FORKNI-L
FORKNI-L Digest - 11 Sep 2001 to 12 Sep 2001 (#2001-276)
Wed, 12 Sep 2001
There are 31 messages totalling 901 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. OT? - I Feel Sick (6)
2. judging others (2)
3. tragedy (2)
4. Reporting in from Toronto (2)
5. A Bit of Humor
6. Nat a vampire?! (Not Nick's fledgling!!!)
7. To my FK friends USA
8. Checking in...
9. Holding On (3)
10. Worried For List Members
11. Admin: let's stay out of politics (4)
12. Inspiring quote/military bases
13. Gotta hand it to FK fans...!
14. Wow! (2)
15. Tragedy
16. Pics/jpeg's
17. Giving blood
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Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:45:03 -0700
From: Kyer <kyer@p.......>
Subject: Re: OT? - I Feel Sick
Sorry---that was supposed to be private and right now I am blushing at my
stupid finger for hitting the wrong button. What a horrible awful no good
day. Can we all just leave the commentary to making sure everyone is
allright and on FK itself? Enough things have exploded today.
: (
Kyer
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Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 21:07:58 -0700
From: Klytaimnestra <klytaimnestra@s.......>
Subject: judging others
Someone said something about not judging others by our standards. I think
that's a good idea within limits. But killing thousands, perhaps tens of
thousands, of civilians is way past my limit of moral relativism.
--
Klytaimnestra klytaimnestra@s.......
Fanfiction at http://www.klytaimnestra.com
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 13:43:19 +0000
From: jennii35 <jennii35@i.......>
Subject: tragedy
This a great tragedy, my thoughts
are with all the American people
Dot
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 00:22:29 -0400
From: Marg <mytoronto@h.......>
Subject: Re: Reporting in from Toronto
June, thanks for letting us know that you are safe.
All day, people having been leaving flowers at the door of the US
Consulate in Toronto out of sympathy and respect. The Muslim community
in Toronto have expressed their horror and sorrow for the events in the
US. About 50 of the Toronto EMS service have volunteered to assist NYC
EMS and are readying medical supplies to bring with them.
There are massive lineups at the Ontario border crossings which were
closed briefly, but are now open again, but under strict security.
There's so many friends I haven't heard from yet. I hope you're OK.
June Williams wrote:
> I'm fine, but I do have one friend who worked in TWTC
> and we haven't heard from him yet. But that's not
--
Marg Yamanaka <mytoronto@h.......>
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Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 23:29:16 -0500
From: "Nancy E. Kaminski" <nancykam@m.......>
Subject: Re: OT? - I Feel Sick
Grace wrote:
> comparing this tragedy to Pearl Harbor. The WTC was not a
> military installation, and though
> the Pentagon is a government agency, once again it's not
> military.
A small correction--the Pentagon is the command center of the US military
forces. It is indeed a military target, although there are many civilian
employees working there.
Nancy Kaminski
nancykam@m.......
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 00:48:58 -0400
From: knightfangs <knightfangs@h.......>
Subject: Re: OT? - I Feel Sick
> > What a shame! So many human lives (and animals,
> >too) thrown away just to make a point!
>
> (1) And what of all of the lives Our Favorite Vamps have thrown away????
If it were RL I'd think it was most tragic. Even though it's only fiction, I
still feel sorry for the characters that fell victim to our FK vamps, as I'm
sure Nick does also.
>
> (2) While most of us here believe that these attacks were a shame and a
> waste of precious lives, not every culture has the same values we do. Some
> believe that the only lives with inherent value are those of male adult
> believers; others believe that the value of life is to die well. In dying
> for their cause, the terrorists died well (by their standards). I hope most
> of us here don't think of judging others only by our own standards.
Though I admire the Japanese and their culture, I still feel that Seppuku and
Jisatsu are still a shame and basically a waste of life. I might understand
it, somewhat (it's hard with my limited Western views and Roman Catholic
upbringing), but it doesn't mean I have to like it. And chances are, even if I
understood it, I won't be performing either of those ceremonies. No matter
what, though, if that's part of their culture and they want to practice it,
that's fine, I don't judge. The problem I have is when someone, I don't care
who they are or what their culture is, has a belief that (s)he tries to push
upon someone else. To me this is the situation that happened today. They may
think that dying for their beliefs is all well and good - now they've hurt
their enemies' allies (i.e. Israel) - but, in reality, what have they
accomplished? They've put to death themselves (I don't want to say "who cares",
but who cares?), they've killed over 500 people in this country, and now
they've made a much bigger enemy - US; the United States.
Every time I see the pictures on TV of those planes hitting those buildings, I
feel a pain in my chest and I want to cry. How many of those people in the
planes and in those buildings wanted to die? I don't know the answer either,
but I'm guessing that it was probably a lot less than all of those that did.
And all they were doing was taking a plane to go somewhere or working for a
living to make enough money to *live* the American dream, not die well.
No, I won't judge them by 'our' standards. It's not for me to judge. That
honor goes to a Higher Authority.
Grace
Knightfangs
Survivor War XI ** Wolfville 2001
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 00:51:52 -0400
From: knightfangs <knightfangs@h.......>
Subject: Re: A Bit of Humor
Thank you Anita; I needed that more than you'll ever know.
Knightfangs
Survivor War XI ** Wolfville 2001
----- Original Message -----
From: "Anita K. Blake" <AKBlake@l.......>
To: <FORKNI-L@l.......>
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:29 PM
Subject: A Bit of Humor
> I just saw on the weather news that there is a tropical storm 'Felix', wouldn't
> that mean it's a Felix Twist? lol Just though we could all use a short emotional
> break, remember that laughter is the universal cure-all, even if you can't
> laugh, try to grin!
>
> Anita
> "These days my life is a cross between a preternatural soap opera and
> an action-adventure movie. Sort of As the Casket Turns meets Rambo"
>
> Anita Blake- The Killing Dance by Laurell K. Hamilton
>
> Owner of the X-Men Fanfic archive,
> Co-owner of the Unofficial Hugh Jackman Fan Club (the UHJFC)
> and the new FKFanfic2 archive,
> and member #13 of the Lisa Ryder FC!
>
> AKBlake@l....... ~ http://x-menfanfic.50megs.com ~
> http://uhjfc.50megs.com ~ http://fkfanfic2.50megs.com
>
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 03:41:51 EDT
From: Meliss9900@a.......
Subject: Re: OT? - I Feel Sick
In a message dated 9/12/01 2:31:34 AM Central Daylight Time,
darkknightie@y....... writes:
<< **I live in San Antonio with four military bases. I
felt(and still feel) like a sitting duck. they are on
highest alert. They just showed F16s sitting fully
armed and waiting in case they are needed.
Maria
>>
I'm in San Antonio as well and I feel like one of those ducks as well. My
Father works for SouthWest Research Inc. which is a HUGE facility and they
do an awful lot of goverment work. So I'm worried about that as well.
Melissa
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 03:46:19 EDT
From: Meliss9900@a.......
Subject: Re: OT? - I Feel Sick
In a message dated 9/12/01 2:31:47 AM Central Daylight Time,
knightfangs@h....... writes:
<< I'm getting so sick of so many people on TV, mostly newscasters and
government officials, comparing this tragedy to Pearl Harbor. >>
Granted Pearl Harbor was a miliatry installation but there were hundreds of
civilians killed as well. IMO the comparison is that now, as then, America
(and the whole World) has suddenly changed. It will never be as "innocent"
(for want of a better word) again.
Melissa
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 04:39:43 -0500
From: Nichole A Knight <cdisiere@j.......>
Subject: Re: Nat a vampire?! (Not Nick's fledgling!!!)
Thanks. Now I can revise my story somewhat...
Nichole
On Tue, 11 Sep 2001 17:12:23 -0400 Valerie Kessler
<valerie@w.......> writes:
> > Does anyone know the name and/or author of the story where Natalie
> > becomes a vampire as an old argument between Nick and his vampiric
> > sibling, Paul? (With Paul as Nat's master.)
>
> *raises hand* Mea culpa. "Further to Fall".
>
> You can find it on my fic page at:
>
> http://www.wiliqueen.com/fanfic.html
>
> Wow, I haven't even really thought about that story in so long...
> *g*
>
> (Mind you, today I'm not doing much thinking in general...just being
> shocky. Glad to hear from all the listsibs who've checked in to say
> they're okay.)
>
> --
> ~:O Valerie Meachum Kessler
> valerie@w....... ~ www.wiliqueen.com
> "I've determined that he needs to go on a field trip
> to Apophis' home planet. Spray painted pink and with a
> 'kick me' sign on his back. Along with Kennedy, Maybourne,
> Simmons, and Samuels." -- Tina re: Kinsey
"I am what I am, and I don't think Betty Ford takes vampires!"
~Detective Nick Knight/Nicholas de Brabant "Forever Knight"
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 06:45:30 -0400
From: Stephanie Kellerman <stephke@i.......>
Subject: Re: tragedy
I am not sure this has really hit me yet. I think what might have been for me.
My daughter was living in Manhattan, she has a lot of friends there. My brother
in law worked near there and was always going to the towers for work. I had a
friend who was at the top of the towers just a couple of weeks ago. I feel
pretty lucky as everyone I know is all right.
I do have a couple of pics that a sister of a friend took from a building on the
11th floor before the people there were evacuated. She actually caught the 2nd
plane flying toward the tower and then the explosion after it hit.
http://www.nimr.org/trade/trade1.jpg
http://www.nimr.org/trade/trade2.jpg
For those that can get a Boston Herald, you might end up seeing these pics in
the newspaper as they are interested in buying them.
--
Steph
stephke@i.......
http://www.fkvoyage.com
http://www.milillo.com
ftp://ftp.win.net/winnet/fkvoyage/fkfanfic/
http://www.ensley-wilson.com
http://www.nimr.org
http://ej-art.com
http://www.nimr.net
http://www.richardbasehart.com
"The sea..where each man, as in a mirror, finds himself", Richard Basehart as
Ishmael
"If you obey all the rules, you miss all the fun." Katherine Hepburn
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 21:33:35 +1000
From: Access1 <taliesyn@c.......>
Subject: To my FK friends USA
To my FK friends I grieve over what has been done to you.
To every one in America you have my prays.
I saw this unfold while on night shift in Melbourne Australia and it
was so unbelievable, you have the support of Australian people
here, your not alone.
Alexander J Braun - Taliesyn@c....... - ICQ # 12610993
"You know, I used to think it was awful that life was so unfair. Then I
thought, wouldn't it be much worse if life were fair, and all the
terrible things that happen to us come because we actually deserve them?
So, now I take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of
the universe". Marcus, B5
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 04:39:05 -0700
From: Emily <emilymhanson@y.......>
Subject: Re: judging others
The main news organizations have pinpointed Osama Bin Laden as the
culprit, because he is the logical choice and there was some data
that possibly linked the hijackers to him. So it is not judging an
entire culture, but rather the extremist beliefs and hatred of a very
few. There are always a few bad apples in every barrel; Bin Laden is
apparently one of them.
Emily
--- Klytaimnestra <klytaimnestra@s.......> wrote:
> Someone said something about not judging others by our standards.
> I think that's a good idea within limits. But killing thousands,
>perhaps tens of thousands, of civilians is way past my limit of
>moral relativism.
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 08:20:16 -0500
From: Christy Stillman <cstillma@u.......>
Subject: Re: Checking in...
Since she only has computer access at work, I just thought I'd let y'all
know that one of the lurkers on this list who played with NA in the last
war, Beverly Gordon, is alive and well, if suffering from the same shock we
all feel. She works in Manhattan but was away from the area of
destruction. Some of you met her at LCA last year. It took a while for me
to reach her as they didn't release her from work until about 2:30, and
then she had to walk across the bridge and catch a subway in Queens.
Now that I know that she's okay, that my husband's Aunt, Uncle and Cousin
are okay, and that Lora wasn't at the Pentagon yesterday, my little list
has been checked off. I pray that the rest of you are so fortunate.
Christy
cstillma@u.......
"A common mistake people make when trying to design something
completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete
fools." -- Douglas Adams
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 08:26:51 -0500
From: Christy Stillman <cstillma@u.......>
Subject: Re: Holding On
At 06:42 PM 9/11/2001 -0400, you wrote:
>I know how you feel, I'm about 20 miles away from Oak Ridge in Tennessee,
>the home for the Manhattan Project and quite a few nuclear reactors, then
>there's TVA which uses nuclear power as well as hydroelectricity. If they
>blew Oak Ridge, then we'd be a glowing bulls-eye for other kamikaze idiots!
Well, Pensacola is basically a Naval Air Base surrounded by Air Force and
Army bases. I guess the country is just full of potential targets, and we
can't get ourselves into a panic over what *could* happen. We just have to
deal with things one step at a time, take it one day at a time, and hold
onto one another in order to make it through.
Christy
cstillma@u.......
"A common mistake people make when trying to design something
completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete
fools." -- Douglas Adams
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 09:33:45 -0500
From: Tim Phillips <Timp@d.......>
Subject: Re: Holding On
> At 06:42 PM 9/11/2001 -0400, you wrote:
> >I know how you feel, I'm about 20 miles away from Oak Ridge in Tennessee,
> >the home for the Manhattan Project and quite a few nuclear reactors, then
> >there's TVA which uses nuclear power as well as hydroelectricity. If they
> >blew Oak Ridge, then we'd be a glowing bulls-eye for other kamikaze idiots!
Last I knew, US nuclear reactor containment buildings were
constructed to handle a deliberate impact by an airliner to prevent
just such a possibility.
Tim
Tim Phillips
timp@d.......
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 09:42:51 -0400
From: "Brooks, Julia A." <BROOKJU@m.......>
Subject: Worried For List Members
I am worried for Susan Honig whose husband is an NYC police officer, and
Julia Kocich and Marla Kaye who both live and work in Manhattan, and
Knightwitch who's husband works in the city also. I know there must be
other list members, but I am too frazzled right now to think. I hope that
they and all their friends and loved ones are OK. And I hope that they can
all check in with us as soon as it is possible.
I am on Long Island and therefore out of harms way - but the evidence that
something dreadful happened has touched even us. In addition to friends,
neighbors and families who are tied to the tragedy, there is also an eerie
silence in the skies since the airports are closed. Just a moment ago, we
were drawn outside because we could all hear several military jets flying
overhead. And yesterday, cell phone service was spotty, Internet access was
limited, and there were no commuter trains running bringing people back home
from Manhattan. Roads, bridges and tunnels are still closed inbound to
Manhattan, except for emergency personnel with photo IDs and driving in
marked cars.
The pictures of the horror and the devastation will stay with me for a long
time, but what I will not be able to shake are those images of those
passenger jets, filled with innocent human beings, being flown into occupied
office buildings filled with more innocents. And then watching those tall,
massive edifaces of glass, steel and concrete, simply crumbling to the
ground.
Go in peace,
Julia Brooks
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 09:47:04 -0400
From: Amanda Berendt <debrabant@h.......>
Subject: Re: Reporting in from Toronto
Hi-
Thank you to all those who have offered condolences. I live in NJ
about 45 min from Manhattan. I work in a hospital which is a
regional trauma center so we were watching this all very intently
yesterday. We got the notification that we were one of the possible
hosiptals that victims from NYC may be routed to. When I finally
got home from work I cried! I could see the plume of smoke and ash
from near my home. Several of the people I work with had loved ones
who worked in the towers. I personally have a cousin that may have
been in the Pentagon. We haven't heard anything about him as of
yet.
I go into Manhattan quite often and it will never be the same.
-Amanda, New Jersey
"Peace over anger. Honor over hate. Strength over fear."
http://www.geocities.com/towerkeep/tower.html
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 09:59:03 -0400
From: Lisa McDavid <mclisa@m.......>
Subject: Admin: let's stay out of politics
Please, let's not talk about the political aspect of the situation in New York
and Washington. When I said we were loosening topicality, the idea was to check
on the list and fan community and to comfort each other as best we could.
Political discussion, although so far very well meant, has too much flame
potential.
Thank you.
Love to all,
McLisa
listowner, Forkni-
mclisa@m.......
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 07:01:31 -0700
From: StormBorn <smolly4@q.......>
Subject: Inspiring quote/military bases
Amanda reported in and appended this inspiring quote:
"Peace over anger. Honor over hate. Strength over fear."
I am as horrified, disgusted and appalled by the events of yesterday as
anyone, I think. But I do not want a war out of this! I am encouraged by
the fact that most people on the lists I'm on and in the online forums I've
visited are urging calm and a reasoned, efficient approach to seeking out
and dealing with those responsible. I know our primal urge is to shriek,
"kill them!" but first we have to *find* them. I think it will be a major
step in our evolution if, instead of 'letting loose the hounds of war,' we
find those responsible and turn them over to be tried at The Hague. JMHO
and YMMV.
My head hurts. I'm sick to my stomach. I sure as shooting don't want to go
into school today and I don't think I'll get much accomplished.
To those living near military bases: AFAIK, the military is still on alert
today. A military base on full alert is most likely a very safe place to be
near, because along with watching out for themselves, they're watching out
for the surrounding community (even if they do refer to you sometimes as
'the perimeter' <weak grin>).
Molly/StormBorn
Cousin, Ravenette, Seducer, Dark Trinity, FKPagan
Abnormally fond of dead guys
smolly4@q....... or stormborn@l.......
http://stormborn.tripod.com/
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Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 00:07:53 +1000
From: Access1 <taliesyn@c.......>
Subject: Re: Admin: let's stay out of politics
I quite agree especially as we, or no one knows who's responsible yet
let us all just pray and thank who ever for our loved ones who were
not caught up in this tragedy, this list isn't the forum for that
type of discussion, thank you Lisa for being tolerant of us
way ward e-mailers in this time of grief.
Alexander J Braun - Taliesyn@c....... - ICQ # 12610993
"You know, I used to think it was awful that life was so unfair. Then I
thought, wouldn't it be much worse if life were fair, and all the
terrible things that happen to us come because we actually deserve them?
So, now I take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of
the universe". Marcus, B5
> From: Lisa McDavid <mclisa@m.......>
> Reply-To: Forever Knight TV show <FORKNI-L@l.......>
> Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 09:59:03 -0400
> To: FORKNI-L@l.......
> Subject: Admin: let's stay out of politics
>
> Please, let's not talk about the political aspect of the situation in New York
> and Washington. When I said we were loosening topicality, the idea was to
> check on the list and fan community and to comfort each other as best we
> could. Political discussion, although so far very well meant, has too much
> flame potential.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Love to all,
>
> McLisa
> listowner, Forkni-
> mclisa@m.......
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 10:11:21 -0400
From: Portia Eins <portia1@m.......>
Subject: Re: Admin: let's stay out of politics
McLisa, levelheaded as always. Thanks for looking out for us!
Portia
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 10:14:57 -0400
From: "Anita K. Blake" <AKBlake@l.......>
Subject: Re: Holding On
True, they're defended against, say, a bomb dropping on them, but the
happenings from yesterday were anything but a straight drop. They came in
from the side in level flight, and they're not protected from that (though I
bet they'll be working on it!)
Anita
"These days my life is a cross between a preternatural soap opera and
an action-adventure movie. Sort of As the Casket Turns meets Rambo"
Anita Blake- The Killing Dance by Laurell K. Hamilton
Owner of the X-Men Fanfic archive,
Co-owner of the Unofficial Hugh Jackman Fan Club (the UHJFC)
and the new FKFanfic2 archive,
and member #13 of the Lisa Ryder FC!
AKBlake@l....... ~ http://x-menfanfic.50megs.com ~
http://uhjfc.50megs.com ~ http://fkfanfic2.50megs.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Forever Knight TV show [mailto:FORKNI-L@l.......]On Behalf Of
Tim Phillips
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:34 AM
To: FORKNI-L@l.......
Subject: Re: Holding On
> At 06:42 PM 9/11/2001 -0400, you wrote:
> >I know how you feel, I'm about 20 miles away from Oak Ridge in Tennessee,
> >the home for the Manhattan Project and quite a few nuclear reactors, then
> >there's TVA which uses nuclear power as well as hydroelectricity. If they
> >blew Oak Ridge, then we'd be a glowing bulls-eye for other kamikaze idiots!
Last I knew, US nuclear reactor containment buildings were
constructed to handle a deliberate impact by an airliner to prevent
just such a possibility.
Tim
Tim Phillips
timp@d.......
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 10:18:24 EDT
From: Libratsie@a.......
Subject: Gotta hand it to FK fans...!
I work for state government and wanted to say that I was touched by the number
of e-mails and even phone calls I got yesterday checking to see if we were open
and I was okay.
Yes, we're fine in Arkansas. My specific section is extremely busy, and part of
my job is to keep track of the news in events like this so I brought a tv in
today (the 5-inch b&w one just didn't work with five or more people gathered
around yet yesterday).
As for the prayer list FKFANSHUG. I'm truly blown away. We've more than doubled
our membership in the past 18 or so hours.
I'm very thankful to hear from all my friends around the world that they are
safe. I hope and pray we keep on that trend.
Libs (gotta get back to work!)
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 07:15:22 -0700
From: StormBorn <smolly4@q.......>
Subject: Re: Admin: let's stay out of politics
You're right, as always, McL. I'm sorry if I've offended anyone.
Molly
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 10:25:03 -0400
From: "Anita K. Blake" <AKBlake@l.......>
Subject: Wow!
Quoted from CNNfn:
<<Reacting to fears of a shortage of funds in markets, the European Central Bank
swiftly supplied cash to the markets to help restore confidence and stave off
the risk of a global recession in the wake of the attacks on New York's World
Trade Center and the Pentagon.
The attacks struck the heart of New York's financial district and dealers said
the incidents would certainly weaken the U.S. economy, and by extension the
global economy, which central banks could counter with rate cuts.
The ECB said it will instantly lend $63 billion (70 billion) to the markets and
the Bank of Japan said it supply almost $17 billion.>>
Isn't that great? We're all pulling together as parts, single people into the
whole, and then the other countries are getting involved too :)
Anita
AKBlake@l....... ~ http://x-menfanfic.50megs.com ~
http://uhjfc.50megs.com ~ http://fkfanfic2.50megs.com
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 10:28:00 EDT
From: NJG52@a.......
Subject: Tragedy
I live in Berkeley, CA. I currently work for a firm that does fundraising
non-profits via the phone. WNET (the New York PBS station) is one of our
clients. Our office was closed yesterday and will be today and I doubt we
will be calling for this client for some time to come. I cannot help but
wonder how many of the people I've talked with over the years (as a
fundraiser and now a verifier) are dead, injured or have lost loved ones.
(Also, my housemate was to be back from Europe yesterday, but is stuck in
Great Britain for the foreseeable future.)
I've read a lot of history. Humans do terrible things to one another, and
frequently the most horrible acts are done in the name of some deity or
other.
LaCroix would definitely go after the terrorists. Even he has his standards.
Nancy Giese
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 07:45:36 -0700
From: StormBorn <smolly4@q.......>
Subject: Re: Wow!
Anita wrote about the world response, and I just want to add something.
I am so touched and heartened and yes, close to weeping, at the amount of
international support shown by members of the various lists I'm on. On
SmallStuff, a miniatures list with nearly 3000 members, messages of support
came in from the UK, the Netherlands, France, Italy, Canada, Spain, Brazil,
and South Africa--just to name what I can remember. On the KEB (Kai
Estrogen Brigade--and Testosterone Annex), one listmember in Scotland is
tracking down individual listmembers who haven't reported in and forwarding
their responses to the list for our comfort and reassurance, while offering
up his own sympathy and virtual hugs.
Off to school. Everybody take care of yourselves, now.
Molly/StormBorn
Cousin, Ravenette, Seducer, Dark Trinity, FKPagan
Abnormally fond of dead guys
smolly4@q....... or stormborn@l.......
http://stormborn.tripod.com/
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 11:17:08 -0400
From: "Anita K. Blake" <AKBlake@l.......>
Subject: Pics/jpeg's
If anyone wants to make small pics (about the size of a browser button) the
FKFanFic2 will put them up on a special Memorial page. Will put up almost
anything that is appropriate, stories, rl vignettes, whatever.
Anita
AKBlake@l....... ~ http://x-menfanfic.50megs.com ~
http://uhjfc.50megs.com ~ http://fkfanfic2.50megs.com
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 09:21:05 -0600
From: Angela Gottfred <agottfre@t.......>
Subject: Re: Giving blood
This time last year, someone I loved receive multiple units of blood. I
couldn't donate because I was recovering from the flu, and being unable to
give was quite devastating to me. If you're a similar situation now,
remember that there are other ways to help, such as giving money to the Red
Cross. To make a donation by phone using your credit card, please call the
Canadian Red Cross office in your area, or call toll free 1-800-418-1111.
(The American Red Cross website, www.redcross.org, is unavailable right
now. Check your local phone book.)
Remember to ask yourself the question, "Would I want my blood to go to
somebody I love?" If the answer is no, because you're feeling unwell, wait
until you're better; the need for blood will still be there, a week or a
month from now, to replace the blood that will be used in the days to come.
The last thing a trauma victim needs is bad blood, no matter how good the
donor's intention.
Sincerely,
Angela Gottfred
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 12:25:24 -0400
From: Gwenn Musicante <gwennm@h.......>
Subject: Re: OT? - I Feel Sick
I also don't think we can turn a blind eye to the policies of our government
which have caused so many people to hate Americans so much. Check out this
URL:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_1538000/1538861.stm
and scroll down the page to the second picture.
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I just spent the greater part of yesterday trying to be in touch with my 17
year old son who I just dropped off in New York City to attend college. We
were lucky, after a day that I would not wish on anyone, we were able to
make contact with him. Some of his friend's parents were not so lucky, and
are still waiting to hear from their children. Are you saying by having us
look at this picture that because America may sell weapons to Israel that
this act was justified? They hate us, this does not give them any right to
do what they did, and nothing will ever justify this loss of life. By
saying that we should not turn a blind eye you are blaming the victim which
in this case happens to be us. We are victims here, innocent victims, do
not excuse or try to understand our oppressors. If you still feel the need
to look at pictures of the terrorists and their people, look at the ones of
them dancing in the streets and celebrating as our people lie dying in
crumbling, burning buildings.
Gwenn Musicante
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