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FORKNI-L Digest - 17 Aug 2002 to 18 Aug 2002 (#2002-245)

Sun, 18 Aug 2002

There are 7 messages totalling 181 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Who's to Blame in LYtD?
  2. FK Alum & Nick-era music on CD!
  3. The Fangs That Bite
  4. Blood in the Stomach/Blood wine
  5. Repetitive Forgetfulness (2)
  6. John Kapelos in Victoria, BC


Date:    Sat, 17 Aug 2002 19:42:51 -0000
From:    Barbara Vainio <bevainio@w.......>
Subject: Re: Who's to Blame in LYtD?

Debbie Clark wrote:

> Although  I agree that Nick wanted to bite Sylvain and that he used the
> excuse that she was impure to justify himself endulging his baser desires.
>...Ballet dancers etc  back then  had a reputation for being
> promiscuous.    Having seen what he thought he saw and knowing  that
> reputation  it is not surprising   Nick would  jump to the conclusion he

I also think that NIck has another reason to believe the worst of everyone
with very little provocation.  After all, he, himself, does things he could
never have imagined even when he doesn't want to.  He's had first hand
knowledge of how evil a person can be.  He's fought against it, sought help
from others and still can't prevent himself from hunting and killing.

And then there's LaCroix who seems to revel in his unrestrained ability to
indulge in the cruelest, most unforgivable behavior.

I'd assume he found it very easy to judge everyone else by those standards
and believe with almost no persuasion that everyone was as tainted with what
could be considered 'original sin", for those who believe in that concept,
as he was.



Date:    Sat, 17 Aug 2002 16:57:36 -0700
From:    "David J. Duncan" <dante0220@y.......>
Subject: FK Alum & Nick-era music on CD!

Hi Everyone:

Back from the writing world for a sec to talk
with all of you about things....

First, it was great to see Kristin Nehman (sp?)
on Andromeda as Molly the pilot.  Too bad she and
Beka didn't talk.... :)  Also, I wish now that
Urs had received a bigger role in FK. :(  Oh

Secondly, for those of us who were wondering
about/like Nick-era music (thirteenth century),
there's a great CD out from Anonymous 4 called
"La Bele Marie".  It has 17 songs to the Virgin
Mary from this period.  I listened to it last
night and really enjoyed it.  Now, we know what
Nick and Fleur were listening to when they went
to Mass.

Thanks for listening, Everyone.  Back to you! :)




Date:    Sat, 17 Aug 2002 20:28:58 -0400
From:    allison <smilewithviolets@n.......>
Subject: The Fangs That Bite

Nice info to know about the whole fang thing.  i did mean to imply that
there are still puncture wounds, just not those neat, little round holes.
Nomatter though, i have now learned much.  i just wanted to say that it's
nice FK folks place the bite marks vertically or at a slight angle.  Nothing
gets me more than seeing victims with horizantal bite marks -- now i think
*that* would take some jaw dislocation.  hehe.

cousin extrodinare dwelling in a UF universe


Date:    Sat, 17 Aug 2002 16:59:55 -0400
From:    Lisa Knust <LthePoet@a.......>
Subject: Re: Blood in the Stomach/Blood wine

Hi all!
    I know I'm a bit late with responding to this topic, but I was between
locations and just got a chance to check e-mail.   Anyway...
   I have had many thoughts about vampire physiology back in college in some of
my bio classes and again during the more boring parts of my med school
physiology class (which was a lot of it).  I always seemed to have to answer
some of my questions with the concession that vampires are not humans and
without actual subjects to study, any ideas based on human physiology are bound
to run into a wall (feeling like I'm being possessed by Nat right about now).
Not that that kept me from rationalizing...   :)
   My general thought was always that vampire metabolism must be different on a
fundamental level. There is no reason they couldn't have stomachs to digest the
blood (as human stomachs digest food) and small intestines to absorb nutrients
from the digested blood (as it is the intestines that do the absorbing of
digested food in humans, not the stomach).  Because they consume a solely liquid
diet, I would imagine that their stomachs would have to be less mechanically
aggressive than ours (which have to handle anything chunky that we don't chew
up enough). Also, the enzymes or "digestive juices" in both their stomachs and
small intestines would be specific to breaking down blood into useful products.
It is after this breakdown and the absorption of the breakdown products that
their metabolism would have to be different to make use of the "nutrients" in
the blood to sustain "life" so to speak. Hypothetically speaking, Nat would
have to be providing Nick with similar nutrients (which always seem to be
referred to just as "proteins") in her various concoctions, or else he would
starve...or at least develop the vampire version of various nutrient
deficiencies.  In humans, on the other hand, other than some minor chemical
alterations, blood from the top of the digestive tract pretty much comes out
the other end the same way, it doesn't really get "broken down" or absorbed.
    Also a practical thought - vampires would have to digest blood at least
somewhat differently than humans, because in humans, blood is an excellent
laxative. I would suppose that would give Nick more of a use for those
little-seen bathrooms of his.  :)
   OK...so now you know what happens when you give a med student a week
off...the mind just wanders...   :)

Lisa Knust
"For the Blood is the Life..."  (we just don't know how)  :)


Date:    Sat, 17 Aug 2002 22:07:44 -0400
From:    allison <smilewithviolets@n.......>
Subject: Repetitive Forgetfulness

Okay... i was just pondering what Uncle would be doing for his birthday,
only i can't find any of the posts that discussed his age.  The closest one
i found was 1968... Aug 26th?  Can somebody please clarify?  Is there a
general consensus on his mortal age and vampire age??



Date:    Sat, 17 Aug 2002 21:19:16 -0500
From:    Nancy Kaminski <nancykam@a.......>
Subject: Re: Repetitive Forgetfulness

> allison wrote:

> Okay... i was just pondering what Uncle would be doing for
> his birthday, only i can't find any of the posts that discussed his age.
> The closest one i found was 1968... Aug 26th?  Can somebody please clarify?
> Is there a general consensus on his mortal age and vampire age??

No one knows what Lacroix's birthday is, but his Conversion Day (the day he
became a vampire) is August 24, the date that Vesuvius exploded in 79 AD.
Assuming Lacroix was about 45 years old at the time (based on his appearance),
that makes him 1,968 years old in 2002.

Which brings up the Conversion Day Challenge---let me remind the writers among
us that the challenge issued by Erika Wilson in 1998 has resurfaced every year
since. I hope to see some stories about how Lacroix will celebrate his
Conversion Day. I know I'm writing mine even as we speak.

Nancy Kaminski


Date:    Sat, 17 Aug 2002 21:16:04 -0700
From:    Klytaimnestra <klytaimnestra@s.......>
Subject: Re: John Kapelos in Victoria, BC

> Here's a link to information on the production. I know it doesn't have
> Scha...er.. John's name in there, but I did read about it in the local paper
> (Times-Colonist) so I know it's true.  Sadly, I work when they seem to be
> filming, so I haven't seen him myself. =(
> http://www.filmvictoria.com/locfilm.htm

Hey, *I'm* in Victoria, BC!  I'll keep my eyes peeled too - thanks, Amy!

Klytaimnestra         klytaimnestra@s.......
Fanfiction at http://www.klytaimnestra.com


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