FORKNI-L
Digest - 29 May 2000 to 30 May 2000 (#2000-157)
Tue, 30 May 2000
There are 18 messages totalling 468 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Father's Day flasback questions
2. Ship speeds in the twenties (3)
3. My NEW Romantic Fan Fiction!
4. Number of Names for Petitons (3)
5. Crossing the Pond
6. Various and Sundry
7. Alumni alert... Sort of.....
8. Old Roses
9. Pipe Dreams
10. lost digest
11. Canadian Prohibition (was Father's Day flasback questions)
12. FK font request
13. Esoteric History Questions
14. Lets try voting for FK on a different day...
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Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 18:37:53 -0400
From: "Cindy L. Clark" <ClarkCindy@e.......>
Subject: Re: Father's Day flasback questions
> >1. How long would a trans-Atlantic crossing of time take?
> A week or less, depending on the ship and the weather. I think the record
> was three days, but that about five was more normal.
I did research for an unfinished fic that has post WWI flashbacks, and found
reference that it would take ten days by freighter from LeHavre, France to
New York City.
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Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 23:05:32 -0400
From: mclisa@m.......
Subject: Ship speeds in the twenties
Cindy Clark points out in commenting on my estimate of about a week or a bit
less for a ship crossing from presumably France to New York in the Father's
Day flashback:
>I did research for an unfinished fic that has post WWI flashbacks, and found
>reference that it would take ten days by freighter from LeHavre, France to
>New York City.
Well, yes, but it should be noted that passenger liners were built for speed
and were intended to be faster than freighters.
However, I don't recall evidence that Nick was on a passenger liner, except
that the trunk looked to me like something a traveller would take on such a
liner. The 10 days and freighter scenario certainly makes sense.
Cousin McLisa (Lisa McDavid) "That will be Trouble."
mclisa@m.......
Listowner Forkni-l, Fkfic-l, Fkv4s-l
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Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 22:08:51 -0500
From: Lauren <lauren1228@m.......>
Subject: My NEW Romantic Fan Fiction!
Hey Everyone!
I have just updated with romantic FK Fan fiction :) I know I just
annouced another big update yesterday. But, I really want you to check it
out and sign my Dream Book too :)
I'm also looking for someone who is interested in writing a Nick and
Lover story for me? EX. Nick with girls from the past or Nick and Flirty
vampire. just email me!
I'm also looking for someone who is interested in writing a Nick and
Nat story for me? Il give you credit by saying who wrote this and there
email address please email me if your interested! THANKS SO
MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I Hope you all like the IB one I wrote! If you would also like your
Fan fiction Link added just tell me so!
Have LOTS of fun!!!!!!! :)
Lauren http://members.xoom.com/vampirekiss3/nick_jan_page/webpage/
:) :) :)
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Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 22:05:43 -0500
From: deb <totoq@r.......>
Subject: Re: Ship speeds in the twenties
FYI -
In 1844 a predecessor of our family crossed from England to New York ...
it took 6 weeks ... way too long for a vamp ...
deb in KS
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Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 23:16:03 EDT
From: WRDRR@a.......
Subject: Re: Number of Names for Petitons
In a message dated 5/28/00 10:43:03 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
kris1228@s....... writes:
<< You can help make them hit 1,000! >>
Great job! Five huzzahs to Kristin for getting this together.
Casting T. F. Stone
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Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 23:17:20 EDT
From: KaAG@a.......
Subject: Re: Ship speeds in the twenties
In a message dated 5/29/00 11:14:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
totoq@r....... writes:
<< took 6 weeks ... way too long for a vamp ...
>>
not necessarily... as long as it was a *passenger* ship with lots of
guests... a vamp could be quite comfortable ;)
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Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 22:21:53 -0500
From: Lauren <lauren1228@m.......>
Subject: Re: Number of Names for Petitons
Good job indeed sis! :)
Lauren your sweet sister! :)
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Sent: Monday, May 29, 2000 10:16 PM
To: FORKNI-L@l.......
Subject: Re: Number of Names for Petitons
In a message dated 5/28/00 10:43:03 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
kris1228@s....... writes:
<< You can help make them hit 1,000! >>
Great job! Five huzzahs to Kristin for getting this together.
Casting T. F. Stone
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Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 20:29:31 -0700
From: Storm Born <the_stormborn@y.......>
Subject: Crossing the Pond
--- deb <totoq@r.......> wrote:
>>In 1844 a predecessor of our family crossed from
England to New York ... it took 6 weeks ... way too
long for a vamp ...<<
Well, *but* <g>...
We know that Nick and the Family were in America
several times during the 'age of sail,' when a
crossing did indeed take as long as six weeks. I can
only conclude that either 1) they resorted to feeding
off the ships' rats or 2) a few passengers must have
succumbed to a mysterious 'wasting disease.'
=====
Molly/StormBorn
FKPagan/Cousin/Seducer/Ravenette/DT/Who's Army Legionnaire
LaCroix: Punk Enough
the_stormborn@y.......
Voicemail:1-888-Excite2, ext. 0786762676 (0stormborn)
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Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 23:09:19 +0000
From: Kristin <kris1228@s.......>
Subject: Re: Number of Names for Petitons
Thank you! :) It's over 1,000 now, thanks to you all for signing.
Kristin
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WRDRR@a.......
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 3:16 AM
To: FORKNI-L@l.......
Subject: Re: Number of Names for Petitons
In a message dated 5/28/00 10:43:03 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
kris1228@s....... writes:
<< You can help make them hit 1,000! >>
Great job! Five huzzahs to Kristin for getting this together.
Casting T. F. Stone
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Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 23:16:49 -0500
From: Nancy Kaminski <nancykam@m.......>
Subject: Re: Various and Sundry
From: Storm Born <the_stormborn@y.......>
> Who else is going to LCA3? I'd like to meet as many
> FK fans as possible while I'm there.
I'm going -- look for us in the bar! The lower portion is conducive to
discussions lasting until 2 am. <g>
Nancy Kaminski
nancykam@m.......
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Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 00:28:01 EDT
From: MrsMech@a.......
Subject: Alumni alert... Sort of.....
I was checking out my onscreen guide of channels and found a channel called
'Odyssey'. I was all excited when I found out that they play some of my
favourite shows like 'The Young Riders' and 'Beauty and The Beast' when all
of a sudden I realized that they also show 'Avonlea'! The episode showing
tomarrow is 'A Woman of Importance'. I'm not sure where Nigel's eps are
(before or after) this ep, and would like it if someone could let me know so
that I can catch it.
Thanks,
Monique
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Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 00:19:55 -0400
From: Erika Wilson <wilsone1@e.......>
Subject: Old Roses
Molly, (and yes, you would do well to tremble at her return)
asked about Ye Olde Roses:
> it's my understanding that the multi-petaled
> roses that are common today weren't developed until
> after what we would call the Middle Ages; that the
> roses known there were more along the lines of wild
> roses
<<Ahem>> Waaaaay back when I was a dewy-eyed fanfic
writer (as compared to my current bleary-eyed state)
I wrote a story called "Teardrops" (Plug? What plug?)
timed just prior to the flashback in "Be My Valentine"
and set in a rose garden. At the time I did a bit of
research on early European Rosiculture and my interest
continues. The Greek Historian Herodatus wrote of a
sixty-blossomed rose grown by King Midas in the 6th
century B.C., Pliny the Elder mentioned a hundred-petalled
rose (presumably prior to the Vesuvius eruption) and
frescoes in Pompeii show semi-double roses quite clearly.
The tight-budded modern tea rose is indeed a very recent
development. Ancient roses were looser with five petal
varieties abounding, but ancient societies used roses
for perfume, confetti, sweetmeats, medicines, etc., and
cultivated them, in numerous forms, for millenia.
After the fall of Rome, the rose fell out of favor as being
too closely associated with pagan cultures. It was revived
as a symbol of the cult of Mary and by the 12th century, the
rosary (occasionally made of dried rose hips) was being used
by Monks to count their Hail Marys. And so, roses quietly grown
in monastery gardens during the dark ages were freely dispersed
for widespread cultivation across Europe.
Rosa Gallica Officinalis (possibly the Lancaster Rose)
is thought to have been brought back from the 7th Crusade
in 1250 by Thibault IV. Other roses of the day were the
Albas and the Damasks.
There now, wasn't that *much* more than you ever wanted
to know about old roses?
> Also, were moonflowers known in the 12th century?
Mmmmm, not sure what flower you're referring to. More info?
Erika <wilsone1@e.......>
"My friends often use the term 'pedantic' when referring to
me. I can't imagine why."
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Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 07:55:49 -0700
From: "Kelly C. Smith" <tigrlady2u@j.......>
Subject: Re: Pipe Dreams
Hi all. Just wanted to apologize for not getting back to you sooner. I
am posting part twenty-one to fkfic-l today and I will work on sending
the next parts out, ASAP. My family decided on a 'quick' trip to
Southern California for Memorial Day weekend. 1,080 miles (round trip)
in three days... I'm exhausted!!!
Thanks for being patient with me. Love to all.
KC Smith
tigrlady2u@j.......
Nick/Natpacker with Dark Knightie tendencies.
"I've never met a chocolate I didn't like."
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Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 12:37:19 -0500
From: Monica Thadine Rodriguez <mrodri14@u.......>
Subject: lost digest
mclisa, would have written you personally, but i'm missing a lot of addies
right now with my new mailer. i just deleted the last couple of digest
posts, (still getting the hang of this) and was wondering if there's a
place i can get them, like the webpages for egroups/onelist and others. or
if someone has them, can they forward them to me??? thanks!
monica
luscious lucius lover
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Date: Fri, 30 May 1980 12:19:39 -0600
From: Angela Gottfred <agottfre@t.......>
Subject: Re: Canadian Prohibition (was Father's Day flasback questions)
Canada _did_ have Prohibition, but it worked a bit differently from in the
States. It was brought in as provincial legislation, rather than a
constitutional amendment; Prince Edward Island was the first province to go
"dry", in 1901, and by WWI, Prohibition was nation-wide, with no brewing or
distilling at all. After the war, brewers & distillers were allowed to
operate, as long as their products were strictly for export. Exporting
alcohol to the U.S. was legal under Canadian law, but it wasn't legal to
export to "dry" provinces. The first province to go "wet" again was Quebec,
in 1919, which was a real boon for Quebec tourism--that was the year before
the US passed Prohibition! Ontario repealed prohibition in 1927. In most
provinces, Prohibition was replaced by a government monopoly on wholesale &
retail liquor sales, under provincial "Liquor Control Boards", which most
provinces still have today. (Alberta scrapped its retail monopoly about 10
years ago, so Albertans can now buy cold beer!)
During prohibition, you could get a legal prescription for "medicinal"
alcohol--apparently there were big line-ups at the pharmacies around
Christmas! Some provinces had exemptions for locally-made wine. There were
also illegal sources like moonshine, liquor smuggling, and speakeasies
(also called "blind pigs"). The last province to repeal Prohibition was
Prince Edward Island, in 1948.
Almost all this information comes from _The Canadian Encyclopedia_. Sorry,
no explicit mention of the Mafia, or even "organized crime".
Your humble & obedient servant,
Ligeia
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Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 13:30:38 -0700
From: Bonnie <callalily@l.......>
Subject: FK font request
Does anyone have the FOREVER KNIGHT font as a .ttf file??
DO NOT SENT IT TO THE LIST!
Please write to me privately if you do. Thanks so much,
Bonnie
<callalily@l.......>
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Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 16:46:08 EDT
From: MRKKaye@a.......
Subject: Re: Esoteric History Questions
In a message dated 5/28/2000 3:33:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
the_stormborn@y....... writes:
<< Also, were
moonflowers known in the 12th century? >>
According to Kruger's Guide to Herbs, moonflowers (aka Jimson Weed,
thornapple, mad apple, or devil's apple) were used by the high priestess at
Apollo's Oracle at Delphi. This dates it back to at least 500 BC.
Marla K.
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Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 16:28:07 +0000
From: Kristin <kris1228@s.......>
Subject: Lets try voting for FK on a different day...
Like today! Go ahead and place your votes today, instead of the end of the
week for a switch. Lets see if that will help.
IMPORTANT: Who is the multiple "anonymous??" I saw LOTS of anonymous votes
from the 27th. Afterwards FK dropped to 10! Please don't vote with multiple
e-mails. You are only hurting the position. It will only LOWER your weight
because they DO reconize multiple ISP addesses. And please sign up with
your name so you can weigh worth more on the chart.
The only way it will climb is if we do the two things listed below...
#1. IMPORTANT: Those of you who are not on High Levels please simply amswer
your questions on the personal card about gender, birth,etc. It's very
simple and does not take long and it REALLY helps your weight on the charts.
If every one can get up to HIGH level, it can really help FK's position! If
you have questions about this please feel free to ask me off-list.
#2. NEW VOTERS: We REALLY need NEW voters who have never voted for FK before
on the chart. Please, if you have not voted before click on the address
below, and then click I'm a New User. Then follow the easy rules to sign up.
We really need you! (and don't forget this chart is sent in to TPTB monthly
with the petitions!)
To vote for FK go here: http://www.global100.com/item.asp?Item=51259
Any questions, feel free to mail me!
Thank you for voting! :)
Kristin
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