FORKNI-L
Digest - 17 Apr 1996 - Special issue
Wed, 17 Apr 1996
There are 38 messages totalling 1012 lines in this issue.
Topics in this special issue:
1. Nick's sins (3)
2. Blu Mankuma
3. Curiouser & Curiouser
4. Nightcrawler on CD?
5. Amanda in Flatliners
6. FORKNI-L Digest - 16 Apr 1996
7. GWD on Prodigy
8. Police Captains
9. Vampire Poll Results
10. Suggestion Sent to Dominion (Sci-Fi Channel Web Site)
11. OIY! (2)
12. Curiouser and Curiouser (2)
13. TCI War Campaign
14. Nick and Faith
15. How much does Nat know?
16. Uncle in Baltimore?
17. FORKNI-L Digest - 16 Apr 1996 to 17 Apr 1996 - Special issue
18. Nick's possible religious views
19. Syndicon East?
20. Build own annotated list of FK episodes. Free software.
21. <No subject given> (2)
22. Nick Knight video stills?
23. Nick and religion, take 2
24. Nick's views
25. Question?
26. Nick's past; Blackwing
27. Top 15 for the FK Soundtrack
28. FK home page unavailable 4/19
29. Nick's chest
30. Blackwing
31. Forever Knight schedule (fwd)
32. Nick's Sins
33. Part needed
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 00:25:33 -0400
From: Sharon Scott <Sss44@a.......>
Subject: Re: Nick's sins
The water used in Baptist baptisms isn't blessed & isn't holy water, so it
shouldn't bother a vampire.
Personally, I wouldn't mind a little underwater wrestling in a baptistry (or
anywhere else, for that matter) with Nick. <evil grin>
That brings to mind the fact that we haven't ever seen a bathing scene in FK,
other than Nick washing his face and Sydney washing his paws. I remember
somebody telling me that at the Toronto Trek where Ger was a guest, he
brought up the question of why nobody on FK ever takes a bath, and wondered
if Nick licked himself clean like a cat. Now *there's* a mental picture.
I must correct Wicked Cousin Tippi--Pasadena would be a great place for
vampires. They could chase each other up and over and around the battleship.
Or take turns pushing one another off the top of the San Jacinto Monument.
:-)
Scottie (who's listening to Dark Side of the Glass for the 437th time
tonight)
scotts@b....... or sss44@a.......
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 00:36:12 -0400
From: "M. Vrzoc" <vrzoc@s.......>
Subject: Re: Blu Mankuma
You will enjoy the appearance of Blu on KF:TLC especially if you like
blues. The title of the episode is Kung Fu Blues.
M. Vrzoc (vrzoc@u.......) | Just a little off the top!
| -- A. Boleyn
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 02:12:31 -0230
From: Paula Hurley <phurley@b.......>
Subject: Re: Curiouser & Curiouser
On Tue, 16 Apr 1996, Cyberspace Vanguard Magazine wrote:
> BTW, I think my copy is cut off. The last thing I've got is Nick asking
> Cohen, "Yeah, but how do you get rid of guilt?"
> Am I missing anything?
Yes, if I recall you are missing the last bit of the tag where we see
Lewis(as a normal cop) coming up to the captain to report a murder, and
she says it's at a radio station, then the final shot is of Nick with
this look of surprise and dread on his face. Kinda like deja vu.
Paula
phurley@b.......
Dark Knightie * Light Cousin * Valentine * Nick&NatPacker *
"It's ALWAYS about you!" - LaCroix in Can't Run, Can't Hide
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 01:07:40 -0400
From: Fred Mollin <ZOOMAR1010@a.......>
Subject: Re: Nightcrawler on CD?
Nigel wrote his own copy for the CD narration.
Pretty great stuff and a nice way to segue into the score..
take care
Fred
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 01:11:57 -0400
From: Janette Z <Janette92@a.......>
Subject: Amanda in Flatliners
I have a question!!!! (aren't you glad you know that?) Anyway, I just
watched Flatliners and I could have SWORN that the doctor\teacher was the
same person who played Amanda, unfortunately I don't have the credits on
tape, so could someone tell me if I'm nuts as usual or if it was really the
same person?
Ravenette, Immortal Beloved,
Seducer, CO-CFW for Evil
MacLeod, Richie Reservist,
Janette92@a.......
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 01:20:22 -0400
From: Fred Mollin <ZOOMAR1010@a.......>
Subject: Re: FORKNI-L Digest - 16 Apr 1996
Dear List Members.
I have been away for a vacation and I am back in Toronto now.
I saved all the requests for autographed photos, but AOL must erase old mail
that's held as new after a few weeks.
I'm very sorry for the dealy, but now I need the requests and addresses
again...
thanks for your patience
Fred Mollin
zoomar1010@a.......
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 01:35:27 EDT
From: NANCY A HILL <GNHG90A@p.......>
Subject: GWD on Prodigy
Hi all,
I have been lurking on this list for about two weeks now. So far I
have found it most enjoyable. Anyway, I was just looking at some
things on Prodigy and I ran across an announcement that Geraint Wyn
Davies is supposed to be in the Pseudo chat area tomorrow, April 18
at 8:00 EST. I think he will be in the Hotseat Auditorium. I am
going to try and log the chat. Forgive me if this is old news, I am
about 4 days behind on reading my mail. I will catch up someday!
Nancy Hill <GNHG90A@p.......>
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 00:48:34 -0500
From: Sandra Gray <TMP_HARKINS@d.......>
Subject: Re: Police Captains
I liked Stonetree the best, but Reese is a close second. I never
could get into Cohen. Maybe if the writers had done more with her,
I might have liked her. But she seemed to me, as someone termed
earlier, too *one note*.
I have to go no mail on this list and the fic list for a while (but
I'll still be reading spoiler). Amy, Dotti, Allison, other
Knighties, and other Nick appreciators--hold the lines of defense
against Nick attacks in my absence, okay?
--Sandra Gray, forever Knightie
--tmp_harkins@d.......
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 03:23:13 -0400
From: Ray Heuer <RayHeuer@a.......>
Subject: Vampire Poll Results
Well, folks - the votes have been tallied.
Oddly, the votes tended to group together. I got a lot of 'No" votes at
first, then a flood of 'Yes' votes, then a flood of 'No' votes. Anyway,
without further ado.........
THE RESULTS!!
Yes, I believe Vampires exist - 15
No, I don't believe they do - 9
Undecided/Maybe - 2
Most of the 'no' votes added a line to the effect of 'I wish they did' or
'Maybe in the next Universe over'. It seems we all *want* Vampires to exist.
After all, without them, life would be so boring.
-- Ray
Nat Vamp Camp
I BELIEVE!!
Rage! Rage! Against the dying of the Knight!
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 01:36:13 -0700
From: Debbie Litchman <Debbie8@e.......>
Subject: Suggestion Sent to Dominion (Sci-Fi Channel Web Site)
The Creature from the Programming Department wrote:
>
> This is well worth watching, no question. But I figured this would get
> so much publicity, commercial air time, etc. that everyone would find out
> about it without me. I try to let people know about some of the less
> obviously good things to watch. Heck, I didn't make the Star Wars
> Trilogy a tip either, and we all know how great that is.
>
> Hope you'll be watching FK on Monday! And thanks for your suggestion.
>
> On Mon, 8 Apr 1996, Debbie Litchman wrote:
>
> > How about including the 4/22/96 premier of Forever Knight on the
> > Sci-Fi Channel.
> >
> > All fans of the vampire gendre will enjoy this show.
> >
> > Plus, it's the first showing :)
> >
I received the above e-mail in response to suggestion that the Sci-Fi
Channel Web Site announce on "The Creature from the Programming Dept"
page which announces "hidden treasures of the Sci-Fi Channel".
I'm not sure if this is a good thing or a bad thing. (Yes, I know
how to spell genre but my finger were faster than my brain and my e-mail
server doesn't have "spell-check")
Debbie8@e.......
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 17:23:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: The Creature from the Programming Department <creature@s.......>
To: Debbie Litchman <Debbie8@e.......>
Subject: Re: Suggestion
This is well worth watching, no question. But I figured this would get
so much publicity, commercial air time, etc. that everyone would find out
about it without me. I try to let people know about some of the less
obviously good things to watch. Heck, I didn't make the Star Wars
Trilogy a tip either, and we all know how great that is.
Hope you'll be watching FK on Monday! And thanks for your suggestion.
On Mon, 8 Apr 1996, Debbie Litchman wrote:
> How about including the 4/22/96 premier of Forever Knight on the
> Sci-Fi Channel.
>
> All fans of the vampire gendre will enjoy this show.
>
> Plus, it's the first showing :)
>
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 03:38:33 -0500
From: Lady Sushi <phoenix@i.......>
Subject: Re: OIY!
>I do!! We've been trying (in vain) to get them to carry SFC here in
>Tucson for *years* and they keep putting us off by saying 'we'll add your
>name to the list.' Yeah, right. Where's Uncle when you need him?
>Kathy
Hmmmm... wanna start a mail barrage on TCI HQ? Just let them know we're out
here, we're angry, and, dammit, we want our Sci-Fi Channel (or else).
Anyone know WHERE their headquaters are?
ObFK: YKYBWTMFKW... a friend of yours is telling you about her dogs. She
mentions that one's perky and the other's neurotic. You immediately think
of Nick and Tracy and wonder what Perri's been doing...
Cousin "Susan" Phoenix, Camera Fanatic of the Thong Throng, Unnamed
phoenix@i.......
Tell me what that "sleep" thing is again?
**Don't repeat yourself, and stop being redundant.**
...And starring Patrick O'Brien as Satan.
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 05:07:30 -0400
From: Rebecca Howle <jhhowle@e.......>
Subject: Re: Curiouser and Curiouser
The mad hatter guy (I didn't imagine it) is in the scene when Nick walks
into the Raven the first time after his world is completely shook up. He's
sitting all the way at the end of the bar and has a big hat and is playing
with a deck of cards (more alice in wonderland stuff).
Also yes all the lights are pink in wonderland including the one in the fridge.
There were some more references in there that I don't know if anyone posted
before so if it's already been said chalk it up to sleep deprivation on my part.
On Nick's fireplace there was a carving of a rabbits head.
At Nat's place the chess set was made up of Wonderland characters
In Nick's fridge was a cake (remember alice had to eat the cake)
That's all I spotted for now, but I'm sure there are plenty more hidden
somewhere in the episode.
Rebecca
Hotel Goddess for the Shrewthering, Dark Knightie-all the fun of liking Nick
without all the guilt and angst. Blue Meanie owner
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 04:18:20 -0500
From: Kim Bjarkman <flowper@o.......>
Subject: Re: Curiouser and Curiouser
Rebecca wrote:
> On Nick's fireplace there was a carving of a rabbits head.
> At Nat's place the chess set was made up of Wonderland characters
> In Nick's fridge was a cake (remember alice had to eat the cake)
Did anyone mention the painting above Nat's fireplace -- I believe
that's the real Alice. Also, there's a magnet on Nick's fridge (yet
to be clearly identified), which someone tells me is a walrus; I can't
really tell.
Kim B.
flowper@o.......
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 05:34:31 -0500
From: Lady Sushi <phoenix@i.......>
Subject: TCI War Campaign
I officially declare the TCI (and other non-SciFi Cable companies) War. Due
to TCI's closed-minded approach to the Sci-Fi channel, we are going to
bombard them with letters (both local and national HQs), e-mail (if
possible), petitions, and whatnot until we get our Forever Knight! Intro TV
doesn't cut it, what few get that (they show Sci-Fi for about four hours on
monday nights. The OTHER half of Tulsa gets it), and neither do syndies
(duh). I'm going to call my local TCI branch ASAP and get their mailing
address and the address of the TCI central HQ. I encourage you to do the
same. I'll post the central address when I get it, and probably Tulsa's.
'Tis time for war, my people, a war the likes have ne'er been seen before.
Cousin "Susan" Phoenix, Camera Fanatic of the Thong Throng, Unnamed
phoenix@i.......
Tell me what that "sleep" thing is again?
**Don't repeat yourself, and stop being redundant.**
...And starring Patrick O'Brien as Satan.
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 07:20:24 EDT
From: Tanya Smith <bodybldr@v.......>
Subject: Nick and Faith
I do not believe Nick is a fallen away Catholic, because that would suggest
that he adheres to a particular denomination's rituals.
I believe Nick MAY BE a fallen away Christian. I say he is agnostic because
he is so quick to doubt his own beliefs--he has no proof that God exists
(if he did, I believe he would be in church) but does not deny that God
could exist. These flashbacks are what I would call "social conditioning".
In the centuries Nick lived through it was hard to avoid being conditioned
when Christianity was forced down your throat (Johnathan (?) Sinners in
the Hands of an Angry God is a perfect example).
However, in the last century society has permitted people to choose their
beliefs. I think Nick is now doubting, questioning, trying to decide if
there is a God, and if so, what is he like?
He is working on erasing those tapes playing in his head.
I think that Nick will realize that there is a God, and that he is a loving
and caring deity. I wrote one Fanfic piece, only to answer that question
for Nick, since I doubt the writers will answer it for him.
BTW, I don't think Nick's guilt is warranted IF he believes (as you assert
that he does). I don't recall that anywhere in the Bible it tells us
that it is good to feel guilty after we have repented. If you have that
passage handy, I'd be interested in reading it.
Your Baptist friend.
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 08:11:15 -0400
From: Carrie Krumtum <CKrumtum@g.......>
Subject: Re: How much does Nat know?
>He may be more forthcoming with Nat now, but I bet he still judges
>what he wants to say about his past before saying it.
>
>--Sandra Gray, forever Knightie
I agree. In ND, while in the morgue Nick says, "There's something I never
told you Nat, about the night LaCroix brought me across...." He then told her
how he had chosen to come back as a vampire.
Carrie, Proud Knightie
CKrumtum@g.......
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 08:44:41 -0400
From: Polly Lynn <plynn@p.......>
Subject: Uncle in Baltimore?
Delurking.
As a Baltimoron born and bred, when and where is Uncle coming to Baltimore
(Bawlmoor to us natives)?
Polly (Vaquera)
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 09:56:45 -0400
From: Jamie Melody Randell <immajer@p.......>
Subject: Re: FORKNI-L Digest - 16 Apr 1996 to 17 Apr 1996 - Special issue
Linda wrote:
>(Alright, you're a sympathetic group, right?)
>I've just experienced the rush of receiving the CD in the mail, and
>friends-----I don't own a CD player.
Crescendo sells cassettes, too....
Sharon Joy wrote:
>Anyway, sorry for the late post on a discussion that's been closed for at
>least 24 hours.
(insert sound of sarcastic laughter here) Glad it is in your world...
The Saturday Knight Live loop still has plenty of room for more
contributors to the madness! If you want to be part of a private e-mail
loop where being off-topic is mandatory, e-mail me for info!
--
------- Jamie M.R. <immajer@p.......> -------
-Illustrated Webgoddess & Keeper of Warm Fuzzies-
------ Ask me about 'Saturday Knight Live'! -----
The private e-mail loop where EVERYONE is welcome
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 10:07:28 EDT
From: Lisa McDavid <D020214@u.......>
Subject: Nick's possible religious views
Tanya Smith writes:
>In the centuries Nick lived through it was hard to avoid being conditioned
>when Christianity was forced down your throat (Johnathan (?) Sinners in
>the Hands of an Angry God is a perfect example).
Actually, when Nick was a mortal, Brabant was a Christian state like most
of northwestern Europe. The only kind of Christianity permitted in such
states in the 13th century was Roman Catholicism, since this is about
two and a half centuries before the Reformation. So whatever Nick's
mortal religious views, he has to have started out as a Catholic.
Jonathan Edwards, who preached the sermon Sinners in the Hands of an
Angry God four hundred years after Nick's mortal life, was not
forcing religion down anyone's throat. He lived in colonial Massachusetts,
a theocracy founded for Puritans by Puritans. Only the Church of England
was grudgingly tolerated because it was a British colony and that
was more or less limited to Boston. Puritanism was a movement within
the Church of England which sought to purify all ritual, liturgy,
and hierarchical government from the C of E, hence the name. It was
heavily Calvinist, which taught at the time that some people were
foreordained to damnation. This is not to say that there was no
dissent in colonial Massachusetts -- at least two Quakers were hanged
and of course Rhode Island was founded by a refugee from Massachusetts
-- but it was the exception rather than the rule.
Tanya also writes
>However, in the last century society has permitted people to choose their
>beliefs. <snip>
Actually, Catholics and Lutherans agreed to live together in peace in
16th century in Germany. England granted freedom of religion to all
the Protestant faiths and to Jews in 1660 as part of the Restoration
of Charles II. Catholics were still officially not tolerated, but in
practice they were simply the right to hold office, vote, serve in
the army or navy, or attend universities. They were no longer in danger
of their lives.
Until the Edict of Nantes was revoked at the end of the 1th century,
French Protestants were free to worship.
So Nick has had centuries to learn to think for himself religiously
if he wants to and more importantly, to learn toleration. I have always
thought that Nick does mean to portray Nick as having some faith, but
being doubt-plagued. If he didn't believe in anything, I don't see how
he could fear damnation, as distinct from death. He asks Joan of Arc
how she can be so sure that her god will be waiting for her after death,
but many Christians have wondered that over the years. Heck, my minister
talked in last Sunday's sermon about his own doubts while in seminary.
Honest doubt is not a sin. The possible sin would be in what he might
do if he acted on that doubt -- like becoming a vampire and spending
several centuries "preying on mortals for their blood." :)
Cousin Lisa -- "That will be trouble."
Lisa McDavid
mcdavid-lisa@s.......
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 10:31:17 EDT
From: Lisa McDavid <D020214@u.......>
Subject: Syndicon East?
I probably should be placed in a padded cell just for even thinking of
this, but Baltimore is at the upper end of my range for driving to a
con. Does anyone have information, preferrably a flyer, on Syndicon
East?
If I go, anyone from the list should have no trouble identifying me.
I'll be the one wearing a straitjacket and a gag to keep me from bidding
at the auction.
Cousin Lisa -- "That will be trouble."
Lisa McDavid
mcdavid-lisa@s.......
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 09:47:00 CDT
From: caroline nachman <caroline@s.......>
Subject: Build own annotated list of FK episodes. Free software.
When you enjoy and follow a TV series as much as this one, it makes sense
to keep a simple list of episodes -- the ones you've seen or the ones you
especially liked.
Of course there are short, cut-and-dried outlines
available, like the ones in TV guide. But it's your own ideas, your own
perception and analysis that are important.
Include plot, main characters and guest stars. Add your own comments about
the episode. Once you have entered a few episodes on your list, it's really
enjoyable to browse through your notes, add more comments, scan the index.
There's nothing like your own annotated directory of episodes!
There's free software available that makes this easy to do. It's called
SquareNote3.5. You can download it at "http://sqn.com" or get details by
emailing "sqn35net@s.......". It's pretty simple to use.
Have fun!
Stephanie Mora [email "stephanie@s......." -- SF forever!]
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 10:56:35 EDT
From: Tanya Smith <bodybldr@v.......>
Subject: <No subject given>
Subject:Nick's religious views
It's good that you know history so well. But just a quick reminder why
our country was founded in the first place...protestants were being persecuted
in England for their faith.
True religious freedom, without any social reprocussions, has only been
recent.For example: prayer in schools, abortion, women's liberation, sexual
freedom. All of these legislated issues are based on morality derived from
religion.
Of course, all denominations are derived from Catholicism. It was the
founding faith.
But what I was arguing is what makes one Catholic? Attending the Catholic
church? That's like saying a Baptist is a person who attends the Baptist
church.
The issue is much deeper than that. It involves identification with theology,
morality, etc established by a denomination.
Nick may or may not have been "Catholic". He may or may not have been
"religious". He may or may not have been "spiritual".
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 11:16:38 -0400
From: "Gaylin J. Walli" <gjwalli@m.......>
Subject: Nick Knight video stills?
I don't suppose anyone has bothered to do a video capture or two of
key scenes from the first pilot, Nick Knight? If anyone has one or
two of these lying around, could you contact me via private e-mail
please?
Thanks in advance,
Jasmine, Faithful Ravenette, gjwalli@m.......
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 08:21:24 -0700
From: Valery King <kingv@u.......>
Subject: Re: OIY!
On Wed, 17 Apr 1996, Lady Sushi wrote:
> Hmmmm... wanna start a mail barrage on TCI HQ? Just let them know we're out
> here, we're angry, and, dammit, we want our Sci-Fi Channel (or else).
> Anyone know WHERE their headquaters are?
Susan, since several people have said their TCI DOES carry SciFi (I'm
glad to find out that some of the local TCIs *have* changed their
attitude!), I think there might actually be some hope for the others.
This is a terrific idea! Add these guys to the SOS-FK mailing list, and
lots of other SF fans with TCI will thank us if we're successful. I'll
try to discover the corporate HQ address (unless somebody beats me to it).
ObFK: JANE DOE is scheduled for Monday morning's satellite feed! At last! A
new episode! I'm just dreading the dry spell we're going to get after the
remaing 4 show :(
Cheers!
Valery
kingv@u.......
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 11:20:23 EDT
From: Lisa McDavid <D020214@u.......>
Subject: Nick and religion, take 2
Tanya Smith writes in answer to my comments on Nick's possible religious
views:
><snip> But just a quick reminder why
>our country was founded in the first place...protestants were being persecuted
>in England for their faith.
Well, not really. The first English American colony, Virginia, was
founded for economic reasons in 1607. The Puritans didn't arrive in
Massachusetts until 1620.
If you mean that Protestants were being persecuted by Catholics, that
stopped with the accession of Elizabeth I, in November of 1558, about
50 years earlier than the English colonization of what became the United
States. The first colony, the "Lost Colony" which failed in the 1580's,
was in the reign of Elizabeth I. The Puritans did leave England because
of problems with the Church of England, which was and is the state
church, but the Church of England is a Protestant church. It's the
one from which the Episcopal Church (full name, Protestant Episcopal
Church in the United States of America) derives. It's called Anglican
in Canada. Remember Henry the VIII of the Nine Wives? :) He went Protestant
and declared the church in England independent of Rome in the 1530's.
His son Edward VI, who succeeded him, had been raised a radical
Protestant. When Edward died without heirs, he was succeeded by his
older Catholic half sister Mary I ("Bloody Mary"). She did persecute
Protestants, but after her death England was never again Catholic and
Catholics were subject to various kinds of persecution or civil disabilities
until the 1830's.
Tanya also says:
>Nick may or may not have been "Catholic". He may or may not have been
>"religious". He may or may not have been "spiritual".
We'll have to agree to disagree. I honestly can't see how a person could
be described as a Christian in 13th century Western Europe without also
being a Catholic. And to refer to something I didn't quote, yes, I would
say that going to a Baptist Church of one's own volition makes one a
Baptist, or whatever denominational name is used to fill in the blanks.
I didn't actually say flatly that Nick was religious as a mortal. I said
I thought Ger was playing him that way. That's my opinion, and of course
I never said I thought anyone else should share it. It's also my opinion
that Nick, now, is spiritual. This is a point I didn't address, but now
that it's brought up again, that's what I think I see. YMMV.
Cousin Lisa -- "That will be trouble."
Lisa McDavid
mcdavid-lisa@s.......
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 08:34:34 PST
From: June Russell <Kat@g.......>
Subject: Re: Nick's sins
:That brings to mind the fact that we haven't ever seen a bathing scene in FK,
:other than Nick washing his face and Sydney washing his paws. I remember
:somebody telling me that at the Toronto Trek where Ger was a guest, he
:brought up the question of why nobody on FK ever takes a bath, and wondered
:if Nick licked himself clean like a cat. Now *there's* a mental picture.
Well, we know that Vachon was showering at Tracy's house (we heard the water
and saw him toweling off afterwards.)
It sure looked like Nick had just stepped out of the shower (from the look
of his hair and the towel around his neck) in Fever when Vachon comes to ask
him for Natalie's help.
Of course, it would be rather more than we usual get on TV to actually *see*
someone in the shower (except in soap commercials).
Kat
Kat ( June Russell )
pacifier.com!grendal!kat kat@g.......
Heu! Tintinnuntius meus Sonat!
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 11:53:08 EDT
From: Tanya Smith <bodybldr@v.......>
Subject: Nick's views
I believe we differentiate in our approach to Nick's predicament. You are
coming from a historical perspective, I am coming from a political/
philosophical perspective. Most likely we can never agree because according
to governmental legislation, you are correct. However, political theorists
argue that religious freedom is a recent occurence, much like slavery was
outlawed in the 1800's, but one could argue it wasn't until the Watt's
riots/Alabama march in the 1960's that Afro-Americans really became free.
I would still suggest that Nick didn't feel comfortable expressing his
doubts until recently, when society has made atheism and agnosticism a
permittable expression of "religion".
Tanya
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 12:35:02 EDT
From: MISS YOLANDA RIVERA <YHUX14C@p.......>
Subject: Question?
A friend has a question about "Human Factor" but I can't remember if
it's spoiler protected or not. Can someone help?
I just got my CD. It's wonderful. I've listened to it twice so far.
I got my CD, I'm going to the Gerthering....... now if I could just
get Sci -Fi channel and some fourth season eps..........<sigh>
yolanda
"If you want someone to love you, open your heart. If you want
someone to be obsessed with you, close it." Jim Profit from"Profit"
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 12:55:10 -0400
From: Allison Percy <percy91@w.......>
Subject: Nick's past; Blackwing
(a) Why doesn't Nick tell Nat more about his past
It seems to me that Nick is afraid to tell Nat too much detail about his
past out of fear that she'll decide he really *is* a monster. He has
trouble believing that anyone could truly know him and still accept him.
If he can't accept/forgive himself, how can he bare his soul to anyone
else?
I think he's wrong about Nat -- she seems pretty understanding that he has
*changed*. But look at Tracy's reaction when Vachon tells her about what
he did after he was brought across. When he tells her that he tried to
kill the Inca and ran away from responsibility, she said she didn't like
him anymore. Just imagine how Tracy would respond if Vachon told her more
about his past as a vampire -- for example, about that snack he and the
boys had at the expense of some barmaids in a flashback (from MBIAV?? I
can never keep straight which flashbacks occur in which episodes). She
seems easily disappointed.
(b) Blackwing and transference of the Vampire into Marian
I finally got around to re-watching "Blackwing" last night. I'm not
horribly fond of this episode, mostly because the attraction between Nick
and Marian didn't make sense to me. It made more sense when I thought of
Nick being magically seduced, but still... I didn't really buy it.
That aside, I was paying attention to whether Nick ever actually bit
Marian in either the real world or the spirit plane. That might explain
how Marian got some of Nick's vampire powers or urges (so that she was
able to take revenge for her grandfather's death). But I didn't see any
biting at all. As far as I could tell, any transference of the Vampire
occurred was through kissing. <g> There was a very hot & heavy kiss in
the Spirit Walk, right before Nick saw blood on his hands. So some
elements of the Vampire can be transferred through smooching. Any
volunteers for an empirical test of this theory??? <bg>
* Allison Percy, a perky Knightie percy91@w....... *
* Shrewthering info: http://assets.wharton.upenn.edu/~percy91/shrew.html *
* "You can take the boy out of the 13th century, but you can't take the *
* 13th century out of the boy...." Bruce Rawitch *
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 13:30:04 -0400
From: Allison Percy <percy91@w.......>
Subject: Top 15 for the FK Soundtrack
Yesterday my long-awaited FK soundtrack CD and cassette arrived. Before
I totally wear them out listening to them again & again, here are my...
***Top 15 Musical and Non-Musical Things About the FK Soundtrack***
Non-Musical Things:
15. Gorgeous photos of Catherine, Deborah, Nigel, Ger...
14. Taking the CD out of the case and seeing Nick pulling the Caddy's
trunk closed behind him.
13. Fred's dedication of the album to his Mom & Dad. I can just imagine
my own mother saying he must be "such a nice young man" to include that!
:^)
12. Also, the "sincere thanks to the fans (both in cyberspace and out)
for their unyielding enthusiasm." <g> A tenacious bunch, aren't we?!?
11. The background on Fred and the music -- there's lots of information
in the liner notes.
10. The goofy grin on Ger's face on Nick's police ID.
9. The cool shot of Fred playing the guitar. Gotta get an autographed
8x10 of this at some point! Oh, and also the very cool shot of Fred, JP,
and GWD leaning on the green Caddy in the sunlight!
Musical Things:
8. All of Track 18. The tambourine. The mournful oboe-like sound. The
delicate chimes. The "choir of many souls." It's so sad! <sniff!>
7. I'm including Nigel's voice as one of the musical things. <g> Best
line: "What a wonderful thing Humanity is -- passionate, intelligent,
inquisitive, generous, full of hope and joy, noble of spirit, and above
all, delicious!"
6. A truly high-quality music-only mix of the theme music. Terrific!
5. The overwhelming sense of angst and sadness created by most of the
tracks. Expecially "Nick's Piano Theme" (in track 7), but also the
middle of the suite from Queen of Harps (track 5), the suite from BMV
(track 11), the lullaby from Father Figure (track 12), and the suite from
Undue Process (track 18).
4. Tom-toms and kettledrums. I *love* the kettledrums. (Especially in
tracks 6 and 19.) And the exploding trash cans. Or were those just
kettledrums gone wild? Anyway, they scared my cat right out of the
room.
2. Track 16, "Time Stands Still" from Avenging Angel. Unique, haunting,
and compelling.
1. Favorite musical thing: "The Hunger" (track 2). Actually all the
Raven music (which also includes "Black Rose," "Touch the Night," and
"Dark Side of the Glass") but especially "The Hunger," IMO.
Many thanks to Fred and the others who worked so hard to put this
soundtrack together!
* Allison Percy, a perky Knightie percy91@w....... *
* Shrewthering info: http://assets.wharton.upenn.edu/~percy91/shrew.html *
* "To paraphrase the Hair Club for Men guy, 'I not only compose the music *
* for the show, I'm also a fan...'" Fred Mollin *
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 13:44:13 -0500
From: Stephanie Babbitt <stephanie.babbitt@g.......>
Subject: Re: Nick's sins
Re my irreverant comments about Nick being baptized:
>(what would Nick look like with a huge bald spot?).
Dotti replied:
>Oh, brother I can't even imagine. I guess it would depend on exactly where
>the bald spot was. He might end up looking like a monk - Good Day Brother
>Nicholas...
Or he might end up looking like his Daddy (LaCroix). <g>
Running as fast as I can from the Cousins...
Stephanie
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 13:33:09 -0400
From: "Gaylin J. Walli" <gjwalli@m.......>
Subject: FK home page unavailable 4/19
Just to let you guys know, our server is undergoing repairs
on 4/19/96 from noon until 8 pm Easter Daylight Time. If you
try to access the FK home page (www.hu.mtu.edu/~gjwalli/fktoc.html)
on that day, you'll probably get a big ol' error message.
Jasmine, Faithful Ravenette, gjwalli@m.......
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 14:12:13 -0500
From: Stephanie Babbitt <stephanie.babbitt@g.......>
Subject: Re: Nick's chest
In the dicussion of the possible stunt chest in NiQ, Sandra wrote:
>Regarding the Playgirl comment, for all we know Ger may feel that his
>body is not in as good a tone as it might have been for that play.
Could be. If I remember correctly, he said the play was in 1978. If his
birth year is when I think it is, he'd have been about 21 years old at the
time. I wonder if he was still at Upper Canada College then (which a
listmember noted is a rather, uh, conservative institution). If so, I'll
bet his appearance in that play went over like a lead balloon.
But back to the stunt chest. I happened to rewatch Dying to Know You last
night (I have an Nth-generation Canadian version). Near the end, Nick is
lying on the floor of his loft, wearing a robe, messing with a chess game.
He shoves the game to one side and lies on his back, looking up at the
skylight. The robe falls mostly open, and we get a pretty good look at his
chest (which is still clearly attached to his recogniziable head and arms)
<g>. At this point, Dotti swoons (right, Dotti?). Somewhat fuzzy tape
aside, it sure looks to me like the same chest we see in NiQ. Others with
better quality tapes may wish to review this scene and offer comparisons.
Regarding the chest hair: I'll bet what hair is there is very blond and
only shows up when lit from an angle (spoken by a woman with a blond
husband). Oh, well, out of the gutter and onward...
>As far as Nick's character dressing modestly to discourage interest
>in him sexually, gosh, it sure hasn't worked. ;)
I always figured he wore all the clothes to protect him from exposure to
the light. He does end up at the edges of sunrise and twilight quite often,
after all. I like what GWD said: "Nick Knight is the most clothed person on
television."
Back to work, as it were...
Stephanie Babbitt
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 11:01:00 PT
From: Tami Lafrank <tamilyn.lafrank@a.......>
Subject: Blackwing
>biting at all. As far as I could tell, any transference of the Vampire
>occurred was through kissing. <g> There was a very hot & heavy kiss in
>the Spirit Walk, right before Nick saw blood on his hands. So some
>
>* Allison Percy, a perky Knightie percy91@w....... *
I thought that it was transferred when she did the blood brother ritual of
slicing his and her arm and placing them together. This is what led into
all the hot and heavy kissing. An exchange of blood did occur and it is
the blood that makes a vampire.
Tami LaFrank
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 12:07:49 -0700
From: Heather Thornburg <penni@t.......>
Subject: Re: Forever Knight schedule (fwd)
Thought you all might be interested in this.
Heather <penni@w.......>
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 14:33:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: The Dominion Feedback <feedback@s.......>
To: Heather Thornburg <penni@w.......>
Subject: Re: Forever Knight schedule
We'll be showing only season 3 of FK this year, but we will be showing
all 3 seasons, beginning next year. Probably starting in January.
Thanks for the feedback.
On Tue, 16 Apr 1996, Heather Thornburg wrote:
> comments="I was wondering when you would be showing the first season of Forever
> Knight? Will you be showing all three season?
<snip>
> Sincerly,
> Heather Thornburg"
>
>
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 15:13:38 EDT
From: Tanya Smith <bodybldr@v.......>
Subject: Nick's Sins
Better leave Daddy alone; I happen to like high foreheads and he looks
absolutely SEXY with his.
Tanya
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 14:23:16 -0400
From: Linda Simon <lsimon@h.......>
Subject: <No subject given>
Did you notice on the CD literature the thanks to the cyberspace fans for
our enthusiasm? Nice touch.
You're welcome, de nada, de rien.
Linda Simon
NatPacker and chocolatiere
"I'm a treat-the-disease kinda gal myself." Nat
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 15:44:48 EDT
From: Kenneth Dare <102226.1213@c.......>
Subject: Part needed
Hi All :)
Could some one please send me (Part 10) of the Forever Knight Round Robin "In
Cyberspace, No One Can Hear You Bleed". It seems that no matter how hard I try
I always end up missing at least one section of Fan-Fic.
Thanks!
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Brandy
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