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FORKNI-L Digest - 7 Nov 2001 to 8 Nov 2001 (#2001-338)

Thu, 8 Nov 2001

There are 10 messages totalling 288 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. People's Sexiest Man Alive Poll
  2. Raven Awards
  3. p.v. and FK
  4. Birthdays Today:  Nov. 7, 2001
  5. poetic vision
  6. Which episode? (3)
  7. Reese investigates (was Re: question of the week) (2)

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Date:    Wed, 7 Nov 2001 17:53:23 -0800
From:    "K. C. Smith" <tigrlady2u@j.......>
Subject: People's Sexiest Man Alive Poll

You can go and put in the name of who YOU think should be voted Sexiest
Man Alive.  I put in Geraint Wyn Davies and, of course, Shana voted for
Nigel Bennett (poor, sick child ;) ).  Here's the URL, if you want to
participate:
http://people.aol.com/people/magazine/package/0,11546,171538,00.html
Have fun!

KC Smith
tigrlady2u@j.......
"I've never met a chocolate I didn't like."

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Date:    Thu, 8 Nov 2001 15:52:24 +1300
From:    Knightraven <kiwisun@i.......>
Subject: Raven Awards

Just a quick note to remind, and invite new writers and old, to enter =
the Raven Awards Competition!

Everyone and anyone is welcome! This years prizes are FK Tshirts!

Please pass this on to any and all FK lists.

http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/knightraven

Kylie.

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Date:    Wed, 7 Nov 2001 22:56:14 EST
From:    Julia Kocich <JKocich@a.......>
Subject: Re: p.v. and FK

(Lisa: I've tried to clip the original points to 4 lines, sorry for their
length!)

<< As far as [Parriott] was concerned, the story was, vampires and mortals
 don't mix, <snip>  As far as
 Parriott was concerned, the series NATURALLY ended with the death of Natalie
 and Nick; that was the way his vision of the FK universe worked. >>

It's an interesting thought, but I'm not so sure that Parriott was so
categorical about it, going into season one or two. It's my impression that
he wanted to drive a stake into the FK franchise by the end of season three
only because of the changes in his original idea that had been imposed upon
him by The Suits. I don't think he ever planned to have a mortal Nick and Nat
walk off into the sunrise together, but that doesn't automatically imply that
he saw it ending as it did.

<< As a corollary, all the guilt Nick feels about people who die because they
 get too close to him, that we (and Natalie) think is completely misplaced,
 perhaps Parriott didn't think it was misplaced.  Nick was right.  Anyone who
 gets too close to him dies, because vampires are inherently dangerous to
 humans, period. >>

Um ... I saw it as *conflicted* vampires as being, sometimes, dangerous to
humans, regardless of their good intentions. And therein lay the drama, the
tension that drives the series: a good vampire is still a vampire, and has to
deal with both good and bad within himself. Kinda like mortals, you know <g>?
I think that both LC and Nat sense that Nick's feeling of guilt is just a
part of his character that is independent of his being either vampire or
mortal. Come on -- do you really think that if Nick attained mortality, that
he'd be completely carefree, even careless, about his impact on others?

<< I'm not saying I agree with this, but is it an acceptable reading of the
 whole series?  Was Parriott in fact a lot more negative, all along, than I
 would have guessed when I was watching it episode by episode?
  >>

I don't think Parriott was being negative until the show was twisted into
something different from what it had been, in season three. Unless I'm
misunderstanding your question -- do you mean "negative" in that Nick and Nat
aren't mortal, together, by the end of the series? IMO, I don't think that
was ever going to happen given the characters and vampire universe that was
developed and shown to us.

Best,
Julia
UF list cobra
jkocich@a.......

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Date:    Thu, 8 Nov 2001 03:00:56 -0200
From:    Iracema Marianne M=FCller?= <marianne@g.......>
Subject: Re: Birthdays Today:  Nov. 7, 2001

WOW, Happy Birthday to all of you.
Just imagine all of them on one big cake...

marianne:)the insomniac who is hungry for a piece of cake.

At 06:09 07/11/01 -0600, you wrote:
>Hi Y'all!
>
>We have a triple play today!  Having a birthday today are:
>
>Kristin                         kris1228@s.......
>Cindy    (married to Robin)     niteluvr@s.......
>Robin (married to Cindy)        mfaut@s.......
>
>Other people who share this birthday are:
>Billy Graham, evangelist
>Joni Mitchell, HALL OF FAMER, Folk Performer, Composer/Songwriter
>Johnny Rivers, Rock & Roll Performer, Singer/Guitarist
>Albert Camus, Novelist, Philosopher, Dramatist/Playwright
>Marie Curie,  C hemist, Physicist
>
>This is also the anniversary of:
>1805, the Lewis & Clark Expedition first sighted the Pacific Ocean.
>1876, Edward Bouchet, is first black to recieve a PhD, in US college
>(Yale).
>1965, "Poppin' Fresh" the PILLSBURY doughboy debuts in TV commercials
>
>Please remember to send birthday greetings to these folks at the above
>addresses!
>
>Kristin, Cindy and Robin, I hope y'all have a very Happy Day!
>
>Terri
>eowyn3@j......., eowyn@w.......
>GWDFC, G-IV Attendee, Knighties Listowner, TKD, FK X-Stitcher,
>Proud Survivor of Fk-fic  Wars 8-11, Keeper of the FK Birthday List
>She can be taught!  But only in little bytes!

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Date:    Wed, 7 Nov 2001 21:49:24 -0800
From:    Klytaimnestra <klytaimnestra@s.......>
Subject: poetic vision

Molly/Stormborn wrote:

> ...that  FK can be viewed two
> ways: 1) as a romance between Nick and Nat, or 2) as a commentary on the
> human condition.

I go for 2) as well.  There is a romance motif between Nick & Nat, but I
think that just assists the commentary on the human condition, by giving us
an emotional hook for it.

K
--
Klytaimnestra         klytaimnestra@s.......
Fanfiction at http://www.klytaimnestra.com

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Date:    Thu, 8 Nov 2001 08:16:57 -0500
From:    Tim Phillips <TIMP@d.......>
Subject: Which episode?

I need help identifying an FK episode.

The story line is about an female vampire friend of Nick's who
commits suicide because she feels that she has ceased to
contribute and become a "burden" on the universe.

I want to say that the character's name was Erica, but that is really
hazy.

Can anyone identify the episode?
        Thanks,
                Tim Tim Phillips
 timp@d.......

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Date:    Thu, 8 Nov 2001 07:31:54 -0600
From:    Kristin <kris1228@s.......>
Subject: Re: Which episode?

Last Act was the episode of season 1.

Kristin
http://knightvision.4ever.cc
"When you only have eyes for the Knight..."

> I need help identifying an FK episode.
>
> The story line is about an female vampire friend of Nick's who
> commits suicide because she feels that she has ceased to
> contribute and become a "burden" on the universe.
>
> I want to say that the character's name was Erica, but that is really
> hazy.
>
> Can anyone identify the episode?
>         Thanks,
>                 Tim Tim Phillips
>  timp@d.......

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Date:    Thu, 8 Nov 2001 08:21:20 -0500
From:    Lisa McDavid <mclisa@m.......>
Subject: Re: Which episode?

Tim asked
>The story line is about an female vampire friend of Nick's who
>commits suicide because she feels that she has ceased to
>contribute and become a "burden" on the universe. <snip> character's
>name was Erica, but that is really hazy.

What is Last Act and I'll take FK episodes for $200, please. :)

And yes, her name was Erica.

McLisa
mclisa@m.......
Can anyone identify the episode?
        Thanks,
                Tim Tim Phillips
 timp@d.......

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Date:    Thu, 8 Nov 2001 09:04:38 -0500
From:    Gladys Bears <rockiebears@n.......>
Subject: Reese investigates (was Re: question of the week)

knightfangs <knightfangs@h.......> wrote:

>If I'm not mistaken, I believe this was done in a fanfic.  Does anyone else
>know for sure?
>> where Reese tries to investigate "What happened to Nick
>> and Natalie?"

There is a story on Mel's page: Out There by Calliope, where Reese dedicates
himself to solve the mysterie of their deaths.
In Dorothy Elggren's Silence trilogy he investigates with the help of a
pathologist and a young detective.
In Kathy Whelton's Puzzles he arrives at Nick's loft in time to...
(Sorry, but I don't want to spoil the story!)

Gladys

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Date:    Thu, 8 Nov 2001 10:25:18 EST
From:    Judith Lieberman <JudithL21@a.......>
Subject: Re: Reese investigates (was Re: question of the week)

Kathy's tale is alson the beginning of a wonderful
trilogy.  They are all on Mel's page and Nancy Kaminski's fiction page.  for
Dorothy's you had better have the hankies ready.  JudyL

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