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FORKNI-L Digest - 2 Feb 2001 (#2001-38)

Fri, 2 Feb 2001

There are 12 messages totalling 360 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. LK ending (2)
  2. Videos, maybe? (2)
  3. Delurking...Who would you be? (3)
  4. Schanke and the boy (2)
  5. Delurking ...
  6. Missed Digest
  7. Ger on Black Harbour


Date:    Fri, 2 Feb 2001 10:53:03 EST
From:    Marel Darby <Frostsaint2@a.......>
Subject: Re: LK ending

>  Nicholas wasn't Orpheus, looing back into the depths of death and so
> condemning his love to darkness, but a man (as I think he perceived it)
> looking into the light of eternity, and gathering all of his courage (this
> creature of night) to step into it with his beloved.

I like that, it's very nicely put.<g> All the same, what need had Nick to
rush into death? If he believed that Natalie was in a version of heaven, she
wasn't going anywhere. He could've stayed on earth for centuries longer
working for his hoped-for salvation, which might've bettered his odds of
spending an eventual afterlife with her -- after his 'natural' death which
would've taken place at some point, given his recklessness...

Marel ... who can't help her English prosaicness <g>


Date:    Fri, 2 Feb 2001 11:19:31 -0500
From:    sherryh@i.......
Subject: Re: Videos, maybe?

> As for the title FOREVER KNIGHT, I promise that I will take a look into this
> and speak with our acquisitions staff about this title. That said there may
> be a reason why it is not yet available on DVD.

...and that reason would be Columbia/Tristar.  I, for one, would love
to see a DVD release of FK by season, packaged much the same way as
the X-files and Buffy releases. However, a representative from C/T
stated last April during an online chat with members of the Home
Theater Forum that C/T was not currently releasing TV series to
DVD...they were waiting for the market for TV series to increase.

(excerpt from chat transcript of 4/25/00):
<cthv> TV is slow to develop in the format so far.  There are a lot of
TV shows out on DVD, but few are selling, so  we're going to let the market
demand increase before jumping into those waters.

Whether or not C/T has softened it's stance over the past year, I
don't know.   Considering that C/T never released FK to video, I don't
imagine it'll be top priority once they do release TV series to DVD.

On the subject of DVD releases and FK,  I recall hearing, sometime
last year, that the original Nick Knight movie was being prepared for
DVD release...does anyone know if this is still scheduled, delayed, or
was it just a rumor to begin with?

:) Boomer


Date:    Fri, 2 Feb 2001 11:50:24 EST
From:    Dolpfin220@a.......
Subject: Re: Videos, maybe?


In my latest email, Acorn Media were somewhat cautionary about getting too
hopeful, but are looking into it.  This was the comment:

"I would say that over ninety percent
of the titles we look at fail to meet some acquisitions criteria. That said
we are researching the title and may even attempt to get further,
information from whichever company owns the license. All too often this
process is a much protracted affair."

You never know, right?


The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that,
you've got it made. -Groucho Marx


Date:    Fri, 2 Feb 2001 13:10:52 -0500
From:    Bonnie Rutledge <br1035@i.......>
Subject: Re: Delurking...Who would you be?

Emily L. asked:
<snip> If you had a chance to actually _be_ one of the characters, who would
> you prefer to be, and who would you most likely end up being?<snip>

And since my life has been way too serious this week already, I'll jump
in on these questions, rather than the autopsy of Last Knight.

Who would I prefer to be...

The first name that popped into my head was 'Sidney' and the prospect of
a feast of cat naps. Then I remembered Natalie's feeding habits - sleeping
isn't so much fun on an empty stomach. Moving along...

My second thought was to be Vachon, maybe because he seems to symbolize a
struggle for freedom that's had more success than Nick's. He enjoys his
existence and fights for the underdog - what's not to like? Well, two things,
actually: I like men, but I wouldn't want to be one. Same thing goes for

Well, that pickiness narrows my choices down to mortal females. I don't want to
be Tracy or Natalie, Grace or Cohen, because I've already learned that I can't
handle facing the realism of death night in, night out, for more than a couple
Hence my backing out of vet school in favor of computers, because computers
don't have kidney failure, and when a computer dies, you don't have to digest
the stark faces left behind. You don't have to look for words to comfort them
when all they can do is stare at the empty leash in their hand or the vacant
carrier on the floor in disbelief. When a computer crashes, it doesn't break
your heart. Everyone just curses Bill Gates and moves on. No, morgue or police
work is not for me.

Who would I want to be? Lily in '1966.' She had strength of character
in escaping East Berlin with Nick and her family. Though living under harsh
conditions before that, she had access to a fantastic range of rare books. She
sought freedom and achieved it. She remains friends with Nick to modern times
and appears to live happily ever after with children of her own. I think that's
my dream - to have lived and loved over many years and to keep good friends
just as long.

Who would I probably wind up being?

Maybe Tracy, compulsive in some ways, trying to live outside of the shadow of
her father, driving a sensible car, needing coffee to start the day, and with a
couple unusual friends.

Probably even more likely I'd be Berniece Hornswoggle in 'If Looks Could Kill'
doing the chicken dance as though Father Time was shooting bullets at my heels,
shallow and desperate until I realize just how lucky my life has been come
autumn and learn to enjoy those cold evenings as winter arrives.

Okay, this week has definitely been too serious. I think I need to go watch
my 'Powerpuff Girls' tape now.


Bonnie Rutledge..........<br1035@i.......>..........Single and Fabulous!
   "He just looked so mischievous, I had to bring him home..." - Jules
  In Memory Of Watson Stafford...I am so glad I got to meet you, WooWoo


Date:    Fri, 2 Feb 2001 12:28:00 -0500
From:    "Laura C. Vandivier" <lmc@g.......>
Subject: Re: Schanke and the boy

Bonnie Rutledge wrote:
> I've known couples and individuals that refer to pets as 'the kid'
> or 'the kids,' even after they've added to their human brood.
>  Maybe Schanke and Myra's 'kids' are named Jennifer and Spot. :D

I like this explanation.  I have 3 dogs and 3 cats, and my husband and I
refer to them as "the kids".  When my 4 year old nephew is around, I
group him in with them and call them all "the kids".



Date:    Fri, 2 Feb 2001 13:17:11 EST
From:    Libratsie@a.......
Subject: Re: Delurking...Who would you be?

I've given some thought to this, examining several different characters
trying to push aside what I know happened to some of them<g>

In a way, I'm like Nick as I tend to get myself into situations I later
regret, though I've fortunately have stopped trying to blame myself for most
of the world's woes. I'd like to be LaCroix because he has seen so much of
history, good and bad. I can also be just as ... stubborn.  Janette is just
so sure of herself in ways I wish I was....

But when it comes down to it, the answer is rather obvious in my case -
Screed. He's just him, with no regrets that we saw.  I don't know that he's
totally happy as he did seem rather lonely at first, when he invited Nick to
tuck in for some bubble n' squeak. Being a carouche, he's treated with some
obvious disgust by even Nick. But you don't see him wishing he was mortal or
even a "higher form" of vampire. He is who he is.

Reese also really appeals to me. He's a family man who is loved and
respected. He's got a lot of common sense, and seems to have done well in



Date:    Fri, 2 Feb 2001 10:37:32 -0800
From:    "Kelly C. Smith" <tigrlady2u@j.......>
Subject: Re: Schanke and the boy

 First off... no gloating allowed, Shana!
 Second... I am SO glad that it is at least a *possibility* that the boy
was supposed to be Schanke's son.  I had an idea for a fanfic and wanted
Jenny to have a younger brother (not the baby boy in 'Pipe Dreams' I just
gave them).
 But I guess that is one of the cool things about fanfic.  We can
rearrange "actual" history, or just change it completely and we can
interpret LK any way we'd like and make the future whatever suits our
 If only RL were so accommodating!

KC Smith
Nick/Natpacker with Dark Knightie tendencies.
"I've never met a chocolate I didn't like."


Date:    Fri, 2 Feb 2001 11:43:11 -0700
From:    Rose Thatcher <dreamerextrodanar@h.......>
Subject: Re: Delurking...Who would you be?

>If you had a chance to actually _be_ one of the characters, who would
>you prefer to be, and who would you most likely end up being?

I'd probably be Natalie.  no social life except for a few close friends, and
no real chance of romance in the near future. :)


Date:    Fri, 2 Feb 2001 11:07:17 -0800
From:    Lisa McDavid <cecily1349@y.......>
Subject: Re: Delurking ...

I'd want to be Nat, since I'm convinced that at the
last moment Nick wasn't staked and Nat was taken to a
hospital, where it turned out that the cure had worked
on Nick after all.

Ok, ok, I'm a hopeless romantic. :) I wrote the very
first fanfic in which Nick is cured and married to
Nat, at least the first that appeared on this life.
(That was before Fkfic-l was created.)



Date:    Fri, 2 Feb 2001 14:55:44 -0500
From:    "Brooks, Julia A." <BROOKJU@m.......>
Subject: Missed Digest

I discovered that I did not get the Digest #2001-36.  With all this
interesting debate going on about Last Knight, I don't want to miss a single
post.  Can someone send this digest to me?

Julia B. (aka Brooksie) and Allie's Brook
forever Knightie crusader, Les Chevaliers de la Nuit
"And a screaming fine ride [he] is, too."
with Ginger (Woofpack) and Dusty (FoSiL)


Date:    Fri, 2 Feb 2001 16:31:58 EST
From:    KnightLaw1@a.......
Subject: Re: Ger on Black Harbour

Hi everyone,

Just wanted to say that in the US a lot of cable companies are starting to
carry TRIO - I know mine does.  Black Harbour is on Saturdays at 6.  Call
your company and ask if there are any plans to add it.  You never know...



Date:    Fri, 2 Feb 2001 16:47:24 -0500
From:    Portia 1 <portia1@m.......>
Subject: Re: LK ending

Forever Knight TV show <FORKNI-L@l.......> wrote:
> All the same, what need had Nick to rush into death? If he believed that
Natalie was in a version of heaven, she wasn't going anywhere. He could've
stayed on earth for centuries longer working for his hoped-for salvation, which
might've bettered his odds of spending an eventual afterlife with her<<

Unless he imagined that she would have to be waiting there for him alone (as in,
without him) which would negate his implied vow to be with her no matter what.
And I think the faith that he was leaping in to was that he *would* be with her
-- that, in effect, he was forgiven by the grace of their love.  (Which is
actually a much more sappy statement that you would ever hear me utter outside
of an intellectual excercise!!! "g")



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