FORKNI-L Digest - 3 Apr 2004 to 4 Apr 2004 (#2004-92)
Sun, 4 Apr 2004
There are 6 messages totalling 232 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. non-vamp reasons to love FK (2)
2. Admin: Forkni-l Rules -- McLisa's back
3. Admin: Happy Passover
4. FK dvds
5. FTP site
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2004 10:48:21 -0700
From: "Amy R." <akr@l.......>
Subject: non-vamp reasons to love FK
At my local public library Friday evening, I happened to spot the latest
book by Tracy Chevalier, author of _Girl with the Pearl Earring_. When I
saw her name, though, did I immediately think "best-selling novelist"? No,
of course not. I thought "Francesca" (you know, Tracy saying the name that
belongs to Nick in that episode's flashback). Egad. The special neurons
of a fannish mind . . .
Later that evening, I received an email from Amazon.com, informing me that
since I had purchased the first seasons of FK and _Angel_, I was 93% more
likely than other people to also purchase a certain season of _Buffy the
Vampire Slayer_, and didn't I want to do that? This made me laugh and
laugh. Well, no, of course I don't want to purchase that; they couldn't
get me to watch it when it was free on broadcast television, much less pay
for DVDs. I mean no criticism of BVS, of course; it's a fine show, and
well beloved by many thoughtful people. But the things I, personally,
adore in FK and enjoy in _Angel_ are simply not to be found in BVS -- and
thus, so much for Amazon's new algorithm.
For me, a more logical extrapolation of my preference for FK and _Angel_
might lead Amazon to recommend _Highlander_ and _Rurouni Kenshin_. Like
FK, all these stories feature, most obviously, flashbacks and historicity,
with protagonists who have made great changes in their lives, having come
to one or more epiphanies and growing from them. These characters grapple
with questions our society has become embarrassed to ask most of the time,
like, am I good or evil? Am I getting to be a better person, or a worse
one? I love that. I love these stories that regularly face these
questions in the very persons of their heroes, instead of brushing them
aside with a wink or a blush, if they rise at all, laughing them down or
pretending they're beyond consideration. Like FK, these stories also all
primarily star adults, rather than adolescents or children, which appeals
to me as an adult viewer; I'm rarely happier with a story than when it --
directly or by metaphor -- teaches me something about how to face my own
life, which happens more often when the characters are at a widely similar
stage. Additionally, all these stories make heavy use of the mystery
format -- not only the obvious parallel between FK's homicide detectives
and _Angel_'s private detectives, but HL and RK's favored
worthy-opponent-du-jour/historical-implication construction. As with FK,
the pattern engages my own reasoning and analysis in the puzzle, and so is
innately satisfying for me, as patterns go.
Thinking about what FK really has in common with other stories I attach
myself to, I noticed again that the vampire element holds little
independent appeal for me, personally, and I remembered how FK fandom has
always been extra dynamic for its mix of appeals -- some of us come first
for the historical fiction, some for the police procedural, some for the
vampire horror, some for the moral metaphors . . . and I know it goes on
Most often, we discuss the vampire parts of FK's story, as they are so
large and important in the plot, and so generally appealing to the
audience. Without discounting that, I just wanted to ask the list: *what
is it you enjoy in FK's story quite independent of the vampire aspect?*
Bright Knight: http://users.LMI.net/akr/fk/
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2004 14:12:21 -0500
From: mclisa <mclisa@m.......>
Subject: Admin: Forkni-l Rules -- McLisa's back
That glow you can probably see through your screens is McLisa, blushing.
I thought my modem was broken so for two weeks I did without access at home.
Then yesterday I brought the phone into the computer room, so I could see if
the problem was in the wall jack. It turned out that the phone line wasn't
plugged into the computer. :) No wonder the problem started just as after I
gave the computer room a thorough going over. I forgot that I'd unplugged
the phone line, let alone not remembering to plug it back in. This is
particularly scary because I did get my boss's job -- and it include being
sysadmin of the library computer network. -- McLisa, back on line from home.
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Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2004 14:15:29 -0500
From: mclisa <mclisa@m.......>
Subject: Admin: Happy Passover
Passover starts tomorrow night, so Happy Passover to our Jewish listmembers.
May you have a blessed and safe holiday.
McLisa (Lisa McDavid)
"That will be trouble".
Listowner, Forkni-l and Fkfic-l
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2004 12:33:56 -0700
From: Amanda Berendt <debrabant_foundation@y.......>
Subject: Re: non-vamp reasons to love FK
--- "Amy R." <akr@l.......> wrote:
> *what is it you enjoy in FK's story quite independent of the vampire
I like the aspect of good vs evil. So often in tales it comes across
as a hero vs a monster... but in FK it shows us that good and evil
resides in all of us, and we all are fighting the battle over which
controls our actions. I also like the idea of redemption... not
necessarily the religious idea of redemption, but that each of us
have the ability to forgive and be forgiven.
Ok enough philosphy for now... back to fiddling with the new 'puter.
"Give me your soul and your heart will take flight
Forevermore in the night, Forever MINE in the night"
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2004 15:52:26 -0400
From: Katherine DeVries <banshee1@t.......>
Subject: FK dvds
This may be old news but my local Walmart had the first season @$56.00
or so. It was on the shelf with other collections. I thought I'd pass it
along. With four young'uns, I still can't afford it but I might get it
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2004 17:01:38 -0400
From: Stephanie Kellerman <stephke@i.......>
Subject: FTP site
Well, real life had gotten to me the fast 4 months so I hadn't updated
the FTP site. I finally gotten around to updating it. Please, if
anyone knows of a story that is missing that belongs there please let me
know and if you have a copy please forward it to me. I may have missed
some. Do remember, though, that not all people archive their stories on
the FTP site so if you have not told me specifically nor have you put
the permission in the story itself, it won't be there.
http://www.fkvoyage.com/fkfanfic/ ----FTP SITE----
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