FORKNI-L
Digest - 12 Feb 2000 to 13 Feb 2000 (#2000-44)
Sun, 13 Feb 2000
There are 24 messages totalling 783 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. fan fic survey
2. FK Alumni
3. Latest "Kickstart The Knight "address list
4. The CAR (was: Re: Vampire sight) (2)
5. Just curious (9)
6. Greenish Caddy (was 'Vampire Sight")
7. Layout of the loft? (2)
8. FK reruns
9. Is it just me?
10. Lacroix or Nick
11. NB in "Hamlet" (3)
12. New list member
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Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 17:08:06 EST
From: Libratsie@a.......
Subject: fan fic survey
A friend of mine is conducting a survey concerning fanfic. She's a Forever
Knight fanfic writer, and has archived some stories at her websites,
including my own. I think this survey is important enough that I'm
forwarding along the url. I know fanfic is EXTREMELY popular, but often the
authors don't hear feedback until they are not longer writing it out of
frustration, or their fanfic website is taken down. Besides, the survey, I
thought, was rather fun. So pop over to:
http://users.lanminds.com/~callalily/fkfic/index.html
It only takes a minute or so (I swear!)
Forever Knight fan fic is playing a big part in keeping the show alive in the
hearts of fan. I can thank of several examples I've heard where people were
introduced to the show through fan fiction. In many cases I've heard fans
who thought the show (along with its fandom) was dead were overwhelmed with
delight to find out how much fan fic and how many fans are out here.
--Libs
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Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 14:34:57 -0800
From: "AC Tong (Miranda)" <specmir@h.......>
Subject: FK Alumni
For all those people in Vancouver who are at home and online right now..
Catherine Disher's Psi Factor ep will be in the second half of a Psi
Factor first season ep that starts in 27 minutes... (3pm, PST) on
Global.
And for later, Nigel Bennett's Nikita ep: "New Regime" will be on
Saturday February 19th, at 11pm on CHEK 6.
Tomorrow's VTV FK will be "The Fix" Yay!! :) :)
--
Miranda Level 2 AC Tong
specmir@h.......
http://www.flarn.com/miranda/
RCAC 692 Air Canada Squadron
Falcon Flight Rocks!!!
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Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 17:56:51 EST
From: SField8067@a.......
Subject: Latest "Kickstart The Knight "address list
This is posted with permission from Lisa and Don. :)
This is the most up to date list.please disregard earlier address lists you
might have.
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Write for the Knight! (this section is for snail mail writers! (very
important to keep doing!)
Let’s redouble our efforts and really let "The Powers That Be" know that we
want more Forever Knight! The main idea is to be honest. Tell them your age,
where you live, how long you've been watching Forever Knight and how much
you'd like to see it back on TV. Do not, however, put anything on the
envelope that might indicate you are a FK fan or are writing about the show.
These letters are often considered "fannish" and you run the risk of being
ignored.Be business-like...explain why you're writing and why you think it
will be profitable to have the show back in production. Tell them what kind
of Forever Knight merchandise you have bought, and what you would like to
buy. BUT TELL THEM YOU WANT MORE FOREVER KNIGHT!
For more FK :
Edgar Bronfman Jr.
CEO & President
The Seagram Co. Ltd.
375 Park Avenue
New York, NY 10152-0192
Stephen Chao ***** (VERY IMPORTANT #)*****
USA Networks
2049 Century Park E, Ste. 2550
Los Angeles, CA 90067
Bonnie Hammer**** (VERY IMPORTANT #)*****
Executive Vice President and General Manager of the Sci-Fi Channel
Sci Fi Channel
1230 Avenue of the Americas
New York, NY 10020
Mel Harris
Chief Operating Officer-Television
Sony Pictures Entertainment
10202 W. Washington Blvd.
Culver City,CA 90
For more FK merchandise:
Marci Gordon
Sony Product Development
TriStar Building, 3rd Fl.
10102 W. Washington Blvd.
Culver City, CA 90232
800-Trekker
P.O. Box 13131
Reading, PA 19612-3131
For more FK books:
Grace Ressler
Publishing Manager
Sony Signatures
TriStar Building, 3rd Fl.
10202 W. Washington Blvd.
Culver City, CA 90232
Boulevard Books
The Berkley Publishing Group
200 Madison Avenue
New York, NY 10016
For FK on video:
Columbia House Video Library
1400 Fruitridge Avenue
Terre Haute, IN 47811
For fans in the U.K.:
Customer Relations Department
British Sky Broadcasting PLC
Subscriber Management Centre
P.O. Box 43
Livingston
West Lothion
EH54 7DD
SCOTLAND
The Sci Fi Channel
77 Charlotte Street
London
W1P 2DD
ENGLAND
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*****WEBSITES TO HELP THE KNIGHT!!!*********
The Valentine Petition is over, but will be continued as a monthly petition.
Each month Susan Ellen Field (KTK) will be sending this in to important
powers,
such as Bonnie Hammer and Stephen Chao. If you have already signed, then
just spread the word to others who have not. Also, if you have a FK page
please feel free to help by posting the new banner I made on your pages.
For more info click on the new banner off my main page.
Thanks!
Kristin
http://members.xoom.com/forever_nick/Forever_Knight
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Forever Knight is now #2 on the Global 100 Charts!! We're doing GREAT! Next
month at the rate it is climbing we should easily hit #1! It also has a
star, which means a large votes increase, and a bullet, meaning it's
climbing up to the top fast! Please keep up the voting everyone, and
remember you can go back to renew your votes. Try to strive to be a High
Level voter too (can vote up to 30 points).
Keep it up and our beloved Knight will be #1!!
This is the last Calculation:
Calculation Point 11-Feb-00 02:30
Total Of Raw Votes 545
Finalized Points 79177
Unofficial Position 1
Success Rate 100%
Voting Address: http://www.global100.com/item.asp?Item=51259
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There is another way to show TPTB how much you would like the FK
returned....
Thought Up By wonderful devoted fans such as yourselves.....
It's called "Operation Postcard Overload" as was told to Susan Field, "When
we all send letters to Sci-Fi/USA, we get postcards back, so why not send
postcards to them?" Its easy! Postcards are everyplace! How about postcards
representing the places you live? England, Austrailia, Germany, USA, all the
different states......
FK fans are all over the globe! Lets show TPTB that the World wants it
back!!!
Send the cards to:
Bonnie Hammer and Stephen Chao (addresses above)
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******E-mail #'s to help the cause!*******
(Just for the record) these websites are not to be confused with any of the
"vote for your favorite this or that, these sites are very important to the
cause!)
Write everyone! E-mail's a quick, easy way! Spend that hour, you'd normally
be watching FK writing a letter(s) to Sci-fi at this address:
feedback@w.......
Why don't we make this a daily thing? Every day when Forever Knight should
be on at its time slot we e-mail Sci-fi about putting it back. Just a
thought, but if we ALL do it, it may just help get them to notice us,
especially if they start getting tons of e-mail at that hour.
http://www.ktk.op.nu (the official Kickstart The Knight Website)
This is where to go for all the latest happenings in the world of FK!!!(Just
updated!)
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This is where the Sci Fi channel personell go to address
programming issues
and to hear what fans have to say. One way to get some attention is to hit
that board with posts about how much we want FK back AND how much we want it
to stay running in the mean time. We can post new messages, even sign a post
there like we did with post 1000. One note however is that new posts are
saved alphabetically on that board so a new original post to the board will
not appear exactly at the bottom of the last page (just remember that).
Arcblade has already started a post there that we can all "sign" or drop a
note to detailing that we want Sci-Fi to sink its teeth into an effort to
revive the show AND to keep running the re-runs in the meantime. The post
strand is at:
http://www.scifi.com/bboard/browse.cgi/1/5/1498
PLEASE EVERYONE SIGN! And also spread the word to other lists or newsgroups,
just let everyone know! The Knight must continue, along with NEW episodes!!
And for anyone that is would like to make phone calls........
(212)-408-9100-for Sci Fi
(212) -413-5000-programming dept.
(note these are New York #'s......)
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I think i have covered all the important #'s. if anyone knows more to add
that you feel would be important, please send them to me at:
SField8067@a.......
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please everyone!! lets make TPTB know that we are NOT going away!! that we
wont stop till we get what we want!
all the best,
Susan Ellen Field
Kickstart The Knight
SField8067@a.......
(never give up! never surrender!)
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Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 15:58:43 -0700
From: Kyer <kyer@p.......>
Subject: The CAR (was: Re: Vampire sight)
Wrote KnightWitch:> Careful...you're going to get us CaddyWhackers teed off.
The car is the main> prop used in the show. It's gets our 'guy' from crime
scenes and the morgue.
LOL!
Makes me wonder about that old puzzler: If two of your loved ones were
drowning and you could only save one....
So who would the CaddyWhackers save from certain true death/terminable rust?
<eg> Nick or THE CAR?
Kyer
kyer@p.......
who likewise loves the Caddy...and the fireplace mantle, and the JoA cross,
and the entertainment center, and the motorcycle, and those green-bottle
corks, and....
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Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 16:21:12 -0700
From: Kyer <kyer@p.......>
Subject: Re: Just curious
> I was wondering how many
> >other people have had FK permeate even to their dreamlife.
I wish I remembered a lot more of my dreams... especially if they are wacky.
(It's rather annoying to know that your subconscious is having all sorts of
fun without you.)
I seem to remember the angsty dreams real well, though...
[seen 3rd person] Nick was running away from an unknown vampire who turned
out to be...himself. This intrigued me so much that I'm actually
incorporating some of the idea into my fic.
Anybody else have a dream that inspired you to write or change an already
worked out plot?
Kyer
kyer@p.......
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Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 01:18:57 +0100
From: Maria Wiberg <marwib@h.......>
Subject: Re: Just curious
Kyer wrote:
> Anybody else have a dream that inspired you to write or change an already
> worked out plot?
>
Yes, very much so. I had a dream only a week ago that made me start writing a
story immediately. Well, I've done 23 pages as of now and I'm still inspired. I
don't think I've ever been this obsessed over a story.
You'll see the result on a ficlist near you in the future, watch for
"The Enforcer".
:o)
Maria
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Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 19:37:44 EST
From: Laudon1965@a.......
Subject: Re: Just curious
In a message dated 02/12/2000 1:08:47 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
darius4evr@h....... writes:
<< Just the other day I dreamed I was Nick, caught in an intense fight with the
Hunger. I don't know who I/he was struggling not to bite but I woke up with
the Bloodlust roaring in my ears, and if I had fangs, they would have been
fully extended! >>
That sounds really cool, as close as any of us will come to understanding
what it's like for our Vamps. Thanks for sharing this.
Laurie of the Isles
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Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 19:50:59 EST
From: Libratsie@a.......
Subject: Re: Just curious
The weirdest FK dream I ever had may sound kind of R rated, but believe me it
wasn't or I wouldn't post it here! LOL!
Anyway, in it, I was stretched out across my bed fully clothed, and Screed,
also fully clothed, was chewing on my big toe. If that wasn't weird enough,
the front door opens and then my mother enters my room. (What makes this even
weirder to me is that my parents NEVER enter my house without knocking, plus
I normally have the door latched)
My mother gets this unbelievably stunned look on her face (well, who wouldn't
if they walked in and Screed was chewing on their daughter's big toe).
In the dream, I look up at my mother and say something, perfectly calmly,
along the lines of, "It's okay, Mom, he only slurps rats."
I'm betting that the deep seated meaning behind this dream is that it is okay
for someone to chew on your big toe as long as the main part of their diet is
rats.
--Libs
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Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 17:02:22 PST
From: Gwenn Musicante <gwennm@h.......>
Subject: Re: Greenish Caddy (was 'Vampire Sight")
<< Actually, having the caddy in that color is part of Nick's
penance.>>
LOL. That was hysterically funny! I haven't laughed this hard for a long
while. Now we know how bad Nick has really been in his past lives!
Gwenn
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Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 17:09:21 PST
From: Gwenn Musicante <gwennm@h.......>
Subject: Re: Just curious
<<In recent weeks I've had two FK-related dreams. I was wondering <<how
many other people have had FK permeate even to their dreamlife.
Laurie of the Isles
Are you kidding, I get some of my best ideas for fan fiction through my
dreams. But last night took the cake, I dreamt that I picked up the morning
newspaper, and there was an article that said that the fane have brought
back the vampire show of Forever Knight again. Waking up was such a
disappointment.
Gwenn
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Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 20:05:59 -0600
From: Kalira Isbell <KaliraRael@w.......>
Subject: Re: Just curious
Laurie of the Isles wrote:
<<I was wondering how many other people have had FK permeate even to
their dreamlife.>>
Add me to the count!
Kalira
Dark Knightie, Caddywhack, Nick's Harem, FK Pagan, GWDFC, DMZ, KiD
KaliraRael@w.......
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Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 22:21:25 -0500
From: Diane Harris <dharris@h.......>
Subject: Layout of the loft?
Ack! I'm writing a story and I've gotten completely turned around. Awhile
ago on this list, there was a discussion of the layout of the loft and a URL
was given that had a picture of the loft's layout on it. Does anyone
remember where this is? If not, I need an overview of the upstairs part of
Nick's loft. More specifically, where is the bathroom and how does one get
there? Through the bedroom? Or is there another door?
Thanks for the help!
Diane (dharris@h.......)
Hopeless NNPacker with strong Knightie / Dark Knightie tendencies and a hint
of FoDs for good measure...
www.his.com/~eschmid/Homepage.htm
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Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 21:29:51 -0600
From: CLone Star Software <cstar@a.......>
Subject: Re: Layout of the loft?
The floor plans may be found at : http://www.crosswinds.net/~nat1228/loft.htm
Hope this helps!
Marci c
At 10:21 PM 2/12/2000 -0500, Diane wrote:
> (Snip)URL
>was given that had a picture of the loft's layout on it. Does anyone
>remember where this is?
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Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 00:13:33 EST
From: KnghtWtch@a.......
Subject: Re: The CAR (was: Re: Vampire sight)
In a message dated 00-02-12 18:11:22 EST, you write:
>
> LOL!
> Makes me wonder about that old puzzler: If two of your loved ones were
> drowning and you could only save one....
>
That would depend on the loved one in reference to. Of course the car is
worth quite a bit on the classic car market., say $35,000 to $50,000 if
you've got the money. So it would be a tough decision. {he-he-he LOLROTF}
KnightWitch ;-]]]]]]]=
Have you seen the comerical for Nordstrum's shoes where a women is crushing a
59 red Caddy to make room for her shoes in the garage. It makes me cry
everytime I see it.
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Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 00:45:54 EST
From: EnidKnight@a.......
Subject: Re: Just curious
Are you kidding? FK, or other FK related things always sneak into my sleepy
dreamtime. Sometimes as nightmares, sometimes....<g>...not.
Enid Rodriguez
GWDFC, G5 Attendee, Survivor of War 10, Enforcer, Harem Wife.
EnidKnight@a......., LadyEnid@h......., ICQ# 32735791
"Four beers, a little James Brown and you can't keep me off the tables."
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Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 22:09:54 -0800
From: Rayne <rayne_koest@y.......>
Subject: Re: FK reruns
> >FK is on 7 days a week in Vancouver :) >
> Hmmmmm......Vancouver, eh? You even have fairly decent
> winter weather in
> Vancouver, don't you?
Yup, the lower mainland and Vancouver Island are the
mildest in Canada. Schanke would not have *any* snow to
shovel, and Nick wouldn't have to worry about pretending
the cold bothered him. It was 9 degrees (that's about 49 F)
here today, the crocuses are starting to come up, and there
are blossoms on the (outdoor) cherry trees in the Dr. Sen
Yatsun gdns..... Of course 20 min from downtown you can go
skiing too. We've had about 5 days of snow, with no more
than 2" each day.
Everyone else (in Canada) laughs when I tell them I mowed
my lawn on Christmas day.
<grin>
-Rayne, (who has unwritten fic in mind where some FK TOites
escape the cold to Victoria & Vancouver)
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Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 22:13:07 -0800
From: Rayne <rayne_koest@y.......>
Subject: Re: Just curious
> I was
> wondering how many
> other people have had FK permeate even to their
> dreamlife.
Oh, oh, <Rayne waves madly>, I have!!!! LOTS of em.
<shakes head> Talk about "ykybwtmfkw".
~Rayne
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Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 22:17:38 -0800
From: "AC Tong (Miranda)" <specmir@h.......>
Subject: Is it just me?
Is it just me or is the music in "The City" mostly Forever Knight Music?
I mean, if the characters are in a bar or in a club they have FK Club
music playing. There was a scene a few weeks ago and I swear they were
playing: "Touch The Night" or something, and now, when I'm watching
tonight's episode, the beginning starts off with that other FK Club
song... Then when the intense scenes come, it sounds like intense scene
music from FK..
Does anyone know where all this music is from?
--
Miranda Level 2 AC Tong
specmir@h.......
http://www.flarn.com/miranda/
RCAC 692 Air Canada Squadron
Falcon Flight Rocks!!!
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Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 02:52:17 -0500
From: Sandra Gray <sandragray@r.......>
Subject: Re: Lacroix or Nick
Rosemary wrote:
>I was just wondering who had more on screen kills. Was it Lacroix or Nick. In
>DK1&2, Lacroix killed three/possibly four-The guard, the doctor, the museum
>professor and Nick? Nick has killed in "the Field" while doing police work
>and flashbacks. Who has more?
Do you mean kills by biting or ordinary killing? Someone once
tried to total the vampire kills, but I don't know if that person
is still on this list or not. I don't know the answer.
>While I am at it, by consensus (other than LK for being the last) which is
>the worst episode you have seen?
I don't know if you'll really get a *consensus* since that would
mean a lot of people would pick the same episode. Leaving out LK,
the only episode I hated was Father's Day, which tried to reduce
the relationship between Nick and LC to just father and son (imo).
>Finally, assuming (and yes, I remember the odd couple and know that one
>should never assume....) that LK is a dream sequence, whose is it?
I wish I could assume that LK is a dream sequence. It seemed
all too real to me. But it it was a dream, I'd vote for it
being Nick's dream.
>Has any aired episode referred to Natalie as smelling of either cloves,
>cinnamon or roses?
Not that I remember.
--Sandra Gray, forever Knightie
--sandragray@r.......
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Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 09:24:06 +0100
From: Llarian <manulanger@t.......>
Subject: Re: Just curious
><<In recent weeks I've had two FK-related dreams. I was wondering <<how
>many other people have had FK permeate even to their dreamlife.
I, too, get some of my fanfiction ideas from dreams.
Now you know that I'm truly weird...
Llarian
mailto:manulanger@t.......
Join the SciFi-Crossover-Webring at:
http://home.tronet.de/manulanger/index.html
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Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 08:24:16 -0400
From: Robert Gillis <ap840@c.......>
Subject: NB in "Hamlet"
Hi, folks! The Halifax Daily News and the Halifax Herald both have reviews
of "Hamlet" in today's papers. The articles are available from their web
sites, whose urls can be found on yahoo. The Herald praises Nigel's
performance as a "benevolent despot", and the Daily News calls him
"mesmerizing." I am out to grab as many papers as I can, and will report
on my adventures later.
Heather-Anne :)
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Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 08:27:09 -0400
From: Robert Gillis <ap840@c.......>
Subject: NB in "Hamlet"
Hi, folks! I have had a super time with the first Nigel fans I met at
"Hamlet." I am going to be seeing the play on the following four dates
with other Nigel fans:
Feb. 24
Mar. 3
Mar. 8
Mar. 12
If someone is coming up who hasn't contacted me yet and wishes to see the
play with me, please drop me a line off-list. I cam promise an INCREDIBLE
performance.
Heather-Anne :)
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Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 09:11:18 EST
From: Marel D'arby <Avalon1449@a.......>
Subject: Re: NB in "Hamlet"
Does anyone know why NB has temporarily returned to the stage?
I thought that in one interview he'd more or less set his mind
against further stage work. Is there a chance to obtain tickets,
or is the theatre sold out to the end of the run?
Marel
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Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 09:13:38 -0500
From: Gubs <gnn200@i.......>
Subject: Re: New list member
> Something just popped into me noggin and it wuzn't a blood vessel... When us
> Americans travel up to Toronto, does that make us UPpity? If a Toronto
> resident went into nothern Ontario, would that person be UPpity?
The real wuestion is that when the Canuks were to torch DC weren't
they really being DOWNity <g>
"A person is smart, people are dumb panicky dangerous animals"
Gubs
Merc , DP
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