There are 32 messages totalling 786 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. <No subject given> (2) 2. Fatal Mistake, Human Factor 3. ie vampires in oklahoma 4. Aussie Fans:John Kapelos sighting 5. Curioser and Curiouser (2) 6. Everything I Needed to Know... 7. Police Captains 8. Fourth-Season Eps 9. All I need to Know I learned from Shakespear (2) 10. Wardrobe (3) 11. Word from PNElrod on book with Uncle 12. Seeing Nick in Flight 13. Episode Order (2) 14. CD Order 15. Fourth Season Eps. 16. How much does Nat know? (2) 17. Nick a Baptist? 18. Baptizing Nick 19. Police Captains and Hamsters 20. Nick biting Marian 21. Looking for Seattle Listers 22. Amanda Cohen 23. Up, Down, Flying Around 24. The music, the music 25. OIY! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 09:15:11 -0400 From: Carrie Krumtum <CKrumtum@g.......> Subject: <No subject given> >Subject:Science Fiction Channel >O.K. You guys who have access to this channel are responsible for taping >and distributing reruns to all of us FK addicts, or we will D.T. > simultaneously >and come after you. >Tanya I absolutely will be willing to tape for you guys. I'm one of the few, the proud, the FK feed rich! I have a local syndie who is pretty faithful with original airings, the USA channel which is not, and the SciFi channel which had better be!! Guess I'll go buy out my local WalMart of blank tapes now... Carrie, Proud Knightie CKrumtum@g....... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 09:21:08 -0400 From: Carrie Krumtum <CKrumtum@g.......> Subject: Re: Fatal Mistake, Human Factor >>Nick just needs the right woman to make him relax. We'd start with >>a full-body message... > >I'll wrestle you for the opportunity, Tanya!! > >Dotti R Okay, I'm taking the bets on this one. Odds are as follows: Dotti 1:2 Tanya 1:3 Nick 1:200 :)= Carrie, Proud Knightie CKrumtum@g....... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 09:05:55 +0200 From: Katrinka <STUKENDALCA@m.......> Subject: Re: ie vampires in oklahoma there be no holy water in oklahoma, this is a baptist state (at least that's what great many baptists think) and they belive holy water is something the cathlics made up. Still, it wouldn't be that bad to be a vampire in oklahoma, since one of the favorite things to do in this state is to get drunk, if you fly, the locals will simply think their seeing someing. Yes the summers would be a bummer, but think of the long dark winters. ALso, there is hardly anyone living here. Somehow though our state is full of very creative people, for some very strange reason. Also plenty of cows in case anyone gets hungry. Fellow okies, please don't murder me! I've just read all the sat. night posts, and went mad for a moment. My local media club is having a minicon on sat. any one want information, e-mail me, we will be showing canadian fk! katrinka ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 23:48:40 +1000 From: Deanna Czarnuszewicz <deczar@p.......> Subject: Aussie Fans:John Kapelos sighting For Aussie fans with cable access: I saw John Kapelos in a movie last week called 'Deep Red' on the Showtime channel (channel 3) it will be repeated on Friday 26th April at 8.45am. Also stars John DeLancie(for ST fans). John Kapelos plays a police detective who teams up with an immortal. Sounds familiar :) Also A member of our Brisbane group of Forever Knight fans, Jill Craig is conducting a survey of Australian fans favourite Forever Knight episodes. As well as being informative the results of this survey will be helpful to our group when preparing our presentations at local conventions. (We have one such presentation at a Babylon 5 convention in three weeks. If you wish to be part of the survey, please E-mail me privately and I will send you the questionaire and a comprehensive episode guide that Jill has prepared by snail mail or E-mail. Many thanks for your time Deanna Czarnuszewicz deczar@p....... for The Brisbane Group of Forever Knight Fans. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 10:41:34 -0400 From: Rebecca Howle <jhhowle@e.......> Subject: Curioser and Curiouser Ok, now I'm not sure if anyone else noticed this or not. Remember when Nick walked into the bar and it was a panning shot of him. They walked past about 4 people sitting and drinking. One of them had a huge hat on his head (I assumed he was the mad hatter) I didn't get a good look at the other people, but I'm sure they were probably more characters hidden in there somewhere. Rebecca Hotel Goddess for the Shrewthering, Dark Knightie-all the fun of liking Nick without all the guilt and angst. Co-owner Blue Meanies ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 11:03:38 -0400 From: Nancy McCaskey <mccaskn@p.......> Subject: Everything I Needed to Know... 1. Never try to show your inner self by getting naked. 2. If you kill someone, make sure they're dead. Otherwise they show up cranky later. 3. Walk softly and carry a big, pointy stick. 4. If you're ever lucky enough to host a radio talk show, use an airname so the weirdos won't show up at your house later. 5. Blood is thicker than (holy) water. 6. Characters with pale skin and yellow eyes are not restricted to "Star Trek: the Next Generation." 7. Vampires who prey on humans can be a REAL pain in the neck. :) ================================================================== Nancy McCaskey mccaskn@p....... ================================================================== Baba Carouche is in the hoooooouuuuse... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 08:21:00 PT From: Tami Lafrank <tamilyn.lafrank@a.......> Subject: Re: Police Captains Have to agree with Dotti. I thought Cohen was *BORING*, One-dimensional,monotonous, useless. I liked Stonetree because he had emotions and great stories. But Reese is my favorite. He's witty, quick on his feet, a *good* cop <G> andcaptain, knows and admits that he's brownnosing when he does, advises without bullying (like Stonetree), and he really cares, it's not just a job to him. Reese or Stonetree are the perfect captains and I would like to see one or the other when we finally push them into a 4th season. :-) Tami LaFrank : TCL58@a....... or TCL20@a....... Forever Faithful Ravenette : Owner: Sacred Raven Health Spa : His hair glistened in the rain like "Come in, relax. We're dying : like nose hair after a sneeze. to prolong your life" : Stupidity *should* be painful! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 15:36:11 GMT From: Karen Parker <horcgal@u.......> Subject: Re: Fourth-Season Eps Oh, I like the idea of expanding on the Carouche society. I always wanted them to go into that more and develop some characters. Also like the idea of a boyfriend for Nat. That would make for some interesting story lines between the new beau and Nick. Nick would have to face up and tell Nat "hey, I kinda like ya.....etc." Instead of hinting and hoping. There's certainly not a reason to bring back the show for a 4th season due to lack of material is there? karen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 12:01:38 EDT From: Tanya Smith <bodybldr@v.......> Subject: All I need to Know I learned from Shakespear 5) Nicholas, oh Nicholas, where art thou Nicholas? Refuse thy master and bite me on the neck 4) All the worlds a feast, and we are but family 3) I look to bite, if looking biting move 2) Out, out, damn spot, out I say (I bet that's been said ALOT) 1)But hark, what light through yonder window breaks? It is the East, and oh-my-god here comes the sun! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 11:32:48 CDT From: Bruce Rawitch <brucer@i.......> Subject: Re: Wardrobe Sandra Gray wrote: I mean, geez, the guy wears a t-shirt, a regular shirt, a vest, a jacket, a *coat*. Modesty is one thing and there may be something to be said about "peeling back the layers" ;), but he *never peeled any of them back*. Something that you have to keep in mind about Nick and his sense of "fashion" is that for the first 7+ centuries of his 'life', he would have worn all of the layers listed above, and maybe a few more.... I'm sure that he must feel practically naked in just jeans and a t-shirt, and by the standards of dress for most of his existance, he would be. Just take a glance thru a good history of costume book for the period of 1200 to say, 1900-we are all terribly under dressed by the standards of the previous centuries. You can take the boy out of the 13th century, but you can't take the 13th century out of the boy.... Bruce ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 12:46:07 -0400 From: "Gaylin J. Walli" <gjwalli@m.......> Subject: Word from PNElrod on book with Uncle Folks, I just got this today form Pat Elrod about the bombshell we got word of concerning her new book. People who went to SYNDI-Con probably heard this, but for the rest of you, this is what she sent me this afternoon. Jasmine, Faithful Ravenette, gjwalli@m....... Keeper of the First Unofficial FK Home Page at www.hu.mtu.edu/~gjwalli/fktoc.html ----- Begin Included Message ----- >From pnelrod Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 11:09:22 -0400 [personal note snipped] If you want to add anything new to your page the bombshell has been dropped at SyndiCon in San Francisco this last weekend. The one about Nigel Bennett and I writing a vampire book together, that is. It's called KEEPER OF THE KING, and we're almost finished with it and hoping for an October release. We share equal writing credit (he gets top billing, and I don't mind) and have done equal writing on it. Actually, he's done a bit more than half the book! He gave readings from it at the con and it was pin-drop hearing time in a packed room. The fans LOVED it! Any questions I'll answer as time allows, but the full skinny is in my fan club newsletter. Memberships are 10.00/year, 12./yr, overseas, US funds. Quarterly newsletter (a big one!) autographed button, "bloodstained" membership badge and more as we think it up. Sample issue $2.50. Checks to: The P.N. Elrod Fan Club, P.O. Box 000000, Xxxx Xxxxx, XX 00000. [more personal stuff snipped] Thanks so much! P.N. Elrod ----- End Included Message ----- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 09:56:18 -0700 From: Frisson <frisson@i.......> Subject: Re: Seeing Nick in Flight I have always thought that the reason Nick doesn't "register" with people when he flies if because he moves to fast. Therefore, all people see is a streak of light or something like that in the sky instead of a humanoid. Maybe that explains some UFO sightings. They were Vampires. ;-) Ok, I know we clearly see him flying in the first season, but we also see him vamp out when others don't , we hear the heartbeats when others don't and FK is predominately Nick's POV. Schanke and the TV reporter (forgot her name,) saw Nick when he was in their direct line of sight and they were focused on his individual movement. He also slowed down and stopped in their presence. Make sense? ~~Diana frisson@i....... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 13:08:40 -0400 From: eugenio lobaina <elobai01@f.......> Subject: Re: Episode Order > All right, I'm feeling like the Sci-Fi Channel people and it's a bit > embarrassing... Sandra informs me that the numerical order of the > second-season episodes bears no resemblance to the order in which they > aired/occurred. "Crazy Love," for example, is second-season's #13, but it > was the finale...? I am delurking after a long time to pose my thoughts on the matter. I am also curious as far as the correct order. A few weeks ago when the list of remaining 3rd season eps was posted, it was stated that Francesca and Ashes to Ashes were going to run in a different order than they were produced. This was because one (can't remember which) was a lead-in to Last Knight. In that case I think it doesn't matter what the production schedule for 2nd season was. The correct order was the order we got, with Crazy Love being last. I am sorry if this was discussed during the second season but I came to the list during Black Buddha. (no flames please.) Anyway since things have been a little slow I think we can discuss this. It is important because we want to be sure that Dominion has the correct order, even though he should know since it's his job. I have not seen a web page that has the airing order, only the prod order. Anyway, please enlighten us. I will shut up now. Discuss. Gene <elobai01@f.......> <http://www.fiu.edu/~elobai01> Lacroix: What's this feeling I sense in you? Nick: Shame! Lacroix: More than that! Fear? Fear in the fearless, weakness in the omnipotent! It is a vestage of your former self, it is meaningless. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 05:13:56 -0600 From: Dirk Giles <DPGILES@n.......> Subject: CD Order Well the FK CD arrived yesterday; one week after ordering it. I guess paying the extra dollar for First Class helped some. And all I had to say to my wife to explain why I had ordered it was: "Hey, it's Forever Knight!". Socrates - Failthful Raven Watcher of the Vampire Ferrets (Dirk Giles - dpgiles@n.......) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 13:39:31 -0400 From: Dotti Rhodes <dottir@w.......> Subject: Re: Curioser and Curiouser At 10:41 AM 4/16/96 -0400, you wrote: >but I'm sure they were probably more characters hidden in there somewhere. > Okay Rebecca, you've got me crazy. I am not ffwding and watching C & C. I'll get back to ya. Dotti R Knightie 4-Ever dottir@w....... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 13:55:21 EDT From: Tanya Smith <bodybldr@v.......> Subject: Fourth Season Eps. I think we should get a mortal boyfriend for Nat too. Then, Nick could go be an immortal 'ho, trying to get back at her. (BTW, I volunteer for any and all scenes for this. I mean, I could wear wigs and nobody would even know.) (-: ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 12:30:41 -0500 From: Margie Hammet <treeleaf@i.......> Subject: Re: How much does Nat know? AKR wrote: >I have a feeling that part of >his problem is that he does *not* bare his soul to Nat, or anyone else. I think that's true. I think "Crazy Love" dealt with that problem, to some extent. >Do you suppose that part of the reason she's been unable to >cure him is that he's holding out on really revealing the depths and >desires of his condition? Hmm, maybe. I keep wondering whether or not the creative minds behind Forever Knight have an idea about what would cure him. Margie (treeleaf@i.......) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 13:07:47 CDT From: L'Phantom <jrarmstr@p.......> Subject: Re: Nick a Baptist? Here's the thing from my POV... My basic religious ideas are something along lines of, "I used to be a Baptist, but I got better." :) *If* Nick repented of his sins, whether or not he was a vampire, regardless of how many lifetimes he has lived, regardless of everything in his past; if Nick repented of his sins and promised his life to some God or other (God, Allah, whatever), then he's redeemed. Period. No questions asked. That's what redemption is. The total absolution of sin, regardless. There is no way to make it to whatever heaven he may believe in by doing enough "good" to outweigh the "bad." Remember the thief who was crucified next to Jesus. He repented of his sins; he never "repayed society for his sins"; and yet Jesus said, "This day you will be with me in paradise." Isn't that good news for our favorite angst machine? All you really have to do is say, "I'm sorry and I won't do it again," and that's it. You're saved and redeemed. Forever. And even if you are a creature which the Bible says is evil (the Bible, incidentally, which was written by *men* who presumed to speak for God; whether or not they actually did will never be known) if you repent and ask for redemption, you'll get it. Until next time, I'll be watching... Cousin Erik (Le Phantom de L'Opera) jrarmstr@b....... // http://bsc.edu/~jrarmstr/ "Just because you're not paranoid doesn't mean they *aren't* out to get you." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 11:11:16 -0700 From: Abby <albrecht@s.......> Subject: Re: Baptizing Nick On Tue, 16 Apr 1996, Lisa McDavid wrote: > Ahm, if I remember correctly, Baptists don't bless items the way Catholics > do, and certainly the Protestant denominations don't use Holy Water. > Actually, Lutherans are protestants and they used water that has been blessed for baptisms... it's been a while since i went through confirmation so i can't remember where the water is from, but, at least, at my chuch, the water would burn the heck out of nick. > So Nick would not react to the water of Baptism if he'd gone so far > as to decide to become a Baptist. abby -- Mercenary of the Knight albrecht@c....... Down the hall lThe first Merc Knightie eponymous2@a....... Turn right! lDDEB3, Duchovniks, NLEB, and more http://www-scf.usc.edu/~albrecht ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 14:04:42 -0400 From: Lisa Knust <lmknus@m.......> Subject: Re: Police Captains and Hamsters Did anyone every notice that really stupid looking hat that Stonetree wore in DK, you know The one that seemed to be too small for his head? Just a random question. Also, to everyone who is trying to get the Sci-Fi channel-Don't give up! It took me about 2 years of periodically reminding my cable company, but eventually they got it. Not that I'm there to watch it anyway. Oh well! Lisa Knust lmknus@m....... "For the Blood is the Life..." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 11:30:35 -0700 From: AKR <r.......@w.......> Subject: Re: Wardrobe On Tue, Bruce wrote: > Something that you have to keep in mind about Nick and his sense of "fashion" > is that for the first 7+ centuries of his 'life', he would have worn all of the > layers listed above, and maybe a few more... That's a good point, and it reminds me of something I thought when I first saw "Blackwing." On the Spirit Path, Nick appeared just as he does now, in modern dress. Because of the way the others appeared there, I found Nick's appearance very significant. I assume that it is the true self, or at least the true self-image, that defines the physical form on that plane. Thus, Nick's self-image has kept pace with the times; the person he is now is the person he believes himself to be. We know that, on some level, he is still Nicholas de Brabont, Crusader, but he has adapted amazingly well to era after era, culture after culture. Some weeks ago, we discussed what qualities LC was looking for when he chose Janette and Nick for his Family. I think that one extremely valuable quality, which both have demonstrated, is that adaptability, that willingness to define a self that is part of time without being consumed by it. *** Amy, Lady of the Knight (AKR) r.......@w....... *** * Be Kind to Hamsters -- Observe the Four-Line Quote Limit * ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 13:14:00 -0500 From: Margie Hammet <treeleaf@i.......> Subject: Re: Episode Order AKR wrote: >Sandra informs me that the numerical order of the second-season episodes bears >no resemblance to the order in which they aired/occurred. I'd really like to >know the proper order. I would also like to know the proper order, assuming there is such a thing. Sometimes things are produced in an order that has nothing to do with the order in which the events depicted are "really" supposed to have happened. On the episode guide I've seen, a lot of the second season eps don't have an air date listed. Does anybody have the correct air-dates for the second season? For that matter, did Tristar air the second-season in the order the eps are "really" supposed to have happened, or did they just air them in some other order for some reason of their own? Is there someone connected with Forever Knight who has the definitive word on the order in which the episodes are supposed to have happened? I'm not talking about the flashbacks here, just the events in the present. Margie (treeleaf@i.......) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 14:17:23 -0500 From: Sandra Gray <TMP_HARKINS@d.......> Subject: Re: Nick biting Marian I wrote: >For *that* kind of disposal of what she had taken from Nick to be >possible should be enough evidence that Nick would have needed to >bite her for her to transfer it back to him (she wouldn't have been >able to bite a *rock*, after all :) ). That should have read "Nick *wouldn't* have needed to bite her". --Sandra Gray, forever Knightie --tmp_harkins@d....... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 15:17:18 -0400 From: Dotti Rhodes <dottir@w.......> Subject: Re: All I need to Know I learned from Shakespear At 12:01 PM 4/16/96 EDT, Tanya wrote: > > >5) Nicholas, oh Nicholas, where art thou Nicholas? Refuse thy master and bite me on the neck > >1)But hark, what light through yonder window breaks? It is the East, and oh-my-god here comes the sun! > ROTFL - now if only all Shakespeare were this funny!! Dotti R Knightie 4-Ever dottir@w....... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 15:29:04 -0400 From: Dotti Rhodes <dottir@w.......> Subject: Re: Wardrobe At 11:32 AM 4/16/96 CDT, you wrote: > > >Sandra Gray wrote: > >I mean, geez, the guy wears a t-shirt, a regular shirt, a vest, a >jacket, a *coat*. Modesty is one thing and there may be something >to be said about "peeling back the layers" ;), but he *never >peeled any of them back*. But do you notice in the Canadia eps there was almost always a scene where he was lounging around the loft, in his robe, that was almost always open, as the day's events were being replayed in the background? You always saw some skin there....those I miss!! Dotti R Knightie 4-Ever dottir@w....... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 15:45:04 +0100 From: "Kennedy, Jean" <jkennedy@m.......> Subject: Looking for Seattle Listers Leslie Remencus and I have the good fortune to be attending a technical communications conference in Seattle between 4 to 10 May, and we would love to meet some local FKers! (We're from Maryland.) If anybody's interested in getting together, please e-mail me off list! Days are mostly booked, evenings are mostly free. ObFK: When does the show air out there? We want to make sure we don't miss a new ep! Cousin Jean <jkennedy@t.......> "Would that she were a less annoying woman." - LaCroix ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 14:17:02 -0600 From: Dorothy Elggren <delggren@e.......> Subject: Amanda Cohen ----- Begin Included Message ----- >From owner-forkni-l@p....... Tue Apr 16 05:22 MDT 1996 Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 04:25:13 -0700 From: Jackie <ejdjd@i.......> Subject: Re: Police Captains & hamsters To: Multiple recipients of list FORKNI-L <FORKNI-L@p.......> At 01:06 AM 4/16/96 -0400, Carrie wrote: Jackie writes >in Curiouser an Curiouser really made me wonder why TPTB hadn't used her >more often than to just bark at Nick and Schanke about being on time and >their reports. Her role could have been beefed up to no end -OTOH - >imagine if Amanda Cohen knew the truth about Nick? > Ever wonder what her reaction would be----? When I think of Cohen, I always think of Hunted. There is this classic Cohen look in Hunted where Nick and Schanke ask her if they can go undercover, and she has this ...blank... look. I suspect that same look would be her initial reaction to finding out about Nick. There's probably more to Cohen that we see, and her... er "blank" exterior look is probably her way of coping with crisis. Never let them see you sweat, or something like that. Dorothy delggren@e....... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 12:52:22 -0700 From: Elizabeth Ann Lewis <elewis@u.......> Subject: Re: Up, Down, Flying Around At 5:22 AM 4/16/96, Lisa McDavid wrote: >For the second season, the producers decided that the blurred take-off >and landing effects were better looking. > >Personally I agree, because I think Ger had a point about the first >season shots where you saw the characters flying in long shot. It did >look like a disoriented fish. :) Also that weird arm-spread. I kept expecting Nick to flap his arms or something... ;) Lizbet~*~*~*~*~*~*~Proud Member of the Mercenary Guild elewis@u.......***Lizbetann@a....... Ravenette of the New Order--Knightie/NatPacker/N&N Packer with Cousinly Sympathies and faint leanings towards Vanquea-ism "Arnyd yw Ewyll hyd yw"--Passion is the will to be Listowner, Middle Ages Life http://members.aol.com/Lizbetann/mypage.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 13:27:31 -0700 From: Valery King <kingv@u.......> Subject: Re: How much does Nat know? On Tue, 16 Apr 1996, Kim Bjarkman wrote: > Well, he didn't tell her about having a master until DK, when he'd > been working there about 2 years (if Only the Lonely is meant to occur > the same year as well as season), so he doesn't reveal things very I think it has only been just over a year in DK; in a later 1st season ep (can't remember which) she mentions knowing him for a year and a half. > quickly. But I get the impression Nat doesn't want to know. She is > focused on the present. She wants him to be, too. In NiQ That isn't my impression. I think she's just giving him time, until he feels comfortable about it; not pushing. The line in DK: "Don't you think it's time we talked about the others?" indicates to me not a reluctance to know, just a reluctance to *push*. > ... when she sees evidence that he knew a prominent > figure from the past ... she seemed to roll her eyes, like, "Here we > go again." I didn't have the feeling at that Oh, I didn't feel that at all; and she certainly wasn't that way 1st season, since she seemed pretty impressed that he knew Joan of Arc in "For I Have Sinned." In that one I felt that it was *Nick* who didn't want to dwell on "Famous People I Have Known", with a kind of "get over it" look. > moment that she'd spent many an evening with head rested on chin > looking mesmerized and asking Nick to talk about his fascinating past. > Just my impression. Isn't it funny how the same show can give us different impressions? I think that's precisely what she'd like to do, and it's Nick who resists nattering on about himself. I've always had the feeling that he tells Nat *a lot* more than we viewers ever get to hear! And when did you every meet a man who *didn't* like talking about himself (VVBG) Cheers! Valery kingv@u....... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 16:21:36 -0400 From: Linda Simon <lsimon@h.......> Subject: The music, the music (Alright, you're a sympathetic group, right?) I've just experienced the rush of receiving the CD in the mail, and friends-----I don't own a CD player. I mean to buy one, but I am so ignorant of anything techie, and I've made so many diappointing purchases. Can someone recommend a portable CD player? Perhaps if you just let me know if you have had a BAD experience with any particular brand.... Thanks ever so, Linda Simon NatPacker and chocolatiere "I'm a treat-the-disease kinda gal myself." Nat ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 13:38:23 -0700 From: Valery King <kingv@u.......> Subject: Re: OIY! On Mon, 15 Apr 1996, Kathy L wrote (re: torturing TCI Cable): > I do!! We've been trying (in vain) to get them to carry SFC here in > Tucson for *years* and they keep putting us off by saying 'we'll add your > name to the list.' Yeah, right. Where's Uncle when you need him? This is why I dropped the suckers and went further into debt for a satellite dish. A SciFi employee at the San Francisco World Con a few years back said TCI *won't* add any new channels they don't own a piece of, and USA won't sell pieces of SciFi. Unless things have changed at TCI (and since they've got the same CEO now as they did then I don't think they have) then there probably isn't a lot of hope. Does ANYONE with TCI have the SciFi Channel? ObFK: here's something for the "everything I learned..." list: Watch what you eat; they may come back to get you (like Alexandra, Serena, Jack the Ripper...) Do not flashback and drive. Speak softly and carry a big stake. Regards, Valery kingv@u....... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 16:37:43 EDT From: Tanya Smith <bodybldr@v.......> Subject: <No subject given> Subject:Nick=Baptist Nick isn't a Baptist. I believe Nick is agnostic. He has a difficult time reconciling the concept of God propogated by the conversative group(ie hellfire and damnation) with the concept of God as a loving diety. Recently, our society has experienced a turn-around in religious values. Many denominations, realizing they were approaching "Phariseeness" by following the letter of the law, havereconsidered their stance and have begun preaching about God is love. Unfortunately for Nick, he lived through the hellfire and damnation era/century, and hence has the bad taste of guilt in his mouth.The thing about guilt is IT IS AS GOOD AS WHAT it can bring about. If it brings about repentance, then good. But after that, it becomes a liability. Even most preachers admit this. Nick's guilt is unwarranted, but being a survivor of a conservative Baptist family, I well understand his need to spiritually punish himself for all the evil he has done. But again, after 800 years, you figure he would have worked through that. I personally think Nick needs to go to a shrink. He is neurotic as hell. Tanya ------------------------------ End of FORKNI-L Digest - 16 Apr 1996 ************************************
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