FORKNI-L
Digest - 16 Jan 1996 to 17 Jan 1996 - Special issue
Wed, 17 Jan 1996
There are 35 messages totalling 1004 lines in this issue.
Topics in this special issue:
1. Pros and cons of fighting on
2. I'm back!!!
3. I did it!!
4. OT, but...
5. Fandata Votes!
6. Fax Spamming!
7. Party Quote List
8. The Virgin and the Vampire
9. Just a Word to Yaw
10. Questions (4)
11. mother of all commutes...
12. Questions.... (3)
13. I did it!
14. The forbidden topic
15. Affiliation appreciation day (2)
16. A Question.
17. No Mail
18. CONTRIBUTIONS: An important note
19. Questions & NATPE
20. Sundry Matters (2)
21. Help needed for fanfic (2)
22. Special Day!!!
23. UPN a genelogy
24. Keep posted re Ger Conference...
25. NATPE IDEA - IMPORTANT!!!
26. RI Party, January 20th, POSTPONED to the 27th
27. Further Vow
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Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 17:12:54 -0500
From: Deborah Bender <DBendr@a.......>
Subject: Pros and cons of fighting on
The person who wrote that the third season of FK "lacked spark" was
making an understatement. IMO, there was a moderate decline in quality
between the first and second seasons, and a precipitous decline between
seasons two and three. The show has been dumbed down and coarsened to the
point where I no longer watch it faithfully, tape it regularly, or recommend
it to my friends. I haven't found it in my heart to write letters of support,
but I *have* contributed to three funds. If the outlook is hopeful after
NATPE, I am planning to flyer a large con I will be attending in February.
I want to carry on because it isn't clear to me how much of the decline
in the show (to a large extent a decline in the writing, which was always
uneven) is the responsibility of the folks at Paragon and how much resulted
from outside circumstances. JP said that they got off to a rocky start second
season because of inadequate lead time and too long a production hiatus. A
lot of what I don't like about season 3 seems to be a result of budget
constraints and USA's meddling.
Given the enthusiasm of the syndicated stations for the show, the
growing audience, the fact that fantasy TV shows are hot right now, and the
amazing activity by the members of this list, we have reason to be hopeful. I
think it is possible that we could help Paragon find an additional source of
production money, one that will spend what is necessary and appreciates the
values of classic (first season) Forever Knight. I don't blame James Parriott
for doubting that we can do this, because it has never been done before.
Nevertheless, it is possible.
We have to accept that even with adequate funding and creative control,
the fourth season is going to be different from seasons one and two because
of turnover in the cast and perhaps in the crew. Fred Mollin seems to be
eager to carry on. If someone made Deborah Duchene a decent offer, she would
probably return. But John Kapelos isn't coming back, and Ger looks like he is
getting ready to leave, or at least not be a regular. If Ger is out, there
will be very little for Catherine Disher to do, and we would have to expect
her to be a recurring character at most rather than a regular. I haven't the
slightest idea what Nigel Bennett's plans are.
Can you imagine a Forever Knight with the original cast appearing only
occasionally, perhaps in flashbacks, and an entirely new set of principals?
Can you imagine Forever Knight without the knight? I can. To me, the show is
not about Nick's angst or his star-crossed romance with Natalie. It is about
the condition of being an immortal predator passing for human. There are a
lot of stories about that that haven't been told yet. If Jim Parriott can
imagine them, I want to watch them.
Deborah Bender dbendr@a.......
PantheaCon 96--A con for Pagans Feb 16-19 at the Red Lion Hotel, San Jose CA
contact Ancient Ways (415)653-3244 between 11 and 7 PM PST daily for info
to reserve a hotel room at the con rate, call (408)453-4000 by Jan 20
Reg fee $60 at the door. Rooms $82-92. This is a spiritual gathering, not a
RPG
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Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 16:19:24 -0600
From: Amy Denton <Z_DENTONAM@t.......>
Subject: I'm back!!!
Hi all,
I'm back!! And it looks like I was just in time too. I'm really getting
tired of networks like USA yanking programs just 'cause they don't have
enough T&A for them.
Oh, well. I will be writing letters, sending e-mail, making donations and
whatever else nessescary!
Amy D.
z_dentonam@t.......
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Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 15:21:39 -0700
From: "Tiger Tiger burning bright....." <tango@u.......>
Subject: I did it!!
Just called my local sydicated station--And believe me, I *hate* talking
to people over the phone!--The program director tried to be helpful, but
she really couldn't tell me anything I didn't already know. I asked if
they were planning on asking for it for a fourth season, and she didn't
say anything specific about that...she did say that if I would give her a
call after the convention she would know the status of FK. (and so will
we--that wasn't what I was asking<sigh>)
I don't know. It sounded pretty discouraging. :(=
She said that she had heard that it was not going to be renewed for a
fourth(Which, again, is nothing we already didn't know), and that even
*they* didn't know what was going on, exactly.
If anyone wants to give my station a shot, try to get more out of them, it's
KASA FOX 2
(505) 246-2222
Like I said, it wasn't all that encouraging. But maybe if they get
swamped with calls...
The program director did affirm that they were going to have a Rep at the
convention. Maybe if the strike team could focus a little on this person...?
I'll keep working on it. :)=
LONG LIVE THE KNIGHT!!! :)=
*******************************************
Erika. *
Knightie,NatPacker * "You know, Nicholas,
Nick&NatPacker * sometimes you really
extrodinare! * are one umbrella short
* of a cocktail."
tango@u....... * Natalie, Curiouser & Curiouser
******************************************
SW Fan, HL Fan, X-Phile & LGW #24
'The Few, the Proud, the Paranoid.'
SAVE FOREVER KNIGHT!(E-Mail me for details)
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Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 17:27:51 -0500
From: "Tammy Pond [Digest]" <nightmist@g.......>
Subject: OT, but...
Is it just me sticking my e-mail in odd places or did everyone on the
list get Spammed with some crud from "sales@v......." for some idiot
"check in for sweepstakes" note? I've included part of the note for
reference, in case anyone needs it.
From: SALES@v.......@INET02# Internet Gateway
Sub: Shopping
Comments: Authenticated sender is <sales@v.......>
From: "staff@dare.com" <sales@v.......>
To: Electronic Shoppers <sales@v.......>
COMPUSERVE: GO SAMPLE
COMPUSERVE: GO FREEOUTLET
PRODIGY: JUMP SAMPLE
INTERNET: http://www.ven.com
The Mad Fax Spammer o/~ Spamming the night away... o/~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Forever Knight is cancelled! Write nightmist@g....... for info
or visit this web site (Site name *IS* case sensitive!!!):
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
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Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 17:38:49 -0500
From: "Tammy Pond [Digest]" <nightmist@g.......>
Subject: Fandata Votes!
To get Forever Knight (and any other categories you want, I
personally voted for Highlander and Babylon 5 as well...) please note
the following, *DIRECT* from Harry at Fandata Publications!
> If the counts reach 100 before February 1st, they'll be
> listed this year.
- HOPKINSH@a.......
Send your e-mail votes in now to get it listed as a separate category
this year!!
The Mad Fax Spammer o/~ Spamming the night away... o/~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Forever Knight is cancelled! Write nightmist@g....... for info
or visit this web site (Site name *IS* case sensitive!!!):
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
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Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 17:39:32 -0500
From: "Tammy Pond [Digest]" <nightmist@g.......>
Subject: Fax Spamming!
I've faxed: Jon Feltheimer (@ the direct fax #)
Sandra Stern @ number posted in 1/10 digest
(Sandra was mentioned as a PR person @TriStar)
The Mad Fax Spammer o/~ Spamming the night away... o/~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Forever Knight is cancelled! Write nightmist@g....... for info
or visit this web site (Site name *IS* case sensitive!!!):
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
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Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 14:45:21 -0800
From: Cherri Munoz <cdmunoz@e.......>
Subject: Party Quote List
Hi all!
Sorry this has taken so long to make it to the list but it took three days
for me to recover from last week. (I missed two days sleep.)
The Saturday party was great. There was a dozen of us. Drinking blood from
wine bottles labeled with Raven, Private Reserve, 1996 with the Name of the
FK fan at the bottom. Mine had, of course, Cousin Cherri written on it.
We had FK episodes on from the time the first person arrived, Hi Debbie, to
the time people left at 2:45am. IE more than 12 hours of FK.
Thanks to all who brought snacks.
Follows is the very short quote list. Next time, someone else should be in
charge of the list. I had too good of a time to write down everything that
was said.
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"Uh...excuse me, where's your stethoscope?" Debbie (Night in Question)
He probably has yucky blood. Catherine
Stranger than Fiction: As of...., I've written 2123 letters....
Sounds like the list. Cherri
Eight pints! He's gotta be chugging! Catherine
While watching Nick Knight:
When Jim saw the coroner, he said, "Oh, Natalie!"
MBIAV: Are you taking notes? Jeff
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That's it. There were plenty of others but we were having a great time.
Of course, I got to say at least once during the night.
What so you expect? I'm a Cousin! ;) ;)
"Cousin Cherri Munoz" <cdmunoz@e.......> FK Optimist's Club, Sime/Gen
I don't WANT a new one. I LIKE that one. <LaCroix-Father's Day>
Save FOREVER KNIGHT!!Check
out:http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
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Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 17:52:59 -0500
From: vicki jean merriman <vmerrima@i.......>
Subject: Re: The Virgin and the Vampire
Reading between the lines, he may have said hello and taken her out to
lunch, but it sounds as though she created an entire fantasy out of it.
It is sad but stars and media people are susceptible to this sort of
thing from their fans. I feel for NB.
|----
Vicki Merriman - vmerrima@i.......
On Tue, 16 Jan 1996, Lisa Clevenger wrote:
> approprate place to air grivances like that about the stars of the show. I
> am sorry that something so ugly happened(?). But we are not the ones to tell
Is the (?) to wonder whether it happened? I certainly would wonder about
that also.
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Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 17:56:26 -0500
From: Tammy Stephanie Davis <tsd@u.......>
Subject: Just a Word to Yaw
I want to say something here.
I became a member of this list about five months ago and it immediately
became my favorite place to read about Forever Knight. But my
appreciation of this group have increased ten-fold since the news of
Forever Knight's cancellation.
I've never been a part of such an effort as this. Its amazing how quickly
everything was mobilized and how organized this movement has been. Think
about it. Its been one month since news of the cancellation and there
have been *thousands* of letters, faxes, and telegrams sent; *thousands*
of dollars raised for the Pediatric Aids Foundations; and hundreds of
contacts made to newspapers, magazines, TV stations, newsgroups,
conventions, and web sites.
Listen. Whether we succeed in our goal or not, we are doing something
positive that we believe in. How often have you watched a show on
television that delighted, amused, or moved you in some way only to have
it canceled cause it wasn't mainstream enough? (a.k.a. low ratings).
Forever Knight is a show that is more than the sum of its parts. No, it
won't stop wars, cure cancer, or get you an A+ in political science. Its
just a good TV show that makes you think about such lightweight stuff as
redemption, unrequited love, death, guilt, and forgiveness.
So DONT GIVE UP! What we are doing is positive and quite cool and
whatever the result - at the very least - we can say that we did our
best on behave of something we believe in.
And you always benefit from that.
---TSD(Forever Knightie)
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Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 18:55:58 -0500
From: Lisa Anne Prince <Moonlight@g.......>
Subject: Re: Questions
Hey, Hey Guys :)
I have to agree with Cynthia, Jamie, Jane, et. al about our
sticking with this campaign. We're way too far along to just quit
and I for one don't think we should unless someone from the show
tells us to stop because it's hurting them. There have been ample
opportunities for several different people involved in the show to
tell us right out to stop -- none of them have done so.
Even if the show does end now, think about all the good we've done.
Not just for PAF, Red Cross and such, but for each other. We've
truly banded together as a group to try to affect a change for
something we care about. People who've never done something like
this before, are out there trying. A lot of people have put their
heart and soul into helping this campaign along and it would be a
severe disservice to everyone who's done *anything* if we did just
stop now.
Do I still believe in Forever Knight? Yes I do. But more
importantly, I believe in all of *you*.
Lisa Prince (Moonlight@g.......) Official Charity Drive Organizer
Please make checks payable to the Pediatric AIDS Foundation
Send to: Lisa Prince, PAF "Forever Knight" Group Charity,
000 Xxxxxxxxxxx Xxxxxx, Xxxxx 000, Xxxxxxx, XX 00000-0000
Rage, my friends, rage against the dying of the Knight
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Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 19:06:39 -0500
From: Inanna Arthen <Vyrdolak@a.......>
Subject: mother of all commutes...
Katrin Dyballa inquires:
>Ger moved to Calafornia, is this right? I know, that Nick has incredible
>powers, but Ger would be the first human, who can split up in order to be at
>two different places: Toronto and California. How Ger should manage this?
>Any ideas?
Well, actors do this all the time, for various reasons (Johnny Depp has
enough frequent flyer miles to earn a free ticket to Alpha Centauri). And
other people do, as well -- it's surprisingly common for people to spend the
week where they work and go "home" to their families on weekends. Some
actors hate LA, or live in NY but get a movie, or live in LA and get a play.
Actors probably do it more than most other professions because acting tends
to be "temp work" by its nature. This doesn't mean it's not rough, or that
it's something you'd want to do indefinitely. But it's certainly *possible*,
even without supernatural abilities.
That doesn't mean Ger will want to do it. And I wouldn't blame him too
much, sigh.
Inanna des Cousines
Vyrdolak@a.......
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Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 16:08:02 -0800
From: Dianne Therese DeSha <desha@b.......>
Subject: Re: Questions....
Cynthia writes:
> In a couple of hours, I am boarding a plane for Los Angeles so that I can
...
> I'd really like to feel as though when I do that turnover tomorrow, I'm
> doing it as part of this group effort, and that the group continues to
> support the project.
I have to agree here, the timing on the suggestion to "just let go" is
absurd. In a couple of hours I will be picking her up at the airport
so we can do this turnover. Courtesty of FedEx, I am sitting here with
over $5000 in checks in my hand-- raised for an excellent cause by a
group of organized, determined, _caring_ people who know exactly what
they want and are working *hard* for it.
In a week I will be on the road to Vegas to spend a day standing and
smiling and answering questions and passing out bags and flyers at
NAPTE as part of the final push of this incredible effort.
We've worked long and hard to go from nothing to the building momentum
of a truly spectacular effort here... and someone's suggesting we stop
and say "Oh well, just forget it" ???
I of course don't want to be doing anything to give the cast and crew
grief-- no one does-- but if they really do want us to just give up
and go away (*which I have yet to hear!*)... they've taken their sweet
time about letting us know.
It would be incredibly wasteful and downright tragic to kill the momentum
we've got now. At the very least, I would ask that everyone keep with it
wholeheartedly until after NAPTE-- another week and a half won't kill
*anybody*.
Dianne
The Mad Digester :-) -*- NATPE Carpool Coordinator
(and proud new FoFoD! Thanks Pam & Sherry! :-)
Dianne la Mercenaire... -*- <moonlight@c.......>
"I hope you'll pardon us if we continue to crusade. :)" -- Jaye
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Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 19:22:15 -0500
From: Lisa Clevenger <Sukhmet@a.......>
Subject: Re: Questions
Guys,
Thanks. I feel a bit better now. I think the negative reaction by my
family was just getting to me. So I am going to post the good things about
the show/list just to cheer me up. You guys are great, and I really feel
like you are family and friends.
Things to be greatful to FK for:
1. The direct fact that FK has helped me reach a major goal in life,
becoming published writer.
2. The great acting and kind hearts of all the cast and crew, that
introduced the Ped. AIDS cause into my heart.
3. The neat people I have met on-line and off.
4.The hand cramps from so much letter writing typing.
(Cousin)Lisa C (feeling better now)
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Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 16:36:43 -0800
From: Ariel <clinton@r.......>
Subject: I did it!
I usually lurk on this list, and the others that I am one, but FK means a
lot to me, and I could not just sit back and watch the campaign unfold.
I have sent out many e-mails to people to let them know what was going
on, and today I finally sat down and called KCBS and let them know how
much I liked the show. I hope it helped!
Ariel
aka- Rebecca Marie Clinton
clinton@r.......
Ariel10575@a.......
Save Forever Knight!
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Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 19:37:40 +0300
From: Antonia Mandry <MA97AD14@a.......>
Subject: Re: Questions
I agree with everything Sharon said about not stopping the effort to save
FK. I think that all the cast members would like to continue on FK if well
funded. But only if. In addition, sorry that my opinion is so different
from every one else's but I *love* this season. All of the episodes have
been worthwhile to wacth, at the very least, and some of them, like
Blackwing and Hearts of Darkness (to name a few) were downright fabulous!
And I love all the flashbacks. Admittefly, I only started watching this
season, but I just got all of teh first season and some of the second
season on tape and although I enjoy those episodes too, I would miss Urs,
Vachon nd Screed too much if they left. I did like Janette, though.
Toni
E.W. in combat (Mortal Combat)
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Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 19:42:33 -0500
From: Deborah Bender <DBendr@a.......>
Subject: The forbidden topic
I deleted that post unread as soon as I saw where it was headed. If
this should ever happen again, God forbid, I suggest we all do that.
If the listowners decide to make FORKNI-L a moderated list to prevent
further occurences of this kind, I would have no objection.
Deborah Bender dbendr@a....... that's dbendr with only one "e"
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Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 19:48:25 -0500
From: June Williams <cousin@w.......>
Subject: Re: Affiliation appreciation day
I second that devotion. Next time you run across someone like that you
might tell them that the central core philosophy of the protaganist is a
search for redemption.
Ad Astra-Cousin June
On Tue, 16 Jan 1996, Wendy Marie Christensen wrote:
> > Tried to convert the 1-800-FLOWERS operator, Robin. She'd heard of the
> > show, but said she couldn't watch it because she's a Christian.
>
> She was just using a excuse.....I am a christain and still love the show.
> You shouldn't have let her get away :)
>
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 11:47:31 +22303754
From: Christine Hawkins <chawkins@n.......>
Subject: A Question.
Folks, when is the deadline for saving the show? I have a friend who is a
Forever Knight fan puts out a 'Reviewzine'. She is going to include some
information on FK in Australia and the 'Save Forever Knight' campaign in
the next issue. Unfortunately, she still needs around 10 reviews to
complete the issue, and she might not be able to make the cut off point.
Christine Hawkins.
**********************************************
Christine Hawkins - c.hawkins@n.......
("The *Other* A-Negative FoD")
**********************************************
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Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 20:04:56 -0500
From: Janis Richmond <jwr@c.......>
Subject: No Mail
Hi!
For some reason I'm not getting any of my digest listings. I am on all
three FK lists. Someone suggested that I write and ask to be manually set
on the lists.
Thanks for any help you can give me.
jwr@c.......
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Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 20:28:06 -0500
From: June Williams <cousin@w.......>
Subject: Re: Questions....
You go with all our hopes and prayers for this glorious quest. I have
come to realize that the campaign is as important as the object of the
campaign. It's fused us together in a grand sense of community. Raised
our energy levels so high that mighty feats of good works are being
accomplished in very short order. Sacrifices have been made that will in
no way be diminished if we are not successful in getting our goal of
saving the show accomplished. One more thing. We all should have known
that saving this show was going require fortitude. As Ms.Lichtengurg
pointed out at ARISIA, that white hot heat that's been generated needs to
be banked(not extingushed), and fueled by the wonderful minds and spirits
that we have found here on this list. We are not all of the viewers by a
long shot. We do seem to be placed in the role of advance team however.
It is a pleasure to see what is happening here, and I hope to remain a
part of it. So go and know that you are not alone, not at all.
Ad Astra-Cousin June-cousin@w.......
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Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 17:28:42 -0800
From: "Lana G. Soward" <lgs@i.......>
Subject: CONTRIBUTIONS: An important note
Just an important reminder about the checks to reimburse the NATPE bag AND
Electronic Media Ad effort.
Make sure that they are made out to Laurie C. Fenster, only.
She has been our financial goddess in this endeavor, so the checks need to
be made out to her.
Thanks to those who've already sent in your generous contributions.
Lana
SOS-FK
lgs@i.......
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Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 19:53:39 -0600
From: Diane Echelbarger <gryphon@e.......>
Subject: Re: Questions & NATPE
Susan Garrett said:
>We have three days until NATPE. Let's keep the effort going through NATPE.
As leader of the FK-NATPE strike force, I believe I speak for all of us (Mind,
I have NOT cleared this with the rest, but I believe they would agree with
me). WE ARE GOING TO NATPE. The bags will be shipped Thursday, and need to be
payed for. (Pledges are not yet adequate to cover shipping, folks!) The
supplies to copy fliers have been bought, and Toni next-day expressed the
originals this afternoon. I have bought a NON-REFUNDABLE plane ticket I
couldn't really afford, so I could be there.
We have invested too much time, money and sweat in this to back out now,
people. If nothing else, the fans of ANY show will have ZERO credibility in
future if we do not follow through on what we have promised to do in that
NATPE ad, in our flyers and web pages and....
One week. Keep fighting for *one* more week. Then we can all catch our
breaths and decide if we want to continue.
>We will hear for certain by February 2nd whether or not we have succeeded or
>failed. By that time, whatever happens, we will have donated a LOT of money
>to Pediatric Aids and helped the very CRITICAL situation of our nation's
>blood supplies.
Yes! If this campaign has no result but to help PAF and the Red Cross, *and*
show cast and crew that the fans care, I, for one, will count it worth the
cost.
Donate blood. Mail the PAF checks.
Keep on fighting!
One more week. Please.
Diane E
NATPE-FK Campaign Coordinator
# D Echelbarger gryphon@e....... #
# WWW HomePage: http://www.execpc.com/~echelbar/ #
# "Ask, and it shall be given to you." Matthew 7:7 #
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Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 21:02:29 -0500
From: Allison Percy <percy91@w.......>
Subject: Re: Sundry Matters
patrick kortner aiex <paiex@i.......> said:
> Does some medically-oriented person out there know what the rules
> on donating blood are for someone who has recently (within 8 months) gotten
> a tattoo? I'd like to donate blood, but I'm afraid my recent act of self-
> mutilation may bar me. :(
> I seem to remember something saying I have to wait a year. If this
> is so, as soon as I can, I'll troop down to my local blood bank and donate.
> Even though I HATE needles. ;) That's what you get for taking allergy shots
> for seven years.
I called the Red Cross today and yes, you do have to wait 12 months after
getting a tattoo before you can donate blood. So I guess Pat will just
have to send a bunch of extra letters to TPTB as his penance! ;) And be
sure to donate as soon as you do become eligible.
Anyway, I also confirmed that I too have been deferred from donating until
June (due to a trip to a malaria-prone area).
I just wanted to reassure any first-time donors that blood donation is
easy, *very* safe, relatively painless, and leaves you full of "warm
fuzzies." It is the one way an ordinary person can save a life, and it
feels damn good to know that you've made a difference. I've donated since
the age of 17. The best part is the free juice and cookies at the end.
Since I can't donate, I offer to hold hands and reassure any first-time
donors who need some support! I can do that "virtually" if you live too
far away!!
The phone number for the American Red Cross in the Penn-Jersey area is
1-800-26-BLOOD. Check your phone book for the number near you.
And in case anyone was wondering, I am with the others who will *stick
with this fight* in the belief that it is still possible to get a
well-funded fourth season. I'm nothing if not stubborn.
Tilting at windmills has always been a specialty of mine.
* Allison Percy, a perky Knightie percy91@w....... *
* __o Pedal for Forever Knight & the Pediatric AIDS Foundation! *
* _`\<,_ Contact me to pledge support or join the ride. For info *
* (*)/ (*) see http://assets.wharton.upenn.edu/~percy91/FKtour.html *
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Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 18:02:06 -0800
From: Dianne Therese De Sha <maeve@m.......>
Subject: Re: Affiliation appreciation day
Cousin Suk replies to Sharon's 1-800-flowers operator :-)
> Of course I am an open minded Liberal type Christian that doesn't
> run around screaming "Burn the witch!",
for which we thank you ;-)))
> Trust me, I had my mom ask
> if vampire's were Satan worshippers.
LOL! I dunno, let's find one and ask him/her! :-)))
*Anyway*...
Mr. McKay at KCBS got an elegant rose-in-vase thingy from me and
Catherine Boone today with a thank you note asking for a fourth
season at NAPTE.
Dianne
The Mad Digester :-) -*- NATPE Carpool Coordinator -*- FoFoD! <g>
Dianne la Mercenaire... -*- <moonlight@c.......>
"I hope you'll pardon us if we continue to crusade. :)" -- Jaye
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Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 20:21:09 -0600
From: Diane Echelbarger <gryphon@e.......>
Subject: Re: Sundry Matters
From: patrick kortner aiex <paiex@i.......>
> Does some medically-oriented person out there know what the rules
>on donating blood are for someone who has recently (within 8 months) gotten
>a tattoo? I'd like to donate blood, but I'm afraid my recent act of self-
>mutilation may bar me. :(
"Have you had a tattoo in the last x months?" is one of the questions they ask
you when you donate. (I donate every 8 weeks, I've practically got the
questions *memorized*!) I'm not *certain* that bars you, but if it does, they
will tell you so. Call 1-800-GIVE-LIFE and *ask*. The worst you'll lose is
the time it took to call.
At best, you'll be able to help some hurt people get better.
Diane E
NATPE-FK Campaign Coordinator
# D Echelbarger gryphon@e....... #
# WWW HomePage: http://www.execpc.com/~echelbar/ #
# "Ask, and it shall be given to you." Matthew 7:7 #
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Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 21:22:10 -0500
From: Jane Snyder <janes@i.......>
Subject: Help needed for fanfic
Once again, I lay my fanfic troubles at the collective and extremely
knowledgeable feet of my fellow list members.
This time I have two problems:
1) Larry Merlin makes a brief but important appearance in my story.
Unfortunately, I'm relatively computer ignorant. Could someone who knows
the jargon please e-mail me off-list. I know what I want him to do and say,
but have no idea of the correct words to use.
For anyone who hasn't seen the first season episode Hunters, Larry Merlin is
a computer genius who creates background files for vampires and their new lives.
2) I need some more costume information. Alikhat? Anyone? Specifically,
what kind of clothing did rich men and women wear in the early to
mid-eighteenth century in America? Say around 1720 or 1730.
Thanks guys
Jane (janes@i.......)
Die Hard ** Immortal Beloved ** Optimists Club ** FFFROGie
Reality is a Crutch for the Unimaginative -- Ben Bova (Death Dream)
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Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 21:55:10 -0500
From: Sandra Gray <TMP_HARKINS@d.......>
Subject: Re: Questions
Count me among those who don't think we should give up the fight.
I love this show as I've loved few others and if there is *any* chance
that we can get a fourth season (or more!), then I'm all for it!
Maybe mine is a selfish attitude, but I want to watch shows that spark
my imagination, that make me think, that I *enjoy*.
The concern about adequate funding for a fourth season is a legitimate
one, but perhaps something we can address. If FK was aired in a
consistent time slot in syndication or advertised more in syndication,
that could help the ratings which might translate into more revenue
from advertising. Or another sponser might be convinced to replace
(or exceed!) the funding USA provided for episodes. The efforts we
have all been making are showing a growing market for the show still
exists and that in itself may have some impact on what TPTB decide to
do with the show beyond this season.
Many, many people have put their creativity, dedication, and *money*
into this effort to save a show that we all at least enjoy (else, why
would we be on this list?). We can't give up now. If we *don't*
get anything beyond this season, then, by golly, we ought to be able
to look back and say "It wasn't for lack of *trying*."
--Sandra Gray, forever Knightie
--tmp_harkins@d.......
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Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 22:03:06 -0500
From: "(sp?) Diane Rayno" <LuDia@a.......>
Subject: Special Day!!!
'Lo All,
<yeah I know, that lasted long, eh?>
Today is **National Feel Sorry For Diane Day**.
Please help celebrate by taking a moment of your time to say "Awwwwwwwwwww".
Sometimes you just have to.
Cousin Lu
The Multi Studded One
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Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 19:09:22 -0800
From: Heather Thornburg <penni@t.......>
Subject: Re: Questions....
On Tue, 16 Jan 1996, June Williams wrote:
> You go with all our hopes and prayers for this glorious quest. I have
> come to realize that the campaign is as important as the object of the
> campaign. It's fused us together in a grand sense of community. Raised
> our energy levels so high that mighty feats of good works are being
> accomplished in very short order. Sacrifices have been made that will in
> no way be diminished if we are not successful in getting our goal of
> saving the show accomplished. So go and know that you are not alone, not
at all.
Yes, we are with you. In mind if not in body.
Heather
penni@w.......
Forever Knightie
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Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 22:12:27 -0500
From: A McLaughlin <Iremi@a.......>
Subject: UPN a genelogy
Susan Garrett threw out the idea of pitching FK to UPN.
Well-maybe, you see UPN is owned by Paramount which is the parent company of
Viacom which owns USA and Sci-Fi channel. Now although these companies are
intertwined, more or less, it doesn't mean one has to do with the other.
Egos abound in the business so, even though Kay "get me those numbers"
Klopovitz or Rod "Hey I use to work for CBS" Perth may not want anything to
do with the show someone over at Viacom, Which is owned by Sumner Redstone
CEO, might be delighted. Lucy Salhaney who use to work for Rupert"white
trash" Murdoch over at FOX now runs UPN.
Confused? Good. welcome to Corporate America.
AMc
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Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 22:24:22 +0300
From: Antonia Mandry <MA97AD14@a.......>
Subject: Re: Help needed for fanfic
>
>2) I need some more costume information. Alikhat? Anyone? Specifically,
>what kind of clothing did rich men and women wear in the early to
>mid-eighteenth century in America? Say around 1720 or 1730.
oh boy can i help you with that.
women= dresses over hoop skirts (side hoops) watteau pleats in the back
(sort of like a train going from the shoulders down), wigs (powdered), face
powder and patches )(half-moon, hearts whatever to hide the pockmarks), the
sleeves would be gathered just after the elbows and hang down.
men= coats with big cuffs (the better to hide daggers in my dear) the coats
had no collars until the 1760s NOTE: these coats are daily wear they are
not equivalent to the coats of today/ waistcoats (i.e. vests with long
sleeves but no cuffs), nice flowy shirts, cravats very flowy with perhaps a
jewel pinned to the center, breeches buckled over socks, jackboots if
they're riding a horse (boots that come up to just above the knee with the
back of the knee part cut out-square toes), a greatcoat {overcoat} with a
couple of capes depending on how rich they are, a sword (mandatory for all
men of rank) would probably be a colichemarde if they were using their
sword often. A colichemarde is a sword that has a triangular blade and is
thick at the hilt and then tapers down abruptly halfway down the blade.
they wouyld wear gloves and short powdered wigs, probably have a quizzing
glass on a chain and a tricorne.
does that help?
toni mandry
e.w.
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Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 23:04:50 -0500
From: Marcia Tucker <ScFiMarci@a.......>
Subject: Keep posted re Ger Conference...
Howdy, faithful ones!
Just to let you know that the time, date, and location on AOL/OMNI Online of
the Geraint Wyn Davies conference is BEING FINALIZED. It will be VERY SOON.
I have the info but can't release it yet, but I wanted to be sure you knew
that the conference WILL BE! It's set on the AOL side but we're waiting for
Ger's press agent to give a final OK.
Want to know what the cast and crew thinks of a fourth season? I'm certain
Ger can tell us!
I'll also be posting information about how to get to the conference and how
an AOL conference works. It is NOT like a chat. And we won't have to worry
(as we did Monday night) about the room getting ful!!!!!
Marcia Tucker, up to date with Ger on AOL
ScFiMarci / TVV Marci / OMNINexus@a.......
Your Knight Watch AOL FK Chat Hostess
Ditto what Jamie says.
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Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 23:06:09 -0500
From: "Tammy Pond [Digest]" <nightmist@g.......>
Subject: NATPE IDEA - IMPORTANT!!!
Odd idea, but perhaps it will have some impact, along with the
thousands of bags. (any chance I could get one as a souvenier? huh?
Please?)
T-shirts!!
FRONT BACK
~~~~~ ~~~~
FK Ask for
Patrol FOREVER KNIGHT
for YOUR station!
Watcha think, guys? If nothing else, it oughta make 'em stop and ask
you what it's about, and perhaps spur a few more people to ask for
the show...<grin>
The Mad Fax Spammer o/~ Spamming the night away... o/~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Forever Knight is cancelled! Write nightmist@g....... for info
or visit this web site (Site name *IS* case sensitive!!!):
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 00:05:13 -0500
From: "Meredith E. Pickering" <Plan2@a.......>
Subject: RI Party, January 20th, POSTPONED to the 27th
Hi all!
I would have loved to maintain the date as the 20th, but I have a job
interview in Rye, NY on Friday and, due to technical difficulties, now must
make & fold *2,000* flyers for NATPE on Friday night/Saturday. So, I offer
you a choice: you may still show up on Saturday the 20th, but you'll be
pressed into folding flyers and I can't guarantee how awake vs. stressed I'll
be. If you can make it on the 27th, I think we'll get more people, because
this weekend is both close to ARISIA and the start of the semester for many.
So, the 27th it is. If you need more info or want directions, e-mail me. My
apartment can be reached by car, and /or the train & bus stations are nearby.
On a happier note, I called my affiliate station today and the programming
director, Marylou, was surprised to find out about the cancellation (c'mon
other RI FKers), but asked me to fax her info to pass on to the manager. She
was very supportive and promised to make the manager ASK FOR FK at NATPE. My
mom also faxed the station.
Meredith
Natpacker, Nick&Natpacker
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 00:30:38 -0500
From: patrick kortner aiex <paiex@i.......>
Subject: Further Vow
Gang:
At the suggestion of Angela <AHAGGARD@t.......>, I am adding a
clause to my vow. As you all know, I have vowed to become a Perkulator if
we get a fourth season.
Angela seems to think that if I vow to write Perkulator fiction as
well, a fourth season is virtually guranteed. Go figure.
Well, I'm sayin' it. If we get season four, I will write Perkulator
fiction, in which Tracy saves the day, _without_ Nick or Vachon's help. :)
Pat -- The Lone Nanette
. . . and B-Negative FoD
. . . and Possible Perkulatory
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End of FORKNI-L Digest - 16 Jan 1996 to 17 Jan 1996 - Special issue
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