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Digest - 14 Jan 2000 to 15 Jan 2000 (#2000-15)
Sat, 15 Jan 2000
There are 17 messages totalling 614 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. To Die For (2)
2. Best Hero Booth ALERT
3. Why Nick might turn away
4. Lacroix's again
5. Back in the Saddle Again
6. Spiffy Site Update (3)
7. Article
8. Lacroix's aging
9. Quest for Mortality Part18/?>PG<
10. Another FK alumni in THE CROSSING
11. Thank you
12. The Crossing (3)
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Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 17:08:46 -0500
From: mclisa@m.......
Subject: Re: To Die For
>Hi! Can someoone please tell me if "To Die For" is the same ep as "If
>Looks Could Kill"?
Yes, it is. If we've ever had an explanation as to why the titles differed
in the US and Canada ("If Looks Could Kill" was the US title), I haven't
heard it.
McLisa
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Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 17:18:28 -0600
From: Kristin Harris <kris1228@s.......>
Subject: Best Hero Booth ALERT
Nick just fell behind in the best sci-fi hero booth!! Please come help get
him back in his spot. Thanks!! :)
http://freevote.com/booth/ascifishowvote
Kristin
http://members.xoom.com/forever_nick/Forever_Knight
(just updated today with "The Fix" and more!)
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Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 17:41:15 EST
From: Laudon1965@a.......
Subject: Re: Why Nick might turn away
In a message dated 01/14/2000 12:13:16 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
webwarren@e....... writes:
<< A related idea: a NEW vampire disease that causes vamps to age unnaturally
quickly (this is a fairly standard SF/F plot device; we've seen it in STAR
TREK, STAR TREK: The Next Generation, and Psi-Factor: Tales of the
Paranormal, among others). >>
A similar condition, but one that was apparently a natural end for very old
vampires, was used the the movie "The Hunger". It could work.
Laurie of the Isles
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Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 17:44:16 EST
From: Laudon1965@a.......
Subject: Re: Lacroix's again
In a message dated 01/14/2000 12:24:44 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
mclisa@m....... writes:
<< As for LC, I don't know -- but I'm sure I could find a reason if necessary.
After all, look at the way soap writers bring characters back from the dead
no matter how thoroughly they were killed originally. :) >>
AARRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! Noooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!! <g>
I'd rather have FK be the woderful memory it is than have them bring it back
and do a Bobby Ewing. :: cringe ::
Laurie of the Isles
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Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 19:20:00 +0100
From: "Tracy S.Morris" <tracysue@i.......>
Subject: Re: To Die For
>>Hi! Can someoone please tell me if "To Die For" is the same ep as "If
>>Looks Could Kill"?
>
>Yes, it is. If we've ever had an explanation as to why the titles differed
>in the US and Canada ("If Looks Could Kill" was the US title), I haven't
>heard it.
It could possibly be the wording. Right now there is a very popular
cartoon made in canada that is called Beasties up there, and Beast Wars
down here. I've been told that the reason for that is that there is some
law prohibits canadian television shows to use the word "war" in their
titles.
It sounds a little silly, but that's what I've been told. Maybe it's the
same with the word "Kill". If I'm way off base with this, would someone
kindly correct me.
Tracy Sue <tracysue@i.......>
Vaquero
War 8 vet. War 9&10 survivor.
Trust in God but lock your car
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Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 18:38:08 -0600
From: treeleaf@i.......
Subject: Re: Back in the Saddle Again
At 10:21 PM 1/13/00 EST, EnidKnight@a....... wrote:
>Greetings to all:
>
> Hello everyone, Enid here....
>
>First, I want to thank all of you who wished me well.
>
>The emergency was a weird one. I went back to my college recently and
> it was raining pretty hard that day and there was a puddle right next to a
>flight of stairs and............
>
>BAM!!!!!!!!
>
>I fell, rolled, and slammed hard against the floor. I thought for sure I
>would be hospitalized,
>but my doctor told me I could stay home. I have some really large bruises
>on my back, legs, and butt, and a very, very large knot on my skull.
>Besides that, I'm still my freakish fun loving self!
>Well, I am back on my mailing lists.
>
>It's good to be back!
Ouch! Very glad to hear you're okay.
Margie (treeleaf@i.......)
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Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 18:50:10 -0800
From: Cousin Mary <anteros@j.......>
Subject: Spiffy Site Update
Greetings my fellow FK fanciers :)
I redid the look on my Tracy page and I think it turned out rather well.
http://www.geocities.com/cousin_mary1228
Please check it out and tell me what you think :)
Cousin Mary
anteros@j.......
I'm a DP Thug, ask me how!
http://www.geocities.com/cousin_mary1228
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Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 22:46:48 EST
From: BrandyKitt@a.......
Subject: Re: Article
In a message dated 01/14/2000 9:55:06 AM Central Standard Time,
DeanieBTVS@a....... writes:
> Schanke, Cohen, Screed,
> Vachon, Urs, Tracy, Natalie, Nick... has any other show killed off half of
> its cast? *sigh*
Yes, Blake's 7: just about everyone was killed in the last episode.
Nichols: the lead character was killed and replaced by his twin
brother.
Law and Order: only Claire was killed, but the show has lost
Capt. Don Cragen, EADA Ben Stone, ADA Paul Robinette, ADA
Claire Kincaid, ADA Jaime Ross, Det. Rey Curtis, Sgt. Max
Greevey, Det. Mike Logan, and Det. Phil Ceretta.
Evelyn Duncan
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Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 23:26:12 -0500
From: Cindy Ingram <cgi271@a.......>
Subject: Re: Lacroix's aging
McLisa wrote:
>As for LC, I don't know -- but I'm sure I could find a reason if necessary.
>After all, look at the way soap writers bring characters back from the dead
>no matter how thoroughly they were killed originally. :)
I'm probably in the minority here, but having LC look older wouldn't bother
me as much as having Nick look older. I think LC's age (at least in terms
of how old he *appears* to be) could be a little more ambiguous (i.e.,
flexible) than Nick's age. Nick was a strapping knight in his prime (or
maybe a little past it, in Medieval terms <g>) when he was brought across.
I think a youthful appearance -- and the need to explain why it isn't all
that youthful anymore -- is much more crucial in his case.
LC, on the other hand, was a somewhat older Roman general. And NB doesn't
seem to have aged all that much, to my eyes, anyway. <g> I could suspend my
disbelief enough to accept a slightly older-looking LC without needing an
explanation for it.
Soooo ... I still think having Nick live as a mortal for 3-5 years (maybe
longer) before reverting or being brought back across could work.
Unless, of course, they fool around and wait another 5-10 years to make a
movie. That might complicate things a bit. <g>
Cindy Ingram
<cgi271@a.......>
"In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people
very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." -- Douglas Adams.
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Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 02:28:12 EST
From: KnghtWtch@a.......
Subject: Re: Spiffy Site Update
In a message dated 1/14/00 8:40:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, anteros@j.......
writes:
<<
I redid the look on my Tracy page and I think it turned out rather
well.
>>
Hi there.....you did a great job on the Tracy page. Love the banners. Keep
up the great work!!
KnightWitch ;-]=
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Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 01:15:09 -0800
From: Cousin Mary <anteros@j.......>
Subject: Re: Spiffy Site Update
On Sat, 15 Jan 2000 02:28:12 EST KnghtWtch@a....... writes:
>Hi there.....you did a great job on the Tracy page. Love the banners.
> Keep up the great work!!
Thanks! I'm glad you like it, I'm so pleased at how it turned out :)
hugs!
Cousin Mary
anteros@j.......
I'm a DP Thug, ask me how!
http://www.geocities.com/cousin_mary1228
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Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 02:16:28 -0800
From: tigrlady2u@j.......
Subject: Quest for Mortality Part18/?>PG<
Disclaimers and posting permission in parts one, nine and fourteen.
This part is rated PG... it has a slightly sexual nature. I wrote it
with the thought "Would I allow my fourteen year old daughter to read
this?" The answer is, yes. Nothing graphic, but I thought I'd warn you.
Quest for Mortality
Part Eighteen
by KC Smith
Natalie smiled softly, as she watched Will Riker sleeping soundly. He
would soon awaken and be in the throes of First Hunger. She went out to
the livingroom and carried in the case that LaCroix had procured from
Guinan.
Will began to stir, as Natalie entered the bedroom. She sat on the bed
beside him and gently stroked his hair, until he at last opened his eyes.
Will opened his eyes to find that everything was cast in a golden glow.
He felt odd. Sounds and smells were more pronounced. He could see
things with much more clarity. Suddenly he was wracked with an intense
pain. He looked to Natalie, who sat calmly observing him.
Natalie watched Will, as he tried to adjust to his new senses. She saw
and felt the exact moment when the Hunger hit him, and she handed him an
open bottle. "Here. Drink this." She commanded softly.
Will grabbed the bottle from Natalie, not even stopping to question her.
He upended it and drank swiftly, downing it in a few moments.
Natalie handed him another, and then a third. Halfway through the third
bottle, Will took a deep breath and looked at her.
"So, am I...?" He asked starting slightly at how loud his voice sounded
to his own ears.
Natalie smiled, gesturing to the bottle in his hand. "What do you
think? Tell me, now that the Hunger has passed... what do you feel?
Take a sip and savor it... feel the person who gave the blood..."
Will looked at her questioning, but did as he was told. He smiled in
ecstacy, as the fiery liquid soothed him. He relived the thoughts and
feelings of the person who had donated the blood. He looked to Natalie
in surprise, as he slowly finished the rest of the bottle.
"What was that?" He asked her.
Natalie gently caressed his cheek. "That, my dear, was the power of the
Blood. It's incredible, isn't it?"
Will just nodded, as he handed the empty bottle to Natalie and watched
her set it in a wooden crate by the bed. As he watched her moving about
the room, a new hunger stirred within him... a bit more familiar, yet at
the same time, foreign.
Natalie looked at Will and smiled. "Don't worry. What you are
experiencing is perfectly normal. Just relax." She moved closer to him,
sitting next to him on the bed. She leaned forward and gave him a tender
kiss and was pleasantly surprised when he pulled her to him in a fierce
embrace.
"Natalie... I need you. Please." He said, gasping.
Natalie smiled, as she unbelted her robe and let it slide from her
shoulders. "Then take me... and I will teach you about the wonders of
blood sharing..."
Nick looked down at Deanna, sleeping peacefully. He could sense Nat,
and knew that Will was successfully across. He smiled at the feelings of
pleasure he could feel from her. Deanna would awaken soon, and he would
teach her, just as Natalie was now teaching Will.
He stood and went to the other side of the room, opening three bottles.
LaCroix had procured the necessary nourishment from Guinan, who had
refused to tell him anything other than that it was freely donated... and
Human.
Nick walked back to the bed and sat beside Deanna. He began softly
kissing her fingers, murmuring words of encouragement to her, until he
felt her stir. He smiled when she opened golden eyes and stared at him.
"Nick?" She whispered.
Nick nodded. "Hello. I was beginning to wonder if you were ever going to
wake up." He smiled at her, remembering to speak in low tones, so as not
to overwhelm her.
Deanna sat up, pulling the sheet around her. She gazed in wonder, as
she began to experience her newly enhanced senses. Now, not only could
she sense people as an empath, but her hearing and eyesight were sharper.
She could smell things that she'd never before noticed. She looked at
Nick and smiled.
Nick nodded, as he returned her smile. "Welcome." He reached for a
bottle, when Deanna suddenly doubled over in pain. "Here, drink this.
Don't fight it."
Deanna was just accustoming herself to her new senses, when she was hit
with an intensely searing pain in her stomach. She gratefully took the
bottle Nick offered her and swiftly drank down the contents. She had
finished her second bottle, and was now starting on her third, when Nick
put his hand on hers.
"Deanna... what do you feel? What do you sense? The blood is more than
just our food, as I told you before I brought you over. Take a moment to
savor it, experience it."
Deanna nodded and did as she was instructed. She smiled brightly, as
she experienced the emotions, thoughts and memories. "It's wonderful.
Incredible, actually."
Nick smiled and nodded. "Tell me."
Deanna took a mouthful, closing her eyes in concentration. She
swallowed, then looked at Nick. "It's a young woman. She is in love with
someone who does not return her love. She... her name is Maya."
Nick smiled at her. "Go ahead and finish it." He motioned to the bottle.
Deanna quickly finished off the bottle, handing it to Nick. "What now?"
She asked.
Nick grinned at her, as he moved to put the bottle away. "Why don't we
just take things as they come?"
"But when can I see Will?" She asked.
"Not until tomorrow. Natalie is taking good care of him."
"So, he is a vampire, too?" She asked. She began stretching out her
senses, searching for him. And was surprised when she felt the feelings
of intense pleasure coming from both him and Natalie. She frowned sadly,
as she looked at Nick.
Nick noticed and sat beside her. "What is it?"
"Will. He and Natalie..." She broke off, not wanting to even say it
aloud.
"I know." Nick told her, smiling slightly. "They are enjoying
themselves."
Deanna looked at him in shock. "And that's okay with you?"
Nick chuckled lightly. "Oh, Deanna, we already discussed this.
Relationships in the vampire world are so much different. Especially
between a vampire master and his or her fledgling. It is perfectly
normal." He looked at her, as he kissed her fingers. "Perhaps if you
would relax, you would begin to understand."
Deanna frowned, then nodded. She took a deep breath, using the
relaxation techniques she so often taught her own patients. When she
opened her eyes, they were once again golden. "Nick? What is this? I
feel so odd... Hungry, but... not." Her expression was questioning.
Nick smiled. "That is your next lesson." He pulled her to him, kissing
her deeply. He ran his tongue across her canines, and felt her fangs drop
for the first time.
"Oh!" Deanna exclaimed, pulling away slightly. "What...?"
Nick just pulled her closer, kissing her gently, stimulating her fangs.
He pulled back a little and looked into her eyes when he heard a soft
moan escape her. They were now red with desire. "That's it, just relax."
He stood and removed his robe, then pulled the covers from Deanna.
"Trust me." He soothed, lying beside her and pulling her closer.
Deanna relaxed into his embrace, as she began to understand...
LaCroix smiled down at Urs, sleeping soundly in his arms. He was fully
aware of the activities of both Nicholas and Natalie, and he was
immensely pleased. His family was growing, and Nick and Natalie were
finally beginning to stop fighting their nature.
He sighed as he pulled the blankets up around Urs and settled in.
Closing his eyes, he pushed into the sensations coming from his children.
At last, things were as they should be.
End Part 18
KC Smith
tigrlady2u@j.......
Nick/Natpacker with Dark Knightie tendencies.
Light Cousin/Unholy Trinity.
"I've never met a chocolate I didn't like."
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Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 14:03:57 EST
From: Libratsie@a.......
Subject: Another FK alumni in THE CROSSING
I just happened to have A&E on when THE CROSSING came on. As has been
reported, Nigel's in this. However, I was passing back through the livingroom
when I heard a familiar voice. It appears Julian Riching is in it as well!
Julian was in FK's "A More Permanent Hell" and also was also a recurring
character in Once A Thief as Greg "Screed" Kramer's partner (including the
episode "Drive, She Said" with Nigel and John Kapelos)
--Libs
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Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 14:13:15 EST
From: Laudon1965@a.......
Subject: Thank you
Hello all,
I would just like to take a moment to say thank you to this wonderful group
of people that is the online FK fandom. This community only has to hear of
someone going through a rough time, and then the prayers, offers of help,
advice and shared experiences start pouring in. No one is alone in this
world, and especially not on the FK lists. Bless you every one.
Laurie of the Isles
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Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 15:23:36 -0500
From: mclisa@m.......
Subject: The Crossing
Which part did Julian Richings play? I remember at least one actor I
couldn't put a name to who looked and sounded familiar. Was he the man they
commandeered the boats from?
As for Nigel as General Gates, he only had one scene, but he took that one
away from Jeff Daniels without really trying. What I want to know is, did
Washington really have Alexander Hamilton escort Gates out of camp at gun
point so he wouldn't try to take him men with him, for complete disagreement
and disparagement of the plan for the Battle of Trention? Btw, I looked up
Gates after the show. He was English by birth and a former British army
officer, which must be why Nigel was playing him with one of those
"Vice-President of God Almighty, Inc" English upper class accents and
manners. (I have to credit my father with that phrase, although he was
talking about something different at the time.)
And of course it wouldn't surprised anyone who remembers first season
LaCroix that Nigel looks good in the 18th c. white wig.
Cousin McLisa (Lisa McDavid) "That will be Trouble."
mclisa@m.......
Listowner Forkni-l, Fkfic-l, Fkv4s-l
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Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 15:27:10 EST
From: Libratsie@a.......
Subject: Re: The Crossing
In a message dated 1/15/00 2:21:58 PM Central Standard Time,
mclisa@m....... writes:
> Which part did Julian Richings play? I remember at least one actor I
> couldn't put a name to who looked and sounded familiar. Was he the man they
> commandeered the boats from?
>
To be truthful, I'm waiting to a point when I have time to actually sit down
and watch the movie properly, but I believe Julian was the droog who had to
give up his boats. I'm not 100% sure I would've recognized him by sight, but
there was no mistaken the voice!
--Libs
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Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 14:54:48 -0600
From: Michele Alexander <syren@i.......>
Subject: Re: The Crossing
<delurk mode activated>
----- Original Message -----
From: <mclisa@m.......>
To: <FORKNI-L@l.......>
Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2000 2:23 PM
Subject: The Crossing
> Which part did Julian Richings play? I remember at least one actor I
> couldn't put a name to who looked and sounded familiar. Was he the man they
> commandeered the boats from?
I watched the movie with my boyfriend(who is gradually becoming a fan of the
various FK cast members<bounce, bounce>. And when I saw the scene with the
man they took the boats from I said wait a minute thats the guy who is
partnered with GK in "once a thief". I didn't know his name though so couldn't
confirm in the credits.
I also so David Ferry listed and if I remember right he is an FK alum.
> As for Nigel as General Gates, he only had one scene, but he took that one
> away from Jeff Daniels without really trying.
Sheesh did he the entire rest of the movie my boyfriend and I were searching
for more Nigel. the costumes and all were good but the movie IMO was not that
great. We got to the point of joking he was a reverse vampire only able to come
out in the daylight<g>. You probably had to be there.
>What I want to know is, did
> Washington really have Alexander Hamilton escort Gates out of camp at gun
> point so he wouldn't try to take him men with him, for complete disagreement
> and disparagement of the plan for the Battle of Trention?
I'd really love to know also I've barely even heard of him before. We made
joking speculation about him being related to bill gates though.
<snip>
> He was English by birth and a former British army
> officer, which must be why Nigel was playing him with one of those
> "Vice-President of God Almighty, Inc" English upper class accents and
> manners. (I have to credit my father with that phrase, although he was
> talking about something different at the time.)
LOL I LOVE it that is such a good phrase.
> And of course it wouldn't surprised anyone who remembers first season
> LaCroix that Nigel looks good in the 18th c. white wig.
Yeah whatever do you do when General Lacriox comes to dinner. Crossover
possibilities anyone? I think we can do it since this is a tv movie as
opposed to a movie movie...mclisa?
<relurk>
Michele
AlexaKnight@e.......
Syren@i.......
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