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Digest - 21 May 2000 to 22 May 2000 (#2000-149)

Mon, 22 May 2000

There are 11 messages totalling 408 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. What if? (2)
  2. The Triple TPTB Blitz Day 7!
  3. Knight without the Crawler (2)
  4. an fk  moment
  5. timeline of show, lists, campaigns?
  6. Looking for FK-tapes
  7. Admin: Forkni-l rules  & Asking about tapes
  8. Info needed for fanfic - Nat's SIL and niece's names (2)


Date:    Sun, 21 May 2000 14:30:06 -0700
From:    Kyer <kyer@p.......>
Subject: Re: What if?

----- Original Message -----
From: <DanaKnight@a.......>
> I think if LC had died, then Nick wouldn't have started backsliding. He would
> still be the happier vampire he was first season.

I don't know why...but I find the the phrase "happy vampire" when referring
to Nick somehow very funny.  Maybe its the thought of Schanke and the others
calling him 'Perky'. <g>

> <<For all those Nat-haters out there, what if Roger Jamison had killed her?
> This is before Nick and Nat got real close, so what would Nick have done?

Gone back to Janette? <eTKg>

> I am a Natpacker. It would've been a very
> close call but Nick would've turned Roger over to the law.

Before or after he drained him?

> <<Has anyone ever played What If with Forever Knight?>>

Of course!  What if Nick was partial to 30-something Internet Potatoes who
spent mega hours in from of the monitor surfing fanfic sites? <g>

> Suppose Alexandra had killed Nick. What would Nat do
> then? And would LaCroix go after Alexandra, <snipped>

Well, *Kyer* would be crying buckets.  And if LaCroix *didn't* go after
Alexandra, then Kyer would unleash all of her Personalities on LC until he
went nuts.  Eventually, Alexandra would be a little pile of ashes.

Kyer, kyer@p.......


Date:    Sun, 21 May 2000 17:31:54 +0000
From:    Kristin <kris1228@s.......>
Subject: The Triple TPTB Blitz Day 7!

It is day 7 of the Triple TPTB Blitz!! Tomorrow is the last final day of
this huge blitz, so lets show the Powers That Be what we want!
It is time to once again show just how much you want more of the Knight!
Except rember this time we are not stopping with just Sci-fi. This time out,
we are blitzing Sci-Fi, USA NETWORKS and Columbia Tristar! Its a triple dose
of e-mails from each of you the fans that would love to not only have FK
back on Sci-fi's schedule, but want to make sure everyone knows that we are
want more FK with the original cast in new eps and or movies!!

So, what do you say? Are you ready to sit down, take that few minutes and
send off three e-mails? It could make all the difference in the world!
So, say a little or say a lot, but say it!! We can make more FK happen!!!

Every day, *May 15th, through May 22nd*, we are asking everyone to blitz all
three feedbacks!!! You can re-use the e-mails you did before, or write new
ones. They can be long, or as short as just saying, "Bring Back Forever

Here's the addresses PLUS the 4th one which is where you cna also write for
FK on video!

Sci-Fi's E-mail: feedback@w....... feedback@w.......

Sony/Tristar Mail Form: http://www.spe.sony.com/spe/help_feedback_index.html

USA's E-mail: shows@u.......

For FK on Video:

Happy Blitzing!


Date:    Sun, 21 May 2000 19:40:41 EDT
From:    Sss44@a.......
Subject: Re: Knight without the Crawler

In a message dated 5/19/00 6:51:05 PM Central Daylight Time, kyer@p.......

> Can any of you honestly see the General allowing this to happen?  Even if
>  the link between them was lost, LaCroix would hire the services of every
>  bounty hunter and private eye known to both worlds to get Nick back---and
>  then drain him all over again with threats of dire consequences to his
>  friend mortals if he didn't reject the Light a for second time.

I absolutely cannot imagine Lacroix letting this happen. Janette maybe, but
not Nick. I've always wondered that Janette doesn't seem to feel a lot of
jealousy towards Nick. He's the teacher's pet, after all. :-)



Date:    Sun, 21 May 2000 19:42:09 EDT
From:    Sss44@a.......
Subject: Re: Knight without the Crawler

In a message dated 5/19/00 8:56:51 PM Central Daylight Time, g4akl@c.......

> And I seem to recall one or two fanfic stories where he died or
>  was severely injured *because* he tried to continue being a cop
>  after regaining his mortaility, though I don't remember the
>  fanfic titles/authors.  Anyone else remember?

One of them was my story, Back to Normal.



Date:    Sun, 21 May 2000 22:33:45 -0400
From:    "Brenda F. Bell" <webwarren@e.......>
Subject: Re: What if?

At 02:48 PM 5/21/00 EDT, Judy Freudenthal responded to Liz the Lucky:

><<For all those Nat-haters out there, what if Roger Jamison had killed her?
>Nick would've really wanted to kill Roger for killing Nat. N&N were
>friends, and maybe more by the time of Roger.

We could definitely see the Green-Eyed Monster coming into focus there...
and that was the Season of the Red Contact Lenses!

>...I think [Nick] would've wanted to kill Roger, but something
>would stop him. Something inside, maybe Nat's voice.

And if they were close enough for the Green-Eyed Monster, then maybe, given
an NNP slant and the information we learned in Season Three...

Nick would've regained his mortality.

*THEN* what would have happened with the show? Would Janette have let Nick
go, or would she have tried to bring him back across? Would the Enforcers
have tracked him down? Would Lacroix come back out of hiding and done
something -- anything -- unspeakable to the Golden Boy?

Brenda F. Bell   webwarren@e.......   /nick TMana     IM: n2kye
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Date:    Mon, 22 May 2000 02:39:57 EDT
From:    NitaV@a.......
Subject: an fk  moment

I was watching Gladiator on Saturday when the emperor's daughter said her
son's name was Lucius. I smiled to myself. Alas the boy was brunette which
would fit in with second season LaCroix. Yea if you think first season was
either laCroix trying out the punk and Bleach look for about 800 years give
or take a few times when he let it go back to its regular color. BTW the boy
said he was named after his father. Made me wonder that if this was FK
related then it would be a good background for LaCroix. But alas it isn't but
its good to see a story about Rome in its bloody glory and not. And the fact
that the boy's name was Lucius make me keep having FK musings all throughout
the movie.  Well to those who haven't seen it do.
                                    Until next time this is
                                    Nita V Signing off!*


Date:    Sun, 21 May 2000 12:43:29 -0600
From:    Cindy Wambeam <cwambeam@n.......>
Subject: timeline of show, lists, campaigns?

Hello everyone -- I  usually lurk on this list (back in the early days I
actually participated much more), but I need some help putting together a
timeline of events.

Background first:  As some of you (who I've corresponded with privately)
know, I'm writing my dissertation on fan communities and their writing.
Much of what I'm writing about has to do with Forever Knight and the
fiction/critiques/campaigns that have taken place in fan's writing.  Let me
say up front -- I am not cricizing your writing or doing literary
examinations of your fiction.  I  am simply using Forever Knight as an
example of how fans can make a difference, and how important their writing
is to the success of a fictional world.  In a few places I am quoting some
writing, and I've asked permission from those writers to do so.  I just
don't want you all thinking that I've been lurking here, watching you and
taking notes on things you write.  :>

That said:  I'm close to finishing things up, and one piece of information
that I  really need to tighten is a "timeline" -- not of the FK universe,
but of the show and the development of some of the various lists and when
FK fans started turning up at cons.  Before I put this together from my own
notes,  memories, odd bits of email...I'm wondering if this has already
been compiled.  Is there any sort of timeline on a website?  Has anyone
else put this information together?

If not, would you all mind if I  begin to take a crack at it -- I'll post
what I know, and leave some blank spots that hopefully you can help with.

Many thanks in advance,


Cindy Wambeam                                    cwambeam@n.......
English Department
New Mexico State University
Las Cruces                    http://web.nmsu.edu/~cwambeam
Audiences expand the mythologies of a creator's world.  (M. Groening)


Date:    Sun, 21 May 2000 20:46:14 +0300
From:    Juha Tuomala <jatuli@m.......>
Subject: Looking for FK-tapes

I am looking for  episodes of Forever Knight. I have only seen season 1,
because the FK-show was canceled on our TV-network after the first 2-3
months. So, at least some episodes from that season would be nice to see
for refreshing my memories. I am living in Europe (in Finland) and I
believe the format which I can see is VHS Pal. Please tell me that you
have and how much you want for it?

Juha Tuomala


Date:    Mon, 22 May 2000 11:11:02 -0400
From:    mclisa@m.......
Subject: Admin: Forkni-l rules  & Asking about tapes

Just a comment, which is a reminder that selling FK tapes is a breach of
copyright and, if the copyright owner wanted to, could get us shut down.
It's fine to ask for tapes and fine to offer them, but it's not fine to ask
for more than the cost of the tapes for dubbing and the postage. Thanks --
just trying to keep us legal. :)

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Date:    Mon, 22 May 2000 11:24:30 -0500
From:    Carla Martinek <copper6500@y.......>
Subject: Info needed for fanfic - Nat's SIL and niece's names

Brain fade...

what are Nat's sis-in-law and niece's names?



Date:    Mon, 22 May 2000 13:04:51 -0500
From:    Tim Phillips <Timp@d.......>
Subject: Re: Info needed for fanfic - Nat's SIL and niece's names

The Sister-in-law is Sarah.  The niece is Amy.

Date sent:              Mon, 22 May 2000 11:24:30 -0500
Send reply to:          Forever Knight TV show <FORKNI-L@l.......>
From:                   Carla Martinek <copper6500@y.......>
Subject:                Info needed for fanfic - Nat's SIL and niece's names
Originally to:          forkni-l@e.......
To:                     FORKNI-L@l.......

> Brain fade...
> what are Nat's sis-in-law and niece's names?
> -Carla
> copper6500@y.......

 Tim Phillips


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