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FORKNI-L Digest - 14 Dec 2000 to 15 Dec 2000 (#2000-381)

Fri, 15 Dec 2000

There are 18 messages totalling 434 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Lacroix (2)
  2. What is it that makes LaCroix so incredible to watch???
  3. Hollywood Reporter WOW!!!!!!!!
  4. Forever Knight, etc on Global 100
  5. Ribenba (9)
  6. curiouser and curiouser.
  7. another topic of discussion--vampires. (2)
  8. FK ad ordering info and eBay Warning

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Date:    Thu, 14 Dec 2000 17:09:54 EST
From:    DanaKnight@a.......
Subject: Re: Lacroix

In a message dated 12/14/00 5:01:00 PM, LISTSERV@l....... writes:

<<  The fact that he is such an enigma and
always unpredictable, I admire Nigel Bennet for playing him as well as he
does.....One minute you hate him (LaCroix, that is) and the next you admire him,
it's a great actor that can evoke such a range of emotion in an audience and
give such a complicated character such vitality and brilliance. >>

Nigel gave us a far more complex Lacroix than Michael Nader did. I didn't
care for Michael's version, but I do enjoy watching Nigel's version (even
when I hate what LC's doing).

Judy

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Date:    Thu, 14 Dec 2000 16:15:49 -0600
From:    Margie Hammet <treeleaf@i.......>
Subject: Re: What is it that makes LaCroix so incredible to watch???

At 12:34 AM 12/14/00 -0500, MadiHolmes@a....... wrote:
>One person he reminds me of is the Shade in the Starman comics.
>Both have this this delicious freedom from a strict set of morals that
>hinders Nicholas. They may not always do what people consider "Right," but do
>not care.

I don't know that I can express what I enjoy so much about LaCroix, but it
isn't freedom from a set of morals or a willingness to take whatever he
wants.  If it were that, I would enjoy every gangster in a gangster
movie.  I would enjoy every character who has wealth and power and is using
that power only for his own gain.

>Is the ultimate irony of Forever Knight is that it will not be remembered (if
>it be remembered at all) for its almost bordering cliche of 1990s brooding
>vampire , but for its amoral and enigmatic antagonist?

If it were remembered only for that, I think it would be a loss.  In Nick,
I see someone struggling to discover his own values.  I see someone
learning what it means to live by his own values.  I think his values are
very good ones,  and living by them isn't always easy.  He doesn't always
live up to his own ideals, and he doesn't have all the answers, but he
continues the struggle, nevertheless.

Bring 'em back alive!
Margie (treeleaf@i.......)
Cousin of the Knight ~ N&NPacker
CotK Site -- http://lavender.fortunecity.com/evildead/879/

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Date:    Thu, 14 Dec 2000 17:21:39 EST
From:    KnghtWtch@a.......
Subject: Re: Hollywood Reporter WOW!!!!!!!!

Hi Gang!!
I just got five copies of this week's Reporter with the new ad and it's
WOW!!!!!!
The ad is in the center of the book at the staple point.  If you just flip
open the mag, you can't help but go right to our ad.

Anyone that wants one please email me off list.  Price was $4.20 [more than
last year's] plus book rate postage about $1.30 or priority mail of $3.20.

My hubby work's in the Seagram's building and the newsstand in Manhattan next
to his building has 50 of them.

KnightWitch ;-]=

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Date:    Thu, 14 Dec 2000 17:38:14 +0000
From:    Kristin <kris1228@s.......>
Subject: Forever Knight, etc on Global 100

Hello everyone,

I just wanted to remind you about Forever Knight on Global 100. It climbed
to #6 this month. :) All you need to do is vote "one 5 point vote" every
month, preferably on "High" level. If you haven't done so this month please
go here to do so:

http://www.global100.com/item.asp?Item=51259

If you'd like to vote for Geraint Wyn Davies on Global 100 Actors, he
climbed to #12 this month. Go here:

http://www.global100.com/item.asp?Item=100306&Page=1

And if you'd like to vote for my site please go here:

http://www.global100.com/item.asp?Item=100818

(Note: websites can be voted on once a week, rather than once a month like
TV Shows, Actors, or Actresses)

If you're new to voting, instructions can be found on my "Save the Knight"
page.

Happy Voting!
Kristin
http://members.xoom.com/forever_nick/Forever_Knight

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Date:    Thu, 14 Dec 2000 16:40:06 -0700
From:    Kyer <kyer@p.......>
Subject: Re: Lacroix

Judy said:
> Nigel gave us a far more complex Lacroix than Michael Nader did. I didn't
> care for Michael's version, but I do enjoy watching Nigel's version (even
> when I hate what LC's doing).

At the risk of being clobbered by crew-cut haired Nunkites <g>, and adding
that I, too, preferred Nigel over Michael, I must give this in Michael's
defense:

We only had the chance to see Michael's portrayal  in one movie---as
dictated by the director and the producers.  Who knows what he would/could
have done with the character if he had been given the chance that Nigel had
gotten?

And as much as I love Ger's portrayal:  I liked Rick's too.
Heck---I would have loved to have seen what Robert Redford <sigh> would have
done with the role.

:)=
Kyer
A true, golden G(a)WD lover; but let's be fair to the other talent out
there.

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Date:    Thu, 14 Dec 2000 19:34:20 -0500
From:    Emily Lacey <laceye@a.......>
Subject: Re: Ribenba

OK. The bottle is $6.00 and until I actually send one, I won't know
about shipping...but nearly everyone on ebay using $3.20, so I'm
going with that. I've got one bottle going out shortly...I'll go pick
up some more tomorrow. Just send me the money, please and I'll send
you the bottle.

Emily Lacey
xxxxxxx
xxxxxxx


>I would be most interested in getting some as I have not been able to locate
>any in my area.  Please let me know how to go about it.  Thanks for your
>efforts.
>KnightWitch ;-]=

--
Emily Lacey
laceye@a.......

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Date:    Thu, 14 Dec 2000 20:03:35 -0500
From:    Emily Lacey <laceye@a.......>
Subject: Re: Ribenba

Sigh.

I promise...I'm going back to lurking. When I lurk I don't post to
the wrong list, or send private mail publicly.

Mea Culpa.

--
Emily Lacey
laceye@a.......

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Date:    Thu, 14 Dec 2000 20:12:31 -0500
From:    Luc D <lacroix@e.......>
Subject: Re: Ribenba

a bottle???.....hmm.....sounds good, but my imagination is flying right
now..what's everybody talking about a bottle??


Luc

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Date:    Thu, 14 Dec 2000 20:25:42 -0500
From:    Luc D <lacroix@e.......>
Subject: curiouser and curiouser.

Okay, I'm an idiot..I openly admit.

But can someone explain that episode to me? I got it that it's all a matter
of guilt..and Nick's  mind was getting twisted by it..but
metaphorically...what's the whole deal with Alice in Wonderland???
And who got an award for best screenplay or something like that for that
episode? and was the category? I heard something about that...never quite
figured it out.
Thanks..

Luc

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Date:    Thu, 14 Dec 2000 20:34:49 -0500
From:    Luc D <lacroix@e.......>
Subject: another topic of discussion--vampires.

I'm sure someone has brought it up at sometime...

but with all this vampire stuff...Forever Knight, Kindred:The Embraced,
Interview With the Vampire, the chronicles...you name it. Who over here
believes that they exist? After all there must be some sort of "belief"
desire to know these creatures who fascinates us into watching shows and
movies about them, spending endless nights reading about them even, or
just...wondering. But do they exist? did they ever? and why is that we need
to have them still?

Luc

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Date:    Fri, 15 Dec 2000 17:18:38 +1300
From:    Knightraven <knightraven@c.......>
Subject: Re: Ribenba

> a bottle???.....hmm.....sounds good, but my imagination is flying right
> now..what's everybody talking about a bottle??

Uncut Ribenna comes in a glass bottle.<g> Having not been party to this
conversaion...I can only guess that's what it is about.<g>
Btw....uncut Ribenna is like drinking maple syrup. No wonder Ger chucked his
guts.<eg>

Kylie.
knightraven@c.......
http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/knightraven
FK clothing available here!

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Date:    Fri, 15 Dec 2000 00:09:09 -0500
From:    Luc D <lacroix@e.......>
Subject: Re: Ribenba

*L* yeah she replied to me with the details....

eeeewww maple syrup. I heard that Tom Cruise got sick after drinking too
much of that for Interview With the Vampire..I can believe it, that stuff is
sweet..I just didn't know that it's actually black currant juice.

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Date:    Fri, 15 Dec 2000 00:15:56 -0500
From:    Bonnie Rutledge <br1035@i.......>
Subject: Re: Ribenba

Kylie wrote:
<snip> Uncut Ribenna comes in a glass bottle.<g> Having not been party to this
> conversaion...I can only guess that's what it is about.<g>
> Btw....uncut Ribenna is like drinking maple syrup. No wonder Ger chucked his
> guts.<eg><snip>

Amen. Everytime I have some, I offer up a silent apology to my dentist.
A trio of transplanted British ladies opened a food/jewelry store here
in Charlotte, NC earlier in the year. The first time I picked up a bottle
one of them asked me conversationally if I liked my Ribena hot or cold.
I promptly had a choking fit as the FK-appropriate thought '98.6 degrees'
popped into my head. She told me hot Ribena with a bit of lemon would do
wonders for my cough. <g>

<waves>

*************************************************************************
Bonnie Rutledge........<br1035@i.......>........Single and Fabulous!
"If you get porn for Christmas, does that mean you've been naughty or nice?"
"There's a dead squirrel in my closet." "Eeeehheeww! How'd it get inside?"
   "Well, it's not a vampire squirrel. It didn't need an invitation."

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Date:    Fri, 15 Dec 2000 00:35:07 -0500
From:    Portia 1 <portia1@m.......>
Subject: Re: another topic of discussion--vampires.

At 08:34 PM 12/14/00 -0500, Luc wrote:
 But do they exist? did they ever? and why is that we need
>to have them still?

Vampires are an archetypal image -- they symbolically represent an element
or aspect of human nature.  They fulfill a basic function, just as Santa
Claus does, just as the Marlboro Man does (and I speak here outside of the
context of cigarettes -- "the western cowboy").  Vampire mythos allow us to
identify, personify, explore, examine, maybe even exploit some of our
darker and baser drives or impulses, fears and fantasies.  They embody the
concepts of death, debauchery, self-indulgence, immortality, amorality,
sensuality, superiority, rape, seduction, selfishness, anarchy, temptation,
murder, sexuality, and on and on, depending on how they are portrayed.  Any
and all of these aspects can have a fascination for us to a greater or
lesser degree, depending on our own proclivities, personalities,
backgrounds.  By seperating these aspects into a character outside of
ourselves -- in fact, outside of the human race -- we can examine them,
indulge them, maybe (for those who do) admire them without embracing them
or exhibiting them in ourselves.  It is only when someone takes that
admiration/fascination with this vampiric archetype and tries to live it
out in themselves that they fully come under the censure of society.

Portia's late night 2 cents

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Date:    Fri, 15 Dec 2000 22:31:11 +1300
From:    Knightraven <knightraven@c.......>
Subject: Re: Ribenba

>Bons said:
> Amen. Everytime I have some, I offer up a silent apology to my dentist.

Just tell her it's packed full of vitamin C.<g>

I wonder when they first got onto using Ribenna as a blood substitute?

I have to say I love Ribenna. Was brought up on the stuff.<g> The idea of
course is to water it down to your own personal taste. To taste artificial
blackcurrent afterward is truly repulsive....not unlike drinking cow after a
little A positive.<eg>
I guess I should pack a crate of the stuff to bring with me when I cross the
ditch to come see ya's.<g>

Kylie.
knightraven@c.......
http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/knightraven

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Date:    Fri, 15 Dec 2000 11:08:12 -0500
From:    Portia 1 <portia1@m.......>
Subject: Re: Ribenba

Kylie wrote:
I guess I should pack a crate of the stuff to bring with me when I cross the
ditch to come see ya's.

Oooh!  When ya coming???

Portia

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Date:    Fri, 15 Dec 2000 13:36:10 EST
From:    Marel Darby <Frostsaint2@a.......>
Subject: Re: FK ad ordering info and eBay Warning

>  <snip>someone has a copy of the brand new KtK ad up for auction on eBay.
> <snip>the most recent bid when I looked was *$31.00*!!  Please, tell everyone
> you know who likes FK that THIS IS A RIP OFF! The price is only $5.50 per
> issue and that price *includes* shipping inside the U.S.  Outside the U.S.
> the price is $10.00.>>


Unfortunately, the paper doesn't want to be paid in cash, and, living in the
UK, my bank has quoted the equivalent of $25 inclusive charge for a $10
bankdraft...I may flip a coin to decide whether I let the bank or eBay rip me
off...

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Date:    Sat, 16 Dec 2000 10:54:49 +1300
From:    Knightraven <knightraven@c.......>
Subject: Re: Ribenba

> Oooh!  When ya coming???
> Portia

End of April I hope. Will be working in Canada and touring around both Can
and the US for about a year or so.

Ky.

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