FORKNI-L
FORKNI-L Digest - 19 Nov 2000 to 20 Nov 2000 - Special issue (#2000-356)
Mon, 20 Nov 2000
There are 32 messages totalling 1000 lines in this issue.
Topics in this special issue:
1. Twisted YKYBWTMFK...
2. how much blood do vampires need? (11)
3. The FTP site (5)
4. Re; The FTP site
5. LCA pics
6. LaCroix's Pin
7. how much blood do vampires need? Or want? (2)
8. On *now*: Nigel, etc. alert (3)
9. Update
10. Screed's dietary needs (WAS: Re: how much blood do vampires need?) (2)
11. Wanted: Alpha and Beta readers...
12. One last plea!
13. Admin: What that Yahoo autoresponse means
14. Admin: FORKNI-L Rules
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Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 16:10:52 -0600
From: Monica Thadine Rodriguez <mrodri14@u.......>
Subject: Re: Twisted YKYBWTMFK...
>From: Laudon1965@a.......
>
>When you hear a newstory about a man breaking into an elderly Phoenix
>couple's home wearing nothing but a thong and high heels, and you wonder if
>the thong was purple and if LaCroix has something he needs to share with us.
><weg>
ROTFLMAO!! Ah, yes, just when one may think this list is a luxury, you
read something that proves you wrong! I eagerly await Uncle's visit for
his explanation!
still chuckling, thinking if we might want to invest in purple thongs,
monica
luscious luicus lover
LaCroix in 2000: When you're tired of choosing the lesser of two evils.
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Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 17:54:47 -0500
From: urtikit@m.......
Subject: Re: how much blood do vampires need?
Klytaimnestra wrote:
>A question which keeps recurring to me lately: how much do vampires drink,
>anyway?
Yet another topic that's raised some debate in the past!
FK doesn't really tell us, so there's room for several
theories. Your figures of .3 or .5 people per day
could easily be true.
So, how long is the longest time we've seen anyone
abstain without a drink? 12 hours or so? Days?
Divia lasted a while, but those circumstances might be
special....
The other thing is that it would be awfully difficult
if not impossible to get the full volume of blood out
of a person -- especially in the timeframe of mere
seconds that we're shown on the screen again and again.
They get what they can while the heart beats (cf.
Francesca), then they're done. To get enough to keep
the victim still alive, they may need more than one
(cf. Fallen Idol).
So sufficient volume to number of victims may not be a
one-to-one ratio. Just to complicate things. :)
>Staying in a small hamlet would be impossible, even for a single
>vampire. If the place only has a population of 1000, missing 365 in the
>course of a year would be pretty obvious!
On the other hand, mortality rates were pretty high
in previous centuries (and even now, in some places),
especially among children. A properly disguised kill
might well be taken for accidental or disease-related
death. Which wouldn't bring out the hunters with
torches and stakes -- at least, not right away.
They might soon decide their tuberculosis epidemic was
in fact related to those odd strangers in town, and...
well, then it's time to leave, quickly.
>My point is, if he had to drink 5 bottles of cows' blood
>a day, would we see him sipping it from wine glasses? Or would we see him,
>at the very least, swigging out of sports water bottles?
LOL! I love that image. :)
Although when we do get a peek inside Nick's fridge,
we often see several bottles in there. For example,
in Last Act, there are 5 (every time he opens the door,
so he must keep it restocked).
Depending on how well blood keeps - say 2-3 days, like
fresh meat? - he'd be going through more than one
bottle per day at least.
But you're right, it's cow blood, so possibly a
flawed comparison.
Someone else mentioned something about the older the
vampire, the less blood he/she needs.
Is that based on FK? I don't recall seeing that. In
fact, how often do we see LaCroix or Janette *without*
a glass in hand?
The lushes. :)
But seriously, maybe they actually need more as they age. Just something to
think about....
Kit
urtikit@m.......
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Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 16:22:27 -0700
From: Kyer <kyer@p.......>
Subject: Re: how much blood do vampires need?
>My point is, if he had to drink 5 bottles of cows' blood
>a day, would we see him sipping it from wine glasses? Or would we see him,
>at the very least, swigging out of sports water bottles?
Oh, great!
Now I've got this image of Nick sitting in the Leaf's Stadium sipping from
those hats that hold two drinks on either side with a tube going down to his
mouth. Then there are the sport bottle fanny packs that also hold two.
Damn.
And *that* makes me think of Dilbert and his technogadget one-up-manship.
So now I've got Nick with that hat, the fanny pack, and a
construction-worker type utility belt for his All-In-One remote, caddy keys,
handcuffs, garlic pillbox, stake (in case the Enforcers or LaCroix show up),
Fang Whitener (in case *Janette* shows up), and toothbrush (because
immortality is no excuse..).
Or forget the Batman utility belt.
Figure that that duster of his was given to him by Doctor Who on his 687th
come-across day. Time & Relative Dimensions In Pockets. TARDIP? Is that a
word? Anyways, that would probably be better, otherwise the combined weight
of all that would likely render him unable to fly.
Which would probably please Natalie.
Until another serial murder tries to take her down. Then she wouldn't be
too happy.
So maybe she'd give him some of those Air Pump athletic shoes so he'd be
able to get airborne again.
I'm rambling, aren't I?
:)=
Kyer
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Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 18:58:15 EST
From: Libratsie@a.......
Subject: Re: how much blood do vampires need?
In a message dated 11/19/00 4:55:29 PM Central Standard Time,
urtikit@m....... writes:
> Is that based on FK? I don't recall seeing that. In
> fact, how often do we see LaCroix or Janette *without*
> a glass in hand?
It was in A MORE PERMANENT HELL will LaCroix said the older vampires could
live a long time without feeding.
I've always wondered about the rat population of Toronto after Screed died
... uhr, took that nap<wRPg> He seemed to really suck the lil' squealers dry
constantly which would keep down the population.
Good city-zen Screed!
Libs
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Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 19:32:07 -0500
From: mclisa <mclisa@m.......>
Subject: Re: how much blood do vampires need?
There may well be a difference between the amount of blood a vampire has to
have, and the amount a vampire consumes when going by what seems like a good
idea at the time.
Case it point: I just got back from dinner out. I could live on considerably
less than I ate, but I enjoyed the whole meal.
Maybe Nick can live on a bottle or two a day, but LaCroix and Janette, not
being on a diet as it were, like to take more than that at a time.
McLisa (Lisa McDavid)
"That will be trouble".
Listowner, Forkni-l and Fkfic-l
mclisa@m.......
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Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 18:59:49 -0700
From: KYER <KYER@p.......>
Subject: The FTP site
Is there a way to find all the newest stories archived at the FTP?
Everytime I go there, I get overwhelmed at the thought of hunting down
possible non-fkficl fiction. There is just so darn *much* there. Like
looking for one of Nat's protein drinks in the Raven's wine cellar (should
one happen to get stashed in there by happenstance. Say, a cute, blonde
happenstance, maybe).
Anyways... help?
: (=
Kyer, kyer@p.......
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Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 21:18:47 -0500
From: Stephanie Kellerman <stephke@i.......>
Subject: Re: The FTP site
Is there anything specific you are looking for? Since it is an ftp site I
really don't know how to arrange the files in any other order unless I
duplicated what was there and put a duplicate file in a directory with the date
that the file was uploaded. I don't know of a way to index an ftp site except
through a web page and that in itself defeats the purpose of an ftp site. Some
people have access to ftp but not to the WWW. I am sure there aren't many out
there, but originally that is the reason for an ftp site and not another Web
site.
Steph
--
http://www.fkvoyage.com
ftp//ftp.win.net/winnet/fkvoyage/fkfanfic/
http://www.richardbasehart.com
"The sea..where each man, as in a mirror, finds himself", Richard Basehart as
Ishmael
"If you obey all the rules, you miss all the fun." Katherine Hepburn
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Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 18:52:47 -0800
From: fkforever <fkforever@y.......>
Subject: Re: The FTP site
<<KYER <KYER@p.......> wrote:
> Is there a way to find all the newest stories archived at the FTP?>>
Yes!
As new stories are added the "modified date" on the author's folder is
updated.
So just click the "modified" button and it will line up the dates from
oldest to most recently modified. If you click the button a second time
it will list the author's folders most recently modified to oldest.
Hope this helps.
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Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 22:02:25 -0000
From: Barbara Vainio <bevainio@w.......>
Subject: Re: how much blood do vampires need?
urtikit@m....... wrote:
> So, how long is the longest time we've seen anyone
> abstain without a drink? 12 hours or so? Days?
In Fallen Idol and the ep where Nick finally kills Amalia, there's an
implication that he's had "liaisons" with at least two women that lasted
several nights. We don't *know* if he was supplementing his diet, but if he
wasn't it would seem to prove that Nick didn't need a full person each
night.
Barb
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Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 20:05:57 -0700
From: Angela Gottfred <agottfre@t.......>
Subject: Re: how much blood do vampires need?
In Blackwing, Nat mentions that Nick had 3 pints (or was it units?) of
plasma this morning-- for breakfast. If it was pints, then that would be
1.5 quarts, or just under .33 of a human. Interesting how that dovetails
with your other observation about one person being enough for the three of
them... It also would be equivalent to one person every three
days--remember Nick's 3-woman menagerie in Fallen Idol? That would work out
to a 9- or 10-day supply.
Your humble & obedient servant,
Ligeia
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Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 22:27:38 -0500
From: Stephanie Kellerman <stephke@i.......>
Subject: Re; The FTP site
Liz,
That seems to be a lot easier solution. Thanks for the idea.
Now a request. I ask this once in awhile with real life the way it is.-- If
anyone knows that I haven't uploaded their story(ies) to the site could you
please send them to me? Or let me know the names of them so I can check on
them. Sometimes they get away from me and I think I have uploaded them and
haven't. I know Real Life has really hit Mel and have always wondered how she
keeps up her site. The FTP site is peanuts compared to her site. Just send
them to stephke@i....... I would appreciate it.
Thanks.
Steph
Liz the Lucky wrote:
> What about making a file that just has the names and authors of new fics,
> and the date they were uploaded? Then instead of copying the story, you'd
> just add what you uploaded to the top of the file, and people would be able
> to read it and find out what's new?
>
--
Steph
stephke@i.......
http://www.fkvoyage.com
http://www.milillo.com
ftp://ftp.win.net/winnet/fkvoyage/fkfanfic/
http://www.ensley-wilson.com
http://www.nimr.org
http://ej-art.com
http://www.nimr.net
http://www.richardbasehart.com
"The sea..where each man, as in a mirror, finds himself", Richard Basehart as
Ishmael
"If you obey all the rules, you miss all the fun." Katherine Hepburn
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Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 22:30:13 -0500
From: Stephanie Kellerman <stephke@i.......>
Subject: Re: The FTP site
That is right and did not think of that when I responded then when I thought of
it you beat me to it! <g>
Steph
fkforever wrote:
> <<KYER <KYER@p.......> wrote:
> > Is there a way to find all the newest stories archived at the FTP?>>
>
> Yes!
>
> As new stories are added the "modified date" on the author's folder is
> updated.
>
stephke@i.......
http://www.fkvoyage.com
ftp://ftp.win.net/winnet/fkvoyage/fkfanfic/
http://www.richardbasehart.com
"The sea..where each man, as in a mirror, finds himself", Richard Basehart as
Ishmael
"If you obey all the rules, you miss all the fun." Katherine Hepburn
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Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 23:14:55 -0500
From: Mickey <wench@a.......>
Subject: Re: LCA pics
At 04:25 PM 11/19/00 -0500, you wrote:
>The official LCA website has been updated with pics from this years
>auction!!! Check it out!!
Who is that good looking blond woman with Kathryn?? She looks like a
potential director....
<G>
Annmarie
wench@a.......
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Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 00:10:24 EST
From: WRDRR@a.......
Subject: LaCroix's Pin
All,
Has anyone yet found a *good*, <reasonably> priced version of LaCroix's
wonderful sword pin? I know it must have been a kilt pin. I've been looking
but they're either too small, or way to thick and big. Truly bummed. Any
jewelers out there who know who to make a nice pewter version? ? ? ?
Anybody?
Casting T. F. Stone (not even a Cousin or Addict. Caddywhacked and tha'ts a
fact.)
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Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 23:04:17 -0600
From: Sami Swan Thompson <angels2@f.......>
Subject: Re: how much blood do vampires need? Or want?
Angela Gottfred wrote:
> It also would be equivalent to one person every three
> days--remember Nick's 3-woman menagerie in Fallen Idol?
> That would work out to a 9- or 10-day supply.
Now, that depends. Who knows how long his stash of Bimbos
might have lasted? It could have been days, or just hours,
according to Nick's appetite(s).
Even vampires get the munchies occasionally. And then it's
just nibble, nibble, nibble all night long, the poor dears.
{It's so irritating when one's entree keeps darting about.}
Sami
{who's finally back! Now winding up treatment/transitioning to
out-patient clinic. Soon I will regain my evil powers to wreak
[how the heck do ya spell it?] havoc & unnatural board games
upon the world once again! Bwa-ha-ha-ha!}
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Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 23:29:57 -0600
From: Michele Alexander <syren@i.......>
Subject: On *now*: Nigel, etc. alert
I just turned on the TV directly on a scene with Nigel and the actor who we
all know as Paul from Black Harbour talking. I think the woman who played
Kit's mother in BH may be in it as well.
I have no idea what the movie is...but it looks fairly recent. I've only
been watching it for five minutes or so...I have no idea whether the guys
will appear again.
Its channel 7(ABC) in Chicago the story appears to be something about child
abuse and a custody battle.
Later all,
Michele
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Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 00:27:42 -0500
From: Marg Yamanaka <mytoronto@h.......>
Subject: Re: how much blood do vampires need? Or want?
Sami Swan Thompson wrote:
> {who's finally back! Now winding up treatment/transitioning to
> out-patient clinic. Soon I will regain my evil powers to wreak
> [how the heck do ya spell it?] havoc & unnatural board games
> upon the world once again! Bwa-ha-ha-ha!}
Welcome back, Sami! We missed you.
And BTW, you spelled it correctly. The only people who go around
reeking havoc are the ones who don't shower often enough. <g>
--
Marg, in Toronto, the City of the Knight <mytoronto@h.......>
Please visit the Upper Canada Connection -
A Canadian Tribute to Geraint Wyn Davies:
http://members.home.net/gwducc/index.htm
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Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 23:42:43 -0700
From: twofun4u <twofun4u@e.......>
Subject: Update
Hello all,
Yes it's me again. I've been slaving away trying to livin my webpage up.
So I've added some new things to it.
Community Bulletin Board
http://www.moonprincess.net/cgi-bin/forums/ikonboard.cgi
Guest Book
http://www.moonprincess.net/forever_knight/cgi-bin/gb.cgi
FK Faction Webring to add your site.
http://www.moonprincess.net/webring/cgi-bin/newsite.cgi
And a links page if you would be so kind as to add your own link.
http://www.moonprincess.net/links/main.cgi
If you'll take a look and see what you thing.
Thanks
JJ
DP*The Blonde w/Brains
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Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 23:13:03 +1300
From: Knightraven <knightraven@c.......>
Subject: Re: The FTP site
I think the dates in the first column are updated with the new
stuff...therefore the newest dates have the new stuff.
Ky...the other one.
> Is there a way to find all the newest stories archived at the FTP?
> Everytime I go there, I get overwhelmed at the thought of hunting down
> possible non-fkficl fiction. There is just so darn *much* there. Like
> looking for one of Nat's protein drinks in the Raven's wine cellar (should
> one happen to get stashed in there by happenstance. Say, a cute, blonde
> happenstance, maybe).
>
> Anyways... help?
>
> : (=
> Kyer, kyer@p.......
>
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Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 08:03:57 -0400
From: "T. Floyd" <jflyer@b.......>
Subject: Re: On *now*: Nigel, etc. alert
> -----Original Message-----
> Behalf Of Michele Alexander
> I just turned on the TV directly on a scene with Nigel and the actor who we
> all know as Paul from Black Harbour talking. I think the woman who played
> Kit's mother in BH may be in it as well.
Alex Carter (Paul Isler from BH), and Nigel Bennett co-starred in the 1996
TV movie Her Desperate Choice. I don't think Joan Gregson (Frances Hubbard
in BH) is in it, but she did appear in a 1990 Road to Avonlea episode, as
did about three quarters of all Canadian actors including N.B. :)
> Its channel 7(ABC) in Chicago the story appears to be something about child
> abuse and a custody battle.
The plot is summarized at: http://us.imdb.com/Plot?0116518
LapLor
--
admin@p....... http://pineloft.com http://Laplor.tripod.com/
http://www.themestream.com/articles/203709.html
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Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 08:11:44 -0500
From: Brenda Bell <webwarren@e.......>
Subject: Screed's dietary needs (WAS: Re: how much blood do vampires need?)
At 06:58 PM 11/19/00 -0500, Libratsie wrote:
>I've always wondered about the rat population of Toronto after Screed died
>... uhr, took that nap<wRPg> He seemed to really suck the lil' squealers dry
>constantly which would keep down the population.
I thought about this during War 10, when Screed's temporary remortalization
was supposed to have caused a sudden rat infestation in Toronto. In the CGW
post "Experience is a Terrible Thing to Waste, we broke the proscenium
enough to state:
>* At this point... Pen and Brenda remember...
>* remember that based on the Screed scenes in
>* "Black Buddah", it looks like Screed consumes
>* no more than a dozen or so rats a night.
I went back to Web sources at that time and came up with the following:
>"Statistics from various pest control specialists around the nation(1)
>imply that the normal rat to human population in large cities such as
>Toronto ranges from one to five to as high as one to one. Given Toronto's
>population of approximately 2.3 million people, that means approximately
>450,000 to 2.3 million rats in the city and its environs.
My source was the Web site for The Next City, a Toronto magazine:
> From http://www.nextcity.com/main/town/10urban.htm:
> A pair of Norway rats, Canada's most common species, have up to seven
>litters per year, each of 8 to 12 young, or a potential 15,000 new rats
>annually.
So Screed's departure from the ratcatching scene would have done virtually
nothing to change Toronto's rat population.
Brenda F. Bell webwarren@e....... /nick TMana IM: n2kye
Arctophile, computer addict, TREKker, stealth photographer...
UA, PoCBS, FKPagan; Neon-Green GlowWorm
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Visit the Fiendish Glow at http://home.earthlink.net/~webwarren/glow/
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Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 08:24:18 -0500
From: Tim Phillips <Timp@d.......>
Subject: Re: how much blood do vampires need?
> I'm rambling, aren't I?
Yes. But in a most interesting sort of way. :-)
Tim
Tim Phillips
timp@d.......
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Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 08:59:39 EST
From: Sing to Angels <Sng2angels@a.......>
Subject: Wanted: Alpha and Beta readers...
I am in need of an alpha and a beta reader. I have a problem writing long
stories and grammar isn't my strong suit.. Hehe. If anyone would like to
offer their services, I would be REALLY thankful!
Thanks,
STA
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Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 09:04:21 EST
From: Libratsie@a.......
Subject: Re: Screed's dietary needs (WAS: Re: how much blood do vampires need?)
In a message dated Mon, 20 Nov 2000 8:10:15 AM Eastern Standard Time, Brenda
Bell <webwarren@e.......> writes:
<<I thought about this during War 10, when Screed's temporary remortalization
was supposed to have caused a sudden rat infestation in Toronto.>>
Guilty as charged!
<<In the CGW
post "Experience is a Terrible Thing to Waste, we broke the proscenium
enough to state:>>
We actually have no idea how many rats a night Screed consumes. Just because
a dozen were hanging in his place doesn't mean he needs that many, or doesn't
need more. It was never stated.
<<So Screed's departure from the ratcatching scene would have done virtually
nothing to change Toronto's rat population.>>
I agree - but I was attempting a bit of humor. Excuse me if I failed. I'm
afraid I'm about to give up.
--Libs
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Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 09:10:30 -0500
From: Tim Phillips <Timp@d.......>
Subject: Re: how much blood do vampires need?
A vampire is a predator.
Most predators live in a feast/faminie life-style.
They do not make a kill every time that they attempt an attack.
When something like a big cat makes a kill it will eat a lot while
the food is available and then it may "starve" for days, living off its
previous meal while it tries to make another kill.
FK Vampires seem to be very successful predators (most folks
don't get away), but they also can't be willful killers. Too many
dead bodies get noticed. When actively hunting, it would make
sense that they would only kill occasionally and drink the body as
dry as possible so that they would be able to get well away before
the hunt for the murderer began.
It think this may make it hard to predict a "standard meal". If
vampires are habitually feast/faminie eatters, then any given meal
that we see may be something "more than normal" that was eatten
at the end of several days when they weren't really hungry.
Scattered through the series are hints/clues that the FK vampires
are not actively hunting for their dinner in Toronoto. They seem to
feed from bottles when just eating. I've always assumed that the
vampires had a mechanism for taping into the bloodbanks to obtain
what they need. This is what keeps Toronoto from being littered
with vampire bodies.
Also, it does seem to fit that folks may get bitten and bled a little
and then hypnotized into forgetting the whole thing.
Tim
Tim Phillips
timp@d.......
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Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 10:15:54 EST
From: BJDFKFan@a.......
Subject: One last plea!
Thanks to all of the wonderful people who have sent in their contributions
for the upcoming full page Kickstart the Knight ad for FK, we now only need
$67!!!! Since we will be placing the ad very soon, we are no longer taking
contributions by snail mail. But if you'd like to help us out with this last
little bit and can pay by credit card via PayPal, please visit the KtK
website at http://www.ktk.op.nu or http://members.aol.com/ktkpage
There is also a copy of the ad there for everyone's enjoyment!
Hopefully the next time you'll hear from me is when we announce the date for
the ad! Thanks again!!
Becky -- DFKS, DK, IB, DT, UF, Ravenette, Cousin, FOD
http://members.aol.com/BJDFKFan, http://members.aol.com/DKfanfic
We're cut adrift, but still floating. I'm only hanging on to watch you go
down...my love. (Bono, U2)
The world was bankrupted of ten million fine actions the night she passed on.
(paraphrased from Ray Bradbury's F. 451, in memory of Libby M.)
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Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 09:19:31 -0600
From: Nancy Kaminski <nancykam@m.......>
Subject: Re: how much blood do vampires need?
Kyer wrote:
> Figure that that duster of his was given to him by Doctor Who on his 687th
> come-across day. Time & Relative Dimensions In Pockets. TARDIP? Is that a
> word? Anyways, that would probably be better, otherwise the combined weight
> of all that would likely render him unable to fly.
Attractive as a Dr. Who/FK crossover concept is (Tom Baker meets Lacroix? Who
would win? Would Lacroix be undone by the Doctor's sonic screwdriver, or perhaps
a Venusian aikido move? <weg>) I think the real possibility is the black raincoat
Nick got from Duncan McLeod -- you know, the one with the interdimensional pocket
where all immortals stash their swords. This handy pocket even allows them to
board intercontinental planes without setting off metal detectors or being
subjected to embarrassing body searches.
Nancy Kaminski
(former member of the Whoniversity of Minnesota <g>)
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Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 10:36:33 -0500
From: mclisa <mclisa@m.......>
Subject: Admin: What that Yahoo autoresponse means
The problem is with Yahoo, not with the lists or with you. Please do not
repost without consulting me.
Yahoo's mailer is misset. It is supposed to return posts which it can't
deliver to Don Fasig. Instead it returns them to the person who sent the
post to the list.
I have now set the address which was bouncing to nomail. This will keep any
more bounces from going back to the person who sent the post to the list.
The listserv at PSU never sends the poster a notice to say it can't deliver
a post. If you receive one, you can be sure the problem is a subscriber's
bouncing address. Please forward the whole post, complete with headers, to
me or to Don. We can then fix the problem.
Thanks, and FWITW, I thought it was me the first time it happened to me,
too, years ago on another list.
McLisa (Lisa McDavid)
"That will be trouble".
Listowner, Forkni-l and Fkfic-l
mclisa@m.......
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Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 10:38:09 -0500
From: mclisa <mclisa@m.......>
Subject: Admin: FORKNI-L Rules
Good morning, and happy Thanksgiving this Thursday to all the US
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Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 10:53:18 -0500
From: Portia 1 <portia1@m.......>
Subject: Re: On *now*: Nigel, etc. alert
I spent the weekend over at my parents' house and you can't imagine how
frustrating it was in an FK way! First, I forget to bring my disk containing
the story I am currently working on. But this was the least of my frustrations!
The parents have recently installed satellite, and my dad is a compulsive
channel flipper (I am, too, but it's not *annoying* when I do it! "g"). Imagine
my sudden shock and glee, followed by profound frustration, when he suddenly
flicks past a channel hosting "Black Harbour" -- something I never knew about
except through some very interesting crossovers! "Turn it back!" I cry, and he
does, with much grumbling. I caught one tiny glimpse of Nick telling some little
girl to go home with granny (or whatever) and that mommy would be okay, before
dad flicked on past. My plantive sighs and subtle digs finally drove him from
the room (he would never watch such a thing). Yea! The turner is mine!...Until
mom comes downstairs with a big bowl of popcorn and commandeers the turner. She
finally decides to settle on "Wagons East!," of all things! Then last night I
settle in to watch "Skulls," trying to catch some of Nigel, when the snow that
has been falling all day somehow disrupts the signal. The screen shows jagged
images and jigsaw scenes, with only occasional clear glipses of what'sis-name --
that Pacey guy. And I don't even watch "Dawson's Creek!"
Oh the many tribulations of an FK fan. Somebody please bring back the
episodes!!! Sci Fi, have mercy on us!!!!
Portia the rather Pathetic
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Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 13:25:38 -0500
From: "Brooks, Julia A." <BROOKJU@m.......>
Subject: Re: how much blood do vampires need?
>From: Klytaimnestra [mailto:lbowman@c.......]
>A question which keeps recurring to me lately: how much do vampires drink,
>anyway? <snip> When we see Nick, LaCroix and Janette hunting, they seem to
>bring down only one person for the three of them in a night. <snip> We often
>see Nick drinking a glass of cow's blood, or a bottle of it. A bottle is about
>1 quart.
I think that this is one of those cheesy moments (Stilton perhaps?) that we
often have on Forever Knight. There are times when we see more than one
empty bottle lying around Nick's apartment after a night - er, day - of
restlessness. Then there were those eps when he was not drinking at all.
LC sips at his wine glass of nourishment, yet when he bites a human he takes
only a moment and renders the human dead of exsanguination. And Janette
says that she can never bring someone across because she can not stop
herself - presumably from draining them dry.
Supposing all of the above are valid. The older vampires don't need that
much to maintain themselves that is why you see LC, Nick and Janette sipping
from wine glasses. Yet, when they actually take *live* food, the sensation
is so intoxicating that they, um, overindulge and drink the entire 5 or so
quarts. Sort of like a Thanksgiving dinner! (Sorry bad joke.)
Just my 2 cents, YMMV.
Julia B. (aka: Brooksie) and Allie's Brook
forever Knightie crusader, Les Chevaliers de la Nuit
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Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 14:44:41 -0500
From: Portia 1 <portia1@m.......>
Subject: Re: how much blood do vampires need?
Also, it does seem to fit that folks may get bitten and bled a little
and then hypnotized into forgetting the whole thing.
Tim Phillips
Hmmm....Maybe *that* explains all of the "abduction" tales --
"Look into my eyes! Now you will forget everything! Hmmm, or maybe not....You
will have vague memories of bulbous-headed little green men probing you in
unpleasant places, and will have a compulsion to report this experience only to
disreputable magazines...."
Well, come on! You live enough centuries, you must surely get starved for
amusement -- and your sense of humour surely must get warped! "g"
Portia (Who me? Warped?)
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