Nick biting Marian
27. Nat and Vampirism
28. PARTY/Wake
29. How do I explain?
30. Sorry, y'all
31. too much F.K.....
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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 17:09:43 -0400
From: Andy & Roni Power <bach19@i.......>
Subject: Re: Seeing Nick in Flight (was Re: Vampire Crickets)
At 07:34 PM 4/15/96 -0400, you wrote:
>Yes, yes and yes again. Particularl after USA pulled out, I'm surprised
>they could afford whoosh. I think there was also some discussion that they
>didn't like the way the flying sequences looked.
Well count me in as one who likes the whooshing better. I close my eyes
everytime I watch a first season eps where he's flying. Someone and I think
it was Don Fasig summed it right. "Ger on a wire"
Roni.
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
"Oh my God!! Ms. Fraser is a crossdresser!!" - Due South
"Weapons have no dominion over the souls of men." - Darius
~~~~Roni Power ~*~ The O+ FoD ~*~ bach19@i.......~~~~
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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 17:10:30 EDT
From: Mary Anne Espenshade <mae@a.......>
Subject: Re: Picture this
Dotti R wrote:
>I tried calling around and the record shops around
>here say Crescendo records tends just to sell by mail order. He couldn't
>even find a listing in his books at Sam Goody.
That's odd, I buy recordings from Crescendo at Sam Goody all the time,
just got the extended Ladyhawke soundtrack there last week. Now admittedly,
the FK soundtrack is probably too recent a release to be in those books yet,
but they certainly should have been able to call Crescendo and ask, just like
we all did.
I got my 4 copies last week, went together with 3 friends to get the discount.
The music is wonderful!!!
--
Mary Anne Espenshade
mae@a.......
"I worked late on my birthday and nobody brought ME a cute vampire!"
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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 16:59:19 -0400
From: "Susan M. Garrett" <susang@v.......>
Subject: Uncle = LaCroix, aired order
Just a brief reminder--
reality gets warped enough around here. Please keep in mind that "Uncle" is
LaCroix, NOT Nigel.
And, my little Ravenette soul was astonished to find how similar a mistyping
of 'uncle' is to 'no clue.'
Yes, episodes have been aired in an order OTHER than production order during
this and other seasons and episode lists on a number of sites ARE in aired
order, not production order.
Regards
susang@v....... -- http://www.vitinc.com/~susang
Faithful Ravenette, because somebody STILL has to.
Visit THE essential webpage for Forever Knight info at:
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
"Friends help you move. Real friends help you move bodies."
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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 17:29:38 -0400
From: Dotti Rhodes <dottir@w.......>
Subject: Re: Fourth Season Eps.
At 01:55 PM 4/16/96 EDT, you wrote:
>
>I think we should get a mortal boyfriend for Nat too. Then,
>Nick could go be an immortal 'ho, trying to get back at her.
>
In immortal 'ho? (Screaming laughter)!!!!
Dotti R
Knightie 4-Ever
dottir@w.......
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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 14:39:42 -0700
From: LC Fenster <lucienlc@i.......>
Subject: Re: Episode Order
Margie wrote:
> did Tristar air the second-season in the order the
>eps are "really" supposed to have happened, or did they just air them
>in some other order for some reason of their own? Is there someone
>connected with Forever Knight who has the definitive word on the order
As a matter of fact, I asked James Parriott this question in the middle
of the second season. Here was his response:
<<Laurie -
Syndication does require that each episode be able to air out of order
and on its own. However I do think that there's a natural progression
that occurs with the characters and what about each has been revealed.
So... I guess shooting order is how they *should* be aired. But that's
done in only a very broad manner (i.e. the studio picks an order from,
say, seven episodes that have just been completed --- but they
generally won't air an episode shot in the Fall in the Spring, unless
it's a real dog and they want to bury it.)
Hope that answers your question.
--JP>>
Which answer provoked another two weeks of debate, as I recall <g>.
Laurie
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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 16:51:04 -0600
From: Amy Denton <Z_DENTONAM@t.......>
Subject: TCI Cable and the SCI-FI
In answer to Valery's question:
>Does ANYONE with TCI have the SciFi Channel?
Yes, I do. I live in East Texas (Nacogdoches to be exact) and we've always
had the SCI-FI channel. I might be wrong but I don't think so. I'll have to
check my check book when I get home.
Oblig FK: Uncle's coming to Baltimore! Uncle's coming to Baltimore! (jumps up
and down, claps hands) And I'm a Knightie too. :-p
>Valery
>kingv@u.......
Amy D.
z_dentonam@t.......
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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 17:43:27 -0400
From: Marc Ducorsky <mducorsk@e.......>
Subject: Infor request for Fiction.
Hello,
I am currently working on a fiction STORY WITH NO TITLE. I have
a few beta-readers that I have not heard from. This message has two
purposes.
1) Have my beta-readers contact me.
Do you want to be my beta-readers?
2) Send me information or request to be beta readers for a
Forever Knight/She-Wolf of London/Friday the 13th x-over.
-Marc-
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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 13:41:38 -0800
From: John Soo-Hoo <galahad!jsoohoo@n.......>
Subject: Re: CD Order
<199604161849.LAA15887@m.......>
>Well the FK CD arrived yesterday; one week after ordering it. I guess paying
>the extra dollar for First Class helped some. And all I had to say to my wife
>to explain why I had ordered it was: "Hey, it's Forever Knight!".
Yes, my CD arrived yesterday as well. I just hope for your sake Dirk,
that you wife won't order in the future a CD and say "Hey, it's Michael
Bolton!". :)
I finally listened to the whole thing and I am pleased with it.
BUT I do have 2 minor quibbles about it.
1) The breaks between songs is a little too brief. (Well, may be not so).
2) Only Nigel's voice is on it. I kinda wish some of the other cast members
would be on it and quote their favorite lines from the episode where
the music was from.
IMHO the best line on the CD is:
"If you love something, let it go. If it doesn't return, hunt it down
and kill it."
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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 18:04:24 -0400
From: colin paddock <Claudius@n.......>
Subject: tape request and better captain
ok,
I really want to bring my friend across, all i have on tape are 3th
season episodes, and I don't think they would like season 3 as much as
season 1 or 2. If any one has season 1 or 2 episodes on tape can i have
copies? I will pay for postage and tapes and really everything. If anyone
has any, please privetly e-mail me. Thanks
Now, I think that Reese a good captain. I did not like Cohen, she
was too cold. Reese is the only 3 third season change that i think was good
for the show.
********The Transformers, My Bloody Valentine, Windows95, Andy Warhol,
Jawbreaker, Colin's Sanity, and Just About Everything In This Message is
Going as Far From The Intended excape Route as Fast as
Possible.*********************
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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 18:43:30 -0400
From: Jean Graham <JeanB7@a.......>
Subject: L.A. Syndie channel?
Could someone (anyone) please e-mail me with info. on any syndie channels
running FK in L.A.? I just converted ('scuse me, "brought across") a
screenwriter friend in Hollyweird... er, wood -- just in time for USA to dump
the show. She's not thrilled with me for that(!) -- she doesn't have SciFi
Channel.
Help!
Jean Graham (JeanB7@a.......)
_______________________________________________-
"Why don't you write books people can READ?"
--Nora Joyce to husband James
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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 18:12:38 CST
From: Tippi Blevins <WickedOne@h.......>
Subject: Re: USA????Please!!
Kathy wrote:
FO>FK eps, you can't tell whether you're watching FK or SS! While I'm glad
FO>USA sponsored [at least part of] a 3rd season, I really hate to watch
FO>that kind of trash.
As someone who has just seen some first and second season eps for the
first time, I'd have to say that the 3rd season is pretty sexless in
comparison! I forget the episode title, but there's one where a man and
woman are watching this rock video together, she straddles him (you see
her naked from behind with the sheet just barely covering her crack, and
she stabs him. Then there's Nick's seduction in DBTLOTM, which I don't
count as sleezy because, well, I *wanted* to see it happen. ;) There's
a saying that goes "It's only porn if you don't want to see it."
Wicked Cousin Tippi
(WickedOne@h....... or TippiNB@a.......)
Long live the Thong!
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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 18:19:00 CST
From: Tippi Blevins <WickedOne@h.......>
Subject: Police Captains & hamsters
Bonnela wrote:
FO>Also, I was wondering if the listserver hamster at Penn State has a name (is
FO>there one for each FK list? is there a relief hamster? is there a
FO>stunt-double hamster for when the listers goes all wonkey like they did
FO>Saturaday night?)
Yes. It's Something Warm n Fuzzy. Nick usually keeps it in his pocket.
Wicked Cousin Tippi
(WickedOne@h....... or TippiNB@a.......)
Long live the Thong!
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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 18:23:07 EST
From: molly <MSREED@u.......>
Subject: Blu Mankuma
I was looking at next weeks TV Guide and Blu Mankuma is listed as being a guest
on KUNG FU THE LEGEND CONTINUES.
Molly
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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 18:24:46 CST
From: Tippi Blevins <WickedOne@h.......>
Subject: <none>
Tanya wrote:
FO>Subject:Quid Pro Quo--meaning
FO>Means "something for something" in Latin. Usually, it refers to
FO>"I'll wash your back if you wash mine". Lacroix was returning Nick
FO>a favor
Ahhhhhhh I just got a wonderful "Unnamed Faction" mental image outta
that!
Wicked Cousin Tippi
(WickedOne@h....... or TippiNB@a.......)
Long live the Thong!
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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 18:30:52 CST
From: Tippi Blevins <WickedOne@h.......>
Subject: Re: Police Captains
Tami wrote:
FO>Have to agree with Dotti.
FO>I thought Cohen was *BORING*, One-dimensional,monotonous, useless.
FO>I liked Stonetree because he had emotions and great stories.
FO>But Reese is my favorite. He's witty, quick on his feet, a *good* cop <G>
Cohen is still my favorite! As an Asian babe myself (well, halfway
anyway... French and Welsh are battling it out for my other half) I'm
throwing my support to Amanda! Reese is a close second though.
Wicked Cousin Tippi
(WickedOne@h....... or TippiNB@a.......)
Long live the Thong!
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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 16:35:41 -0700
From: Valery King <kingv@u.......>
Subject: Re: Episode Order
I don't think you can definitively state that there is a "correct" airing
order. I remember that in the 2nd season JP was told to make each and
every story "stand-alone" so they could be aired in any order in
repeats/syndication. Order of airing was determined by a lot of things--
sweep months for instance got what TPTB considered the "strongest"
episodes, regardless of what order they were filmed in.
My personal preference is filmed order. When an actor/writer/producer is
working on a continuing project like a tv series, you may try to ignore
what you've done before but I know from experience you can't really do
that. What Ger did as Nick one week is going to affect how he sees and
plays the character in following weeks. Episode 22 is going to be
affected by episode 13, even though they showed 22 first. Same thing
applies to the writing, producing and directing. Showing Nick in the very
last scene of the last aired episode playing kissy-face with Janette is
going to have a greater impact than if (*as it was filmed*) it came in
the middle of the season! And truthfully, some events made a lot more
sense character-developmentally coming *after* certain others than before.
There was no continuity; not consciously. However much it irked us fans,
that was how they wrote the season. Any continuity came from how the
actors developed their characters, and IMHO that means taking into
account the order the stories were filmed.
All the preceding, of course, is just my opinion.
Cheers!
Valery
kingv@u.......
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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 16:43:51 -0700
From: AKR <r.......@w.......>
Subject: Re: How much does Nat know?
Responding to Valery King:
> (can't remember which) she mentions knowing him for a year and a half.
That is "Only the Lonely," famous for the line, "Liar!"
> In that one I felt that it was *Nick* who didn't want to dwell on "Famous
> People I Have Known", with a kind of "get over it" look.
You're right about FIHS, I think, but in NiQ, Nat definitely rolls
her eyes when Nick innocently implies he's responsible for that music. He has
no idea what he's saying, but she certainly does, and for the longest time, I
misheard her next statement as "going up for air," because it followed so
closely on the heavy implications of the hard-of-hearing friend with the
quill pen... Perhaps part of the reason Nick didn't want to dwell on St.
Joan is because he was still uncomfortable with the implications of "saint."
> And when did you ever meet a man who *didn't*
> like talking about himself? (VVBG)
Actually <wry grin> ones who will *talk* about *anything* can be at a
bit of a premium... No doubt this is part of LaCroix's appeal. Come to
think of it, and correct me if I'm wrong, but it occurs to me that Nick and
LC have gotten through the centuries with, mainly, just the companionship of
their Family, while Janette has always reached out for others. Thoughts?
*** Amy, Lady of the Knight (AKR) r.......@w....... ***
* Be Kind to Hamsters -- Observe the Four-Line Quote Limit *
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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 19:44:33 -0400
From: Trisha Morris <PMorris231@a.......>
Subject: <No subject given>
16/96 -0400, Pat wrote:
>>
> Did anyone besides me notice that one of the
>>scenes in the police station has two Playboy bunnies
>>in the background (part of the Alice theme?).
>At 07:57am 4/16/96, Dotti replies
>Wow - no I didn't notice!! But sometimes I can be a little slow on that
>obvious stuff - it took me to watchings to realize Carol Lewis' name - what
>a dinkle brain!!
I caught the bunnies in the backround but never realized about Carol Lewis'
name. God I feel like an idiot.
Trisha
PMorris231@a.......
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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 19:58:11 -0400
From: Loose Cannon <LoosCanN@a.......>
Subject: Re: Nick a Baptist?
Cousin Erik writes:
>*If* Nick repented of his sins, whether or not he was a vampire, regardless of
>how many lifetimes he has lived, regardless of everything in his past; if Nick
>repented of his sins and promised his life to some God or other (God, Allah,
>whatever), then he's redeemed. <*znip*> That's what redemption is.
Okay, here comes that ignorant pagan again. Don't Catholics have a ritual
called "the last rites"? If you die before you have a chance to confess your
venial sins, you end up in Purgatory, and with mortal sins (ie. murder)
unconfessed you are damned? Or am I clinging like lichen to a stone to a
more medieval concept of Catholism? Has this changed over the years? Even
if it has, and I'm correct in my recollection of the medieval concepts, maybe
Nick, 13th century lad that he is, is still clinging lichen-like...
Blessings dark and bright,
Leslie
(LoosCanN@a.......)
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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 18:59:15 -0500
From: Sandra Gray <TMP_HARKINS@d.......>
Subject: Re: How much does Nat know?
I don't think Nat knows that much about Nick's past. I think Nick
is afraid to tell her that many details about his past. I think
he's afraid she might be repulsed by something he'd say.
Janette being gone has to be hard for Nick because she was the one
person he felt okay about opening up to with any concerns or problems.
Even then, though, there were some things he kept to himself for a
long time (what happened with Sylvaine in Love You to Death, for
example). Janette finally got the story though. Contrast that ep
with Last Act where Nat almost has to pry out of him that he lost
an "old friend...<of> two, three hundred years". Nat may have picked
up that the "old friend" was more than just an old friend by his
tone or manner, but I doubt whether he talked to Nat much about her.
He may be more forthcoming with Nat now, but I bet he still judges
what he wants to say about his past before saying it.
--Sandra Gray, forever Knightie
--tmp_harkins@d.......
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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 16:06:56 -0800
From: Muldy Sculler <ffbmh@a.......>
Subject: Re: Wardrobe (was Re: Nick's chest)
I like those vests fromt he second season--why: they invite one to
unbutton them. I do concur concerning that peach and green thing--not
her colors.
Barbara
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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 17:21:05 -0700
From: AKR <r.......@w.......>
Subject: Nick and Faith
On Tue, 16 Apr 1996, Tanya Smith wrote:
> Subject:Nick=Baptist Nick isn't a Baptist. I believe Nick is agnostic.
(Fair warning -- I'm Catholic. My opinions are only mine...<g>)
Nick is a (fallen-away) medieval Catholic.
I think we can agree on this, and I know that the "Baptist" thread
did not begin with an assertion about Nick's beliefs.
He was raised in the medieval Church, and his faith, whatever we may
think of it, was clearly demonstrated in QoH, in his flashbacks to his life
before LC.
Nick's entire view of existence is informed by ideas of damnation,
salvation, sin, and repentance. He was disillusioned when he was taken by
Janette and LC, and for many centuries he tried to set his faith aside, but
it was always there, nagging at him, telling him, first, that taking human
life is wrong, second, that if he really gave up his soul, he's damned, and
third, that if he still has his soul, then he can repent, reconcile, and be
saved.
Nick may now be agnostic, as he was in the flashback of SoB ("If
there is a God, He has not yet revealed Himself to me"). However, I believe
that, for Nick, such an attitude is simply a superficial veneer -- deep down,
he really does believe. Of course, having lived through eight centuries of
change and turmoil, he must certainly have learned that all human
institutions are imperfect -- including the Church, which has (thankfully)
changed a great deal since Nick was mortal. Those changes, rationally,
displaced his faith into his semi-scientific quest for mortality -- but I
don't think they destroyed it.
> Unfortunately for Nick, he lived through the hellfire and damnation
> era/century, and hence has the bad taste of guilt in his mouth.
> Nick's guilt is unwarranted...
Obviously, I don't think it's unfortunate that Nick feels guilty, and,
obviously, I don't think his guilt is unwarrented. He has done some truly
awful things in his long existence, and very few of them were really for
self-defense or even survival. Every one that was not, and many that were,
deserve the respect of real guilt... until they are forgiven, repayed, or
whatever. As they have not yet been.
If we didn't feel guilt when we did something wrong... Well,
actually, the lack of guilt and conscience as a reason for the impending
collapse of society always seems to be getting into the newsmagazines these
days, so I'll leave the topic alone. Suffice to say, Nick's quest for
*redemption* (as opposed to mere mortality) is what first attracted me to
the show. I share many of his views on existence. Of course, whether
Nick and I are right, or LC is, or Janette, or Vachon, or Natalie... :)
> I personally think Nick needs to go to a shrink. He is neurotic as hell.
I want a Nick/Darius encounter... time-warp... (Hi, Bobbie!) :)
*** Amy, Lady of the Knight (AKR) r.......@w....... ***
* Be Kind to Hamsters -- Observe the Four-Line Quote Limit *
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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 20:59:54 -0400
From: Dotti Rhodes <dottir@w.......>
Subject: Re: The music, the music
At 04:21 PM 4/16/96 -0400, you wrote:
>
>
>(Alright, you're a sympathetic group, right?)
>I've just experienced the rush of receiving the CD in the mail, and
>friends-----I don't own a CD player.
Alright Linda, now that I've stopped laughing. I think you need to just
grab a well known brand. Sony, GE, RCA, etc. That way, if anything goes
wrong, you have the back up of a major company and they usually have very
good warranties. Even Radio Shack has some good stuff and I know they have
a good return policy, and they even repair these days.
Good luck!!
Dotti R
Knightie 4-Ever
dottir@w.......
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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 21:22:25 -0500
From: Cyberspace Vanguard Magazine <vanguard@p.......>
Subject: Re: Curioser & Curioser
>Wow - no I didn't notice!! But sometimes I can be a little slow on that
>obvious stuff - it took me to watchings to realize Carol Lewis' name - what
>a dinkle brain!!
Not as slow as me. I just got it.
BTW, I think my copy is cut off. The last thing I've got is Nick asking
Cohen, "Yeah, but how do you get rid of guilt?"
Am I missing anything?
---- TJ
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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 18:21:06 -0500
From: Janice Cox <jancox@v.......>
Subject: Re: Police Captains & hamsters
At 09:23 PM 4/15/96 -0700, Bonnela Pardoe wrote:
>Has there been a discussion, now that we are more than half way through
>season three about each of the police captains -- Stonetree, Cohen, and
>Reese? Who do you guys think is the best of the three and why?
I'd have to vote for Reese. While I was pleased to see a female captain,
Cohen's personality was a little too bland for me. Stonetree was certainly
not bland, but didn't have the sense of humor (IMHO) that Captain Reese has
shown once or twice. Reese is also the only one of the three that I think
I'd like as a friend or boss. Now if the poor guy could just get those two
to Work Together! :-)
Yours in Vaquera-hood,
^v^Janice^v^
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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 20:24:39 -0500
From: Margie Hammet <treeleaf@i.......>
Subject: Re: OIY!
>This is why I dropped the suckers and went further into debt for a
>satellite dish. A SciFi employee at the San Francisco World Con a few
>years back said TCI *won't* add any new channels they don't own a piece of,
>and USA won't sell pieces of SciFi.
If this really is TCI's attitude, it's obnoxious. I suggest you write to
them, cite that policy, and regretfully inform them that as a result of
their attitude, you will be forced to buy a satellite dish, and you will
not be able to afford both _their_ service and the satellite service.
With the competition from RCA's satellite services, cable companies may no
longer be able to afford that attitude.
OBFK - Things I Learned List -
The best revenge is revenge.
The man who studies revenge keeps his own wounds green.
Decide for yourself.
Margie Hammet (treeleaf@i.......)
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 01:41:41 GMT
From: Karen Parker <horcgal@u.......>
Subject: FEVER
Hi, before I post a question/observation can someone tell me if Fever is
out of spoiler protection yet?
thanks!
Karen
horcgal@u.......
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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 21:43:52 -0400
From: Susan Honig <Susankenn@a.......>
Subject: The fear of new episodes
I for one are dying to see the new episodes. However, a little part of me is
really does not want to see them just yet.
I know once I see the four, there will be no more new ones for a long time to
come. I for one plan on having at least some movies -but how long to wait.
Its nice knowing that I have at least 4 new ones to look forward to. However,
once they pass -what a dry spell that will be.
I hope that we will start discussing the first season episodes as they repeat
on Scifi.
I came on this list when Blackwing first was shown. I have been a fan of the
show since the inception so I have seen all the episodes. However, I can see
from what I got out of the discussions on the 3rd season all the moot points
I may have missed.
I would really enjoy picking apart, analzying the first and second season the
way we did with the third.
I just want to say to everyone how much I really enjoy the FK lists. Without
them I would have gone totally overboard this tax season. The lists kept me
sane (if being a FK addict is sane).
You know you have it bad when you get into a discussion with one of your
students about FK vs the kindred.
Sue
Susankenn@a.......
Forever knighite- looking forward to the Shrew and the Gerthering.
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 01:58:04 GMT
From: Karen Parker <horcgal@u.......>
Subject: FEVER
Great! I get to post something without a reprimand! Take a picture, this is
a first for me!!!!!
Ok, I just wanted to know if anyone noticed that Tracy looked like she was
"repulsed" by Vachon when he first started touching her. At the very end
she started to "get into it" a little. But when he first started touching
her hair and neck and whispering in her ear she had this look of total
disgust on her face. Now she acts like she likes the guy, actually she acts
like she's head over heels for him, but yet she acts repulsed by his touch.
Another thing, she isnt a very accepting person. Now
everyone here knows that in a relationship, if you care even remotely for
someone, part of the relationship is acceptance, right? Well, she cant even
say the word "vampire" Ok, so maybe she thinks vampires are "bad" things,
and maybe she wishes he wasnt one. But the fact is, He is and if she truly
cares for him she should accept it and get over it.
Well, my mailbox is freshly cleaned and has plenty of room, so
now all the Tracy-ettes or whatever (still can never remember those
factions.) can jump on me about this post.
Karen
horcgal@u.......
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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 18:41:14 PST
From: June Russell <Kat@g.......>
Subject: Re: Nick biting Marian
I just rewatched Blackwing paying special attention to the scene where he
might have bitten her. I don't think he did. Although his eyes as he came up
were glowing, he didn't go to her neck with his fangs bared the way he
usually did. He also didn't have his fangs when he came up or any blood on
his lips/chin. Besides, how would he explain to Jess who was standing over
him (and to the other police who were probably on their way) how the teeth
marks got there.
I think that he did any "exchanges" of blood/killer-instinct/whatever on the
spirit plane as he laid her to rest. Jess knew that he had taken it all back
(or that's what he said) but he didn't say anything about noticing
suspicious vamp marks. Wouldn't have needed vamp marks on the spirit plane.
Kat
Kat ( June Russell )
pacifier.com!grendal!kat kat@g.......
Heu! Tintinnuntius meus Sonat!
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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 18:49:07 PST
From: June Russell <Kat@g.......>
Subject: Re: OIY!
Valery asked:
:Does ANYONE with TCI have the SciFi Channel?
I have TCI here in Vancouver, WA. We have SciFi Channel (or I wouldn't have
known about where to find FK in the first place. I liked those USA
commercials they played on the SciFi channel.) Of course, it was Columbia
Cable to begin with (and I'll scream bloody murder if they lose the SciFi
channel. That and the Learning Channel are my favorite cable channels.)
ObFK: Now I'm wondering when some of the episodes are going to be rerun. My
husband accidently (unless it was the cats) taped over Games Vampires Play,
Human Factor and Avenging Angel. Argh!
Kat
Kat ( June Russell )
pacifier.com!grendal!kat kat@g.......
Heu! Tintinnuntius meus Sonat!
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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 21:00:38 -0500
From: D Echelbarger <gryphon@e.......>
Subject: Re: FEVER
>Hi, before I post a question/observation can someone tell me if Fever is
>out of spoiler protection yet?
Yes, it re-ran last weekend.
Diane E
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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 19:18:07 -0700
From: AKR <r.......@w.......>
Subject: Nat and Vampirism
(I'm moving this over from the spoiler list.)
On Tue, 16 Apr 1996, Deb Rowland wrote:
> But when Nick doubled over in pain in NiQ <snip> IF she was being
> truly scientific she would have mixed up up a protein shake or given
> him a hamburger to see if that would have helped.
Ummmm... you want her to hand the man she loves a protein shake while
he's doubled over in pain just to *see* if it helps...? :)
Natalie's occasional violations of scientific and medical principles,
are, in the real world, poorly-thought-out plot devices. In FK, they have
all been the results of either emotional involvement or overconfidence, which
have become parts of the personality we know and love. As to scientific
rationalism, Nat *knows* that when Nick is like that, blood helps. She
probably believes that it's to some degree psychological, but she's not going
to just let him suffer... On the other hand, her willingness to give him
blood may be another clue to the evolution of her view of vampirism. Perhaps
NiQ belongs in the progression: DK, OtL, AMPH, NiQ... and Fever?
*** Amy, Lady of the Knight (AKR) r.......@w....... ***
* Be Kind to Hamsters -- Observe the Four-Line Quote Limit *
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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 20:32:47 +0000
From: "Julene McDonald ( but i preffer Blondie )" <blondie@g.......>
Subject: Re: PARTY/Wake
Cousin Blondie
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"Here comes the woman with the look in her eye.
Raised on leather, flesh on her mind..."
-----------------"Devil Inside" (INXS)------------
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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 22:53:25 +0000
From: Karen Tobin <ktobin@t.......>
Subject: Re: L.A. Syndie channel?
On 16 Apr 96 at 18:43, Jean Graham wrote:
> Could someone (anyone) please e-mail me with info. on any syndie channels
> running FK in L.A.?
>
I sent this to Jean.
Karen, Knightie/Heartbreaker (ktobin@t......., http://www.tiac.net/users/ktobin)
Reference Librarian, Save Forever Knight Campaign/Almighty Address Goddess
Forever Knight has been cancelled. To help, email me
and/or visit: http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 23:07:39 -0400
From: Beth Brown <BKBVA@a.......>
Subject: Re: How much does Nat know?
In a message dated 96-04-16 19:27:57 EDT, you write:
>I think it has only been just over a year in DK; in a later 1st season ep
>(can't remember which) she mentions knowing him for a year and a half.
It's Dying to Know You. When the psychic (can't remember her name) thinks
she's going crazy from visions of Nick's past, Nat tells him he should tell
her the truth. She says "I've known you a year and a half, and I'm not
crazy" (or something close to that).
>... when she sees evidence that he knew a prominent
> figure from the past ... she seemed to roll her eyes, like, "Here we
> go again." I didn't have the feeling at that
I felt that was more a matter of, of all the things he has to remember, why
something like that first? Why not something more important?
>I've always had the feeling that he tells Nat
>*a lot* more than we viewers ever get to hear!
I assumed that was a given fact from the first time I saw it, but that's what
happens when you come in at the third season. But I still believe it.
Beth
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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 22:27:17 -0600
From: Sharon Joy <SJoy@u.......>
Subject: Re: How do I explain?
>How the heck do I explain last night? Suggestions? Anyone?
Just want to put in my $.02. While I wasn't there on Sat night, I enjoyed
reading it on Sun morning. I'm not a pay-by-line person (or even a pay
person) so that's not my complaint - although I do understand those who
are.
Just wanted to say, though, that the spontaneous explosion of silliness is
a natural phenonmenon that happens with good friends/family who let their
selves hang loose and get silly. So we're a bunch of good friends/family
here. That's ok by me. It's easy to delete if it gets too much.
Still like it here.
---Sharon
--------Sharon Joy - A Forever Knightie - SJoy@u.......
There's a past and-----there's a past...
Go here: http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 20:23:05 -0700
From: Dee Davidson <dmd@a.......>
Subject: Re: The fear of new episodes
Susan Honig wrote:
>I know once I see the four, there will be no more new ones for a
>long time to come.
Not for me, I missed ALL of the first season and almost half of the second
so I am very excited about FK being on sci-fi.
>Its nice knowing that I have at least 4 new ones to look forward to. However,
>once they pass -what a dry spell that will be.
Personally, I can't wait, I'm really sick of reruns. I'm only looking
forward to 2, Outside the lines, cuz my tape is messed up, and Human
Factor, which I missed.
Dee * Cousin * Valentine *
dmd@a....... http://www.aracnet.com/~dmd/
http://www.aracnet.com/~dmd/fkpage2.html
********************************************************
Someone remind me to never turn down another con again, ok Denise?:)
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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 20:41:53 -0700
From: Dee Davidson <dmd@a.......>
Subject: Re: Fourth Season Eps.
>I think we should get a mortal boyfriend for Nat too. Then,
>Nick could go be an immortal 'ho, trying to get back at her.
>
yep, I agree *snicker* Nick should become an *giggle* immortal 'ho
*bhahaha*. I can picture LC telling him: "Really Nicolas..." Anyone want to add
to that? Come on, I know you want to<eg>
"Give in to what you are!" :) Or do I see some possible fanfic here?
Hmmm?
Ok, I'm slowly starting to get my sense of humor back in spite of missing Nigel
at the con. Nope, now I'm depressed again.
Dee * Cousin * Valentine *
dmd@a....... http://www.aracnet.com/~dmd/
http://www.aracnet.com/~dmd/fkpage2.html
****I will write: I will never miss another con again 100 times. I will never
miss another con again. Too bad, 4 line limit on sigs:P
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"If you think I tormented you in the past my little friends, wait
until you see what I do with you now!" Q
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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 22:44:56 -0600
From: Sharon Joy <SJoy@u.......>
Subject: Sorry, y'all
>>How the heck do I explain last night? Suggestions? Anyone?
>Just want to put in my $.02. While I wasn't there on Sat night.....
Sorry y'all. I wrote that last post on Sunday night. My connection was
acting up and I finally got on tonight. That message was queued and got
sent before I could grab it. It's past the fact by now. Time moves so
quickly on the list...
Anyway, sorry for the late post on a discussion that's been closed for at
least 24 hours.
Regards to all.
---Sharon
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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 20:57:34 -0700
From: Mary Wilkerson <wilkersn@i.......>
Subject: Re: OIY!
You wrote:
>
>>This is why I dropped the suckers and went further into debt for a
>>satellite dish. A SciFi employee at the San Francisco World Con a few
>>years back said TCI *won't* add any new channels they don't own a piece of,
>>and USA won't sell pieces of SciFi.
>
>If this really is TCI's attitude, it's obnoxious. I suggest you write to
>them, cite that policy, and regretfully inform them that as a result of
>their attitude, you will be forced to buy a satellite dish, and you will
>not be able to afford both _their_ service and the satellite service.
>With the competition from RCA's satellite services, cable companies may no
>longer be able to afford that attitude.
That's pretty much what we did after getting the run around from TCI
for several years. I was sooo pleased to be able to tell them that I
was dropping their service (except for local stations) in favor of my
new satellite system.
Mary W.
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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 22:04:44 +0000
From: "Julene McDonald ( but i preffer Blondie )" <blondie@g.......>
Subject: too much F.K.....
sometime today i went to the local Randall's and saw the word "Fever"
in big red and black paint and thought to myself,"Forever Knight...?
Lab rats....? Here at a grocery store? Cool!" i believe i've just had
my first "You know you've been watching too much Forever Knight
when...." the killer thing was, that it was an advertisement for fan
support for the Houston Astro baseball team!!!! go figure.
Cousin Blondie
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"Here comes the woman with the look in her eye.
Raised on leather, flesh on her mind..."
-----------------"Devil Inside" (INXS)------------
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