FORKNI-L
FORKNI-L Digest - 30 May 2002 to 31 May 2002 (#2002-162)
Fri, 31 May 2002
There are 23 messages totalling 864 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. LaCroix' teaching (3)
2. Latin? (2)
3. Whammy: (was: Did he or didn't he? LC & Nat's drink)
4. who would you choose.... (3)
5. Queen of Harps (7)
6. The Duck Lamp
7. Nick at the Crusades
8. Blu
9. Queen of Harps' historical problems (2)
10. FK ALUMNI- VCR Alert for June (2)
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Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 20:01:51 -0400
From: Mary Combs <mcombs@e.......>
Subject: Re: LaCroix' teaching
> LC was a Roman general, domination was all he knew. Nick was a
> crusader, and I think he was probably a foot soldier,
Nick was most definitely not a foot soldier.
He was a knight, and a knight was, by definition at the time Nick lived, a
rider, a man who fought on horseback. The French for Knight, "Chevalier"
(one of Nick's aliases) is based on the word for horse, "cheval."
It wasn't until many centuries later that "knight" became a nice little
title for royalty to dispense as it pleased, with no real military
obligations nor any real benefits (except the honorific "Sir" and a better
place in line at formal functions) attached.
In Nick's time, a knight was not necessarily wealthy, by any means--but do
we know from various episodes in the series that Nick was very highly born.
However, when it comes to "taking orders," Nick need not have been of lowly
station to have acquired the ability to follow commands. He grew up in a
time when obedience was a far more important concept than it is in our
society. This included not only obedience to one's superiors in rank or age
or station, but also obedience to those who were of similar rank but to whom
one had *promised* obedience in certain matters. That business of the
promise is what LaCroix holds up to him more than once, knowing quite well
how important an obligation would be to Nick.
Mary
mcombs@e....... N&Npacker
http:\\www.erols.com\mcombs
"RL=Real Life. It's that stuff that keeps happening that gets in the way of
that other stuff."--Sue Clark
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Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 21:11:09 -0400
From: Emily Lacey <laceye@a.......>
Subject: Latin?
I took Latin close to 30 years ago, and I remember that Gaul is
divided into three parts.
I hate to admit, but I don't know (or remember if I ever knew) what
"quid pro quo" means. LaCroix seems to use it alot...and I've just
taken it to mean "tit for tat". I've tried to find a translation on
the Internet but can't.
Would someone please educate me...offlist?
--
Emily Lacey
laceye@a.......
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Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 21:32:42 -0400
From: Stephanie Kellerman <stephke@i.......>
Subject: Re: Latin?
The most literal translation of the Latin words is "what for what." In our
present understanding, a more accurate translation would be "this for that."
The basic idea is that of an exchange. I do something for you, and you, in
turn, do something for me.
--
Steph
stephke@i.......
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Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 22:05:55 -0400
From: Debbie Clarke <dittany121@h.......>
Subject: Re: LaCroix' teaching
>From: Mary Combs <mcombs@e.......>
>
>In Nick's time, a knight was not necessarily wealthy, by any means--but do
>we know from various episodes in the series that Nick was very highly born.
I think I read somewhere that by the thirteenth century they were tightening
up on just who could become a Knight, starting to make it the domain of the
aristocracy. At the very least you had to be a son of knight to
qualify. Nick was definitely no foot soldier. Although obviously
very young and inexperienced Nick was supposed to be acting as Lord
Delabarre's aide or something like that. giving him a definite status in
the Delabarre household. ( In fact Nick's whole attitude while he was
serving under Lord Delabarre was that of an aristocratic I can pretty much
do what I like. including fool around with the Gwyneth . I say fool
around because romance aside there was no way the Christian Nick, would
ever have been permitted to marry the pagan Gwyneth . His family would
not have given their consent. and in those days Nick couldn't have married
without their consent. If they thought something like that was in the wind
they probably would have sent him off to the crusades to get him away from
her. ) .
That aside LaCroix would never have been at all interested in Nick if he
had been just A foot soldier. Remember LC asked Janette if it was true
she was related to royalty before he brought her across. LaCroix was not
about to make a commoner, his son.
I agree life was very regulated under the feudal system and Nick would
definitely recognize he had an obligation to LaCroix.
I still think LaCroix's personality is such that he would have no qualms
about imposing his will on a resister even if it meant he destroyed
their sanity. Nick might hesitate to do that. especially with someone
like Natalie whom he liked. It is possible Nick might find a way to
whammy a resister if someone whom he cared about life was at stake. I
should also like to point out that most of Nick's failed whammyings
took place in public.
Debbie
p.s. Nick staked LaCroix the second episode of Dark Knight in spite of
being weak with hunger. Even if you argue LaCroix didn't ever
intend to kill Nick I doubt somehow LC meant for himself to get
staked. Nick also defeated LC in Killer Instinct.
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Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 22:59:23 -0000
From: Barbara Vainio <bevainio@w.......>
Subject: Re: Whammy: (was: Did he or didn't he? LC & Nat's drink)
Shana wrote:
Barb
> herself. I think that would explain the differences in Nat's behavior
> towards and around Nick in the latter part of the second season, and in
> the third season, compared with the easy comaraderie they shared
I find this a very interesting idea. There have been many suggestions about
why Nat's interaction with Nick changed (including bad writing <g>) but this
makes quite a bit of sense to me. Nat would have felt horribly betrayed by
Nick's "I'm only playing along to keep her helping me" story and would have
been even more annoyed that he wouldn't even do what she suggested when he
didn't even care about her.
It even explains Nat's non-recognition of LaCroix in Night in Question. If
she was still pretending that Azure didn't happen she would have no reason
to recognize LC. Of course, his hypnotizing her after BMV would account for
that, too:-)
Barb
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Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 22:42:58 -0500
From: Margie Hammet <treeleaf@i.......>
Subject: Re: who would you choose....
Hmm.... I'm reading through the answers to these questions and realizing I
don't watch the same shows everyone else watches. But thinking about the
shows I do watch....
I think maybe Ruth from Six Feet Under. It would be very liberating for
her. She'd be h_ll on wheels. The only problem LC might have is
restraining her from having too good a time. <g>
Margie (treeleaf@i.......)
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Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 00:11:28 -0700
From: "B. Stone" <STONEB@g.......>
Subject: Queen of Harps
Disjointed observations:
1. This time through, I watched *very* carefully as the pitchfork-wielding
serfs came into view and decided, for once, to accept that the old-looking
ones were really old (no make-up) and the bearded ones really had beards
(no fake hair) and that left only one who resembled GWD's brother: second
from the right. And it really does look like him.
2. What Schanke says as he and Nick pass the perp being handcuffed in the
precinct (Emyr Wyn Davies again) is: "....a significant coincidence".
And it certainly is! Not only do we have Nick facing De la Barre again
after 800 years, and a lady who resembles the harpist and who cares deeply
about the harp and her people, but we even have a reincarnation of one of
the serfs who cornered Nick. Only this time, he's the one being cornered.
I think this ep deserved a Gemini for Best Creative Use of Nepotism.
3. Nick seems to be uncharacteristically guilt-free concerning his role in
the death of the antiques dealer. Or did I miss something? If the harp
had not been missing, De la Barre would not have killed the dealer, right?
4. I've watched this episode many, many times and yet this is the first time
it occurred to me that the harp could have been Nick's ticket to mortality.
(Yes, I know I can be a bit slow on the uptake sometimes.....)
The curse on the harp guarantees its (wrongful) owner a short life. If
Nick had kept the harp, would he have died shortly after obtaining it?
Previous owners all perished by age 55--Nick is a tad past that. Would the
curse still work? Would it work faster on the grounds that Nick is already
older than the curse allows? Would it simply guarantee that
he would die sometime in the next 55 years? Or would the lengthof remaining
life be pro-rated according to "vampire years"? Which brings us back to
"Would the curse still work?": 3/4 of infinity is still infinity. But
Nick never seems to be considering the harp as a means to his mortality. He
could be, when he silently broods over the harp in his loft, but we don't
know what he's thinking. He just seems bent on returning the harp to its
proper owner. I wonder if anything concerning Nick's possibletemptation to
"commit suicide by harp" was cut from the original script? The way it
stands, the closest we get to a suggestion that Nick should keep the harp
for his own special purpose is when he faces De la Barre for the last time
and De la Barre says, "You don't know what it is to live under a curse.
Every member of my family has died by age 55." We see Nick's face and we
know that he is thinking that he most certainly does know what it is to
live under a curse and that he would happily trade curses with De la Barre.
B. Stone
stoneb@g.......
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Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 22:08:19 -0700
From: Red <red@s.......>
Subject: Re: The Duck Lamp
Coincidently, there's several on eBay right now. =) If I ever saw one in
person, I do think I'd be tempted...
Red
> Omigods, I found Schanke's duck lamp! It's at TEC Innovations
> (http://misc.home.mindspring.com/index.htm) and it's about about an inch
> high, but there it is! (Look under 'Den Lamps' and scroll down.)
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Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 09:29:56 -0400
From: Debbie Clarke <dittany121@h.......>
Subject: Nick at the Crusades
I should also have added that by sending Nick to the crusades they
effectively put him under the jurisdiction of church law. He could not be
charged or held responsible for any crime he had allegedly committed
before he went to the crusades while he was serving in the Holy Land.
(remember Henry II and Becket fought about that aspect of church law.)
No one not even Lord Delabarre would expect Nick to give up any of his
social standing during his penance. He probably was sent to much the same
position he had held in the Delabarre household.
Debbie
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Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 23:08:45 +0930
From: jennii35 <jennii35@i.......>
Subject: Blu
Joe Reese lol a cop again
Just saw Blu Mankuma in a show
made in 1991, called " A Mother's
Justice" he was in it quite a lot
Dot
Dark Knightie and UFer
jennii35@i.......
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Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 09:43:51 -0400
From: Debbie Clarke <dittany121@h.......>
Subject: Re: LaCroix' teaching
>From: Nathalie <kleinemaus@c.......>
. you know, as for LC being an indulgent father, I think
>with Nick that shows through even more. . .I think someone else mentioned
>this but I don't think LC had any biological --as in someone having his
>child kind of biological -- sons. And, up until recently, it's always been
>important for a guy to produce a male. Society can be like that. I like to
>view it as Nick is the son that LaCroix never had, and that's why he
>sometimes lets nick get away with a little more, and why he indulges nick in
>this whole trying to be human thing . . . as for him telling nick to embrace
>what he is . . . LC isn't ashamed of what he is and he just feels that he is
>doing the right thing for nick by trying to get him to feel the same way
>about what he is . . .
I agree LC treats Nick like a son. from LaCroix POV he is being extremely
patient and understanding with Nick while he goes through this rather
annoying phase of eternity. It also struck me that without Nick LaCroix is
very bored. After nearly 2000 years he has seen everything, done
everything. Nick's enthusiasms, whether he agrees with them or not, give
LC a refreshing new prespective on life and as such are a source of
constant stimulation
Debbie
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Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 10:29:34 EDT
From: BKBVA@a.......
Subject: Re: Queen of Harps
B. Stone noted:
> Nick seems to be uncharacteristically guilt-free concerning his role in
> the death of the antiques dealer. Or did I miss something? If the
> harp had not been missing, De la Barre would not have killed the dealer,
> right?
I've thought of that too, although there is the issue of whether de la Barre
had the money to pay the winning bid. So we can't be sure if he went there
intending to steal it, or simply reacted to it being missing. Given that
he'd already killed once, we have to assume he wasn't planning to write a
check.
> The curse on the harp guarantees its (wrongful) owner a short life. If
> Nick had kept the harp, would he have died shortly after obtaining it?
> Previous owners all perished by age 55--Nick is a tad past that. Would
> the curse still work?
Ah, but would Nick be a "wrongful owner"? Yes, he stole it, but considering
his history with it's last rightful owner, his possession of it probably
would not be affected.
> He just seems bent on returning the harp to its
> proper owner.
But does he? His initial response on losing the auction is that he's not
letting it go. I think it's not until he realizes why Joanna wanted the harp
that it occurred to him to return it to Wales.
Beth
bkbva@a.......
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Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 07:57:41 -0700
From: Viv <viv11374@y.......>
Subject: Re: who would you choose....
--- Merrie Thomas <Dragoness987@a.......> wrote:
> Ooo...that's a real tough one. Let me think a moment...if
> Lacroix would make a new vampire of anyone on televison right
> now, I'd have to choose...Gil Grissom of CSI. I love that guy!!
> He's cool!! :-)
> Cousin Merrie
Well, on the one hand he already works the night shift and deals
with blood on a regular basis, but he also has the same
dedication to law enforcement that so annoys LaCroix in Nick.
Interestingly, he also reminds me of Nat in that they are almost
obsessed with solving their forensic "puzzles".
=====
Viv
Don't annoy the crazy person
Life's a witch and then you fly
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Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 14:58:10 +0000
From: Nancy Kaminski <nancykam@a.......>
Subject: Re: Queen of Harps
This is just about my favorite FK episode. Despite the
historical inaccuracies, it's got everything I love
about FK---a great flashback, a neat present-day story,
good relative-spotting opportunities, some sly humor, a
nice dose of romanticism...well, let's just say I really
like it.
Oh---it has Nick on a Horse. That always counts. <g>
B. Stone wrote:
> could be, when he silently broods over the harp in his loft, but we don't
> know what he's thinking. He just seems bent on returning the harp to its
> proper owner.
Not at first, though. I thought he wanted the harp as a
token of what had to be the last time he was mortal and
innocent---at that time, he still believed and trusted
the Church and his superiors, he was in love with a
beautiful woman, and the world, no doubt, seemed a
wonderful place. The harp, in a sense, was a witness to
all that, and by possessing it, Nick could regain a
small bit of his former self.
I love the moment when Natalie asks Nick why he wants
the harp so much, and he says, "It's from...Before." The
expression on Nick's face when he says that contains so
much emotion, you can see how deep his feelings are
towards the harp.
> I wonder if anything concerning Nick's possible temptation to
> "commit suicide by harp" was cut from the original script?
I really don't think that entered Nick's mind. See above.
I think that Nick's sense of justice (but not
necessarily his sense of law) overcame his desire to
keep the harp. He saw a way to break the Delabarre curse-
--return the harp to its rightful place (back to the
land of its creators, in the possession of Gwynneth's
descendants, not in the possession of the descendant of
a Norman invader). The mystical balance is restored.
Perhaps this will help Nick on his quest to become
human, in that he has done what was right.
Nancy Kaminski
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Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 11:18:25 -0400
From: Portia Eins <portia1@m.......>
Subject: Re: Queen of Harps
Oh, sigh, yes. Oh, I have to watch this again. Hope it taped!
Portia, slipping into dreamweaving over young Nicholas with the sun in his hair
and a proud stallion under him....sigh! :o)
On Fri, 31 May 2002 14:58:10 +0000 Nancy Kaminski <nancykam@a.......> wrote:
Oh---it has Nick on a Horse. That always counts. <g>
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Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 11:20:27 EDT
From: BKBVA@a.......
Subject: Re: Queen of Harps
Nancy said:
> This is just about my favorite FK episode. Despite the
> historical inaccuracies,
As it is mine, and I also care not about the bad history.
> it's got everything I love
> about FK---a great flashback, a neat present-day story,
> <snip> a nice dose of romanticism...well, let's just say I really
> like it.
The romanticism, and particularly the mysticism, is what I adore about it.
> Oh--it has Nick on a Horse. That always counts. <g>
Not to mention Nick in daylight. :-)
Beth
bkbva@a.......
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Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 11:55:31 -0400
From: Lisa McDavid <mclisa@m.......>
Subject: Queen of Harps' historical problems
Since I was one of the first, of course, to jump all over the incredibly bad
history of this episode, I would like to say that it's not Gillian Horvath's
fault. She submitted the script based on a real situation in 13th century Wales.
The king had died with two heirs, one of whom was illegitimate but favored by
most of the Welsh. In Welsh law, illegitimacy wasn't a bar to his inheriting as it
would have been in most of the rest of Europe. The pope sent a diplomatic
mission in favor of the legitimate son, who was eventually the successor.
Now, please don't anyone take this as anti-Paganism. It's just that the
historical truth is that there were no open practitioners of Paganism, declaring
themselves to be non-Christian, of any kind in 13th c. Wales. Underground, possibly,
although unambiguous historical documentation hasn't so far been found. People
who honestly believed themselves to be Christians but were actually practicing
Pagan traditions, certainly, as in the rest of Europe. By the 13th c., Wales
had been a Christian country for some 500 years. Anyone who, as Gwyneth does in
the show, openly practised Paganism would have been arrested and tried for
heresy. She might or might not have been executed -- the Welsh were never big on the
death penalty -- but neither would she have been set free again unless she
abjured. Likewise, there were no openly Pagan lordships or sub-kingdoms.
Gillian knew this. In her original script, the conflict had nothing to do with
Christians and Pagans. Instead it accurately focused on the real political
situation. She was anxious to have this known when the show first aired.
She was also anxious to have it known that she did not write "you cling to your
Paganism like lichen to a stone." :) The speeding truck that takes out the
modern de la Barre wasn't her doing, either.
BTW, in her original stage directions, the harp "cries out" on its own when de
la Barre touches it in the motel. This was not done in the final sound track,
although you can see the actor reacting to it.
McLisa
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Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 10:19:56 -0700
From: SLH <jerezfino@y.......>
Subject: Re: Queen of Harps' historical problems
--- Lisa McDavid <mclisa@m.......> wrote:
>
> :) The speeding truck that takes out the
> modern de la Barre wasn't her doing, either.
Has anyone seen the original script that GH wrote?
What was her original ending/fate for de la Barre?
BTW, I, too, really loved this episode despite the
historical liberties taken.
:) Boomer
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Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 10:46:04 -0700
From: Sunny LaCountess <countessa2000@y.......>
Subject: Re: Queen of Harps
--- Portia Eins <portia1@m.......> wrote:
> Portia, slipping into dreamweaving over young Nicholas
> with the sun in his hair and a proud stallion under
> him....sigh! :o)
Not to mention a Nicholas who looks refreshingly younger
in the flashbacks compared to the present day story. I
would only call that FK magic; I totally bought that he
was in his twenties in those flashbacks and his (mortal)
thirties in the present story. There, he looks and acts
almost like an innocent kid. Ger has a gift for playing
younger than his age; one of the many things I love about
him.
=====
LaCountess -- Twilight Knightie,IB,DT,UF,Cotk
Visit my website at http://www.lacountess.com/Fkmain.html
"Vampires are make believe, just like elves and gremlins and eskimos!"
--Homer Simpson
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Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 11:19:51 -0700
From: Cheryl Hoffman <dayabaygal@y.......>
Subject: FK ALUMNI- VCR Alert for June
Well, here it is June already, summer's starting, and here's a
full month of things to watch - something by all the main
cast, and lots of other goodies.
Picks of the Month:
Forever Knight SciFi - M-F at 11am Eastern
Cube SciFi 24th -- lots of FK alumni &
interesting movie
both Ger's movies
Nero Wolfe Mysteries -- lots of FK Alumni in this show
As always, please check your local listings for exact dates & times,
I have been known to make typos (and so have the sources I've pulled
from)
NIGEL BENNETT (LaCroix)
All I Wanna Do (Strike!) - (Harvey Sawyer) Encore 19,23,27
The Crossing (Maj.Gen. Gates) A&E 27
Invasion! (Michael O'Shea) HBO2 10,22
Murder at 1600 (Burton Cash-Secret Service) TBS 3,4,28,29
Narrow Margin (Jack Wooton) TBS 5,29
Sanctuary (Senator Macguire) HBO-2 23
GERAINT WYN DAVIES (Nick Knight)
Dancing in the Dark (Dr. Lambert) LifetimeM 20,21
Other Women's Children (Matt Stewart) LifetimeM 11,12
CATHERINE DISHER (Natalie Lambert)
A New Life (Student) Max 14
JOHN KAPELOS (Schanke)
The Boost (Joel) Showtime 6,14
Starz 4,16
Class WE 1
The Craft (Nancy's Father) MMax 5,20
Deep Red (Det. Mark Waters) SciFi 18
Defenseless (Jack Hammer) TNT 7
For the Love of Aaron (Dr. Teplitsky) LifetimeM 5,6
Highway Heartbreaker (Det. Baker) Lifetime 8
Internal Affairs (Steven Arrocas) MMax 6,17,28
Nothing in Common Family 1
Vibes (Eugene) HBO-F 6,16,27
HBO2 25
Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman
"Lucky Leon" TNT 4
The Sports Pages --various eps Show3 5,6,8,9,16,21,22,25
DEBORAH DUCHENE (Janette Ducharme)
The Broken Chord (Allison Chapman) LifetimeM 12,13
Sugartime (Christine McGuire) MMax 3
GARY FARMER (Capt Stonetree)
Blown Away (Anderson) USA 1
NATSUKO OHAMA (Capt Cohen)
Speed (Mrs. Kamino - woman on bus) Fox 30
BLU MANKUMA (Capt Reese)
Family of Cops Court 16
For the Love of Aaron (Mark Perkins) LifetimeM 5,6
Mermaid (Caretaker) Showtime2 1,5,11,20
BEN BASS (Javier Vachon)
Bride of Chucky SciFi 11
A Killer Among Friends Lifetime 8
The 6th Day (Bodyguard) Showtime 1,9,22,28,29
KRISTIN LEHMAN (Urs)
Alaska - (Florence) Showtime 1,2,10,21,26,30
Showtime2 6,9,12,13,17,18,22,25
BERNARD BEHRENS (DuChamps - Blood Money)
Invasion! (Mayor Claire) HBO2 10,22
CYNTHIA BELLIVEAU (Alexandra - Faithful Followers)
Family of Cops (Melanie Fein) Court 16
Family of Cops II Court 16
Family of Cops III Court 16
A New Life (Tina) MAX 14
HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN (Andre - Fallen Idol)
All I Wanna Do (Strike!) - (Tinka's Date) Encore 19,23,27
The Virgin Suicides (Jake Conley) TNC 1,4,7,9,23,28
Anakin Skywalker in Attack of the Clones -- at your local theater
TRACEY COOK (Rebecca - Dying for Fame, also Alma)
SnakeEaterIII-His Law (Hildy) Show 11
Show2 15,28
CHRISTINA COX (Joan of Arc - For I Have Sinned)
Brother's Promise: Dan Jansen Story (Natalie) True 3,13,18,19,22,26
No One Could Protect Her (Det. Beth Jordan) TNT 8,27,28
NICOLE DeBOER (Jeannie - Dark Knight)
Counterfeit Contessa (Helena Everett) WE 1
Cube (Leaven) SciFi 24
Family of Cops III (Jackie Fein) Court 16
JFK: Reckless Youth (Olive Cawley) True 3,8,14,18,26,27
My Date w/the President's Daughter Disney 7
MARIA DEL MAR (Magda - For I Have Sinned)
Price of Glory Encore 3,9,14,22,26
DAMON D'OLIVEIRA (Inca - Black Buddha)
Short Circuit 2 (Bones) HBO-Fam 3,12,20,21,23,29
COLM FEORE (Walken - Blood Money)
Critical Care (Wilson) Oxygen 3
Night Sins (Deacon Fletcher) TNT 29
Striking Poses (Linus) Lifetime 10
Truman (Charlie Ross) MMax 11
VON FLORES (Tran - Can't Run Can't Hide)
Blood on Her Hands (Mike Lee) Lifetime 19
Car 54, Where are You? (Mr. Kim) Flix 4,15,20,23,24,26
COLIN FOX (Dr. Nystrom - Near Death)
Nero Wolfe Mystery (Chef) A&E Sunday Nights
DAVID HEMBLEN (Dr. Vanderwal - Sons of Belial)
Family of Cops II (Yannis Ivanov) Court 16
Valentine's Day (Jennings) MMax 1,10
TORI HIGGINSON (Erica - Last Act)
Family of Cops III (Caroline Chandler) Court 16
GEORDIE JOHNSON (Jerry - My Boyfriend is a Vampire)
A Change of Place (Jacques) WE 23
KARI MATCHETT (Alyssa - Dead of Night)
Family of Cops II (Marina) Court 16
Nero Wolfe Mystery (various) A&E Sunday Nites
MICHAEL McMANUS (Father Rochefort - For I Have Sinned,
also Kai in LEXX)
Hard to Forget (John Gilman) WE 11,12
ANDREW MILLER (Andrew - Stranger than Fiction)
Cube (Andrew) SciFi 24
EARL PASTKO (Miklos, the bartender at the Raven)
Battlefield Earth (Bartender) HBO2 5,8
CLAIRE RANKIN (Fleur - Be My Valentine)
Brother's Promise: Dan Jansen Story (Robin
Jansen) True 3,13,18,19,22,26
Two if By Sea (Reporter ) MMax 14,22
JULIAN RICHINGS (Dr. Paul Dana - A More Permanent Hell)
Cube (Alderson) SciFi 24
SANDI ROSS (Grace Balthazar, Nat's assistant)
Family of Cops (Judge Williams) Court 16
Ms. Scrooge (Bank Teller) Max 24
On Hostile Ground (Voodoo Lady) TBS 7
Two if By Sea (Conductor) MMax 14,22
Valentine's Day (Lena) MMax 1,10
ANDREA ROTH (Lucy Sylvaine - Faithful Followers)
A Change of Place WE 23
CEDRIC SMITH (Liam O'Neal - Bad Blood)
JFK: Reckless Youth (Professor Hopper ) True 3,8,14,18,26,27
RICK SPRINGFIELD (Nick Knight - original pilot)
A Change of Place WE 23
AMANDA TAPPING (Dr. Naomi Ross -Near Death)
Stargate SG-1 check local listings on Showtime, Fox & SciFi
MAURICE DEAN WINT (Frank - Francesca)
Cube (Quintin) SciFi 24
OTHER FUN STUFF:
Bram Stoker's Dracula TNT 30
Doctor Who - the Movie SciFi 30
The Last Days of Pompeii TCM 15,16
(1913 Historical Drama - Silent Movie)
The Little Vampire Encore 1,5,6,10,28
The Messenger: Joan of Arc Bravo 25
Shadow of the Vampire Max 20
Trials of Oscar Wilde Showtime 25
Show-2 3,7,8,11,12,26,29
Vampire in Brooklyn HBO-2 21,30
Cheryl Hoffman, NA (& I ain't changin' it), Cousin, NBN, G4, Bridging
"My, my... we are in a mood tonight.." -LaCroix
dayabaygal@y....... Richland, WA
AIM/Yahoo: DayaBayGal ICQ: 30464256
Cheryl Hoffman, NA (& I ain't changin' it), Cousin, Val,
NBN, G4, Bridging, Indecency,
"My, my.. we are in a mood tonight.." -LaCroix
dayabaygal@y....... Richland, WA
AIM/Yahoo: DayaBayGal ICQ: 30464256
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Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 11:38:25 -0700
From: SLH <jerezfino@y.......>
Subject: Re: FK ALUMNI- VCR Alert for June
--- Cheryl Hoffman <dayabaygal@y.......> wrote:
>COLM FEORE (Walken - Blood Money)
If I'm not mistaken, I've also seen Colm Feore in the
trailers to "The Sum of All Fears" which opens in
theaters this weekend.
:) Boomer
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Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 11:41:22 -0700
From: Megan Hull <mistryder@h.......>
Subject: Re: who would you choose....
My vote is Faith from BtVS. #1- she's already psychotic #2- she doesn't
have any problem taking orders as long as the order is to do something she
likes doing (like killing people). #3- after Nick, I don't think LC would
be too eager to pick up another difficult child. At least, not right away.
-Megan
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Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 15:05:11 -0400
From: Portia Eins <portia1@m.......>
Subject: Re: Queen of Harps
Oh yes! "sigh" He also came across as somehow "young and innocent" (how
strange) in the flashbacks in "Curiouser and Cursiouser," IMO. I love that haircut on
him with the bangs and the ruffly curls.
Portia, very "Knightie" in this post "g"
On Fri, 31 May 2002 10:46:04 -0700 Sunny LaCountess <countessa2000@y.......>
wrote:
Not to mention a Nicholas who looks refreshingly younger in the flashbacks
compared to the present day story. I would only call that FK magic; I totally
bought that he was in his twenties in those flashbacks and his (mortal) thirties in
the present story.
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