FORKNI-L
Digest - 17 Jan 1996 - Special issue
Wed, 17 Jan 1996
There are 29 messages totalling 1013 lines in this issue.
Topics in this special issue:
1. SOS: Sent Press Releases.. (2)
2. Laurie Salopek's e-mail
3. UPN a genelogy
4. I'm so depressed
5. questions
6. <No subject given>
7. A Month Ago Today
8. Fwd: Bjo Trimble/NATPE/woo-hoo!!!!!
9. Questions & NATPE
10. Vampire sleep habits
11. Friends in the Woodwork (2)
12. My 2 cents on quitting
13. FOREVER KNIGHT APPRECIATION WEEK - BLOOD DRIVES
14. CFTO phone call
15. Questions (2)
16. Highlight on CompuServe
17. SONY Postcards :)
18. Husband brought across!
19. SOS Help!
20. Arisia Report
21. Strings on USA (no spoiler)
22. Got Ger's tape :)
23. I feel like an idiot but......
24. SF/fantasy news column
25. Fan Appreciation of the Staff, Crew and Cast of FK
26. FK cancelled on CJOH-TV!
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 00:40:00 EST
From: Deb Hisle <sysdeb@i.......>
Subject: SOS: Sent Press Releases..
Our local paper ran the NY Daily News piece.
(This got all run-on-y, please excuse the outline format)
I sent a letter to the Arts and Entertainment editor at our paper,
explaining (1) what the article left out, about the series being in
trouble,
(2) told her the local situation, wrt our syndi station dropping it when
USA picked it up, and probably not picking it back up due to increased
demands from FOX and added UPN scheduling, and
(3) included four press releases: the General, Internet and Charity and the
Appreciation Week release.
Now to go weigh one bulgy envelope...
ta,
- Auntie Deb Debra Hisle
sysdeb@i....... (formerly @p.......) Nicholasville, KY USA
Chalk it up to Voodoo. -nl Button Lover in the Optimists' Club
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Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 22:07:54 -0800
From: Dark Dream Mists <morison@a.......>
Subject: Laurie Salopek's e-mail
Laurie, what is your e-mail address?
-Janine
morison@a.......
knightie and cousin
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Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 22:15:20 -0800
From: Wendy Marie Christensen <wendy@i.......>
Subject: Re: UPN a genelogy
> Susan Garrett threw out the idea of pitching FK to UPN.
> Well-maybe, you see UPN is owned by Paramount which is the parent company of
> Viacom which owns USA and Sci-Fi channel. Now although these companies are
> intertwined, more or less, it doesn't mean one has to do with the other.
Can't we try anyways???
Wendy Marie
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 01:31:52 -0500
From: Harper <RCMANN@d.......>
Subject: I'm so depressed
I missed the airing of "Strings" Sunday night. WNYW was running over
and hour late, and I thought it wasn't on, so I went to bed. No
problem, I thought... I'll wait and see it on USA Tuesday night. So
I'm sitting by the television 15 minutes in advance, remote in hand,
waiting to tape the first new episode in AGES. The Announcer says
something about Nick attending an exorcism, and I got nervous. Then
the first scene of "Sons of Belial" flashed on the screen, and I got
very, very depressed.
Does anyone know if USA will *ever* be showing "Strings"? They're
certainly going to get a call from me tomorrow.
Now I'm going to comfort myself (a little) with this morning's tape
of "Dark Shadows".
Harper *** rcmann@d....... *** "Mostly Harmless" -- Douglas Adams
"Go to the coffee-house..." -- Lord Byron
Save "Forever Knight"! For details see the web page at:
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
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Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 23:00:35 -0800
From: Wendy Marie Christensen <wendy@i.......>
Subject: questions
Ok I have a couple of questios...if this isn't the place for them I am
sorry... Tonights FK on USA was it a rerun? I have just started watching
and didn't really know when it was on so I missed a couple...anyways and
is it 3rd season?
Now I have some Vampire questions...I was under the understanding that
vampires sleped during the day and could not be up...am I wrong?
Dose Nat know about Lacrois being a Vamp?
Well that is all I remember now...
Thanks!!!
Wendy Marie
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Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 23:02:36 -0800
From: Dianne Therese De Sha <maeve@m.......>
Subject: <No subject given>
>From 0007169902@m....... Tue Jan 16 19:50 PST 1996
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 96 21:43 EST
From: FRITZ GOLMAN <0007169902@m.......>
To: Dianne Therese De Sha <maeve@d.......>
Subject: Inside TV newsletter
Sender: maeve
Just an FYI...
I subscribe to a listserver dedicated to TV. It's called 'Shop Talk' because
it's really about and oriented to the people in the industry. I wrote the
editor a letter about the SOS campaign and he posted it in his letter. This
goes out all over North America to all computer savvy media people...so the
word is getting out now on the inside channel! Hopefully it will lend a lot of
credence to the fight. I likened the effort to those back in the 60's to save
the original Star Trek.
Let's keep our fingers 'crossed' that all the efforts will come to fruition
with the continuation of FK.
Regards,
Fritz Golman
Director of Information Systems
Shadow Broadcast Services
Chicago IL
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 02:43:12 -0500
From: Apache <lf@c.......>
Subject: A Month Ago Today
December 17 was when Fred Mollin (if memory serves) first warned
us that Forever Knight was in serious danger.
Look how far we've come, how much good we've done as an organized
charitable effort, and how well we've done at our other efforts -- we're
about to deploy a well-informed, bright, demographically appealing Strike
Force at one of the television industry's leading economic events, an
event at which many attending station personnel will have heard personally
of FK's situation from us, and all the others will learn of it from our
advertising and handout campaign. USA and TriStar as corporate entities
are well aware of our efforts.
This is one seriously astonishing group of people.
Laura /Apache
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 04:02:10 -0500
From: Lisa Wolters <MVRJasper@a.......>
Subject: Fwd: Bjo Trimble/NATPE/woo-hoo!!!!!
Howdy, fellow FORKNI-L'ers!! :)
I'm doing a happy happy joy joy dance right now. I took the liberty of
e-mailing Bjo Trimble, First Lady of Star Trek, about our SOS efforts, and
she e'ed me back that she plans to mention our efforts in a newsletter she
does. (think I posted that yesterday) ANYWAY...I e'ed her again to tell her
about our NATPE plans, and this is the response I got back. NATPE folks, you
may pat yourselves on the back now. :) Actually, the entire list may now
pat itself on the back. :) :) :) :) I also sent her all three press
relseases, Cynthia.
**********
>Holy cow, Lisa! NATPE is far more energetic than I'd have ever
>considered! I'm truly impressed!
>Please have everyone pick up info; flyers, brochures, press packets, on
>ANYTHING to do with our genre [all sci-fi, fantasy, horror, futuristic, about
>space, animation, etc] to send to me. I'll pay postage for any material I get.
>Candid photos of celebrities in the genre would be nice, too. Frankly, if I
>could afford to be there, I'd glean the place like a pack of crows in a
>cornfield!
>Nothing will go to waste, because if I can't use it, the items will be given
>over to charity auctions. Often, after I've used the item for the newsletter,
>it then goes into charity auction. Ask Pat Elrod; she knows me. I'm known as
>"The Bag Lady around some studios! -- Bjo
**********
Would the "NATPE Six" <g> be willing to oblige, if you can get in or
otherwise gain (legal) access, pick the place clean for Bjo? Also--is Diane
E. the official NATPE coordinator? If so, wouldja drop me a note so I can
put you in touch w/ Bjo? :) I don't know if she's interested in the
background on this thing, but what the hey, it can't hurt to tell her more.
:) :) :)
Lisa with a W.
MVRJasper@a.......
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Forwarded message:
From: Bjo_FrmMgr@m....... (Bjo Trimble)
To: MVRJasper@a.......
Date: 96-01-17 01:14:30 EST
Holy cow, Lisa! Invading NATPE is far more energetic than I'd have ever
considered! I'm truly impressed! The networks must realize what a force fans
can be! May I use this letter [edited a bit] in the newsletter as well?
Several mentions of the campaign will do better, and one or two in the letter
column will get notice from those who might not see it elsewhere.
Please have everyone pick up info; flyers, brochures, press packets, on
ANYTHING to do with our genre [all sci-fi, fantasy, horror, futuristic, about
space, animation, etc] to send to me. I'll pay postage for any material I get.
Candid photos of celebrities in the genre would be nice, too. Frankly, if I
could afford to be there, I'd glean the place like a pack of crows in a
cornfield!
Nothing will go to waste, because if I can't use it, the items will be given
over to charity auctions. Often, after I've used the item for the newsletter,
it then goes into charity auction. Ask Pat Elrod; she knows me. I'm known as
"The Bag Lady around some studios! -- Bjo
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From: MVRJasper@a.......
Sent: Monday, January 15, 1996 5:46 PM
To: Bjo Trimble
Subject: Re: RE: Forever Knight fandom needs help!
Thanks for the ideas--and for putting FK in your newsletter. Every little
bit definitely helps. And I posted your ideas to out FK list to share with
the rest of the conspirators. :)
And please do send me a copy of your newsletter. My snail address is: Lisa
Wolters, 0000 Xxxxxxxxxxxx Xx., Xxxxxx Xxxxx XX 00000.
I think we now have a pretty solid campaign underway. We've been writing to
USA, the local stations, and the advertisers--but I don't think any of us had
thought of putting flyers in with our regular bills. I *like* this idea, and
will definitely start doing it ASAP. A lot of us (me included) are already
posting flyers at book stores, gaming store, etc., and finding fans of the
show, or people who at least know what it is, just about everywhere.
Our "biggest guns" will be representatives at the upcoming NATPE convention in
Las Vegas. We'll be handing out thousands of free plastic bags that say
"Renew Forever Knight" on the day that USA's prez is due to receive an award
from her peers, *and* we have placed an ad in Electronic Media, which is going
to all NATPE participants. The bags and the ad cost us close to $5,000, but I
think they're worth it. Hopefully, TriStar and USA will sit up and notice.
We've started a campaign to call all our local stations to tell them to ask
TriStar/USA for a fourth season of Forever Knight at NATPE.
We've organized all of this in less than a month. We're very lucky to have a
number of persistent, very dedicated people among us who aren't afraid of
trying anything. And we're extra lucky to have people like you to help!!
Thank you again, and I'll let you know how this all works out.
Lisa -- MVRJasper@a.......
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 02:07:15 -0800
From: victoria litchman <debbie8@e.......>
Subject: Re: Questions & NATPE
as the leader of the FK-NATPE strike force, I believe I speak for all of us
(Mind,
>I have NOT cleared this with the rest, but I believe they would agree with
>me). WE ARE GOING TO NATPE..........
As the driver for the Southern California contingent,, I also want to let
everyone know WE WILL BE AT NATPE!
Debbie Litchman
Debbie8@e.......
(was Debbie8@i.......)
"The Few, The Proud, The NATPE Strikeforce"
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 07:49:29 EST
From: Lisa McDavid <D020214@u.......>
Subject: Vampire sleep habits
I'm sorry I didn't get the name of the newcomer -- hi, welcome aboard! --
who asked whether vampires slept in the daytime.
The answer is that the rules vary between fictional universes. FK vampires
aren't unconscious or dead during the day. This follows Stoker's Dracula,
btw. The sleeping/dead by day thing isn't in all the original folklore
either. It's largely the invention of the movies.
Cousin Lisa -- "That will be trouble."
Lisa McDavid
mcdavid-lisa@s.......
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 05:29:54 -0800
From: Eliot <ejdjd@i.......>
Subject: Friends in the Woodwork
It is absolutely incredible but...
I just got off the phone with a good friend of mine who lives in
Dallas (I'm in New York); we chatted about this and that, family, getting
together, etc. and she told me she was going to be away this coming weekend,
in Vegas. It didn't click, as this woman travels an awful lot. However,
when she said "selling her show", my mind *finally* went into gear (sorry
for the lapse). Yes...she is a producer of children's shows in Texas,and
she is going to NATPF (sic) AND (the very best part....[pant], [pant]...)
her husband is a **devoted** Forever Knight fan!!! She had heard nothing
at all about the cancellation (being on AOL and only inputting for business
you see) and so, she is now downloading the SOS FQ, a flyer, having it
copied in her offices *and* will be speaking with personal friends at
Tristar Productions when she arrives on Friday morning!!
Keep all those collective fingers crossed!
Jackie
Support your local Attorney...send your kid to Medical School.
ejdjd@i.......
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 08:31:36 -0500
From: Teresa Davidson <davidson@r.......>
Subject: My 2 cents on quitting
Forgive me if this post doesn't sound perfectly polite, but I must say it --
I am absolutely blown away that anyone would suggest to this List that we
quit the Save Forever Night campaign! IMO, such suggestions *at this point*
totally disrespect the many dedicated fans who have *already* poured into it
their hearts and souls, as well as given considerable time, energy, and money.
Was it that post of what Ger was to have said (to someone else) that whipped
the ones who want to quit -- or rather, who want others to quit? Fear of
losing? Fear of success? Or is it that they didn't care to begin with? I
dunno, and I don't really want to point fingers. However, I do know that Kay
Koplovitz will laugh her expensive business suit off if we can't follow this
through. Yes, quitting will simply justify her decision that FK has too few
real fans to bother with and it will confirm that she was *smart* to kill
our show -- I really couldn't blame her though. Could you?
If you're worried about Ger and the others, remember one thing. They are
successful because of *this List*. If it weren't for this List, the majority
of current fans would never have heard of or even noticed any of them. The
stars' fan clubs were started by FK fans! I.e., this List has not hurt and
cannot hurt the success or opportunities of Ger or anyone. The bottom line
is that the publicity generated by the Save FK Campaign has increased the
chances that Ger, Nigel, Catherine and the others will have a better shot at
future success.
Having had years of Virginia history pounded into my brain in both
elementary and high school, I am imprinted too strongly to quit this
revolution now. Quoting a line from a speech I had to memorize in the fourth
grade, I'll close with Patrick Henry's "If this be treason, then make the
most of it!" (Or something like that. ;-))
Teresa Davidson, Ravenette Classic
davidson@r.......
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 08:51:11 -0500
From: Hilary Doda <Hilary_Doda@g.......>
Subject: Re: FOREVER KNIGHT APPRECIATION WEEK - BLOOD DRIVES
Help! Does anyone know the legal age to give blood in canada? G-D...I hate
being 16...
Katya
-=feel the call of the Knight...=-
* Raven * X-Phile * Trekker * FFFROGie *
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 08:51:07 -0500
From: Hilary Doda <Hilary_Doda@g.......>
Subject: CFTO phone call
Well, I did it. I actually phoned a TV station (CFTO)...be proud. I hate
being so phone-shy...
Unfortunately, I got a secratery who had no clue..."Forever Knight? That's
that cop show, isn't it? Do we show that? Really?"
<sigh>...
Katya
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 06:07:01 -0800
From: LC Fenster <lucienlc@i.......>
Subject: Re: Questions
I posted this privately to Laurie S, but have been asked for my opinion
on this topic, so am reposting with extraneous details removed.
Quoting from a post I received:
"C*******" wrote:
>(bag/ad check in mail. I just send note to Dianne E. about it.)
Thanks.
>The posts from Laurie Solopek (sp?) and others concerning the "wishes"
>of the cast and crew of FK are starting to bother me.
You and everyone else! :-)
>planning on sending blood red roses to my local syndie person today
>and have not done it yet because of a nagging doubt that I'm throwing
>my money away, trying to accomplish the UNWANTED (by the cast and
>crew) goal of attaining a 4th season.
>
>So, I'm asking you, our fearless leader, have our goals changed here?
>Chatelyne@a.......
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(The rest is from me)
For myself, I find these questions, being asked at this point in time,
very upsetting because a couple of weeks ago several of us specifically
approached JP offlist concerning his feelings about a fourth season
before proceeding with the campaign. We specifically asked him -- no,
implored him -- to tell us THEN if he and/or the cast and crew did NOT
want us to proceed with the SOS FK campaign, becausewe were about to
commit real time and money to this effort. His answer, while not
encouraging as to our chances of success, did not indicate that he
opposed a new series: he told us he thought it was a very long shot,
but that "in this business, you never know". He did NOT suggest that
anyone involved with FK opposed a fourth season.
Now, it could be that things have deteriorated since then, but even so,
I found Laurie S's post, in the middle of everything, quite disturbing.
A lot of people have just invested a great deal of time and money in
this effort, leading into NATPE. It may well be that after the NATPE
effort, everything will be disbanded, but to post this now, when people
have committed time, money and heart and soul to this effort is
extremely cruel.
At a minumum, it would have been more politic to wait until the end of
next week, after the NATPE effort when we were in a stage of
regrouping, before posting this.
Just my opinion, but considering I just invested in the neighborhood of
$8,000 in this effort, which may or may not be reimbursed; that Cynthia
flew down to LA at her own expense for the PAF handover; that six
people are investing their own time and money in flying to Las Vegas
for NATPE; that dozens are involved in paying for bags and flyers to be
distributed there as well as the EM advertisement; and that hundreds
of others have invested time and money in letters and presents to their
local syndies, sponsors, etc, all tied to NATPE, I found this post
remarkably ill-timed.
The time to speak up definitively was two weeks ago. Or after NATPE.
Not now.
Laurie CF
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 09:20:36 -0500
From: Ken Hart <Ken888888@a.......>
Subject: Highlight on CompuServe
One of the sysops on CompuServe's SF Media 2 forum just sent me a note saying
that she'd highlight the Save FK movement in the "forum flash" this Saturday.
I thanked her profusely, but I'm strongly encouraging her to spotlight it
earlier, since most of the TriStar/local-TV people may already be traveling
to the convention by then and thus be unavailable to interested fans.
(P.S.: I pushed the FK blurb to the top of my home page, so I'm now quite
curious to see if there's any spillover from Melrose Place fans to Forever
Knight. Now there's a terrifying crossover concept! <g>)
Ken Hart, Raven / Ken888888@a....... / http://www.xensei.com/users/khart/
LaCroix: "'A father provides love, discipline, guidance, protection, and
support' -- That's not bad."
Nick: "He left out freedom." LaCroix: "So would I."
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 06:52:14 -0800
From: Sherri <sherric@e.......>
Subject: SONY Postcards :)
I don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but I was trying to
get a postcard fixed & got an email from Sony - the kindly lady couldn't
retrieve my post card but she told me that GWD got "almost half" of the
post card hits... Considering they are saying over 23,000 got sent, I'd say
we seriously kicked elbow. :)
She indicated the results would be known today - but she didn't know when
the page would change to tell us the results.
Good work everyone :)
Sherri sherric@e....... Founding Member, SFKS
Help save Forever Knight! The "Save Forever Knight" Web Page --
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
For the web impaired try shortfrm at ftp://www.empnet.com/pub/sherri
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 09:58:40 -0500
From: Carmen Perry <ai638@d.......>
Subject: Husband brought across!
Stranger things on heaven and earth...
Last night I was watching the rerunof Sons of Belial(no Strings on USA)
and my husband happend to be there too. He is not a SciFi or Vampire
fan. After the show he said he thought it was very well don and really
enjoyed it. He said he could also understand why TBTB don't want it.
It's well acted, very intellectual and doesn't rely on sex, rippling
muscles, and the guy always gets the girl. He was comparing it to
Highlander. Although I like HL too I was amazed at his accurate
perceptions. It's true, Nick never seems to get the girl (poor Nat).
He said after seeing the promos on USA for their latest lineup (especiallly
the Tabloid show) he felt that they are not looking for the intelectual
audience who enjoys this type of show.
Maybe we should be trying for A&E or Bravo!
Carmen
ai638@d.......
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 10:03:11 -0500
From: "Susan M. Garrett" <susang@v.......>
Subject: SOS Help!
Did you see a new episode of FK this past weekend? Have you written a
letter to your local syndication station telling them that you saw the
epsiode and thanking them for showing it?
If not--WRITE! If you have a few lottery tickets, send then one. There are
a few new episodes coming up--we have to keep on the pressure until after
NATPE. So write your syndicators ONCE A WEEK until after NATPE.
Also, we've been hearing from quite a few people who have called syndicators
and found they've been the only ones in their area. For heaven's
sake--CALL! NOW! We HAVE to get the syndicators to understand that they
have to ASK for FK at NATPE. Which means you have to call to let them know
that YOU'RE watching! If we don't get a fourth season and you don't call,
you can only blame yourself. If we DO get a fourth season and you don't
call . . . well, Nick's not the only one who can indulge in massive guilt
complexes.
I'm reposting the phone script. If you work during the day, call at lunch.
Call from a payphone (for most of you it's a local call). But CALL!
Make one call to every syndicator in your area and tell them--
* That you watch Forever Knight on their station (giving them the day and
the time is impressive)
* That you'd like to see them continue to show Forever Knight--namely, a
new season next year
* That you've discovered from the distributor, TriStar (you don't have to
tell them HOW) that they're not planning to produce another season
because they don't think syndicators are interested
* That TriStar would be willing to produce another season if they received
enough calls to their SYNDICATION SALES department from syndicators asking
for the series
AND
* That if interested stations approached TriStar at NATPE and asked for
Forever Knight, it would prove to them that there's enough interest in
the series to produce it. Tell them to call TriStar and ASK for a fourth
season!
If you're a phone weenie like me, you can talk to programming, or ask them
who is in charge of purchasing programs. If you're a brave phonian, talk to
the general manager of the station. If you freeze up, print the above note
and use it as a checklist while you're on the phone (that's what I usually do).
DON'T harrass them.
DON'T make more than one call per person.
DON'T threaten not to watch their station any more
DON'T mention USA or the net (unless they specifically ask you where you
received your information)
DO let them log your name and telephone number. (That proves you're not a
crank call and you're willing to let them verify the information you've
given, as well as your interest).
We don't want to tie up their phones like last time. We DO want to give
them an idea of just how many potential fourth season viewers are out here.
Faxes are a nuisance and many are tossed. Some stations actually LOG calls.
Calls prove that the interest is genuine.
We basically have two days to get the word out to them before most of them
head for Vegas--Thursday & Friday. Calls on Monday or Tuesday might be too
late, but couldn't hurt.
If your local syndie station doesn't carry the show, call them anyway, ask
them why, and tell them that you'd be interested in seeing it on their
station next year--but they HAVE to call to make that possible.
Fred (and many of our other contracts) have emphasized how important it is
that syndie stations actually CALL TriStar and ask for the show. Even if
TriStar doesn't plan on selling the show and we fail to get the stations to
phone ahead, if we send stations to NATPE with FK on their brains so that
they ask at the TriStar booth, TriStar WILL get the message. If they have
enough stations ask for FK on Monday morning, by noon some poor TriStar slob
will be at a Vegas Kinkos by noon, photocopying a quick and dirty presskit
for a fourth season of Forever Knight that can be handed out in response to
inquiries.
For the next three days, this is more important than the letter campaigns
(but don't stop writing, either). Get your non-list friends to call.
Spread the word to local clubs to call. Just call.
If you don't have the phone number, call directory assistance. Or check the
web site. Or check the fksta.txt and synupdt.txt files on the FTP site. Or
ask on the list.
Regards
When we get a fourth season, the hair GOES.
susang@v....... -- http://www.vitinc.com/~susang
Get all your info for Saving Forever Knight from:
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 10:28:15 -0400
From: Antonia Mandry <MA97AD14@a.......>
Subject: Re: SOS: Sent Press Releases..
ok. i keep forgetting to email all.
I have:
sent a check to the NATPE group (only $50 i'm afraid and even that will
beggar me)
sent a letter to Mr. Feltheimer
convinced three other people to write letters
and am posting the SAVE FK flyer on my bulletin board at school
Toni M.
hope it helps
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 10:25:52 EST
From: MS ANNE P PINZOW <TBZY17B@p.......>
Subject: Arisia Report
Expanded recipient data:
To: J LICHTENBERG \ PRODIGY: (XEYQ30A)
Dear List,
I'm sorry it has taken so long to post this. I didn't get back from
Arisia until late Sunday night, then Monday I had to pack for another
trip. Tuesday I spent traveling and now, finally I have a moment to
gather my notes.
First off, everyone who participated in the Arisia effort should get
high notes of praise. There was a great deal of energy there and it
was noticed by many of TPTB as evidenced by an article in the Boston
Herald which appeared on Sunday. Also, a special note of praise should
be given to Rae Montor. Unfortunately she was incapacitated by an
unfortunate incident and was unable to continue staffing the FK table.
However her place was taken by Ron the Enforcer and quite a few others
who offered to help out.
Of the two panels on "Forever Knight" several things came out.
First: It was suggested that a television segment for talk shows be
put together and offered to the different ones taped in different
cities. For the Fox talk shows it
was suggested that the following people be asked: Jacqueline
Lichtenberg, Joan Winston, Bjo Trimble, and anyone local who is
involved with Alien Nation be contacted and asked to join. This would
be offered as a group of people who have been involved with the
revivals and saving of "cancelled" television shows. It was also
suggested that Fred Mollin be contacted to see if he would be willing
to participate. Local FK fans would be notified of the date of taping
so that they could be in the audience. It was also warned that
if/when this comes to pass, all participants should remember to dress
in a professional manner, no t-shirts.
It was emphasized that all letters to the advertisers should talk about
how because "my stockbroker saw the advertisements on Forever Knight he
suggested that I buy stock in your company." Never ever say that we
are part of an organized effort or that we are "fans." The last goes
to all letters written to any executive of the show, networks, stations
and sponsors. "Organized efforts" are discounted.
Susan DeGuardeola, who sells commercial time for cable television to
advertisers, joined one of the panels. She pointed out how the present
news releases tended to hand journalists a sword against the show. She
demonstrated how news releases must be written with short snappy
sentences, how they should not have any negatives in them and should be
totally positive in their approach. "Beware of double negatives."
Also a news release should only be about one thing at a time. The
present news release is pushing too many ideas all at once. It was
also suggested that this effort constantly be tied to the "Star Trek"
efforts to illustrate how successful the "cancelled" show really is and
how it can make millions of dollars for Columbia Tri-Star. Besides,
the efforts are not "unprecedented."
Susan also told us how her boss recently commented to her on the
fabulous ratings and demographics "Forever Knight" has and how easy it
is to sell time to advertisers for those time slots. The conclusion
that was drawn was that for whatever reason this show is being
cancelled, it's not for ratings.
It was also brought to the attention of the people attending the panel
that in Hollywood, there is one commandment "cover thine backside."
Every decision is made by a committee of people and therefore it is
impossible to point the finger at one person and say "he or she" is the
one who cancelled a show.
Respectfully submitted,
A. Phyllis Pinzow
PS I am no-mail so any comments will have to be sent to me privatly or
I'll never see it.
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 10:55:22 EST
From: MS GILLIAN A ELDRIDGE <VRKP26B@p.......>
Subject: Strings on USA (no spoiler)
I just checked USA's program listings on Prodigy (which are updated
ever day and show one week's listings), and it says that Strings will
be the episode shown next Tuesday. Hopefully those of you who mentioned
missing it this weekend will be able to see it now.
Incidentally, I finally managed to upload the latest faq to both the
Showbiz and SFRT2 libraries on GEnie, though it takes a day or two for
them to clear.
Jill
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 11:03:48 -0500
From: Hilary Doda <Hilary_Doda@g.......>
Subject: Re: Friends in the Woodwork
A friend of mine has just informed me that his mother's boyfriend does the
publicity for FK...I'm hoping he's right, and I've sent a bunch of
flyers/press releases home with him...
Cross our fingers, he might be able to help...
Katya
-=feel the call of the Knight...=-
* Raven * X-Phile * Trekker * FFFROGie *
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 08:35:00 PT
From: Tami Lafrank <tamilyn.lafrank@a.......>
Subject: Got Ger's tape :)
Happy Happy Joy Joy. Got Ger's audio tape in yesterdays mail. It's
wonderful. What a great voice. I've listened to 2/3 of the first story
and then my husband had to tear me away from the headphones and make me
go to bed. :)
If you haven't ordered one yet, you should. It is really terrific.
Tami LaFrank : TCL58@a....... or TCL20@a.......
Forever Faithful Ravenette : King Arthur ran the first (K)Night club.
The Raven Health Spa : Never play Leapfrog with a Unicorn.
"Dying to prolong your life" : Celibacy is not Hereditary.
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 08:48:38 -0800
From: Shanda Harry <shanda@e.......>
Subject: I feel like an idiot but......
Hi folks,
I have a check sitting on my desk ready to send to whoever is collecting
money for the stuff for NATPE. I managed to delelte my mail that had the
address in it. I am posting this to the list as I will not have WEB access
(or I would check there:-) for the next few days and I would like to get
the check sent as soon as possible.
So please just tell me who to send it to and it will be on its way.
Thanks again,
Shanda
shanda@e.......
PS Feel free to e-mail me in private if you do not want to clutter the list
- Thanks
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 11:07:45 CST
From: Jay Badenhoop <BADNHOOP@s.......>
Subject: SF/fantasy news column
This post is to let you know about a resource for news about the show
relevant to this list, so it is on-topic.
Do you want to keep up on the latest news about your favorite science
fiction/fantasy and cult comedy shows and movies without buying a ton of
magazines and/or subscribing to every list and bulletin board on the
Usenet and Internet? If so, SF-NEWS is for you!
The SF-NEWS list distributes "Mr. Data's Data", a news column by Jay
Badenhoop. "Mr. Data's Data" covers all aspects of media SF, mostly
TV, but also some on films, especially those related to or based on TV
series. It covers Star Trek, Babylon 5, Doctor Who, Red Dwarf,
Forever Knight, The X-Files, Lois and Clark, Highlander, Alien Nation,
Sliders, Nowhere Man, Strange Luck, American Gothic, seaQuest, Earth 2,
and VR.5, animated series such as Duckman, Gargoyles, and ReBoot, and
other British and American science fiction/fantasy and cult comedy
series. There is even some news on cable and satellite TV developments
and regulations that could affect your TV watching, and convention
anecdotes and interesting news items in "All Stories Strange and Silly".
SF-NEWS also distributes a comprehensive TV schedule with episode titles
compiled by Lee Whiteside, and maintains a Master List of Email Lists.
To subscribe to the list, send a message to: majordomo@s.......
with no subject and in the body, the command: subscribe sf-news [<address>]
The address is optional; if you do not include it, the address of
origin is used. For more information, send a message to the majordomo
with the command: info sf-news . A new issue has just been published,
so now is the time to subscribe!
Jay Badenhoop, The Electron Slayer
Keeper of Mr. Data's Data (sf-news@s.......)
Milwaukee Time Lords/Star Fleet Academy
Whoosier Network/Knightly News
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 12:20:49 -0500
From: "Laurie M. Salopek" <laurie@l.......>
Subject: Fan Appreciation of the Staff, Crew and Cast of FK
After talking with several people it was suggested that I post an
explaination of where my controversial post came from. Basically, my
attitude is more a reflextion of the crew up in Toronto.. ROUGHLY.
After talking with a few people, Valerie Meachum and I have, in a
sense, decided to make our goal to boost the moral on the set and you
all can help.
During the week of NAPTE we are suggesting that cards, letters, etc of
appreciation be sent to the "Staff, Crew and Cast" of Forever Knight.
I really don't think they realize just how big and successful the
drive to keep the show alive is becoming. Valerie and I want to make
them more aware.
So, send your cards, letters, etc... to:
Paragon Entertainment
119 Spadina Ave, Suite 900
Toronto, Ontario M5Z 2L1 Canada
Tell them all how much you've appreciate all they have done.
Laurie
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 12:26:13 -0500
From: Bedard Marcel <bedardma@e.......>
Subject: Re: FK cancelled on CJOH-TV!
If this is right, I'm not at all surprise, when I found out that
CJOH (CTV) would be the only way I would get FK this year, I knew
I was in trouble especially when I found out that it would be
starting in november instead of september so I found someone who
was nice enough to tape it for me (THANK YOU!!). To me CTV is
the same as CBS, they air a show for a few episodes and than
cancels it and before they cancel the show they usually move it
around alot so even those few episodes we do get to see are hard
to find. That's why I don't start watching new shows on CTV
or CBS because I know that within 3-4 episodes it will be canceled.
When I hear of a new show that will be shown on CTV or CBS, I feel
sorry for that show because I know they won't be given enough
time to create an audience or a fair chance.
France
>
> Those bastards! I can't understand why they do that!
>
> Could someone please tell me if they're going to show it at another time,
> maybe on another day? Thanks!
> (I usually watch it on Ottawa's CJOH-TV, channel 8.)
>
> Hugo Trepanier
> mcampeau@m.......
>
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He was brought across in 1228. Preyed on humans for their blood.
Now he wants to be mortal again, to repay society for his sins, to
emerge from his world of Darkness, from his endless, FOREVER KNIGHT
bedardma@e.......
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 11:40:28 -0600
From: Teresa J Warren <teriw@t.......>
Subject: Re: Questions
Unfortunately, imho, this season on USA Network seems to have left FK as
a HIGHLANDER/SILK STALKINGS hybrid, what with the introduction of the
"cute" 20-something characters, the departure/killoff of the three
supporting characters and a lot of lame scripts (i.e. the two
*back-to-back* organ kidnapping/transplant stories). And making the
Raven club into just another strip joint, ala' SS and almost every other
USA Network show, wasn't the best of moves.
Gary L. Warren
On Tue, 16 Jan 1996, Antonia Mandry wrote:
> I agree with everything Sharon said about not stopping the effort to save
> FK. I think that all the cast members would like to continue on FK if well
> funded. But only if. In addition, sorry that my opinion is so different
> from every one else's but I *love* this season. All of the episodes have
> been worthwhile to wacth, at the very least, and some of them, like
> Blackwing and Hearts of Darkness (to name a few) were downright fabulous!
> And I love all the flashbacks. Admittefly, I only started watching this
> season, but I just got all of teh first season and some of the second
> season on tape and although I enjoy those episodes too, I would miss Urs,
> Vachon nd Screed too much if they left. I did like Janette, though.
>
> Toni
> E.W. in combat (Mortal Combat)
>
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