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Digest - 27 Feb 2000 to 28 Feb 2000 (#2000-59)

Mon, 28 Feb 2000

There are 15 messages totalling 807 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Sandi Ross (Grace) project
  2. My 1999 Stories :)
  3. Website Angst
  4. Historical Conjecture
  5. My 1999 stories
  6. Week from Heck (2)
  7. Help - need a librarian
  8. Admin: Forkni-l rules
  9. 1999 fanfic stories
 10. For Your Consideration: My Stories
 11. 1999 FKFanFic Awards (plus Master Sheet) (2)
 12. 1999 FKFanFic Awards
 13. Mystery Ben Bass photo


Date:    Sun, 27 Feb 2000 17:24:20 -0500
From:    Lindy Cooksey <lindy@w.......>
Subject: Sandi Ross (Grace) project

This was in the online Toronto Star at

Setting the stage for diversity
The newly founded Obsidian Theatre Company is dedicated to the development
of the black voice in Toronto and beyond
By Robert Crew
Toronto Star Arts Writer
She's one of Canada's finest actors, has been in the biz for nearly 20
years and has starred at the Stratford Festival. Yet she's has never been
asked by Tarragon, Factory or Passe Muraille to appear in one of their
Alison Sealy-Smith is black.
After three critically acclaimed seasons at Stratford, she wasn't asked
back. ``They fired my butt,'' she says bluntly.
Why? Because she'd joined the festival at the top end of the ladder.
``They would've had to have given me more leading roles and treated me as
though I was a Lucy Peacock in the making. They weren't prepared to do
that. I don't know what their reasoning was.''
Possibly it had something to do with the reluctance of theatres in general
to hire and promote black actors because they believe - rightly or wrongly
- that audiences won't like it.
Such fears are fanned by quirky hate mail. Stratford artistic director
Richard Monette received one such letter in 1994, Sealy-Smith's final year
and the one in which she played Olivia in Twelfth Night.
As Sealy-Smith tells it, the letter sympathized with Monette for not being
able to find enough qualified, talented black artists to work on the
Stratford main stage but said he shouldn't feel too badly.
The problem, said the letter, was that black people's jaws are hinged
differently and this was the reason they couldn't manage classical text.
It's a horrifying story, although Sealy-Smith laughs the letter off and
dismisses such bigotry as atypical.
But it is this sort of roadblock, and dozens more like it, that have
inspired the birth of a new theatre company.
If all goes to plan, Obsidian Theatre Company, which is dedicated to the
exploration, development and production of the black voice on the world
stage, will launch its first season of two plays in repertory in the spring
of 2001.
And it is inviting all theatregoers to joining them this Monday in a
celebration and fund-raising drive at Factory Theatre, 125 Adelaide St.
Admission is free, and there will be entertainment and a cash bar.
Sealy-Smith is the company's artistic director, and Sandi Ross, another
widely experienced actor/administrator, is the general manager. Founding
members include D'Janet Sears, Yanna McIntosh, Philip Akin, David Collins,
Diane Roberts and Roy Lewis.
Other Toronto companies dedicated to black theatre have come and gone. The
pioneering Black Theatre Canada, led by Vera Cudjoe and Jeff Henry, closed
in the late 1980s. Theatre Fountainhead shut down a couple of years later.
We Are One and Theatre Wum seem to be hibernating.
`Why do we need a new theatre company such as Obsidian?
``Too many stories that weren't being told,'' replies Sealy-Smith crisply.
``A lot of talent that wasn't being showcased enough. A lot of senior
actors who were feeling the glass ceiling right over their heads.
``We needed to pool our resources. It was time that we took responsibility
for ourselves.
``The pattern has been that we either stand outside the door of a theatre
or a resource, asking to be let in and given an opportunity to develop and
tell our stories, or we have tried to do it ourselves but with a real
paucity of resources, which has resulted in lack of quality.''
``When was the last time you saw an August Wilson play in Toronto?''
demands Ross. ``Yet he is a Pulitzer-prize winner.
``We are not getting the range of roles, the kind of plays that would
challenge me at this stage of my life, after 20 or 30 years in the
``If we can't get Canadian Stage, which does plays from all over the world
to include us at the big house (the Bluma Appel Theatre), nor the little
house (26 Berkeley), then we have to take that responsibility.''
Sealy-Smith, who is originally from Barbados, and Ross, who came to Canada
from Minnesota, are all too aware of the difficulties ahead.
And that's why they are taking a year to build the infrastructure of the
new company, to raise funds, write grant applications, select plays and
find offices and somewhere to perform.
Because the company is looking at plays with large casts, Ross would like
to find a theatre with 350-400 seats. (Eventually Obsidian would like to
own its own space.)
``The one thing we know we are not doing is going into somebody's
Extraspace or Backspace,'' adds Sealy-Smith. ``This ain't a Backspace kinda
The budget for that first season? They are still working on it. But one of
the two plays will be from the international repertoire (possibly an August
Wilson), the other will be Canadian.
While focusing on writers of African descent, the company will also tackle
the classics - Shakespeare, Shaw, Albee and Michel Tremblay are just some
of the names Ross and Sealy-Smith toss out.
Ross would dearly love to do a Tremblay play ``and I am never going to do
one unless I do it with Obsidian.''
Sealy-Smith wants to do more Shakespeare: ``It was part of the culture I
grew up in Barbados. I come to it fairly naturally.
``It is amazing to hear people of Caribbean descent speaking Shakespeare's
language because I find they are more fluent than a lot of North
How about the charge that they may be creating a ``ghetto'' out of the
theatrical mainstream by establishing a black theatre company?
``I know it is something we have to address,'' says Sealy-Smith. ``At the
same time, there's part of me that gets a little resentful because this
group of people doesn't even have the colour of their skin in common. It
comes in every hue of brown and beige.
``Why is it that we are perceived as this little homogeneous group that's
off in a corner? Our founding members come from England, Jamaica, Barbados,
Trinidad, Canada, Africa, the United States. The cultural agendas are
different, the historical backgrounds are different.
``I find myself wondering if Soulpepper got this kind of question. Bet that
was something they didn't ask that (guy) Albert Schultz!''
Sealy-Smith and Ross chuckle at the comparison.
``A group of Soulpepper people got together and they opened up their
wallets and they raised $20,000,'' says Ross, laughing. ``We got together
and we opened up our wallets and we raised $200.''
Nonetheless, they are grateful to Soulpepper, a troupe founded in 1998 by a
group of stage actors and devoted to the classics, which has been ``very
helpful'' with advice on how to avoid certain mistakes.
Like Soulpepper, Obsidian wants share its experience and to mentor younger
theatre artists. They'd like to import a guest director for the first
season who would then be shadowed by an ``apprentice.''
Dreams include intern and playwrights-in-residence programs, even
cross-Canada and international tours.
But first comes the problem of survival beyond the first year.
``This theatre will in some way sink or swim depending on how it is
embraced by the larger theatre community,'' says Sealy-Smith.
``The novelty will wear off and unless people buy into our vision, we will
put up a couple of good shows and then die.
``Obsidian wants to rise to the challenge of making sure that our stories
get told. But that does not negate the responsibility of other theatres to
reflect the city of which they are a part.''


Date:    Sun, 27 Feb 2000 15:14:46 -0800
From:    "Miranda (AC Tong)" <specmir@h.......>
Subject: My 1999 Stories :)

Well, I might as well jump into the band wagon, seeing that I won't be
writing much in 2000

Blue Jeans, and A Pick Up Truck
Fly Away
Forever Flatulance
Forever Popsicles
For The Loft
A Gentle Goodbye
Goodbye Nicholas
In An Exhausted Mood
My Dearest Beloved
Nat *AND* Tracy Are Where?!
Nicholas' Barney Fears
Recipes for the FK Soul: FK Drinks
Recipes for the FK Soul: My Mission
A Valentine's Monologue
Was There Forever
Stepping into Y2K with a Stranger

All of these can be found on fkfanfic.com under Miranda LaCroix or
Miranda. There are some exceptions in there, and there might be some not
even on the list at all. Feel free to nominate :)

Miranda  Level 2 AC Tong
RCAC 692 Air Canada Squadron
Falcon Flight Rocks!!!


Date:    Sun, 27 Feb 2000 18:21:43 -0700
From:    Kyer <kyer@p.......>
Subject: Website Angst

Nick:  So how goes the FK website building?
Kyer: <points to Dark Squirette who is sitting on top of the crt unit,
jabbing at the smoking screen, (sporting a tattered picture of Mr. Gates
taped on it), with a wooden stake while chanting:  "Die!  Die! Evil Spawn!
Die!" over and over.
It appears that now we need some sort of Java software and a MS Virtual
Machine, but can't find a working link to them.
Nick:  Oh. <hastily departs to visit safer companions to be around for the
night---like LaCroix and Divia.>

Scowled,  >: (=
Kyer, kyer@p.......
I'm in a *foul* mood brothers and sisters---and I'm not talking poultry.
e-mail at your own risk....


Date:    Sun, 27 Feb 2000 21:53:36 EST
From:    Laudon1965@a.......
Subject: Historical Conjecture

We know from "A More Permanent Hell" that Lucius was supposed to have been a
Roman General in Gaul when he returned to Pompeii in 79 A.D.  We know that
this is an historical anachronism, as the Gauls had been conquered and
patriated by Julius Caesar one hundred years before.

Watching "66 A.D.: the Last Revolt" on A&E today, makes me wonder if it might
have been far more likely for a younger Lucius to have served under General
Vespasian, then his son Titus, in putting down the Jewish revolt that began
in 66 A.D.  As that war was Vespasian's springboard to Imperial rule, could
it not also have been Lucius' route to generalship?  IMO, it is plausible
that Lucius could have earned notice serving under Vespasian in Judea, and
been remembered by him as Vespasian rose to take the seat of power of the
Roman Empire.  Thus it would have been far more likely, IMO, given what was
happening in the world at the time, that Lucius would have been returning to
Pompeii from his command of the legions in the that ravaged Palestine
starting in 66 A.D.

I also wonder if the writers of FK knew full well that the Gaul business was
an anachronism, but feared alienating viewers by placing Lucius in the most
likely situation given the events of the time: as the instrument of Rome's
destruction of Jewish and early Christian Judea.

Just thinking and wondering YMMV

Laurie of the Isles


Date:    Mon, 28 Feb 2000 00:51:23 EST
From:    DanaKnight@a.......
Subject: My 1999 stories

Here's a list of my stories posted in 1999, if I've left out any, please let
me know. I apologize for those getting this several times.

A Peek Inside
The Power of Dreams
Shall We Dance?
Surprise Request
Hot Chocolate Anyone?
Valentine's Day Blues, and how to fix them
A Little Fun with Nick and Nat
"Man's Crisis of Identity During the Latter Half of the 20th Century"

Ones I don't remember the title to, any help would be greatly appreciated.
One with Tracy stuck in her pants
The one from the NNP mini con contest - LC dies
any others I posted but forgot

What year did Devastation get posted in?

PS I've listed all the fiction I've done since 1995 if anyone is interested
(and probably left out one or two).


Date:    Sun, 27 Feb 2000 23:03:32 -0700
From:    Kyer <kyer@p.......>
Subject: Week from Heck

I'm going to go climb into bed and pull the covers over my head and wish the
world away.
On top of all else this demonic week has done to me---at work and play---my
computer just ate the last half (and only unbacked up portion) of my last
fic part.  I can't understand it.  It was saved.  I only opened it to do a
quick check before sending to beta, when the Wordpad window froze and told
me to wait.  and wait.  and wait.  Had to CAD to escape, but returning just
gives the same problem.  Everything else is hunky-dory.  Just this story
page that is "open", yet "can't find".  I'm stressed.  I'll try to rewrite,
but now I'm paranoid this will strike again.  Is it a sign my computer is
dying?---system checks and virus scans turn up okay.
Somebody please tell me this is just something that happens and I'm not
about to crash.  I mean the computer---*I* am already in mid crash.

Too high-bloodpressured to even *try* to be funny.
Kyer, kyer@p........


Date:    Mon, 28 Feb 2000 07:00:32 -0500
From:    Stephanie Kellerman <stephke@i.......>
Subject: Re: Week from Heck


I don't know if wordpad will do the same thing that word will do, but don't do a
CAD, just push the button and turn the pc off.  A lot of times it will save the
file in a temp file that starts with ~.

"The sea..where each man, as in a mirror, finds himself", Richard Basehart as
"If you obey all the rules, you miss all the fun."  Katherine Hepburn


Date:    Mon, 28 Feb 2000 07:25:05 PST
From:    Susan Cuthbertson <suzicuth@h.......>
Subject: Re: Help - need a librarian

I am forwarding your request to one of our documents people here at the
University of Wyo. His name is Colin Toenjes. I deal mainly with newspapers.

suzicuth@h....... or suzicuth@uwyo.edu
"According to our records,
the world did not begin in 1988"--UMI poster


Date:    Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:04:03 -0500
From:    mclisa@m.......
Subject: Admin: Forkni-l rules

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Date:    Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:00:31 -0500
From:    Cindy Ingram <cgi271@a.......>
Subject: 1999 fanfic stories

Okay, jumping on the bandwagon here ... <g>

Cherry Blossoms, Trouble Blooms
Department of Fate
Heart's Desire
If At First You Don't Succeed
Selective Hearing
Subconsciously Speaking
Through the Fire
What Goes Around, Comes Around

1999 FILKS:
My Vamp
Don't Rain on My Crusade

For anyone who's interested, these stories, along with efforts from
previous years, can be found on my fanfic page at:


Cindy Ingram

"In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people
very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." -- Douglas Adams.


Date:    Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:22:14 -0600
From:    "Nancy E. Kaminski" <nancykam@m.......>
Subject: For Your Consideration: My Stories

Hi, All --

Following the general trend, everything I've written is archived at my
website. You can find it at:


Cheers, Nancy

Nancy E. Kaminski , Technical Writer/Editor
Fairview Health Services, Minneapolis, MN USA
(612) 672-6882 phone, (612) 672-6083 fax
nkamins1@f....... | nancykam@m.......
"Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so." -- Douglas Adams


Date:    Mon, 28 Feb 2000 08:44:45 -0800
From:    Steve Hood <nexus_dragon@y.......>
Subject: 1999 FKFanFic Awards (plus Master Sheet)

You know. I was reading through the lists and looking
at all the stories and stuff written in the past year.
And it suddenly occurred to me we're all letting
everyone know what's been done by us, but it's all
seperated by each individual author.

And since we all like to showcase our work and help
contribute as a whole, I think a nice master sheet of
authors and author works would go a long way to help
out everyone and let them see what's out there.

So I've compiled a 1999 Master Sheet. There's a few
authors who've posted what they've done that I'm
missing (Kylie, I know you posted but I don't have

There's a couple of reasons for this. The first one is
the amount of posts that go out. We never are quite
sure who's going to read the post and see the
wonderful stories we've done.

The second reason (and more practical one), is our
wonderful listserv hostess, the great and esteemable
McLisa, is probably non-plussed about the massive
amount of posts to story exposure. I'm not quite sure
about the rules regarding promotion- but it would
probably help her out alot if we organized and put out
a Master Sheet listing all authors and author works.

Three, wouldn't it be great to know everyone will see
& read the list of stuff you've done in 1999? Having a
Master Sheet of stories written in the past year would
also help out in terms having one place to look to see
what's available for nomination.

So without further adieu - the Master Sheet:

Master Sheet - Compilation of stories written in 1999

author: Cousin Raven

author: Llarian
Chance Encounter In The Morgue
Chance Encounter At The Raven

and at least "Morgue" can also be found in Mel's
wonderful archive.

author: Nancy Taylor

Laurene series:
Valentine Reflections (Adult1)
Things That Go Bump in The Night
Be My Valentine (Adult2)
The Sunrise

(And if you're voting for favorite original character,
don't forget Laurene. <g>)

That 'Ol Black Magic
The Assault (Adult2)
The Aftermath (Adult2)
Caddywhacked (Adult2)

All of these, and my historic stories can be found at
my website:
http://members.home.net/nat1228/fkfanfic.htm  Most can
also be found at Mel's site.

author: Claude

Children - The Little Bundles Of Joy
Whither Now?
Spring Break
Janette At Noon

They're all xovers and are archived at

author: Libby

The Audition (ADULT!!!)

I'm hoping it is in the JADFE archives but I don't
have the page marked to find out.

author: Gwenn Musicanti

"Lightning Always Strikes Twice"
"The Path Not Taken"
A Poem-  "You Could Have Said I Love You Just Once"

All can be found at Mel's spectacular site:

author: Tyra

General Fic:
Monsieur Grumpy
The Morning After
To Be Honest, Buttercup... <or Ode to Sue>

Adult Fic:
Circles Unbroken
Pleasure Choices
Hurried Passion
Two's Company, but Three's a Crowd
Unleashed Desire

New Dawn


author: Sharon Robinson

        Love Lost


author: Catherine Foster

        A Question of the Soul


author: Emma Lighton

Shattered Dreams
Saturday Night Boredom
The Burial of the Dead
Lest We Forget
All of the Time
Lacroix vs. Web based E-mail
3am Revelations
A Change of Seasons
I'd Like to Make a Request
If I Go Away
Silk and Shadows (Adult)

A Conversation
Unwelcome Guest
Whispers in the Dark (Adult)
Day of Reckoning

Coroner's Lab

Some of these are available on the FTP site, most of
them are on Mel's site. All of them are on my site,
and I fixed all the typos I could find on those.

author: Ren

The End of the Innocence
LaCroix's Night Out
Letting 'er Rip Before Last Call
The Scent of Lillies

They all are up at the Magnificent Mel's site and at
my page

author: Miranda LaCroix

Blue Jeans, and A Pick Up Truck
Fly Away
Forever Flatulance
Forever Popsicles
For The Loft
A Gentle Goodbye
Goodbye Nicholas
In An Exhausted Mood
My Dearest Beloved
Nat *AND* Tracy Are Where?!
Nicholas' Barney Fears
Recipes for the FK Soul: FK Drinks
Recipes for the FK Soul: My Mission
A Valentine's Monologue
Was There Forever
Stepping into Y2K with a Stranger

All of these can be found on fkfanfic.com under
Miranda LaCroix or Miranda. There are some exceptions
in there, and there might be some not even on the list
at all.

author: Dana Knight

A Peek Inside
The Power of Dreams
Shall We Dance?
Surprise Request
Hot Chocolate Anyone?
Valentine's Day Blues, and how to fix them
A Little Fun with Nick and Nat
"Man's Crisis of Identity During the Latter Half of
the 20th Century"

author: Steve Hood

"Agenda" (pt. 1)
"My Father's Keeper" (pt. 2)
"Darkness Unveiled: The Nightcrawler Interview"

All the stories are archived over at:

"Agenda" & "Darkness Unveiled: The Nightcrawler
Interview" are also archived at Melís kick-ass,
awesome site! www.fkfanfic.com

"Dragons never die. They just get more silly every day!"
   -that insane guy, Steve, yes, I think his name is

"Pesky things, dragons are.
Somehow I just didn't see it coming
What did I miss?????"


Date:    Mon, 28 Feb 2000 13:58:03 -0500
From:    Rosemary Beard <rjb1274@a.......>
Subject: Re: 1999 FKFanFic Awards

For what its worth, I have one story that I posted in 1999.
It was the 4th in a series I wrote using LaCroix and a character I developed
named Claire.
Its title is "A Mother always knows" and is archived both on Mel's site, and
my own fiction site.

**"What's worn underneath a kilt?
Nothing! Everything is in perfect working order."
-Eric Idle**

Everyone is entitled to their own opinon........
even if they are wrong!


Date:    Tue, 29 Feb 2000 08:42:56 +1300
From:    Knightraven <knightraven@c.......>
Subject: Re: 1999 FKFanFic Awards (plus Master Sheet)

Fine idea Steve! Maybe next year we will ge a little organized, yeah?:)



Date:    Mon, 28 Feb 2000 14:56:52 -0500
From:    Allie Percy <allie@g.......>
Subject: Mystery Ben Bass photo

OK, who won an autographed Ben Bass photo on eBay and had it sent to
my P.O. box instead??

Will the mystery donor please fess up off-list.

You can remain anonymous if you want but I am wondering if this is a
donation for a charity event or just an effort by some Vaquera to win
me over to the Blinky Side of the Force.  ;-)

Maybe someone warned me this would be coming but my memory is like a
sieve, and it arrived without any indication of who the donor was nor
even any e-mail address to contact the eBay vendor.

Thank you.  And now back to your regularly scheduled list antics.

Allie (allie@g.......)


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