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Digest - 7 Apr 2000 to 8 Apr 2000 (#2000-104)

Sat, 8 Apr 2000

There are 8 messages totalling 296 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. FK WinAmp Skinz
  2. "Tracy Vetter" <-- Real life reporter (2)
  3. VCR Alert - Ger on The Campbells
  4. YKYBWTMFKW......
  5. The Easter Blitz: Count Down to April 23rd! **16**
  6. VCR Alert -- Canada
  7. A new take on Human Factor


Date:    Sat, 8 Apr 2000 09:42:42 +0900
From:    Raven Breena <raven@n.......>
Subject: FK WinAmp Skinz

Yes, now I have FK WinAmp Skinz for download at

Just click on the "WinAmp Skinz" on the left.  You'll need WinAmp to use
them, but I like them. =)  Hope you do too.

Raven Breena
The wiccan/songwriter/story writer formerly known as Cousin Raven.
Email: raven@n.......


Date:    Fri, 7 Apr 2000 23:15:26 -0700
From:    Rayne <rayne_koest@y.......>
Subject: "Tracy Vetter" <-- Real life reporter

So I was watching the late night news from the states
(Seattle, KOMO news 4), and who should be covering a report
but a news person named Tracy Vetter, how's that for
I'm sorry to say that she doesn;t look much mike our Tracy,
but heck FK's Tracy *might've* moved stateside..<insert

I'm not sure if it is spelled the same becuase I'm not
wearing my glasses and can hardly read a thing without them
(including this).
Rayne, who is no mail these days due to exams.


Date:    Sat, 8 Apr 2000 05:15:53 -0400
From:    Lynne Ackerman <be028@f.......>
Subject: VCR Alert - Ger on The Campbells

For those who live in Canada, or who can get the Canadian History Channel,
the Campbells ep in which Ger appeared is now listed as running on:

 Tuesday 4/18/00 8:00am ET 43 HISTCAN (Canadian History Channel)
 Campbells - The Reluctant Candidate

A message from Lynne Ackerman in Toronto (or, as we like to call it,
"Hollywood North").  Via e-mail:  lynnea212@a.......  - or -  be028@t.......
                          ** Help support Forever Knight.  Ask me how. **


Date:    Sat, 8 Apr 2000 14:40:05 +0200
From:    Debi McK <vachesang@s.......>
Subject: YKYBWTMFKW......

....when you see a TV programme about veterinary surgeons, and they have a
story about a bull which ate some plant (St Johns Wort I think) which made
it super-sensitive to the sun, and it got badly sunburned and had to be kept
inside for a week, totally out of the sun, even the windows in the barn had
to be painted black.... and your first thought is that Nick should really be
more careful when he's having a snack!


Date:    Sat, 8 Apr 2000 10:20:40 -0500
From:    Kristin Harris <kris1228@s.......>
Subject: The Easter Blitz: Count Down to April 23rd! **16**

To all Forever Knight Fans!!!

April 23rd,2000 is our official Feedback blitz!!
We urge everyone with computer access to go to this site:
And let them know that you want Forever Knight back now!!!
If you have friends on other Loops/Lists, ask them to do it, let your family
members do it!!  Ask friends at work to do it!!! spread the word guys!!!
This has worked wonderfully for other fandoms and we are hopeful it will
work for us!
Use all your assorted screen names to do it,whatever you can, whoever you
can ask.Send this everyplace you can think of!!!
Also be sure to send this all weekend Fri-Sun of the 23rd! This is the most
important thing we can do, and we would ask it to continue
all day and all *Knight* of  April 23rd.

Please take today to make yourself heard to TPTB!!!


Date:    Sat, 8 Apr 2000 11:21:08 -0500
From:    Lindy Cooksey <lindy@w.......>
Subject: Re: VCR Alert -- Canada

Lynne wrote:
>For those who live in Canada, or who can get the Canadian History Channel,
>the Campbells ep in which Ger appeared is now listed as running on:
> Tuesday 4/18/00 8:00am ET 43 HISTCAN (Canadian History Channel)
> Campbells - The Reluctant Candidate

A few others that I've come across are:

Catherine Disher: The Campbells 4/10 - And In the Spring (History Channel)
                  The Campbells 4/11 - Dreams Stay with You (History Channel)

Nigel: Counterstrike 4/10 - French Twist (Showcase - 5pm)

Geordie Johnson: Spoken Art 4/12 - The Two-Headed Man (Bravo - 11am)
                         Chautauqua Girl 4/24 (Bravo 2pm)
                         The Comedy of Errors 4/26 (Bravo - 2pm)

Bernard Behrens - Katts and Dog 4/13 - Over the Hill Gang (Showcase 7:30am;


Date:    Sat, 8 Apr 2000 13:58:34 -0500
From:    Cindy Ingram <cgi271@a.......>
Subject: A new take on Human Factor

Weeeell, it's a new take for *me*, at least, even if it's old news for the
rest of you. <g>

It's something that's no doubt been hashed and re-hashed ad infinitum, but
since I've just had an epiphany of sorts, I couldn't resist sharing.

In the ep "Human Factor," I've always been of the mind that Nick didn't
tell Natalie that Janette had survived the fire and that he'd brought her
back across. (I realize there are those who feel she died in the fire, but
I'm not one of them. There are too many indications in the tag scene that
she is once again among the undead.)

Anyway, I felt Nick wouldn't know quite how to admit this to Natalie,
especially since she knows all too well how he feels about his current
state. I thought he would be too ashamed to tell her what had really
happened. While I didn't feel he would outright lie to her, I thought
perhaps he might have opted not to tell her anything, leaving her to wonder
exactly what had occured, or would gloss over it and let her assume Janette
had died.

But after watching the ep recently for the first time in a long time, I've
changed my mind. It now seems pretty darn clear to me that he *did* tell
her (although a valid case could certainly be made for both views). But I
no longer think he would mislead her about this, even by the omission of
certain facts. In truth, I think he'd feel honor bound to tell her, though
it didn't seem like they'd really had a chance to discuss it in depth. Most
likely, he just gave her the basic facts, without going into a lot of

(On the other hand, I still can't rid myself of the niggling feeling that
Natalie should have been a tad more upset than she seemed to be over Nick
having brought Janette back across. But perhaps, by the time they came face
to face at the crime scene, she'd managed to come to terms with it. And if
she had been upset or angry when she first found out, then Nick's cautious
approach when he sees her at the crime scene might very well stem from his
uncertainty about how she will respond to him.)

Regarding Nick's comment that things had been "smoothed over": Natalie's
response, "Oookay," could be a pointed reference to the fact that he didn't
really answer her question. (Meaning that she'd really been asking how
things stood between Nick and Janette.)

Then, when Nick tells Natalie he can't take that chance with her life
(attempting the cure), a look of relief and agreement flashes across her
face. She's obviously been giving it a lot of thought and (until her
desperate plea in LK) had reached the same conclusion.

Her "extraordinary circumstances" comment suggests that she doesn't
necessarily believe it would work for them anyway. That it would take just
the right combination of factors and events, some of which they might not
even be aware of, to achieve the same result. In other words, I think she
views it as a fluke. Perhaps it makes her feel better to do so, rather than
believe they could have what they wanted if only they weren't afraid to
take the chance. Or, that the only way to save Nick was to sacrifice

And jumping ahead to LK, it's very possible that she still wasn't convinced
it would work, even though she begged Nick to have "faith" enough to try
it. At that point, considering her confused mental and emotional state, she
could have viewed it as their last chance and, with that in mind, was
finally willing to take the risk, even if she didn't hold out much hope for
its success, despite what she told Nick.

Jumping back to HF again, Nick tells Nat he can't take that kind of chance
with her life. Nat seems gratified that Nick is indirectly admitting he has
feelings for her, but her response, "... and I think I'm okay with that,"
also resolves the earlier anger and resentment she seemed to feel when she
learned Janette had achieved, by accident, the ever-elusive mortality that
Natalie and Nick have worked so hard to find.

And she knows very well who killed those goons. It's written all over her
face when she shows Nick the bite marks. You'll also notice she doesn't ask
him what he plans to do about it. She knows it's a dilemma he can't
possibly resolve.

Gee, I see these things so clearly now. I must have been dozing the first
few times I watched it. <G>

Again, sorry for the re-hash, but I just love a show that continues to
surprise me and give me new things to think about even after
umpteen-jillion viewings ...

Cindy Ingram

"In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people
very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." -- Douglas Adams.


Date:    Sat, 8 Apr 2000 12:13:40 -0700
From:    "Nancy A. Taylor" <nat1228@h.......>
Subject: Re: "Tracy Vetter" <-- Real life reporter

At 11:15 PM 4/7/00 -0700, Rayne wrote:
>So I was watching the late night news from the states
>(Seattle, KOMO news 4), and who should be covering a report
>but a news person named Tracy Vetter, how's that for

Actually, her name is Vedder, but when they announce her, it sure sounds
like "Vetter". I was shocked the first time I heard it too. Talk about


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