FORKNI-L
Logfile LOG9605D Part 11
May 25-May 26, 1996
File: "FORKNI-L LOG9605D" Part 11
TOPICS:
Unnamed Faction VS another one (8)
GWD Chocolate Pizza and Ribena
Silly New Game
GER Alert
YKYBWTMFK. (4)
New Actors for FK characters (4)
"francesca"--talk of undead/eternal damnation/"?"
If someone else wrote FK
Chicago Cable will have the Sci-Fi Channel 6/1/96
YKTYHBW...
a quick explanation of the thong throng
Nick loved Nat! (3)
Getting more FK
Factions Fractioned (3)
catching up
NetRatings Musings....
Help-need info re blooper script
Will we keep writing FK Fiction?? YES!
Off-topic: Video Capturing.
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Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 14:05:46 -0500
From: Margie Hammet <treeleaf@i.......>
Subject: Re: Unnamed Faction VS another one
At 01:08 PM 5/25/96 +0000, Katja Stokley wrote:
>Nick was ambivalent from the first - flashbacks to when he was first brought
>over show him demanding that Lacroix change him back, telling Lacroix
>bitterly that he (Nick) is Lacroix's slave, asking Lacroix what kind of
>monster he's been made into.
I gather from earlier posts that this is another one of those wonderful
scenes from the Canadian version that I will never get to see. (groannn)
Would somebody care to post a transcript of this scene or send me a
transcript?
Margie (treeleaf@i.......)
N&NPacker
Still looking for a Nick-LaCroix faction that works for me
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Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 13:46:34 -0500
From: Mad Hatter <cli7@s.......>
Subject: Re: GWD Chocolate Pizza and Ribena
At 08:34 PM 5/24/96 -0500, you wrote:
>-- [ From: Robbi Egersdorf * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] --
>
>I made GWD's pizza today using filo dough with white
>chocolate and raspberries. It was excellent. There
>are so many combinations that can be used!
>
>Robbi
okay; now i know what this ribena brew is, but
i'm not sure about this....chocolate pizza bit. must be
an inside thing. hence, i'm not sure i want to know.
[cocopizza? yuuuuuummmm.....]
-madhat <plpl>
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Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 13:49:53 -0500
From: Mad Hatter <cli7@s.......>
Subject: Re: Silly New Game
At 03:35 AM 5/25/96 -0400, you wrote:
>Apache
>who is now wondering which Tropical Fish would they be?
>
>(Tracy, angelfish; Nick & Natalie, kissing guarami [spelling? sorry];
>Lacroix, fugu [poisonous blowfish]; Schanke, clownfish; Screed, guppy;
>Urs, goldfish; Janette, Black Molly but with better eyes.... shoot me,
>just shoot me)
>
who would be a japanese goby? <muahahahaha>
-mdht
"it's the mercury. honest!"
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Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 12:57:35 -0700
From: Mary Ruzycki <Ruzycki@p.......>
Subject: GER Alert
Beware, newbie's first posting after months of lurking, apologies to
all if I mess it up --- BUT I couldn't stand it anymore.
In anticipation of Ger's Outer Limits episode "Paradise", I called
Showtime (which carries O.L. for me) to inquire about an airdate>>>
the answer was June 16th!
The Warner Brothers programming rep. couldn't come up with an airdate
for Deb Duchene's episode "Chill Ride" for Kung Fu yet, but they took
my name and promised to call back. (Yeah, hope springs etenal,
right?)
And, for those in the Scottsdale area who don't already know, our TCI
franchise will begin SCIFI Channel on June 1st. - this after months of
saying they couldn't do it. Thanks to the "AZ Crusaders for the
Knight" for that little tip, but it's been confirmed.
Mary from Scottsdale
A Knightie forever with Cousin tendencies
Ruzycki@p.......
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Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 13:53:24 -0500
From: Mad Hatter <cli7@s.......>
Subject: Re: YKYBWTMFK.
At 10:44 AM 5/25/96 -0400, you wrote:
> Wicked Cousin Tippi's Thong Throng.
>
i've ignored this before, but curiosity is getting the better of me.
[very dangerous, oui]_
so, here's the essay contest:
can anyone explain the above phrase to me in
20 words or less? okay, how 'bouts 30? [particles don't count]
>;)
-madda hatta
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Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 13:56:56 -0500
From: Mad Hatter <cli7@s.......>
Subject: Re: New Actors for FK characters
At 12:32 PM 5/25/96 -0500, you wrote:
>I can't imagine watching Forever Knight with different actors playing
>the characters. I don't think I'd want to watch it at all.
>
>Margie (treeleaf@i.......)
>
yep; i've seen a number of chinese movies, very good ones, and
all with sequels played by a differenct cast. really, it's HORRID!
-madhat
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Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 14:04:38 -0500
From: Mad Hatter <cli7@s.......>
Subject: "francesca"--talk of undead/eternal damnation/"?"
just tinking_
one thing that struck me as a little inconsistent was the way
transitional death was played out. in "francesca" there was
talk about reincarnation. but i thought once a vampire
died s/he was doomed to damnation. at least that was what
i was led to believe in that one ep....where Nick played with
a machine that made him brain-dead, and he ended up in
that desert, where he could either be damned by going through
to lighted gate, OR be eternally stuck in that desert [until Nat
saved him with good ol' fashioned rat poison!].
so, if this ep is accurate, then isn't reincarnation [in fran's case]
impossible? or am i just missing a big piece of pie?
-mdht
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Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 13:21:38 -0700
From: Raissa Devereux <1595@e.......>
Subject: If someone else wrote FK
Hi all,
I was just thinking about that post someone did about Jim Henson writing
FK. Nick would be Kermit and Piggy would be Nat (or Janette if were going
by her need for fashion). However, I have a different take. If Henson
wrote FK, I think it would be more like Labrynth with LC as the David
Bowie demon character and Nick as the one who has to escape him.
Raissa Devereux
raissa@i.......
NatVampCamp/FoSiL
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Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 15:10:53 -0500
From: Margie Hammet <treeleaf@i.......>
Subject: Re: Unnamed Faction VS another one
At 09:56 AM 5/25/96 -0700, Angie wrote:
>I want to explore the tormented relationship between Nick and
>LaCroix in a non-sexual manner
I'm not sure this is what I'm looking for in a Nick-LaCroix faction.
There's a lot of tormenting going on, yes, but there's also a lot of
love (non-erotic love) happening.
>I also want to start a loop like that.
I'm not telling you not to start your loop if you want to, but is it really
necessary to have that kind of discussion off the main lists? The
Nick-LaCroix relationship is so crucial to Forever Knight, that can't most
of the discussion about it take place on the lists as a whole? That is,
unless you really want to concentrate on the tormenting stuff and think most
people wouldn't be interested. And even if you think people wouldn't be
interested, you could be wrong. For instance, I enjoy reading Amy's posts
about Light Cousins and Fleur Booster whether or not I see things exactly
her way. I enjoy reading another point of view. It's stimulating and adds
to my own view of things.
>For instance, LC & Nick have been together for almost 800 years exclusively
>as a family with Janette ...it must have been something terrible that Nick
>noticed LC doing that made him pull away.
Katja posted a reply to this that gave another point of view about it. With
an e-mail loop, you lose the point of view of other people who might be able
to cast more light on exactly what you're wondering about.
>I think we will name it *Cousins of the Knight*.
I do think this was a very clever name, and if you seriously want to
concentrate on the tormenting aspect of things, it makes perfect sense.
But I still don't think it's what I'm looking for. Even though the
relationship between LaCroix and Nick is unequal, as parent-child
relationships typically are, I'm looking for a name that treats them more
as equals, so that we maintain respect for both of them. Also, I think
that as Nick gets older, the relationship becomes slightly more equal.
Again, that's typical of parent-child relationships. It doesn't
necessarily become equal in a straight line, but that's the trend.
Someone had a really good post, about the relationship being both a parent-
child and a friendship relationship, sometimes loving, but with all the
strains that naturally occur in those kinds of relationships. (The person
said it a whole lot better than I'm saying it here.) I would like a faction
that sees the Nick-LaCroix relationship in that way. I'm leaning toward a
name like Eternal Friends or Eternal Bonds.
Margie (treeleaf@i.......)
N&NPacker
Still looking for a Nick-LaCroix faction that works for me
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Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 16:47:04 -0400
From: Siona <siona@n.......>
Subject: Re: Unnamed Faction VS another one
On Sat, 25 May 1996, TippiNB wrote:
> Lasher wrote:
>
> No, no, you can be 5 years old and belong to the Unnamed Faction. You can
> be 105. You just can't get the jadfe-level stories unless you're over 18.
> I'm doing that to keep everything nice and legal.
Now you've confused me. Are you talking about age also for belonging to
the loop? Or just the age to belong to the faction? As I stated before,
I won't really feel comfortable with minors on the loop.
Siona@n.......
Dark Knightie! and proud member of the Unnamed Faction
Help save Forever Knight! see http://www.netaxs.com/~siona/
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Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 14:03:09 -0700
From: Angie <alasher@e.......>
Subject: Re: Unnamed Faction VS another one
>Someone had a really good post, about the relationship being both a parent-
>child and a friendship relationship, sometimes loving, but with all the
>strains that naturally occur in those kinds of relationships. (The person
>said it a whole lot better than I'm saying it here.) I would like a faction
>that sees the Nick-LaCroix relationship in that way.
Yep that would have been my post about how I wanted to belong to a faction
that nor only explored the Nick & Lucian friendship, but also one that
explored the family ties they must feel, knowing that there is not only love
within the family, but a lot of torment, jealousy, petty arguing and other
stuff.
Lasher
~~Unnamed Faction ~~
~~~~Cousin of the Knight(pending)~~~~
~~~~Bunny~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~MOO Member~~~~
**http://home.earthlink.net/~alasher**
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Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 16:03:12 -0500
From: michael wayne jackson <mjay@n.......>
Subject: Chicago Cable will have the Sci-Fi Channel 6/1/96
In today's mail I received a letter announcing the new expanded basic
lineup and it includes the Sci-Fi Channel starting June 1st.
Chicago people, here's your chance to get FK after WBBM stops showing it!
Finally!!
michael wayne jackson -- mjay@n.......
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Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 17:03:34 -0400
From: "Lisa P." <LadysAVamp@a.......>
Subject: YKTYHBW...
You know that you have been watching too much Forever Knight when at work you
go to check your snail mail folder, and the name before it is Christine
Lacroix. You do a double take, and begin to wonder...did he have another
child that I don't know about?
And you start walking up and down the hallways trying to find this person, so
you can ask them. Well, not about his being her father, but to ask if she
ever watched FK. I swear this is true.
Lisa P.
***********************************************************************
In this ever changing world, only one thing is truly permanent...Forever
Knight
A Cousinly Knightie with NatPacker tendencies <I do so hate to limit
myself>
LadysAVamp@a....... -- "Hey, who you calling a lady!?!"
oboyyme@t....... -- <Lacroix's unheard thoughts at end of LK>
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Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 14:07:20 PDT
From: "Leslie I.Plummer" <lplummer@i.......>
Subject: Re: YKYBWTMFK.
Mad Hatter wanted to know...
>can anyone explain the above phrase to me
Y-ou K-now Y-ou've B-een W-atching T-oo M-uch F-orever K-night...
(saves on cyber space to abbreviate)
Leslie
***FOREVER MEANS...FOREVER!!!***
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Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 16:19:57 -0500
From: TippiNB <Tippinb@i.......>
Subject: Re: Unnamed Faction VS another one
Lasher wrote:
>People see Lasher running insanely down the street! I am sorry Tippi, I was
>mistaken, and I will wack myself several times with a cow's tongue! So I
>will just say that we will figure this one out and get back to it tomorrow.
>Thanks for your kindness and understanding!
Goodness, no need to torture yourself! A cow's tongue? Bleh! ;)
Wicked Cousin Tippi, dollar bill wrangler of the Thong Throng!
*Founding Member of the Unnamed Faction*Voyeur of the Menage LaCroix*
"I'm not in denial. I'm in a state of creative readjustment!"
Wickedness Site! http://www.netcom.com/~tippinb/wicked.html
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Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 16:34:09 -0500
From: TippiNB <Tippinb@i.......>
Subject: a quick explanation of the thong throng
Madda Hatta asked, in referrence to the Thong Throng:
>i've ignored this before, but curiosity is getting the better of me.
>so, here's the essay contest:
>can anyone explain the above phrase to me in
>20 words or less? okay, how 'bouts 30? [particles don't count]
The short answer:
We are people who are cruel enough to create scenarios in which LC would
wear this most incongruous of undergarments.
The longer answer:
Mind you, we might not really want to SEE this happen in real life. Trust
me -- I am a black silk boxer shorts kinda gal. You don't actually have to
want to SEE LC in a thong to belong to the Throng. You just have to like
imagining it -- whether for humorous purposes or libidinous. ;)
Does that answer your question?
Besides, it's just so FUN to say "thong throng"!
Wicked Cousin Tippi, dollar bill wrangler of the Thong Throng!
*Founding Member of the Unnamed Faction*Voyeur of the Menage LaCroix*
"I'm not in denial. I'm in a state of creative readjustment!"
Wickedness Site! http://www.netcom.com/~tippinb/wicked.html
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Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 16:27:39 -0500
From: TippiNB <Tippinb@i.......>
Subject: Re: Nick loved Nat!
Leslie wrote a referrence to Human Factor, which I won't repeat here (I
think it's still under spoiler protection), but I'll just say:
I once had a very similar dream involving someone I'd only known for 2
months, had never spoken to, and whom I found physically and mentally
repulsive. And yet I had a dream about them. Dreams can't always be
trusted. ;)
I'm not saying one way or the other whether Nick loves Nat or not. I'm just
saying it's kind of hard to use dreams as evidence.
Wicked Cousin Tippi, dollar bill wrangler of the Thong Throng!
*Founding Member of the Unnamed Faction*Voyeur of the Menage LaCroix*
"I'm not in denial. I'm in a state of creative readjustment!"
Wickedness Site! http://www.netcom.com/~tippinb/wicked.html
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Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 19:16:35 -0400
From: Nathanial Cook <NatRobin@a.......>
Subject: Re: Getting more FK
I know that this info has probably been posted before, but I'd like to add my
voice to the campaign . . .
(Even though I don't get Sci-Fi Channel) what is the address to Sci-Fi so
that I can send them letters of thanks?
Also, I'd like to contribute to the pediatric thingie, whatever it is.
Sorry for the use of space, but I'm curious.
NAT!!! (Still Hopeful Raven)
NatRobin@a.......
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Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 16:55:17 -0700
From: Peggy Wiltz <pwiltz@i.......>
Subject: Re: YKYBWTMFK.
>Mad Hatter wanted to know...
>>can anyone explain the above phrase to me
Hate to butt in, but I *think* he wanted someone to explain Wicked Cousin
Tippi's Thong Throng. I could be wrong - anyway, I wouldn't mind an
explanation myself.
Peg
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Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 17:21:12 PDT
From: "Leslie I.Plummer" <lplummer@i.......>
Subject: Re: Nick loved Nat!
Tippi wrote:
>I'm not saying one way or the other whether Nick loves Nat or not. I'm just
>saying it's kind of hard to use dreams as evidence.
Yes, Human Factor was before I was taping, so my memory was/is a little
hazy. I think is was not a sleeping type of dream, but a life/goal
dream or reflection on what had occurred in the ep. (no spoilers)
A daydream? Manifestation of a deep fantasy of his? Can anyone help
us here? Is HF on spoiler protection? If so, let's all take a step
over the the FKPOILR list. (Sorry, if it IS protected...)
p.s. I'm finally getting to the fanfic (after all "5000" messages on
forkni & fkspoilr last week), and I want to thank ALL AUTHORS!...
Keeps it alive for me/for all of us!
pps. Saw BB1 last night (as we start 3rd season over). It's a real
"pop of the clutch" to see all our faves; so young and fresh, compared
with the last two eps! Be prepared. Put yer Kleenex away.
Be willing to smile... It was wonderful!
(Oh, goodie. We get Reese, Tracy, & Vachon again!) And, Nick & Nat hug
all over the place! ...like the last two weeks never happened...
Leslie
***FOREVER MEANS...FOREVER!!!***
N&NPacker/Knightie... Wildly Romantic & Fiercely Optimistic
An FK Movie(s) sort of gal
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Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 20:51:06 +0000
From: Katja Stokley <cstokley@c.......>
Subject: Re: Unnamed Faction VS another one
Margie was wondering about the Lacroix-Nick scenes I mentioned.
They're not all in one contiguous scene, but are snippets from Nick's
first night as a vampire shown as flashbacks in various shows.
Nick says he's Lacroix's slave : it's either in Black Buddha or
Killer Instinct (I just can't remember the context right now, and
those are the two episodes I've watched most recently).
It will take me a couple of days, but I'll hunt around for references
to the other two ("you've made me a monster" and "change me back" -
or something like that).
Katja
Katja Stokley
cstokley@c.......
It is a good day to put slinkies on escalators
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Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 19:54:33 PST
From: "P. L. Montgomery" <plcm@j.......>
Subject: Re: Unnamed Faction VS another one
> jadfe-level stories
--------
Ok, what the heck does _this_ mean?
Puzzled...
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Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 19:32:07 PST
From: "P. L. Montgomery" <plcm@j.......>
Subject: Re: New Actors for FK characters
Muldy Sculler <ffbmh@a.......> writes:
>Interesting you should mention that--what if TPTB do a Dr. Who on us.
>I can say no more--just think about this concept.
>Barbara
But it wasn't written in as part of the character, as Dr. Who's
transformations were. Not acceptable. Not at all.
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Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 19:30:10 PST
From: "P. L. Montgomery" <plcm@j.......>
Subject: Re: New Actors for FK characters
Margie Hammet <treeleaf@i.......> writes:
>I can't imagine watching Forever Knight with different actors playing
>the characters. I don't think I'd want to watch it at all.
I'm afraid I'd have to agree with that.
Though I did watch ST:TNG and ST:DS9 when they were available, and now
watch ST:Voyager -- they weren't then nor are they now any substitute
for the original Star Trek. As there was only one James T. Kirk so
there is only one Nicholas Knight, etc. *shrug*
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Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 21:57:49 -0500
From: Sandra Gray <TMP_HARKINS@d.......>
Subject: Factions Fractioned
After reading about the proposed various "splits" loops regarding
the Nick and LC relationship in the last few days' digests, I find
myself wondering what is with all this desire to have factions,
fractions, fractions of factions, etc. In the case of "adult" type
musing, I can see where someone might want to form a private loop
for that since forkni-l isn't geared really for explicit talk about
characters on the show (innuendo now...;) ). Some people already
have myriad faction/fraction names in their sigs. Is it just a desire
to have *all* your interests labelled?
Like Margie Hammet, I wonder where all the discussion will go on this
list if there are all these "private loops" set up. It seems that
lately a lot of the only discussion on this list is discussion about
the latest up and coming faction/fraction. Don't get me wrong; if
people want to form interest groups of their own, then fine. I just
would hope that such activity wouldn't mean that discussion of the
show would trickle away on this list as a result.
I've loved Nick from the beginning, hence the "forever Knightie" in
my sig. I appreciate what the other characters (present and past)
have brought to the show, but I haven't felt any need to embrace any
other faction/fraction. But I still want to discuss LC's evil :),
the relationship between Nick and LC (or Nick and Janette, or Nick
and Nat, etc.), and would hope that those involved with setting up
private loops won't save all the juicy discussions for those loops.
--Sandra Gray, forever Knightie
(who's glad of these lists, even if I can't be just mail on all
of them anymore. But I do miss the days of instant reply.)
--tmp_harkins@d.......
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Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 22:02:35 -0400
From: June Williams <cousin@w.......>
Subject: Re: Unnamed Faction VS another one
At 07:54 PM 5/25/96 PST, you wrote:
>> jadfe-level stories
> --------
>
>Ok, what the heck does _this_ mean?
>
>Puzzled...
>
Dear Puzzled,
JADFE = James And DarkAngels Forever Erotica
A fair amount of the fiction posted to the above named list deals with same
sex erotic relationships aka slash. Ok slash, like Nick/LaCroix in FK or
Kirk/Spock in Trek. If you REALLY want to hear about the gory details of
the birth of slash, email me privately.
Ad Astra-June-cousin@w.......
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Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 22:03:13 -0400
From: Amy Potter <APotter@g.......>
Subject: catching up
Well, I finally waded through my backlog of Forkni-l digests, and
thought I'd de-lurk (de-skulk? de-slink?) to make a couple
comments:
First-- I very much enjoyed the "If so-and-so wrote FK--" thread,
my favorite was the Douglas Adams one, ROTFL!
Second-- re the FK IRC chats-- does anyone have suggestions on what
might be a good IRC client software program?
Third -- re the blooper script-- could someone private email with
info on how to order this?
Thanks in advance!
<return to lurk mode>
--amy
Email: APotter@g.......
Home Page: http://members.gnn.com/APotter/page1.htm
"You're almost 800 years old . . . what's an egg?" -- Nat
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Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 22:03:58 -0400
From: Carrie Krumtum <CKrumtum@g.......>
Subject: Re: Nick loved Nat!
Cynthia wrote:
> It's a nice, sweet, loving friendship kind of
>thing ... with a healthy dose of hormones.
At times, I think this is true. From the very beginning of the series there
was a sense of this kind of attraction. It's MHO that eps like BMV and NiQ
move the relationship well beyond that level. No, Nick doesn't come right out
and say "I love you." As much as I would like to have heard him do so, it
isn't necessary for me to believe that he DOES love her.
I'm no expert (is there such as thing as a 'love' expert?), but, I find the
clues for how they feel for each other in many ways. In DBTLOFM, Nick drops
off a gift for Nat (the first gesture we see in the series) and when Schanke
calls him on it he says, "We're just friends." Schankes reaction was
priceless, it was the 'Yeah, Right! NOT!' reaction most such proclamations
bring. Towards the end of the first season we get OTL. Nick is jealous! Not
just overprotective. Jealous, in a sexual kind of way. Natalie obviously
wants more from their relationship, the things she says in response to her
flashbacks are proof enough for me.
By the second season and BMV, we know that Nick thinks he knows what women
want "A man who's not afraid to show their love for them." He sets about
doing just that long BEFORE he remembers there is a danger to Nat from
LaCroix. He loves Nat. He needs Nat. I'm not convinced he is able to
emotional separate the two or that he should. As fiction goes, this is pretty
good stuff (hence this current discussion).
By the third season and NiQ, the love and caring he has for Nat is so deeply
ingrained in him that even without his memory he knows that there is
something 'very special' between them. Nick loves Nat. Nat loves Nick. Angst
exists, fear exists, danger exists for them in the relationship. Again, great
fiction and dramatic devices.
Just MHO. In my fiction, as has always been the case, they will love each
other.
:)=
Carrie, Slovenly Knightie AKA Carrie the Cruel
CKrumtum@g.......
It's hard to judge someone when you're blinded by your love for them.
--Mother Teresa
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Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 20:38:27 -0500
From: Mad Hatter <cli7@s.......>
Subject: Re: YKYBWTMFK.
At 04:55 PM 5/25/96 -0700, you wrote:
>>Mad Hatter wanted to know...
>>>can anyone explain the above phrase to me
>
>
>Hate to butt in, but I *think* he wanted someone to explain Wicked Cousin
>Tippi's Thong Throng. I could be wrong - anyway, I wouldn't mind an
>explanation myself.
>
>Peg
>
talking about me? i'm a *she* ;)
-madhat
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Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 22:00:57 -0500
From: TippiNB <Tippinb@i.......>
Subject: Re: Factions Fractioned
Sandra wrote:
>After reading about the proposed various "splits" loops regarding
>the Nick and LC relationship in the last few days' digests, I find
>myself wondering what is with all this desire to have factions,
>fractions, fractions of factions, etc. In the case of "adult" type
Well, that's it right there. ;) The Unnamed Faction is not by definition an
"adult" faction. But the Unnamed Loop is an adult loop. I started that
loop because it's not exactly *legal* for us to talk about some things on
forkni. ;)
Factions and fractions come and go. Loops come and go. Time will only
tell....
Wicked Cousin Tippi, dollar bill wrangler of the Thong Throng!
*Founding Member of the Unnamed Faction*Voyeur of the Menage LaCroix*
"I'm not in denial. I'm in a state of creative readjustment!"
Wickedness Site! http://www.netcom.com/~tippinb/wicked.html
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Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 22:49:56 -0400
From: Carrie Krumtum <CKrumtum@g.......>
Subject: NetRatings Musings....
First, my thanks to Jeff Standish for keeping the stats.
I just visited Jeff's NetRatings web site and copied the list of eps for FK
as they were ranked, numerical rating wise, from Best to Worst.
It struck me that with all the vocal dislike of the third season eps as they
compare to the first two seasons, the third season does best of the three in
the ratings.
Of the top five ranked, four are from the third season. Of the top ten, five
of from the third season. Of the top twenty, seven are from the third season.
I would say that the third season is just full of wonderfulness by this list.
I have included the top 10 list for your viewing pleasure (and so you
wouldn't have to take my word for it).
Rating Episode Name
------ ------------
9.35 313 Fever
9.30 310 Night in Question
9.22 320 Ashes to Ashes
9.22 311 Sons of Belial
9.22 218 The Fix
9.15 219 Curiouser and Curiouser
9.09 118 Feeding the Beast
8.95 223 Be My Valentine
8.88 116 Only the Lonely
8.74 314 Dead of Night
Of particular interest to me is the nature of the above list. What do you all
think about this group of eps? What they share? Is there a theme or thread
that link these eps more closely than the others? I thought so. That's why
this post. I just thought you all might find this as interesting as I did.
Cheers,
Carrie, Slovenly Knightie AKA Carrie the Cruel
CKrumtum@g.......
It's hard to judge someone when you're blinded by your love for them.
--Mother Teresa
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Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 22:23:36 -0500
From: Margie Hammet <treeleaf@i.......>
Subject: Re: Factions Fractioned
At 09:57 PM 5/25/96 -0500, Sandra Gray wrote:
>what is with all this desire to have factions ...
>Is it just a desire to have *all* your interests labelled?
>Like Margie Hammet, I wonder where all the discussion will go on this
>list if there are all these "private loops" set up.
Absolutely, I agree, I'm glad Sandra brought this up. I can't tell if
Sandra thinks I'm trying to set up a private loop, or if she's saying she
agrees with me about the dangers of having all these private loops.
To try to make it clear about what I want, I _do_ want a way to have my
major interests labelled like other people do. I want people to have
some sense, at least, of where I'm coming from in some of my posts,
especially when they relate to those major interests. Most people put
at least an individual character's name in their signature. I don't do that,
because although I like Nick, Nat, and LaCroix all very much, I am not a
"follower" of any of them, and I like the relationships in Forever Knight
even more than any individual character.
There already is a faction for one of the relationships that I especially
like, the N&NPackers. There's a couples faction for Nick and LaCroix,
called the Unnamed Faction. When Tippi asked about a couples faction for
Nick and LaCroix, she literally meant a couples faction, implying an
erotic relationship (although she's not trying to say that eroticism is
the only aspect of the relationship, of course). I misunderstood what
she meant at the time, but she has made it clear now.
I think that LaCroix loves Nick, although not in an erotic way, and that
Nick loves LaCroix, at least some of the time, and again, not in an erotic
way. There is no faction that expresses that. I would like there to be
one.
I do not at all want a private e-mail loop associated with such a faction,
unless it's for something like deciding on an affiliation pin, if such
a faction should get started. I want any discussion to stay on the list,
where everyone who is interested can join in, whether they are in the
faction or not. Does that clear it up?
Margie (treeleaf@i.......)
N&NPacker
Still looking for a Nick-LaCroix faction that works for me
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Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 23:42:22 -0400
From: Tigon Diana Hooker <TeigrLlew@a.......>
Subject: Help-need info re blooper script
Hello, sorry to waste space, but my computer crashed and
I lost my carefully saved info on ordering the LK blooper
script. If someone could privately email me the info, I'd be
appreciative.
Tigon the Bouncing Tigger and Lone Woof at Large
Woofpack w/ strong Knightie, N&N, and FoSiL tendencies
"What time is it? What day is it? What century is it?"
TeigrLlew@a....... (Tigon Diana Hooker)
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Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 20:48:46 -0700
From: Ann-Lu Blewett <ann-lu@i.......>
Subject: Re: Will we keep writing FK Fiction?? YES!
Marcia Tucker wrote:
>This writer has NO INTENTION of stopping her fiction writing!
>I ve just gotten started! the FORKNI-L list will go on for some time,
>though possibly become less active, but I look for the Fiction list to
>go strong for years.
Since the SCI-Fi Channel is broadcasting FK at a reasonable time, I'm
hoping that our following will grow...as for the FKFIC-L I thought that
we were going to loose it because the list owner was graduating and
moving on, am I mistaken (I hope so). I was hoping that someone else
would be able to pick up the list (holding breath).
Ann-Lu <ann-lu@i.......>
Cousin,Unnamed Faction,Bunny of the McGregors,NB fan? OOH YEAH!
"They're so noisy, but I love the free food!"
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Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 19:56:40 -0800
From: Muldy Sculler <ffbmh@a.......>
Subject: Re: New Actors for FK characters
So far, very little that TPTB have done could be considered "acceptable".
Barbara
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Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 01:23:07 -0500
From: Cyberspace Vanguard Magazine <vanguard@p.......>
Subject: Re: Off-topic: Video Capturing.
>Anyone here have video capturing hardware? I.e. you can take a stilled
>VCR shot and transfer it to gif or jpeg.
>
>If so, email me. I have a small beg for you. :)
You've probably gotten other responses already, but if not, I've got
it.
---- TJ
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