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Logfile LOG9605C Part 14

May 18-May 19, 1996

File: "FORKNI-L LOG9605C" Part 14

	If someone else wrote FK...
	Why do you watch FK and rambling...
	Why I watch FK (a pseudo-essay by Me)
	FAQ questions needed
	If FK were written by.....
	If someone else wrote FK
	Ger's Audio Books  (4)
	Fwd: Forever Knight merchandise
	If FK were.....
	Help needed
	A sort-of new webpage!
	Why Do YOU Watch FK?
	The End of FK . . . (no spoiler)
	Support Group?  (4)
	Why Do YOU Watch FK?
	FK by other authors thread.
	Canadian 1st season tape?
	Thanx to everybody at the IRC Party/Wake (no spoilers)
	Janette's beginnings (was Re: Janette?)
	Sony Screensaver
	If ??? Wrote FK

Date:         Sat, 18 May 1996 11:39:07 -0700
From:         Robin Carroll-Mann <harper@t.......>
Subject:      If someone else wrote FK...

If Laura Lee Hope wrote FK:

(For the guys on the list: author of the Bobbsey Twins books.)
*Everyone* would be perky.  LaCroix would be a businessman who travelled
around the world being kindly but clueless, while his two sets of
adorable twins (Nick & Nat, Vachon & Tracy) solved mysteries that baffled
the local police.  Sometimes their pet carouche Screed would run away and
get lost, and they would have an adventure looking for him!  Urs and
Reese would be the warm-hearted (but not too bright) housekeeper and
Harper *** Robin Carroll-Mann
harper@t....... OR rcmann@d.......
"Mostly Harmless" -- Douglas Adams
Date:         Sat, 18 May 1996 11:42:44 -0500
From:         Annmarie McKee- Fitzgerald <mickey@c.......>
Subject:      IRC-Undernet


   I hope you all have a great time tonight. I think that there will
certainly be enough virtual parties for those of you who can't attend a
"real life" one!

I spoke to Brian last night, when he came to visit us over on the Undernet
and they will have festivities going on over on EFnet tonight too! So I hope
that you will hop on line and come and visit and we'll have plenty of
tissues available! Both channel are #foreverknight, so whichever server you
can connect to, you only need to select the same channel name, which holds
down the confusion!

For those of you on AOL, you can contact dpgiles@n.......

He has mastered the setup for IRC through AOL! Way to go! And he has
graciously offered to help out any other AOL users that would like to connect.


FOREVER KNIGHT: Now showing on the SciFi Channel Mondays, 8pm, 12am EST
FOREVER KNIGHT SOS/FK: http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
*Cousin*  *Vachon Ogler*  *MPPB* *MPEB* *XPhile*  *DMC*  *PWFC* *MFW
Cavalry* *AA*
***The Mother of Invention *had* to have been a single mother!***
Date:         Sat, 18 May 1996 12:27:50 -0400
From:         cyndi knecht <cknecht@s.......>
Subject:      Re: Why do you watch FK and rambling...

Not because it's a vampire show - until last winter, I would not have
thought it possible to care this much about a show featuring a
"vampire cop."  It's the wonderful combination of story, great acting,
and marvelous production (and all on a shoe-string budget!).

As I wait for the viewer-friendly (not) 1:00am showing on Sunday night/Monday
morning, I think back over this past week.  One friend asked for a few
FK tapes while she's on vacation next week - so I gave her 3.  Another two
wanted AtA - good thing I tape it on both VCR's.  When one of those was
returned, another friend asked for it immediately.  GNP/Crescendo sent my
recent order for 4 FK CD's, which I distributed to those at work who
requested it.   I'm the FK "supplier" for all my friends at work.  Of the 8
people I work with directly, 5 of us are FK fans, 2 of them 3rd season

I'm absolutely enraged and heart-broken that FK hasn't been given a fair
chance to shine.  The basic reasons - poor time slots, almost zero
promotion (and what promotion I saw was misleading), no marketing (as in
merchandise!), hardly anyone in the US
that I know personally knows how to program their VCR, and for some reason
they like to go to bed before midnight or 1:00am in the morning.  If FK
had been treated by USA like FOX has treated the X-Files, it would be a
bona-fide "hit" today.  I firmly and emphatically believe this.

If I can "bring across" 15 people in three months with all the handicaps
mentioned above... STOMP, STOMP, STOMP, KICK!!!  (Sorry, but I'm upset.)

As soon as my printer comes back from the shop, more letters will go out.
I'll keep tilting at windmills.  What's that saying?  "Better to light a
candle than to curse the darkness."

Sorry to ramble,but I had to "unload."  Hugs to everyone.  Cyndi
Date:         Sat, 18 May 1996 11:44:41 -0500
From:         Lady Sushi <phoenix@i.......>
Subject:      Why I watch FK (a pseudo-essay by Me)

        I'm a second-season childe (White Wolf term for a newly turned
vampyre); I don't remember if the first episode I saw was BMV or AMPH
(probably the latter, as the toga stands out in my mind).
        I've studied, read, created, and loved vampyres since I was about
two years old.  It started as an interest, and in the past two years has
turned into a mild obsession.  However, the majority still tend to be
bloodthirsty, maniacal, raving lunatics or old Romanian counts, all as
dimensional as a sheet of tissue paper.  I'd heard of FK in an TV Q&A column
in my local paper, became interested (although frustrated, as times and days
weren't listed), and eventually ran across it one night while playing on my
dad's computer.
        I must admit, I started out as more of a Knightie than a Cousin.
Nick was shown as more developed, he was the primary character, I thought he
was drop-dead gorgeous.  I was also rather depressed at the time, I remember
(seasonal allergies); I could relate.  LaCroix seemed like a grouchy old guy
who just wanted people on a leash.  Nat was just some lady who worked in a
morgue.  I liked Schanke, though.  Schanke was cool; he liked Greek food,
too.  I came into my Cousinliness about three months later, during reruns,
when I began to come back to myself a bit and realized that all of Nick's
angsting annoyed me.
        By now, LaCroix's hold on Nick had become more of guidance than
force, and his bluntly vampyric personality was merely expression of who and
what he was.  I'd also taken a bit of a liking to Janette, although in a lot
of ways I still saw her as a female LaCroix (a bit sharper, a bit more
refined, and with a bit more compassion, but still...).  About here, USA
started advertising FK.  I was ecstatic; I would get to see it twice a week,
and I might meet more people who liked it.
        That was the last time I trusted a network to take something
beautiful and make it in It's Own Image (now you know a major reason why I
was so pessimistic about Kindred).  When I watched Black Buddah 1, I
thought, 'this is okay, but not like last season.  MAybe it'll get better."
It didn't.  I was excited about the OKC bombing being mentioned (I was only
40 miles from the blast site, and the ep made me realise how far the "shock
wave" had actually gone), but it wasn't what I was used to.  I waited,
LaCroix wasn't LaCroix anymore, Schanke was gone.  Nat was depressed or the
like, and Cohen had been killed.  Still, I watched.  It was FK.  It had to
get better.
        In January I finally got the Internet account I'd begged three years
for.  I roamed the web for about a week, and eventually checked for FK.  A
few hours later I was subscribed to some strange lists called FORKNI-L,
FKFIC-L, and FKSPOILR.  My most vivid memories of them include reading
bunches of mail from someone called Wicked Cousin Tippi.  Yes, Tip, you're
one reason I hung around.  You seemed cool.  You are.  All of you are, or
you wouldn't be watching.  The rest, as it may be said, is history, present,
and history yet to be written.
        Now for the main reason I'm writing this:  Why I watch FK.  I can
relate to it.  I've been there, all of it, in my own way.  I know the way
Nick angsts; I'm like that on a seasonal basis.  I understand Nat's
frustration with Nick, how she can love him but still be on the brink of
giving up sometimes, and the way she tolerates with ever-shortening patience
the insults (ignoring her regime, ignoring her, etc.) he flings at her, just
because she wants to help him; I've known it since June 2, 1995, when I
asked Seth out.  I've been Tracy, the new person, trying to make a good
impression and not considered the greatest authority.  I've been Janette,
the meld of amorality and compassion, where nothing stands in the way of
what you need to do and who you need to be, and the dark past which forces
you to go on (different past from Janette's, but shudderingly similar).  I
understand Divia, and how hatred can grow from a seed.  Vachon and his
semi-cynical wonder of the world; Urs' blind, trusting innocence; Screed's
liveliness and enthusiasm for what he is.  Most of all, though, I understand
LaCroix, and how a dark, poetic, cold, and logical shell can be the layers
of stone around a grain of sharp black sand.  I think this may be why all of
us actually watch and love the show, the characters, why we choose factions.
In a way, they aren't figments brought to life by humans, they're us.  They
represent our dreams, hopes, pains, loves and losses, our deepest selves and
what makes us go on to the next day in this broken little world.  In one
word: recognition.
        Though I could be wrong...

* Cousin "Susan" Phoenix * Camera Fanatic of the Thong Throng * LA *
* Charter Unnamed * Cold Shower Sisterhood * SKLed Miklos * Darkest Knightie *
* NatPack Sympathizer * Queen of I Need Sleep * Hot Flash Disguised as a Woman
**Faciemus ut Dewus Mountainus e Tuo Nasone Exeat!**
Date:         Sat, 18 May 1996 16:17:23 -0400
From:         Steve Fellows <MARVIN@d.......>
Subject:      FAQ questions needed

As one or two of you may recall, I'm the person who put together that
big monstrosity of an FAQ that's sitting on the FTP site. With the series
ending and because I now have more time (unemployment does have some
advantages), I'm finally working on the revision.
However, I don't have nearly enough (imho) material on second and third
seasons. What questions do you want answered?
I'm looking for both big important things (how did Nick & Nat meet? or
how vampires are made) as well as smaller concerns (Schanke's favorite
TV show, for example) or episode-specific questions.


Steve F.
Date:         Sat, 18 May 1996 12:30:43 -2055
From:         "L. Katherine Queen" <lqueen@p.......>
Subject:      Re: If FK were written by.....

To those of you who do not have curtain climbers you will not understand my
mirth at this but I am posting it anyway.

In response to Val A. Wirth's post of 8:42 PM, 5/17/96:
>If Forever Knight were written by my four year old daughter:

>>If Forever Knight were written by my six year old daughter:

Janette would still be on the show and would have an even more delectable

All animals seen on the show would live happily-ever-after, irregardless of
species. (We had a few very tense moments in Blind Faith when Nick is
sharpening that stake for Perry)

Tracy would have to wear dresses, and would get even more dialogue.  <I
don't understand it, she's not related to me.  I never saw her before
finding her under that rock...honest.  ;)>

Nick and Natalie would get married and have lots of pretty girls who would
also be forced to wear dresses.

Both LaCroix and Screed would have to sit in eternal time-out.  Bad
Vampires.  Bad Vampires.

Sorry just had to do it.

Katherine, Knightie in mourning
Date:         Sat, 18 May 1996 13:23:40 -0700
From:         Amy R. <akr@m.......>
Subject:      Re: If someone else wrote FK

Twisting things just slightly, if the people who write FK wrote...

Sculley (Nat): There's got to be some kind of a rational explanation!
Mulder (Nick): Evil is a metaphysical condition.

(She walked through the door and dumped her bag on the couch.  Inhaling
deeply the sweetly familiar scent of the lists, she announced, "I'm home!"
The address has changed and she's on digest until she can get a working
filter system, but there's nowhere she'd rather be.  "I missed you guys.")

*** Amy, Lady of the Knight (akr@m.......) ***
"Now cracks a noble heart.  Good night, sweet prince;
And flights of angels sing thee to thy rest!" -- W.S.
Date:         Sat, 18 May 1996 18:52:49 -0500
From:         MARG YAMANAKA <ZEZQ01A@p.......>
Subject:      Ger's Audio Books

-- [ From: Marg Yamanaka * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --

Since we seem to have a bunch of newbies join us recently (Welcome!), I
thought I'd post this again.  Ger Wyn Davies has done 2 audio books. If
you would like to hear his wonderful range of voices and some creepy
stories, I highly recommend them. As a bonus, you get to hear how he
pronounces his own name!

The first book is called "Hauntings" and consists of several short
horror stories by American authors, about 2 1/2 hours in total. These
include "A Watcher by the dead" by Ambrose Bierce, "The Fall of the
House of Usher" by Poe, and 5 others.

The second book, recently released, is called "Forebodings". Running
about 3 hours in length , it includes "The Oval Portrait" by E.A. Poe,
"The Yellow Sign" by Robert Chambers, and 3 other stories.

The books are produced by Tangled Web Audio, which has several other
interesting audio books.

You can find out about prices, etc by e-mailing <
tangled@n.......> or visiting their Website at   http:

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask me
Usual disclaimers. Just a happy customer.

Date:         Sat, 18 May 1996 19:21:26 -0400
From:         Siona <siona@n.......>
Subject:      Re: Ger's Audio Books

On Sat, 18 May 1996, MARG YAMANAKA wrote:

> thought I'd post this again.  Ger Wyn Davies has done 2 audio books. If
> you would like to hear his wonderful range of voices and some creepy
> stories, I highly recommend them. As a bonus, you get to hear how he
> pronounces his own name!

Has anyone else noticed that on the cover of one it says "performed by"
and on the other it says (I think) "read by"?

These are excellent and I recommend them to anyone.

Dark Knightie!
Help save Forever Knight!  see http://www.netaxs.com/~siona/
Date:         Sat, 18 May 1996 19:38:09 -0400
From:         "Meredith E. Pickering" <Plan2@a.......>
Subject:      Fwd: Forever Knight merchandise

In a message dated 96-05-18 15:36:20 EDT, TV_ShowStuff@p....... (ANNE W
MARION) writes:

>Thanks for the note! FK requests are HUGE!!

Above, a portion of the response I received when I e-mailed the TV_ShowStuff
folks asking about FK merchandise.  They also said they're working on it.
 Great job, all - anyone who has not asked for FK merchandise yet, e-mail
them NOW!!!

Natpacker, N&Npacker, Dracpacker
Forwarded message:
From:   TV_ShowStuff@p....... (ANNE W MARION)
To:     Plan2@a.......
Date: 96-05-18 15:36:20 EDT

HI! We are working on getting FK merchandise as I speak. I will keep
your name on a mailing list and once we get confirmation I will email
you. Thanks for your patience. The proper channels unfortunately take
time...  :-(
Thanks for the note! FK requests are HUGE!!
Anne-TV ShowStuff
Date:         Sat, 18 May 1996 18:22:43 -0700
From:         "Val A. Wirth" <valworth@i.......>
Subject:      If FK were.....

Here's a variation on the "If FK were written by" thread.

If Forever Knight was a Barbara Walter's Special:

Nick and Natalie would break down and cry as they described Nick's
struggle to regain his humanity.

Tracy would break down and cry as she described her turbulent
relationship with her father.

And LaCroix would.....Ah hell, LaCroix would never do a Barbara
Walter's Special.

"Who needs reality when you have
internet access."
Date:         Sat, 18 May 1996 23:16:17 -0300
From:         "Leigh T. Johnston" <am496@c.......>
Subject:      Help needed

   I have an idea for my *first* fanfic and was wondering if a few of the
"veteran" writers on the list could e-mail me off-list to tell me if it's
appropriate as I am new to writing and my other venture is more
autobiographical (sp?) than this would be :-)
   Also (and I *think* this fills the ObFk requirement) where are the
Raven, Nick's loft and the police station in respect to each other? And
can FK vampires contact each other without using the phone or being in
direct physical proximity to each other?

   Thank you all and if I've bent any list rules I apologise in advance
of the notices.

- Leigh (Ghoti)  **Immortal Beloved/Valentine/Merc**
Date:         Sat, 18 May 1996 22:45:38 -0400
From:         Carrie Krumtum <CKrumtum@g.......>
Subject:      Re: Ger's Audio Books

>Has anyone else noticed that on the cover of one it says "performed by"
>and on the other it says (I think) "read by"?

"Hauntings" is introduced by Ger as "Read by Geraint Wyn Davies".
"Forebodings" is ended with a blurb by Ger that mentions "Hauntings" and Ger
says "which I also perform". I think between recording the first and second
collection it dawned on someone that Ger doesn't just read the stories. what
he does is far from reading. Beyond the wonderful range of his voice is the
inflection, the tone he brings to these stories. My personal favorite is "The
Upper Berth" on the "Forebidings" collection. I could listen to that story
performed by Ger over and over again.

To put another way, they are simply wonderful. If you haven't gotten them,
do. They are a real treat.

Carrie, Slovenly Knightie AKA Carrie the Cruel
It's hard to judge someone when you're blinded by your love for them.
--Mother Teresa
Date:         Sat, 18 May 1996 22:47:51 +0000
From:         Karen Tobin <ktobin@t.......>
Subject:      A sort-of new webpage!


Well, I'm sitting here all alone waiting for Last Knight to come on
(3hrs to go). I had hoped to go to one of the area LK parties, but I
got sick, so I"m home with the cat. I wanted to do something useful
with my time, so I decided to get my webpage up. It's only sort of
new because I'm the one who took Heather up on her offer of a few
months ago to assume responsibility for her "Forever Knight Sub-Home
Page." It has been redesigned and rechristened. I hope to continue
adding to it! So please come visit The De Brabant Library" at

I'm also changing the address of the SOS-FK Library of Addresses to:

Karen, Knightie/Heartbreaker (ktobin@t.......,
Reference Librarian, Save Forever Knight Campaign/Almighty Address Goddess
Forever Knight has been cancelled. To help, email me
and/or visit: http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
Date:         Sat, 18 May 1996 23:15:19 -0500
From:         MARG YAMANAKA <ZEZQ01A@p.......>
Subject:      Re: Why Do YOU Watch FK?

-- [ From: Marg Yamanaka * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --

> even approach this.  Witty, *inteligent* dialog, a protagonist with a
> QUEST rivaling that of the Holy Grail, a gorgeous *INTELLIGENT* woman to
> help him in that quest (the romantic side of that was great, too.), and a

Does anyone know if TPTB are still reading this list? I hope someone is
collecting these responses (I'm not, I didn't think of it in time)
.Could someone print these off and mail them to TriStar, Sony, USA,

Date:         Sun, 19 May 1996 00:46:33 -0400
From:         Nathanial Cook <NatRobin@a.......>
Subject:      Re: The End of FK . . . (no spoiler)


nat (raven -- close to death)
Date:         Sat, 18 May 1996 22:09:08 -0700
From:         Ida K Egenberger <egenberi@w.......>
Subject:      Support Group?

Has there been a support group formed yet because god knows I *really*
need one right now. It is still 2 and a half hours before the end is near
and I've already gone through a pint of Ben & Jerry's with chocolate
fudge and the works not to mention the last 2 Klondikes in the freezer. I
can't say the sobbing started today because that began around an hour
before Ashes to Ashes. And to top it all off, John Kapelos conveniently
popped on Home Improvement this week for all of 5 seconds and that
Goosebumps commercial for 'The Mask' came on with Kathryn Long who plays
Divia. I need HELP!!!!!!
We need something, a 12 step program, Knighties Anonymous, Cousins
Anonymous, I'll join them all. I'll be over at the warm fuzzies page for
the next 2 hours with my other pint of Chunky Monkey if anyone needs me.

Ida Egenberger
Date:         Sun, 19 May 1996 01:12:13 -0400
From:         Nathanial Cook <NatRobin@a.......>
Subject:      Re: Why Do YOU Watch FK?

Time for me to join!!!

>Granted, we've got some pretty good genre TV on right now.  So why did you
watch FK?

We *had* some good genre stuff.  Most of its not as good as FK was.

>Did you watch it more for the vampire than the cop shop?
>More copshop than vampire?
>Equal time to both?

Though I think that neither one was the primary reason, I'd say that vampires
played the most important part.  Way back when, I used to see FK listed in
the TV guide, but I was imagining that it was just another one of those
late-night-halfass-soft-porn TV shows like "Silk Stalkings," et al.  Then, I
was reading a silly book called "The Complete Vampire Companion," and it gave
a synopsis of FK.  So, I soon checked the show out (it was the middle of the
second season) and started to really like it.

Later on, to tie in with what many others have said, it was the combination
of the look, the character interplay, the intelligent writing, and the music
that kept me interested.

>Did you want more flashbacks?
>Less flashbacks?
>Equal time to flashbacks and current day?

I think they did the flashback just about right, timewise.

>Would you have liked to see historical stories with no current day (or very

Possibly, but only once in a while.  As someone else said, I think it was the
relationship of the events of the past and the present that made it all work.

>Would you have liked non-historical flashbacks (like C&C or STF)?

I'm not sure.  I guess if they were done well.

>Did you watch for one character in particular and which one?

No.  Not any one, but the standouts were Nick, LaCroix, Janette, and Natalie.

Did you watch for one relationship pair in particular and which one?  Or more
than one?

Has to be the Nick/Natalie relationship (I'm a romantic), though the
interactions of all the characters were interesting, to say the least.  I
think that they could've been a little less reserved with some of them,
though, a little less coy with the romances.

>Yes, these points may seem moot as we view the final episode, but the novels
will be coming up.  God only knows what the content will be at this point.
 Or if people will even be interested in reading FK after the last episode
airs.  But I'm kind of curious.

Anyone know who is writing these?  And for what company?

Well, that's my too sense for now.  Thanks fer lissening.

NAT!!!  (Mortal Raven)
Date:         Sun, 19 May 1996 01:45:33 -0400
From:         Melissa Puzio <miss68@p.......>
Subject:      Re: Support Group?

I just watched Last Knight at 10pm, All I can say is (and there will be NO
spoliers here) I need a group hug!!!!!!!

Cousin Mel
*NatVampCamp*Valentine*Chiante Drinking Member of the Thong Throng*
*High Priestess of Jagrism at Temple Nedved*
miss68@p......., Penchk68@a......., or CousinMel@p.......
Date:         Sat, 18 May 1996 22:11:56 -0800
From:         Muldy Sculler <ffbmh@a.......>
Subject:      Re: Ger's Audio Books

Greetings all,
What GWD does is called ORAL INTERPRETATION.  He is one of the best I
have heard--I do it and I teach it.  I hope he expands the work he is
doing.  What stories would you suggest?  Classic or modern.  I would like
to hear NB oi the Carroll stories.
GWD interprets _David Copperfield_, just a thought.  Hey, Tangled
Web--you out there?
Date:         Sun, 19 May 1996 03:12:47 -0300
From:         "Leigh T. Johnston" <am496@c.......>
Subject:      Janette?

  I have one stupid question first. Why is it that NBC insists on showing
commercials for during an ep, saying that the ep they are showing is the
"next Forever Knight"? 'Tis tres annoying!
  OK, I've been wondering for quite a while now what were the
circumstances (sp?) of Janette being brought across. I've only seen half
of first season and one ep from second so I missed the flashback, if
there were any, where LC brought her across. Could someone fill me in? I
know I'm a newbie, but I feel like a *major* newbie asking that. Thanks
in advance!

- Leigh (Ghoti)  **Immortal Beloved/Merc**
Date:         Sun, 19 May 1996 02:16:38 -0400
From:         Melanie Moser <moser@c.......>
Subject:      Re: Support Group?

On Sun, 19 May 1996, Melissa Puzio wrote:

> I just watched Last Knight at 10pm, All I can say is (and there will be NO
> spoliers here) I need a group hug!!!!!!!
> Cousin Mel
> *NatVampCamp*Valentine*Chiante Drinking Member of the Thong Throng*
> *High Priestess of Jagrism at Temple Nedved*
> miss68@p......., Penchk68@a......., or CousinMel@p.......

If you are still online, join us in IRC at #foreverknight.  It's
2:15am EST and I think we'll be there for awhile.  I'm logging
the session.

Mel Moser
N&NPacker, moser@c.......
Check out my Forever Knight Fan Fiction page at:
Date:         Sun, 19 May 1996 04:01:52 -0400
From:         A McLaughlin <Iremi@a.......>
Subject:      FK by other authors thread.

LOLOLOLOL!!!! You people are not only funny but very well read. I'm jealous
cause I can't think of any literary spoofs myself.
Speaking of FK as Rosencrantz and Gilderstern. I'd love to see Nigel and
Geraint do the Play " R&G are dead" by Stoppard. It would be hysterical.
A McLaughlin
Date:         Sun, 19 May 1996 03:07:39 -0700
From:         "B. Janine Morison" <morison@a.......>
Subject:      Re: Support Group?

> Ida Egenberger wrote:
> We need something, a 12 step program, Knighties Anonymous, Cousins
> Anonymous, I'll join them all. I'll be over at the warm fuzzies page for
> the next 2 hours with my other pint of Chunky Monkey if anyone needs me.

 I just watched Last Knight (snif snif... pass the Ben & Jerry !)
 I need to join Knighties Anonymous.  What is a Knightie who is
 also a cousin to do after that episode?


 Knightie in pain/cousin
Date:         Sun, 19 May 1996 03:22:27 -0700
From:         "B. Janine Morison" <morison@a.......>
Subject:      Canadian 1st season tape?

 Hi all-

 I still have not heard from anyone who is willing to help me get
 1st season Canadian eps in good condition.  I will provide tapes
 and return postage.  Plleeaase, pretty please with ribena on top.

 sad knightie/cousin
Date:         Tue, 21 May 1996 08:18:50 -0400
From:         Chana Rossman <bonney@i.......>
Subject:      Thanx to everybody at the IRC Party/Wake (no spoilers)

Hi everybody

Just a note of thanks to everyone who visited the Virtual FK Last
Knight/Wake on the IRC.  It was great getting to meet you all.  We
came up with some great ideas, shared the loss of a really great show,
and basically had a good time.

I hate to single anybody out because everyone was so wonderful.  But
I want to offer special thanks to:
  * Ridinghd (who took ops while I watched FK LK)
  * Mickey who gave us a place to hang out
  * Vanguard and Sorcha who stayed for the whole party

I am particularly grateful to Sorcha who orignated The Sorcha Theory to
Explain LK, a theory which I am currently clinging to like -er- a lichen
to a stone.  (How often do you get to use that expression in a

Anyway, thanks again to everybody for making my Last Knight
night bearable.

Chana Rossman
* I have been one acquainted with the [K]night *

FYI:  Here's a partial list of those who attended the party.
BeckyB         Chana (me!)    CKrumtum
CyberGeek      DkNight        ezfool
hard           KarenT         Klutz
Libby          looker         Mad_Fax_S
Mickey         MRB            Nightmist
Nytshadow      RavenBear      Ridinghd
ruggy          Seatown        Sorcha
Soulseeker     Tigga          Vanguard
Wacko          Wintermut      XYZ
Date:         Sun, 19 May 1996 09:53:58 -0500
From:         D Echelbarger <gryphon@e.......>
Subject:      Janette's beginnings (was Re: Janette?)

On Sun, 19 May 1996, "Leigh T. Johnston" <am496@c.......> wrote:
>  OK, I've been wondering for quite a while now what were the
>circumstances (sp?) of Janette being brought across. I've only seen half
>of first season and one ep from second so I missed the flashback, if
>there were any, where LC brought her across.

Thanks, Leigh! I just finished watching "Last Knight" and a nice, ordinary
second-season question like this is *just* what I need. :)

Janette was a whore in Paris.  10th century, I *think*.  LaCroix kept her from
being raped by a couple of soldiers, then followed her back to her pimp's house
and brought her over.  He didn't give her a lot of details, just promised
"Without your permission, no merely *mortal* man will ever touch you again" and
she went to him.  The next flashback we see is Janette's first kill-- her
ex-pimp.  I cheered, I really did. (The SOB had just beaten another whore to
death because she had the nerve to get pregnant, and was in the process of
raping a 'new girl' so she'd have to work for him...)

The episode is "Fate Worse Than Death". Wonderful 2nd season ep, one of my

More details by private e-mail, if you want.

Diane E
# D Echelbarger                        gryphon@e.......  #
#   WWW HomePage:    http://www.execpc.com/~echelbar/      #
# "Death cannot stop True Love"  Wesley, _Princess Bride_  #
Date:         Sun, 19 May 1996 13:29:50 -0400
From:         Breeze <nyim@g.......>
Subject:      Re: YKYBWTMFK

You know you'be been watching too much Forever Knight when...

        You walk by a sign announcing the latest shows at an auditorium
and one of the shows is a magic show and one of the magicians is named....
"Nicolas Night!"  And you say to yourself, "Oh, so that's what Nick would
be  - a magician - if he wasn't a cop." :)  At least he can explain his
"flying" and other "tricks." ;-)

Nancy Breeze    @>--'---http://gwis2.circ.gwu.edu/~nyim---`--<@

"There can be only one."  "I am immortal.  I have in me blood of kings."

"You endanger the masquarade."          "The truth is out there."
                             /""\_/"\      ,,,
Die-Hard     The Garden      | #==#========#  |
LUNAtic                      \__/"\_/      ```

Date:         Sun, 19 May 1996 14:13:36 -0400
From:         Lane Lombardia <longpath@n.......>
Subject:      Re: Sony Screensaver

On 17-5-96 at 18:14, Nancy McCaskey <mccaskn@p.......> wrote:

>The Official Sony Web Page now has an FK screensaver available in Windows
>or Mac format.


>Has anyone downloaded and tried it?  Is it any good?  (I tried to install
>it but don't have Windows, so it wouldn't work).

I have downloaded and am using the Macintosh version; but, have not seen
the Windows version.
The Macintosh version is flawed by having a fixed border, which
essentially defeats the purpose of having a screen saver. It involves the
Forever Knight title (purple lettering for "Forever" and red for
"Knight") bouncing across a white screen of a fictitious television (the
border I mentioned). The TV has "www.sony.com" at the bottom, probably to
remind us of who we should blame for allowing the cancellation of Forever
Knight. Wasn't that considerate of them?

I do like the basic concept; however, and will probably spend the next
few days seeing if I can't hack into it to remove the border, and change
the color scheme. If that works, I will attempt to use some of the
Forever Knight quicktime movies in additional FK screensaver modules.
I'll let you all know how it goes.

If a Windows programmer would care to collaberate with me, we could try
to do something similar for Windows/Intel based computers.

Finally, since I'm still waiting for the PowerPC native version of Linux
to come out (due out this Summer for Nubus based Power Macintoshes), I
have not yet had the opportunity to see how UNIX machines handle
screensavers, and would appreciate any input.


Lane Lombardia
Date:         Sun, 19 May 1996 13:08:35 -0500
From:         Mad Hatter <cli7@s.......>
Subject:      hi

back again;
and lost D-drive partition-something, missing
20-some megs data incl my on-line stuff!
where can i find the FK soundtrack samples
on the net again?
Date:         Sun, 19 May 1996 12:19:24 -0700
From:         Abby <albrecht@s.......>
Subject:      Re: If ??? Wrote FK

Yup, I'm finally getting to this... (And Perri, I *will* get you later!)

If Michael Ende wrote FK:
Nat would be a princess who was dying of a strange illness that had only
one cure. Nick would be sent all over creation (with the help of Perry the
flying dog) to find the cure. During his adventures he would meet Reese
the Rock Biter who could never quite hold on long enough, Schanke and his
Racing Snail, Vachon and his sleepy bat, Aristotle the wise turtle, and
who can forget the two loveable gnomes, cohen and stonetree... Janette
would, of course, be the sphinx that Nick came to for all of his answers
(as always). Throughout his mission he would have to deal with LaCroix,
the Nothing's minion, who's one goal was to stop Nick from saving Nat and
the kingdom from destruction. Nick would learn, with LaCroix's help, that
all Nat needed was a new name and the faith of a real person. Real Nick,
would have been reading everything that has occured from a book he stole,
and would know exactly what to do. He would shout his dead mother's name
out (which no one would be able to understand, even with closed
captioning). And everyone would live happily ever after...

abby -- Mercenary of the Knight
albrecht@c.......   Down the hall  lThe first Merc Knightie
eponymous2@a.......       Turn right!    lDDEB3, Duchovniks, NLEB, and more

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