FORKNI-L
FORKNI-L Digest - 11 Jun 2001 to 12 Jun 2001 (#2001-185)
Tue, 12 Jun 2001
There are 31 messages totalling 882 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. War: Admin: Everybody calm down and be pleasant (4)
2. WAR: Picking a faction (3)
3. War: Trying to be pleasant...
4. Overthrowing the Canadian Government (3)
5. cousins war list (2)
6. WAR: Can't we all fight this War together?
7. War - where are the FODs?
8. Come on now, let's ease up on our WarMistress! (3)
9. (OT) Test Again
10. FK Knight Shirts
11. WAR: Website?
12. WAR: Diehards?
13. WAR: War XI website
14. WAR: About those Questions
15. Faction Origins [WAS; Re: WAR: Brief History]
16. Hollywood Ten
17. WAR: Re: Come on now, let's ease up on our WarMistress!
18. Admin: War topic reminder
19. War: It's a tough job but thank goodness someone does it!
20. WAR: WM on AOL Instant Message
21. KtK auction update - Tuesday
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Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 18:58:11 -0500
From: mclisa <mclisa@m.......>
Subject: War: Admin: Everybody calm down and be pleasant
I'm worried about the tone I'm hearing on list. Guys, if things are going to
be unpleasant when we're merely discussing things prior to the war, I have
to worry if there should be a war. Everybody calm down and be nice on
Forkni-l, or I may have no option but to call off the war as far as the PSU
lists are concerned.
So, now, deep breath and start talking to each other as you would want to be
talked to yourself.
McLisa (Lisa McDavid)
"That will be trouble".
Listowner, Forkni-l and Fkfic-l
mclisa@m.......
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Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 20:24:14 -0000
From: Barbara Vainio <bevainio@w.......>
Subject: Re: War: Admin: Everybody calm down and be pleasant
McLisa,
thanks for the reminder that we're normally civil with each other.
I do worry though that the tone is escalating because people don't feel
they're being listened to and that their opinions aren't considered
important. I know that a war is not really a democracy and that the WM has
to have the final say or there really will be chaos. However, I sent what I
thought was a very polite question about the reasons for the requirement
that only factions that have previously played in a war can participate in
this one and whether there might be an alternative (having war-experienced
leaders of inexperienced factions) if the premise doesn't require only
experienced factions. I haven't gotten an answer. This makes me one of
those people who wonder if my concerns are of any importance.
I know I'm already sort of hoping that the faction I'm planning on playing
with is barred because no one can prove we've played before. Obviously, I
can just opt out even if we can play, but I really don't want to do that. I
enjoy wars and was looking forward to participating.
Sorry to dump this on you, but I'm just trying to find some way to be sure
the WM understands how some people may feel about all of this without
risking sending her what might be considered a flame.
Whiningly yours,
Barb
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Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:51:13 -0700
From: Bonnie Kate <callalily@l.......>
Subject: Re: WAR: Picking a faction
At 05:00 PM 6/11/01 -0400, Emma <elighton@b.......> wrote:
>I have read all of wars 1-5, 8, 9, 10, and what I've found of war 7,
>most of the parts seemed to have no real relation to the initial
>premise.
As a participant of War #7, let me just say here that there was a premise -- to
fix the mess TPTB left us at the end of Last Knight. And that premise was
followed. If I recall correctly -- and it's been a good many years -- the
Vaqueros resurrected Vachon, the mercs dug up Screed, the Perkulators (before
Dark Pink was a fashionable color) spent the entire war searching for Tracy, a
multi-factional group came together to steal/save/revive/liberate Urs from
LaCroix's attempt to play mad scientist, the Natpackers got to Natalie just in
time to rush her to the hospital, the Knighties convinced Nick it wasn't all his
fault, and I forget what the Cousins did, but I'm sure it was something
cunningly evil having to do with cow costumes.
So, when all was said and done -- and, yes, that took us two whole weeks! -- the
premise was followed and satisfied. In the end, there was a big party with lots
of soap suds from washing Nick's caddie and everyone had a great time!
>And since I was under the impression that all WM were first timers,
>aren't they all inexperienced?
I think what she meant by first-timer was a war mistress who had never played an
FK war before. Reading the wars are one thing, playing is something you can
only experience! I can see what an huge responsibility it could be, and I don't
envy any WM the job!
>Try forbidding these kinds of thing in a war, you run the risk of
>turning a lot people off to the war. I sincerely hope you aren't
>aiming for that deliberately.
I don't think the WM is not forbidding "these kinds of things." She's only
saying, just keep in mind why we're all virtually heading to Toronto. There's
gonna be a premise, a story to get us going, a reason to pack our virtual
suitcases, hop that virtual plane, and have a big slumber party on Nick's floor,
or Vachon's floor, or where ever.
Whatever the premise is, I'm sure there will be lots of room in which to write
all kinds of posts. Actually, it seems to me, that the premises in the past
which appeared most restricting brought out the best in our creativity.
Without knowing the premise, it's difficult to know if you can work with it, but
I think it's worth waiting for, mulling over, seeing what happens. There are
dozens and dozens of people participating and I'm sure, as always, there will be
brilliant posts and memorable moments, gut-splittingly funny scenes, and, if
you're lucky, you'll make some new friends! That's been my experience as a
verteran of three of the past four wars.
>Maybe I'm reading you wrong, but I feel you are coming off as if you
>basically have a story idea that you expect a bunch of other FKfans
>to write for you, without straying one iota outside where you think
>the plot should go. This definitely *NOT* what a war should be.
You are over simplifying what the WM is saying. While the war resembles a round
robin, it also resembles a big bus full of people all talking at once.
Say, for example, the WM is the bus driver and she told us to talk about the
summer peach harvest in Georgia. Well, there are just about a billion things
which can be said about the summer peach harvest in Georgia while still
remaining on topic and with everyone talking at once, you can bet that all
billion of those topics will be covered -- some seriously, some humorously, some
by throwing said Georgia peaches from that summer harvest at some other folks
who were talking about LaCroix's peach speech from "Last Knight."
Believe me, if the WAR MISTRESS wanted a specific story with a fixed plotline
written by someone else, she wouldn't hire a hundred random people with widely
different viewpoints and character leanings to accomplish the project. Now, if
she wanted an anthology of related stories based on a specific premise, written
by collaborating groups, well, heck, that we can do!
>>Before making judgement, read the other posts that have come and gone.
>
>I have read the other posts.
>So far nothing you or anyone else has said has shaken my initial
>impression that you are viewing this as one big fanfic under your
>control.
The WM is here to help us, guide us, keep us from over-throwing the Canandian
government during our virtual visit to TO (hey, that's not a bad idea, er, sorry
... I digress). If you've read the past wars, you can see how varied the posts
are, how creative the writers can be. The premise is the starting point, point
A, and it's telling us we need to get to some point B. It's not telling us how
to get there. But, if we oughta be heading north and we're heading south, then
the war mistress is gonna let us know before we hit the Panama Canal.
>As for being comfortable with the premise and the rules; since you
>haven't yet posted the premise, no one can form an opinion of it; and
>since the only rule I've really noticed is all posts most connect to
>the premise, it makes it rather hard for me to feel comfortable with
>that rule.
You'll have to wait on the premise, like the rest of us. But, the rules are
pretty simple: read the premise and keep it in mind when writing posts, attacks
are the sincerest form of flattery, in the end everything FK must go back to the
way it was at the beginning so don't give Vachon a crew cut on the very last
day. ;-) Oh, and, most important, remember it's not really war -- you're
supposed to have fun.
And it is fun. Whether you love the premise or hate the premise, that's beside
the point. If you're clever and/or willing, you can work with it. Just keep an
open mind. Hope for the best, join a faction with folks you like, and have good
time!
Bonnie Kate
<callalily@l.......>
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Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:56:52 -0700
From: Della Morse <multiplepov@y.......>
Subject: War: Trying to be pleasant...
Two questions that I don't *think* have been
specifically answered--
1. Is there a War 11 website (couldn't find one doing
an Internet search? If not, will there be?
2. A Diehard-Indie Yahoo list has been set up
(although someone pointed out that those are two
different definitions of FK fans, they do seem to have
attitudes in common). Is such a group going to be
allowed to play?
Barb's post on the fact that having questions and
needing answers is not synonymous with wanting to be
unpleasantness struck a chord with me.
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Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 20:59:19 -0000
From: Barbara Vainio <bevainio@w.......>
Subject: Re: War: Admin: Everybody calm down and be pleasant
OOPS. Obviously this was supposed to go privately. However, since I
managed to not change the address and the message wound up here, I want to
be sure that No one especially Gwyneth thinks this was meant to be in any
way a flame. I'm obviously concerned about some of the rules that were
stated and would like more of an explanation for them.
However, I also support The WM's right to set the rules and enforce them.
If they mean that I can't play that's what will happen.
I apologize for sending a message that may have inadvertently offended
Gwyneth or any of her war staff.
Gwyneth, I want to apologize to you specifically. I truly don't want you or
anyone else to think that I don't respect your rules or your ability to set
up an run a war that everyone will enjoy. I hope you will accept my
comments in the way they were meant - as a very poor attempt to understand
and become more comfortable with the purpose of the rules.
Barb
(willing accept whatever punishment is deemed appropriate for a very stupid
mistake)
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Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 20:16:06 -0500
From: Eve Dutton <umdutto3@c.......>
Subject: Overthrowing the Canadian Government
> The WM is here to help us, guide us, keep us from over-throwing the
> Canandian government during our virtual visit to TO (hey, that's not a bad
> idea, er, sorry ... I digress).
Please don't. As a government employee myself I can tell you that our
balance is not that great to begin with, and overthrowing us will just make
us dizzy. ;)
Eve.
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Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 22:35:12 EDT
From: Scott F <Skweety2000@a.......>
Subject: cousins war list
I think this was posted once but and I told myself to remember it then
promptly forgot. Where is the cousins war list at and how do you join?
Thanx,
Cousin Scott F. DoD OotMR
"Into the woods you have to grope, but that's the way you learn to cope.
Into the woods to find there's hope of getting through the journey."
Into the woods, Sondheim
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Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:36:01 -0700
From: Sunny LaCountess <countessa2000@y.......>
Subject: Re: Overthrowing the Canadian Government
--- Eve Dutton <umdutto3@c.......> wrote:
> > The WM is here to help us, guide us, keep us from over-throwing the
> > Canandian government >during our virtual visit to TO (hey, that's not a bad
> > idea, er, sorry ... I digress).
>
> Please don't.
I second Eve on that one. I'm soon to become a Canadian citizen and if you
over-throw our government I have to start all over again and believe me,
filling out that dang application form and writing the test is harder than
10 FK wars bundled together.
Sunny :)
=====
Countess -- Twilight Knightie, Immortal Beloved, Dark Trinity, with UF and
Enforcement tendencies
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Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 22:36:51 EDT
From: Julia Kocich <JKocich@a.......>
Subject: WAR: Can't we all fight this War together?
It's been two years since we had an FK War. Let's give the
Warmistress a chance before an air of nonspecific acrimony
takes hold.
<Hey! Don't look at me like that ... I was good for ... um ... at
least a couple of days into War X.... >
I guess I'm coming at this from the point of view that an FK War
is a voluntary exercise in *communal* short-term insanity. When
the War Premise is overlooked, the result is, IMO, a lot of <euphemism
alert> self-gratification, which is the very opposite of a communal
undertaking.
So why not take it easy, hear what the Warmistress proposes, and
then decide what each of us wants to do? Personally, I'm eager to
have a Premise that is workable and gives us all a chance to play
into it.
Best,
Julia
UF list cobra
mostly harmless
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Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:41:36 -0000
From: StormBorn <smolly4@q.......>
Subject: Re: War: Admin: Everybody calm down and be pleasant
I'm so concerned about this that I don't know whether to war or not! On the
pro side, I have a great faction to War with, and a small one, so that I can
actually participate and be helpful. On the con side, I have to say, trying
very hard to be polite, that Gwyneth's posts have been...well, a little
off-putting.
What I would like cleared up is:
1) Is the WM proposing a 'plot' or a 'premise'? Earlier, it sounded like
she was proposing a plot and that we must all stick closely to it. IMO, the
premise should be broad enough that we can all be ourselves and have fun,
and it should not pit one group of factions against another.
2) Why is it necessary for Independents to play as Die-Hards? They may not
be comfortable within a faction they may not already have a rapport with.
3) I've received an email from a newbie friend who isn't sure that she
wants to play now, given the rancorous tone of discussion on this list, and
frankly, I don't know what to tell her...is this the type of War we should
expect? If so, I have a lot of projects already backed up that and if I
can't anticipate a cheerier atmosphere, I'd rather work on those.
I think Barb said it very well: >>I do worry though that the tone is
escalating because people don't feel they're being listened to and that
their opinions aren't considered important.<<
That's how I feel. I'm trying to be as diplomatic as possible, but I am
concerned.
Molly/StormBorn
Cousin, Ravenette, Seducer, Dark Trinity, FKPagan
KEBScoutLeader, Kai Estrogen Brigade
Abnormally fond of dead guys
smolly4@q....... or stormborn@l.......
http://stormborn.tripod.com/
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Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 23:43:22 EDT
From: Libratsie@a.......
Subject: Re: WAR: Picking a faction
In a message dated 6/11/01 7:52:22 PM Central Daylight Time,
callalily@l....... writes:
> And it is fun. Whether you love the premise or hate the premise, that's
> beside the point. If you're clever and/or willing, you can work with it.
> Just keep an open mind. Hope for the best, join a faction with folks you
> like, and have good time!
>
BOnnie Kate had some good words for us. I've yet to see a War where there
wasn't a big uproar to begin with. Some people always drop out, but most play
and have a fantastic time. There's no way to please everyone with a premise
OR the rules. Ain't no way, no how.
Do like the Ratpack does. We just shrug, say "H'okay, we'll jest bring 'long
the wee lil' ratsies n' play n' 'af the fun wedder none o' them udder droogs
dew or na. They kin bicker, we'll jest do h'our thingees wit'h'in the rulez."
Libs
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Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 23:24:43 -0400
From: g4akl@c.......
Subject: Re: cousins war list
At 10:35 PM 6/11/01 EDT, Scott wrote:
> I think this was posted once but and I told myself to remember it then
>promptly forgot. Where is the cousins war list at and how do you join?
>
I answered this.
Arletta
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Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 20:25:23 -0700
From: L McCann <twocat_mccann@y.......>
Subject: War - where are the FODs?
Sorry if this has already been asked (we need an easy
digest) - new email address, and a long time of not
reading forkni!
Anyway, are the FODs playing this war, and who do I
send my "Pick me, pick me!" slip to?
-Leah
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Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 00:03:03 -0400
From: Will Steeves <goid@i.......>
Subject: Come on now, let's ease up on our WarMistress!
Gang;
I'm not the ListMommy or ListDaddy or ListGardner or anyone of any official
capacity on the list, but I _have_ been around for a while (1994 - it feels
like forever :-) ), and believe me, from some of the complaining I've seen
about the WarMistress, let's all try to realise that she has a VERY
demanding job (it doesn't even pay a salary, geez!), and she's genuinely
trying to do well by everyone. I don't know her personally, but I get the
feeling from what I've seen that she's doing her very best.
The next time any listmembers want to suggest she's not a good WarMistress
(not that anyone's said that specifically, but...), they should consider
whether they could actually do the job themselves; that should change their
perspective considerably!
She's only started her job, so let's give her some time to prove herself.
Let's not judge her _too_ harshly, especially considering that there is
_one_ past WarMistress who in my estimation was the absolute worst ever,
i.e., she was both a faction leader AND the WarMistress (not that anything
is necessarily wrong with that in itself, but...), and on several occasions
during this particular unnamed War, disqualified several of my posts after
writing to me AS A FACTION LEADER saying that (paraphrased) "I'm going to
dispute your posts to the WarMistress", conveniently not bothering to
mention that such a "dispute" would be a fait accompli because she was
disputing them TO HERSELF! I think that it must have been some sort of bad
blood because I dared to make some friendly fun of the fact that her
faction's opening post in the War, claimed that the War had begun in
"Toronto, Quebec" (as most of us know, it's in _Ontario_, not Quebec; as
such, my posts in response attempted to link her faction with a fictional,
Quebec separatist militia group that rather delusionally claimed that the
rest of Canada belonged to Quebec! It was just a joke, geez!!!).
So...after considering _this_, believe me, I'm almost absolutely sure that
this WarMistress will be MUCH better than THAT one! Come on, let's ease up
on her and let her do her job.
Incidentally ... I've often entertained the notion of asking/trying to
become the first non-WarMISTRESS (as far as I know, they've all been
women?), but then I've realised just how much work is really involved! For
someone who's renowned (more like notorious!!) for responding to mail at
"The Speed of Will" (hint to anyone who doesn't know what this means: if
there were such a thing as the mathematical inverse of the Speed of Light,
that's people talking about poor old me responding to mail! :-) ), there's
no way that I'd ever be able to handle it. And with a baby on the way, I'm
just going to have to wait another 15-20 years before putting my name in the
hat. Will for WarMaster of War 31 in 2021 anyone??? :-)
W.
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Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 23:55:18 -0500
From: Lisa Luksus <tokaara@m.......>
Subject: Re: WAR: Picking a faction
At 10:43 PM 6/11/01, Libratsie@a....... typed these words:
>BOnnie Kate had some good words for us. I've yet to see a War where there
>wasn't a big uproar to begin with. Some people always drop out, but most play
>and have a fantastic time. There's no way to please everyone with a premise
>OR the rules. Ain't no way, no how.
Libs is right. I've played in War 2 and all Wars since #5; I've been one
of the heads of Cerberus (i.e., Cousins co-leader) since War 7. It's a War
tradition for there to be lots of grumbling about premises and conditions
of play. In War 8, there was a lot of worry about AU characters and
non-traditional control of characters, but it turned out to be one hell of
an entertaining ride. Let's give it a chance, folks -- see how things
develop. You could be pleasantly surprised.
Cousin Tok
and the Cousinly kitties
tokaara@m....... / AIM Tokaara / ICQ 46441308
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Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 01:27:07 EDT
From: Stan Williams <Ipecac69@a.......>
Subject: (OT) Test Again
Again, pardon my pointlessness. I am just trying to clear up some email
issues.
Stan
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Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 03:17:25 EDT
From: KnghtWtch@a.......
Subject: Re: FK Knight Shirts
Gooodd Evveeening All!
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Also give me some idea as to what design you would like on them from the
designs already posted on my web site.
We do what ever we can to keep the Knight Alive.
KnightWitch ;-]]]]]]=
CaddyWhacker {first and foremost}, Die Hard, Ravenette with Enforcement
tendencies.
A Unique line of Forever Knight apparel is now available at:
http://hometown.aol.com/knghtwtch/index.html .....and.....
http://home.clear.net.nz/knightraven/pages.html
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Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 00:51:16 -0700
From: Della Morse <multiplepov@y.......>
Subject: WAR: Website?
War 11 website?
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Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 00:52:31 -0700
From: Della Morse <multiplepov@y.......>
Subject: WAR: Diehards?
Diehards and/or Independents playing?
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Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:39:36 -0000
From: Susan Mutton <susan_mutton@h.......>
Subject: Re: Overthrowing the Canadian Government
I have a solution come here and overthrow the British Government please. I
think many of us would pay your fares at the moment. Sue.
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Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 05:53:08 EDT
From: Gwyneth Meirionfa <FKWarmistress@a.......>
Subject: WAR: War XI website
The war XI website is not yet up and running.
Gwyneth Meirionfa
War XI Warmistress
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Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 06:04:56 EDT
From: Gwyneth Meirionfa <FKWarmistress@a.......>
Subject: WAR: About those Questions
There is a leader's loop that has been having a discussion on many war
related issues, including some of those raised on list. Certain questions
have not been answered on the list yet because the leader's discussion is
still ongoing, and believe me, the discussion has been very wide ranging. The
discussion is likely to go on for another week. If you'd like more info on
what has been discussed by the leaders so far, please contact your faction
leader.
Gwyneth Meirionfa
War XI Warmistress
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Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 03:12:56 -0700
From: "RavenetteX." <sapphicstone@y.......>
Subject: Faction Origins [WAS; Re: WAR: Brief History]
--- Susan Mutton <susan_mutton@h.......> wrote:
: I know your letter was information for the war but
: as a UKer who came the Forever Knight say 18mths
: after you it was very interesting to see how the
: groups came about. Sue.
I'm a UKer too & I liked seeing the information about
how the factions started -- I always wondered who came
up with them / who got this started! Having the
history is fun -- Now if I can just get through all
the past WAR posts to find out about /that/ history
...
*g*
-Kaiya.
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Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 06:54:26 -0400
From: Amanda Berendt <debrabant@h.......>
Subject: Hollywood Ten
When I woke up this morning, I turned on the TV and STARZ happened to be on.
There was a commercial for "Hollywood Ten" I think I saw Ger in the
background, but it mainly focused on Jeff Goldblum.
Can't wait to see it!
-Amanda
"Peace over anger. Honor over hate. Strength over fear."
http://members.nbci.com/jekyllhj7/FK.html
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Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 04:18:45 -0700
From: Kyer <kyer@p.......>
Subject: Re: Come on now, let's ease up on our WarMistress!
I agree with Will!
Everyone should chill
Or take a pill!
Lest we lose the thrill
That Wars instill!
I am confident this War will be just as fun as any other once it gets
started. My only reservation (but a deep one) is on the requirement of real
names being made availabe in places that any lunatic [cue the music] (like
Johnsie and the Ratsie Pack! <g>) can see. (That's a joke, John. ; P)
A 'secured' password is better (is anything every *truly* secure?) than
nothing. I still, however, don't really understand the need at all. Any
offending posts should simply be pulled and publicly retracted asap. It's a
darn *game* not a career contract. Personally, I'd think everyone would be
too ashamed to do something pettty on purpose. At least, I'd hope we were
all that mature. FK is a thoughtful show. Shouldn't we, its loyal fan
base, be as well?
Kyer, kyer@p.......
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Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 04:30:46 -0700
From: Kyer <kyer@p.......>
Subject: Re: Come on now, let's ease up on our WarMistress!
Oops.
That should have had a War: heading? Or is that only for the War stories
themselves?
: ?
Kyer, kyer@p.......
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Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 07:35:41 EDT
From: Libratsie@a.......
Subject: WAR: Re: Come on now, let's ease up on our WarMistress!
In a message dated 6/12/01 6:33:37 AM Central Daylight Time, kyer@p.......
writes:
> That should have had a War: heading? Or is that only for the War stories
> themselves?
YES! *all* war postings are suppose to have a War: heading. Please, folks,
let's follow that rule before McLisa gets all mean n' stuff ;-)
Libs
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Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 07:02:36 -0700
From: Lisa McDavid <cecily1349@y.......>
Subject: Admin: War topic reminder
Just a reminder -- if your post is about the upcoming war, you
must begin your subject line with the word war and a colon.
Like this: war:
The colon _has_ to be there. It's what makes the word a topic.
Otherwise the post will go to everyone, not just those who want
to hear about the war.
It doesn't matter whether the word war is capitalized or not.
But you MUST use the colon.
Thanks.
McLisa
listowner, Forkni-l
mclisa@m.......
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Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:56:37 -0400
From: br1035@i.......
Subject: War: It's a tough job but thank goodness someone does it!
Yesterday was my 30th birthday. My first thought reading
mail this morning was 'Well, I may be 30, but at least I'm not
WarMistress.' :D
Like The Other Bonnie said, being WarMistress is a huge job.
Catching up on posts from the past week or so, I'm
extra thankful right now that I don't have the responsibility.
Being WM is also a very thankless job, because, as with many things,
there's no way she can satisfy everyone. The war
is played by individuals (Yes, this is a good thing), and
sometimes the individuals are going to express conflicting
views on what the war guidelines should be. It's just not
going to be humanly possible for the WM to answer every concern
in a way that's going to please every player.
I'm very glad that's she's doing it, though. The WM has opened
herself up to criticism and taken on the burden of seeing this
job through with McLisa and Don's help so that we can have
another War. Compared to the way I would respond in a similar
situation, she's been enormously fairminded in her feedback.
I'm impressed, and I appreciate even more that she has the job.
On top of that, I'm excited. It's been a long time since
we've played a war, and I know I'm going to enjoy whatever
part I play in it because I'm surrounded by my virtual friends.
<waves>
Bonnie Rutledge
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Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:03:17 EDT
From: Gwyneth Meirionfa <FKWarmistress@a.......>
Subject: WAR: WM on AOL Instant Message
FYI, I am on AOL Instant Messenger as FKWarmistress, if anyone wants to speak
to me directly.
Gwyneth Meirionfa
War XI Warmistress
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Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:51:51 EDT
From: Knightwave@a.......
Subject: KtK auction update - Tuesday
Where did you all go? Hope things improve, or I'm going to have to squeeze
another one of these auctions into my crazy schedule before summer's out.
(Jab at Susan... laugh)
If your bid didn't show up, most likely someone came in with a higher one.
If you see that isn't the case, Please let me know. I'll be sure to make the
change as soon as I'm made aware of it. <g>
There are plenty of scripts offered, all of them in hand this time. Several
new things, as well as another prop from the show are offered this time
too. Check out the KtK web page for links to the auction or go to <A
HREF="http://ktk.8m.com/auction-start.html">auction</A>
(( http://ktk.8m.com/auction-start.html )) for the auction page. Directions
for PayPal are there if you decide that is the way to go to obtain one of
these gems. <g>
Please let me know if you spot an error. Sometimes I get to typing too fast.
<g>
Tuesday, June 12, 2001 2:00pm
# 2 $ 15.00 Karen Only the Lonely script
# 3 $ 10.00 Karen Feeding the Beast script
# 4 $ 10.00 Karen Love You to Death script
# 5 $ 35.00 Vicky Last Knight script
new # 6 $ 15.00 LaCroix Father's Day script
# 7 $ 25.00 Vicky Blackwing script
new # 8 $ 15.00 LaCroix Son of Belial script
# 9 $ 25.00 Vicky Ribena package
#12 $100.00 NdB Raven matchbook prop
#13 $ 30.00 Gail Sweatshirt package
#14 $ 5.00 LaCroix T-shirt package
#15 $ 15.00 Stephanie Kapelos Autographed photo
#17 $ 15.00 Stephanie Button collection
#19 $ 5.00 Linda FK clutch purse
new #20 $ 15.00 LaCroix Movie 'The Skulls'
Check out our site and see if there's anything that might tempt you. We
appreciate your interest and help.
Enjoy,
April
knightwave@a.......
knightwave@j.......
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