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FORKNI-L Digest - 23 Jul 2002 to 24 Jul 2002 (#2002-218)

Wed, 24 Jul 2002

There are 18 messages totalling 485 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Car enthusiasts?  Tracy's Car
  2. FK tour of TO (2)
  3. YKYBOWFKW... (11)
  4. feeling stupid (3)
  5. 401k

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Date:    Tue, 23 Jul 2002 15:46:52 -0700
From:    Amy R. <akr@l.......>
Subject: Car enthusiasts?  Tracy's Car

What _model year_ is Tracy's light-blue Ford Taurus?  (Seen especially in BB1
and TG.)

If you know, please copy me the answer off-list; I'm no-mail on forkni-l at the
moment.

Thank you very much!


Amy R., Knightie
akr@l.......
FK: http://users.LMI.net/~akr/fk/

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Date:    Tue, 23 Jul 2002 21:08:50 -0400
From:    Amanda Berendt <debrabant@h.......>
Subject: FK tour of TO

Hey-
A while back there was some talk about doing a group tour for people who are
planning on seeing MFL this weekend (since a bunch of people were going to
be seeing it this weekend)  Anyhoo, my friend and I are going to be in TO
friday night and saturday all day.  We are going to stratford saturday
night.  I was wondering if we could get a tour on saturday or if a group is
forming we could join.  We are staying at the Royal York on Front Street.
Please email me with any info.  We are leaving NJ early Friday morning.
-Amanda

"Peace over anger. Honor over hate. Strength over fear."
http://operacellar.tripod.com/phantomslair.html

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Date:    Tue, 23 Jul 2002 15:07:02 -0700
From:    Viv <viv11374@y.......>
Subject: YKYBOWFKW...

You Know You've Become Obssessed With Forever Knight When...

The NASDAQ closes at 1228 and you burst out laughing.
You should have seen me try to explain *that* to my parents.

=====
Viv

Don't annoy the crazy person

Life's a witch and then you fly

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Date:    Tue, 23 Jul 2002 21:29:00 -0400
From:    Marg <mytoronto@r.......>
Subject: Re: FK tour of TO

I'm going to be in Stratford this weekend myself from Friday to Monday,
so I can't do a tour for you.

I also have to warn you that you have picked the absolutely worst
possible weekend to be in Toronto (unless you are Catholic). The Pope
has arrived for World Youth Day along with 300,000 young people and a
gazillion media types. Starting tomorrow, there will be road closures
all over the city to deal with the  umpteen Stations of the Cross and
other parades, culminating the the Papal Mass on Sunday. So be prepared
for even worse than the usual chaotic traffic in downtown Toronto.

Come to think of it, I would *love* to hear Nightcrawler's monologue on
the subject of the Papal invasion <g>

Amanda wrote:
> A while back there was some talk about doing a group tour for people who are
> planning on seeing MFL this weekend (since a bunch of people were going to
> be seeing it this weekend)  Anyhoo, my friend and I are going to be in TO

--
Marg  <mytoronto@r.......>
Fleeing Toronto, the City of the Knight for the quieter neighbourhoods
of Stratford.

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Date:    Wed, 24 Jul 2002 02:00:40 -0700
From:    Megan Hull <mistrydder@y.......>
Subject: feeling stupid

OK, remind me one more time, how old did we decide
Lucius was at the time of Mt Vesuvius erupting?
                    -Megan

=====
"Eternal nights too short,
How quickly melt away,
With all the love we shared once,
Forever in a Day."

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Date:    Wed, 24 Jul 2002 17:12:59 +0800
From:    Elliza Rahim <relliza@h.......>
Subject: Re: YKYBOWFKW...

Viv wrote:
>You Know You've Become Obssessed With Forever Knight When...
>The NASDAQ closes at 1228 and you burst out laughing.
>You should have seen me try to explain *that* to my parents.

Just wait till the NYSE does that and you're still giggling, then you'd
really have some 'splainin to do. The way the market is, there are people
whom I'm sure can't wait to feed certain CEOs to Lacroix.

Come to think of it, would Uncle or Nick have invested in the stock market?
I wonder what Uncle would do to a CEO who messed up...

Ell

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Date:    Wed, 24 Jul 2002 05:10:46 -0700
From:    Emily <emilymhanson@y.......>
Subject: Re: YKYBOWFKW...

I'm sure at least Nick would have.  More money for the Brabant foundation. He's
had jobs, so he's probably had a 401k at least once, especially since it would have
seemed a bit odd to the mortals otherwise.  I could see LC doing the real estate
thing myself.

Emily

--- Elliza Rahim <relliza@h.......> wrote:

> Come to think of it, would Uncle or Nick have invested in the stock market?
> I wonder what Uncle would do to a CEO who messed up...


=====
Emily M. Hanson
Homepage - http://www.starbase-eprime.us
My Web Graphics - http://www.galaxyofimages.us

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Date:    Wed, 24 Jul 2002 21:58:02 +0930
From:    jennii35 <jennii35@i.......>
Subject: Re: YKYBOWFKW...

  He's had jobs, so he's probably had a 401k at least once,
especially since it would haveseemed a bit odd to the mortals
otherwise.


     401k????

  Dot
Dark Knightie and UFer
jennii35@i.......

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Date:    Wed, 24 Jul 2002 08:10:55 -0500
From:    "Carla M." <copper@m.......>
Subject: Re: YKYBOWFKW...

The US alternative to a pension plan/fund.

Employe and/or employer contribute to an investment fund that is *not*
run by the company, but usually by a respected investment firm.
 Benefits include potential bigger payoffs if funds do better, but also
potential for loss.  A certain amount of money put into the 401K is
exempt from taxes until it's withdrawn.

Biggest benefit is if company goes bankrupt, your money that's been put
away for retirement is still there, and the company can't touch it.  Too
many companies have gone bankrupt, and it's found that they raided
pension funds they ran and now there's no money for the employees.  Also
when a company has been sold, particularly to a foreign owner, that have
been know to just take the pension fund and say "It's ours now.  Too
bad."   Period.  End of story. Yes, it happened to a family member's
company.

jennii35 wrote:

>  He's had jobs, so he's probably had a 401k at least once,
>especially since it would haveseemed a bit odd to the mortals
>otherwise.
>
>
>     401k????
>
>  Dot
>Dark Knightie and UFer
>jennii35@i.......
>

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Date:    Wed, 24 Jul 2002 08:35:45 -0400
From:    Anne Gudnason <anne.gudnason@s.......>
Subject: Re: YKYBOWFKW...

When you glance at a sailboat parked by the road and without checking
anything else or seeing if it is for sale, you only notice the name,
"Crusader".

Anne.

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Date:    Wed, 24 Jul 2002 06:49:31 -0700
From:    Laudon1965 <Laudon1965@c.......>
Subject: Re: YKYBOWFKW...

 From: "Elliza Rahim" <relliza@h.......>

> Come to think of it, would Uncle or Nick have invested in the stock market?

Something tells me that, unlike the US Treasury,
LaCroix has never gone off the gold standard. <g>

Laurie of the Isles

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Date:    Wed, 24 Jul 2002 13:56:21 +0000
From:    Nancy Kaminski <nancykam@a.......>
Subject: Re: YKYBOWFKW...

Dot wrote:

> 401K????

As Carla explained, it's a type of employee/employer
savings plan. Wonderful things they are, too!

However, I don't think Nick's ever had one, because he
hasn't worked in the States for an employer that might
possibly provide one since the 1950s---before they were
invented. I think they were invented in the late 70s or
early 80s---I enrolled in my first one in 1985 or so.

I think both Nick and Lacroix would play the stock
market to a certain extent, but be more inclined to
invest in *very* long-term investments. <g> I agree,
Lacroix would have land---I can imagine him buying cheap
land and then having it turn into prime real estate (mid-
town Manhattan, for example) eventually. Heck, he
probably owns half of New York City! <g>

Nancy Kaminski
--
nancykam@a.......
www.nancykam.com

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Date:    Wed, 24 Jul 2002 06:59:03 -0700
From:    Laudon1965 <Laudon1965@c.......>
Subject: Re: YKYBOWFKW...

 From: "Emily" <emilymhanson@y.......>

>  I could see LC doing the real estate thing myself.

Well we know he owned a plantation in Viet Nam.
I would assume being of the Roman Patrician class
that he owned at least an estate while he was alive.
Land ownership in England and Europe was fairly
sewn up until the last century, but like so many at that
time, when the New World was discovered, he
probably saw it as a golden opportunity to amass
property.

Laurie of the Isles

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Date:    Wed, 24 Jul 2002 07:06:13 -0700
From:    Emily <emilymhanson@y.......>
Subject: Re: YKYBOWFKW...

What about Canada?  Isn't there an equivalent of a retirement plan that would be
offered to police officers?
--- Nancy Kaminski <nancykam@a.......> wrote:
> However, I don't think Nick's ever had one, because he
> hasn't worked in the States for an employer that might
> possibly provide one since the 1950s---before they were
> invented.

=====
Emily M. Hanson
Homepage - http://www.starbase-eprime.us
My Web Graphics - http://www.galaxyofimages.us

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Date:    Thu, 25 Jul 2002 00:17:30 +0930
From:    jennii35 <jennii35@i.......>
Subject: Re: 401k

   Thanks for that explanation,
   sounds a little like our super-
   annuation  here, paid by the
   employer into a fund

    Dot
Dark Knightie and UFer
jennii35@i.......

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Date:    Wed, 24 Jul 2002 09:57:00 -0500
From:    DPHEIL <dpheil@a.......>
Subject: Re: feeling stupid

Mt Vesuvius erupted around 79AD
So that would make him 1923 + what ever his
age was when he was broght over
I'm guessing he was 35-40 yrs old when he was brought over
so that would make him 1958-ish

I wonder if vampires still bother to celibrate their birthdays
After someone turns 30, they don't want to be reminded how old they are
(you're 30th birthday is diffrent then your 10th birthday)


I wonder if, after 2000/800 yrs they still celibrate their birthdays?
maybe only on the centuries?

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Date:    Wed, 24 Jul 2002 11:32:22 -0400
From:    Tim Phillips <Timp@d.......>
Subject: Re: YKYBOWFKW...

> Come to think of it, would Uncle or Nick have invested in the stock market?
        I'm sure the deBrabant' Foundation is heavily invested.
        For personal wealth... I'd bet that LaCroix has a traditional
treasure chest.  Precious gems and rare metals.  The sort of things
that are very liquid and almost untraceable.
        He might play the market for a while (a few decades) but I'd bet
he'd put his trust in something he can easily disappear into the
night with in his pocket.
> I wonder what Uncle would do to a CEO who messed up...
        The CEO would just "disappear during his nightly walk".
        As was once stated about someone else  "I don't now what he has
planned for you.  But, I'm sure it will be very inventive,  very
painful and very permanent".

        Tim

     Tim Phillips
     Systems Developer II
     802-241-3420    timp@d.......
     "We can not run out of Time.  There is infinite Time."
      "This.   This is no good.  Never use this."   Zathrus.

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Date:    Wed, 24 Jul 2002 16:29:31 +0000
From:    Nancy Kaminski <nancykam@a.......>
Subject: Re: feeling stupid

> Mt Vesuvius erupted around 79AD

In the afternoon of August 24, 79AD to be precise.

> So that would make him 1923 + what ever his
> age was when he was broght over
> I'm guessing he was 35-40 yrs old when he was brought
> over so that would make him 1958-ish

I thought he was more like 45-ish or so.

> I wonder if vampires still bother to celibrate their birthdays
> After someone turns 30, they don't want to be reminded how old they are
> (you're 30th birthday is diffrent then your 10th birthday)

Oh, dear, I feel old. No one I know minded their 30th
birthday---it's the 45th or 50th that starts reminding
you of your mortality (although I hasten to add I
haven't reached the mid-century mark yet!)

This is a great time to remind list members of the
Conversion Day Challenge first issued by Erika Wilson in
1998. The theory is that vampires celebrate their
Conversion Day--the day that they became vampires. Erika
challenged list members to write a story about how
Lacroix celebrates his Conversion Day, which we know was
August 24, 79 AD. Some very interesting fiction has
resulted out of this challenge.

So, writers, get out your keyboards! Let's see a few
more stories about how Lacroix celebrates---does he get
presents from the kids? Does he go out and angst about
how no one knows how to build a bath anymore like the
Romans did? Does he visit the old home town? Does he
indulge in a video festival of Discovery Channel
documentaries on Great Volcanos of the World?

I'm trying to come up with a story myself, to be posted
on August 24, of course. I hope to see lots of entries!

Nancy Kaminski
nancykam@a.......
(My previous Conversion Day stories may be viewed on my
website at www.nancykam.com)

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