FORKNI-L
Logfile LOG9604B Part 2
April 7, 1996
File: "FORKNI-L LOG9604B" Part 2
TOPICS:
Difference in FK from Beginning to Now (2)
Seducers and Prodigals (was Re: The Unnamed)
SCI-FI and FK pilot
Janette as Mother (was Re: Nick's first night) (4)
LIST RULES: NO SPOILERS HERE
Is DoN Fair Game? (2)
FK vs. Kindred.....
Bye!!!! (2)
NetRatings for Forever Knight
Nick's a wimp? No
Tracy is Nick Jr.
No one. . .
FK Commercial on SFC
Nick's children (2)
Liking Third Season (4)
Let me clear this up... (2)
Blood Donation
Weirdstuff/other junk
New affiliation
St. Louis folks?
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 14:45:15 -0700
From: Lisa Reeves <ad483@d.......>
Subject: Re: Difference in FK from Beginning to Now
Dotti Rhodes wrote:
> this last season. No, you can't bring Schanke back, but perhaps lighten up
> the scripts a little here and there, lighten up Nick and Nat a little, and
> bring the focus back a little. But, even if they don't change it at all, I'd
> love to have it back.
In the infamous popcorn throwing scene, I sat there and -stared-. Nat told
Nick to forget anything she ever said about him being human, since he was
laughing at her for crying over King Kong. Third season Nick wouldn't have
laughed at that...he'd have spiraled into a hopeless depression.
--
Lisa Reeves @-->--->--- | ad483@d.......
GDFN Help Staff Co-Administrator | Mercenary for Chocolate
Save Forever Knight! Site for details:
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 13:19:07 -0700
From: AKR <r@w.......>
Subject: Seducers and Prodigals (was Re: The Unnamed)
> The Unnamed - I like this!
Not that I have any say, because I *don't* want Nick and LC together any
more than cannot be avoided, but I'm still pulling for "Prodigals,"
because it conveys something about the *nature of the relationship.*
> I didn't say anything before, but I do like "The Seducers"
> ....but as a Deadly Team faction - LC and Janette
This is very good, imho.
On the other hand, I've never really appreciated LC's relationship with
Janette. It is even more proprietary than his relationship with Nick. I
don't like the way he touches her, and, with one notable exception, I've
never liked the way he speaks to her. He takes Janette too much for
granted, and doesn't respect her even as much as he respects Nick, who
has had the gall to resist him. This is probably due, in part, to the
weight of two-thousand years of his experience of cultures oppressing
their women... but that's no excuse.
******* Amy, Lady of the Knight (AKR) r@w....... *******
"Why are you looking among the dead for one who is alive?" --Luke 24:5
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 13:11:14 0800
From: Dann Lunsford <dann@g.......>
Subject: SCI-FI and FK pilot
I just took a look at the Sci-Fi channel's schedulebot, and I am confused
(which, come to think of it, is my normal state of mind). I had thought
from various postings here on the list, and in the newsgroups, that
they were going to show the pilot episodes before they started with the
final 3rd season eps (an incredibly *bad* choice, IMNSHO), but apparently
not. So, when? Don't want to miss the pilots!
re: LAST EPISODE SPOILER.
If this is in any way correct, I may vamp out on a few writers, and
I'm a vegetarian! How DARE they do this? Are TPTB so dead set against
FK that they want to eliminate even the possibility of continuance?
WHY? ARRRRRGGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!
--
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* Dann Lunsford * The only thing necessary for the triunph of evil *
* dann@g....... * is that men of good will do nothing. -- Cicero *
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 13:27:52 -0700
From: AKR <r@w.......>
Subject: Janette as Mother (was Re: Nick's first night)
Sandra wrote:
> I'd call [Serena's] continued existence a case of Nick bringing someone
> over successfully myself.
Point. :) I keep forgetting Serena... :) Anybody want to copy BB? :)
However, if Nick is capable of bringing people across successfully, then
so must be Janette. However, she has never brought anyone across. In
IWR, she gives Nick two reasons. 1) She's just not the mothering type.
That, I think, can be conclusively refuted, by the very nature of the
Raven and by FF, not to mention ykw. 2) She's too much of a glutton.
So, do we buy that? Is that the reason Janette has no children?
******* Amy, Lady of the Knight (AKR) r@w....... *******
"Why are you looking among the dead for one who is alive?" --Luke 24:5
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 16:51:24 -0400
From: Jamie Melody Randell <immajer@p.......>
Subject: LIST RULES: NO SPOILERS HERE
For those who are new, and those who may have forgotten:
NO SPOILERS are to be posted to the FORKNI-L list.
Any and all discussion of recently aired AND UNAIRED episodes must take
place on the sister list, FKSPOILR. (Note spelling: no "e")
You can subscribe to the spoiler list the same way you subscribed to this
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Yourlastname" (omit quotes)
Please note that if you are discussing an unaired episode on FKSPOILR, you
should leave spoiler space and place the episode name in the subject line.
If any of this is unclear to anyone, feel free to e-mail me for
clarification. <immajer@p.......>
But do NOT post spoilers here, please.
Thank you.
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Illustrated Webgoddess & Keeper of Warm Fuzzies
"I may do what I have done. I may smash the hollow rock
without breaking stride and splinter the glitter inside
all over a midnight street." -- L.F.
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 13:59:03 -0700
From: AKR <r@w.......>
Subject: Is DoN Fair Game?
I missed the syndicated rerun last night. "Fever" was last week, so was
it "Dead of Night"? Is DoN out of spoiler protection now? I just saw it
for the first time on Friday (on tape) and I have questions...
******* Amy, Lady of the Knight (AKR) r@w....... *******
"Why are you looking among the dead for one who is alive?" --Luke 24:5
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 16:04:15 -0500
From: D Echelbarger <gryphon@e.......>
Subject: Re: Is DoN Fair Game?
>I missed the syndicated rerun last night. "Fever" was last week, so was
>it "Dead of Night"? Is DoN out of spoiler protection now? I just saw it
>for the first time on Friday (on tape) and I have questions...
We didn't get "Fever" here, we got "Sons of Belial". And this week, it was
"Strings".
Has anybody watching on syndication actually *seen* "Fever" a second time? I
haven't...
Diane E
# D Echelbarger gryphon@e....... #
# WWW HomePage: http://www.execpc.com/~echelbar/ #
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 17:11:12 -0400
From: Janette Z <Janette92@a.......>
Subject: Re: FK vs. Kindred.....
In a message dated 96-04-06 04:28:41 EDT, you write:
>This is a Forever Knight list first and foremost. Anything else listed here
>is in comparison to FK. Most of us feel FK is superior to Kindred and don't
>like Kindred for many reasons and chief among them is the fact that FK is a
>better show. If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.
Okay..... I've talked about the Kindred, I happen to LIKE the Kindred,
though I LOVE FK, but if I hear one more word about KTE I think I'm going to
throw up!!!! I am tired of deleting every single message that has mention of
"that other show" Can we PLEASE just stop talking about it?
Ravenette, Immortal Beloved,
Seducer, CO-CFW for Evil
MacLeod, Richie Reservist,
Janette92@a.......
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 17:20:40 -0400
From: Janette Z <Janette92@a.......>
Subject: Bye!!!!
Okay, people, I have to leave you all for a few weeks, <sniff> too much
mail!!!!! I still haven't heard from all the people who wanted a
Nightcrawler tape, so to those of you who haven't responded yet, PLEASE
DO!!!! If anyone needs to reach me, just e-mail me privately. See you all
in a few weeks, hope you can survive without me :) BTW: Someone e-mailed me
not that long ago and was going to beta-read for my 2nd story (a Seducer one
:) But I lost her address, if you think this is you would you please e-mail
me?
Ravenette, Immortal Beloved,
Seducer, CO-CFW for Evil
MacLeod, Richie Reservist,
Janette92@a....... (or is it com?)
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 16:51:48 -0500
From: Jeff Standish <jestandi@c.......>
Subject: NetRatings for Forever Knight
This Week's Syndicated Episode: #312, Strings
People close to an emotionally-disturbed singer begin turning up murdered.
Last Week's Syndicated Episode: #311, Sons of Belial
After witnessing an exorcism, Nick becomes possessed by the expelled demon.
Season 3 Episodes Rating Max Min StdDev # Votes
----------------------------------- ------ ----- ----- ------ -------
301 The Black Buddha, Part 1 6.80 10.00 3.00 1.48 55
302 The Black Buddha, Part 2 6.93 10.00 3.00 1.47 50
303 Outside the Lines 5.60 9.00 1.00 1.93 42
304 Blackwing 7.65 10.00 3.00 1.63 50
305 Blind Faith 6.47 10.00 1.00 2.15 44
306 My Boyfriend is a Vampire 7.79 10.00 4.00 1.45 51
307 Hearts of Darkness 6.49 10.00 3.00 1.68 44
308 Trophy Girl 6.64 10.00 1.00 1.98 37
309 Let No Man Tear Asunder 7.37 10.00 3.00 1.59 43
310 Night in Question 9.41 10.00 2.00 1.19 62
311 Sons of Belial 9.20 10.00 6.00 1.04 51
312 Strings 6.85 10.00 3.00 1.59 28
313 Fever 9.50 10.00 7.50 0.79 33
314 Dead of Night 8.80 10.00 6.00 1.01 29
315 The Games Vampires Play 7.98 10.00 3.00 1.69 26
316 The Human Factor 8.14 10.00 2.00 2.20 29
317 Avenging Angel 6.14 8.00 1.00 1.92 11
318 Fallen Idol 7.50 10.00 5.00 1.45 12
Number of Episodes: 18
Votes per Episode: 38.72
Average Rating: 7.51
Weighted Average: 7.58
Rating is the average rating from those gathered to date.
Max is the highest rating received.
Min is the lowest rating received.
StdDev is the standard deviation of the collected ratings.
# Votes is the total number of votes counted for that episode.
How does it work?
E-mail me (jestandi@c.......) your vote for a given episode,
telling me the name of the episode and how you would rate it on a
scale of 1 (lowest) to 10 (highest). If you don't know the name of
an episode, you can check out the episode guide at:
http://www.hu.mtu.edu/~gjwalli/FK/Episodes/episode_guide.html
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Jeff Standish The concept is simply
jestandi@c....... staggering. Pointless,
http://www.cs.indiana.edu/hyplan/jestandi.html but staggering. -Dr. Who
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 17:47:26 -0500
From: Annmarie McKee- Fitzgerald <mickey@c.......>
Subject: Nick's a wimp? No
Sandra wrote:
Nick is not a wimp. He's been both physically and mentally abused by
control-freak LC for centuries. Is it any wonder he's been damaged
psychologically? But, DESPITE his treatment, Nick has managed to
cling to that better side of himself <SNIP>
Although I don't think that Nick is neccesarily a wimp, but, I am sick of
the excuse "Its the way they were treated as a child". Nick is far from
being a fledgling now, he is an adult and an adult vampire. He could have
snipped the apron strings with LC, long ago. Yes, I know that he has tried
to get away from him on occasion, but right now I think what we are seeing
is them coming to an understanding with one another. I also think that this
is responsible for his disagreements with Nat. He no longer needs Nat as a
"crutch". He has experienced many losses in the past year and he has
survived them. I think that LC has come to realize this too and is allowing
him to stand on his own. Nick is realizing though that it isn't really a bad
thing to want to have one's parents around. Its a natural cycle of events,
even in humans. And just as many have detested an overbearing mother-in-law,
Nat resents LC's hold on Nick. But this season we have seen LC come to
Nick's aid and Nat has had to except it, just as we have seen Nat comes to
Nick's and LC has had to take the backseat. Each of them are starting to
realize that there is no sense fighting over him, he really isn't theirs to
fight over and I think that he has made this more apparent to both of them.
For me, Nick's biggest dilemma is the fact that (I think) he enjoys being a
vampire. He gets a kick out of it and he likes the powers that come along as
perks. He's a better cop for them and he has saved quite a few humans with
their usage. But still, he wants his mortality, or, does he? It would mean
the loss of the perks. It would be harder for him to redeem himself without
them. So long as he is ingesting cow blood, he has no guilt. Sure, he can't
"have" Nat, but thats a neccesary sacrifice right now.
Annmarie
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 17:14:35 -0500
From: Dotti Rhodes <dottir@w.......>
Subject: Re: Tracy is Nick Jr.
>Nick: Really? (Immediately stops crying and whiskers perk up) Happy,
>happy, joy, joy!
Oh, Jill - we're getting really sick now......excuse me - yes she'll take
the white one with the long sleeves. Could you help her with the buckles
please?
Dotti R
Knightie 4-Ever
dottir@w.......
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 17:17:23 -0500
From: Dotti Rhodes <dottir@w.......>
Subject: Re: Difference in FK from Beginning to Now
At 02:45 PM 4/7/96 -0700, Lisa wrote:
>
>In the infamous popcorn throwing scene, I sat there and -stared-. Nat told
>Nick to forget anything she ever said about him being human, since he was
>laughing at her for crying over King Kong. Third season Nick wouldn't have
>laughed at that...he'd have spiraled into a hopeless depression.
>
My point exactly!! Yes!! But I don't even think 3rd season Nat would have
been there in the first place.....
Dotti R
Knightie 4-Ever
dottir@w.......
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 17:44:19 -0500
From: Dotti Rhodes <dottir@w.......>
Subject: Re: Janette as Mother (was Re: Nick's first night)
At 01:27 PM 4/7/96 -0700, Amy wrote:
>
>
> However, she has never brought anyone across.
Hold it - Janette brought across the Baroness in If Looks Could Kill don't
forget. I'm not sure if she did it because she wanted to or if she wanted to
piss him off or if she really felt she was helping the Baroness stay
gorgeous forever - but we know she did it at least once. (Now watch, with my
luck everyone will find me in fault somewhere in this--VBG)
>
Dotti R
Knightie 4-Ever
dottir@w.......
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 19:06:48 -0500
From: Stephanie Babbitt <stephanie.babbitt@g.......>
Subject: Re: No one. . .
>Anyone remember that bit of song that goes "No one sucks like Vachon,
>scorns big bucks like Vachon," (no flaming, just quoting, so all you
>Vacheros with sharp objects, please calm down). What ever happened to
>that?
It's done. I posted it to the FKFIC-L list. If anyone isn't subscribed to
that list and wants a copy, please e-mail me privately.
Stephanie Babbitt (stephanie.babbitt@g.......)
Vaquera
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 15:54:07 -0700
From: AKR <r@w.......>
Subject: Re: Janette as Mother (was Re: Nick's first night)
> > However, she has never brought anyone across.
> Hold it - Janette brought across the Baroness in If Looks Could Kill.
We went over this in such detail that Katja posted the transcript of the
missing CAN scene from IWR. Some kind person described her nice,
explanatory fanfic piece that I forgot to save the post for so that I
could look it up. (Hello?) Her explanation, which I wholeheartedly
endorse, was that LC had to pull "glutton" Janette off the Baroness and
finish the job himself, to keep her from killing the Baroness entirely.
******* Amy, Lady of the Knight (AKR) r@w....... *******
"Why are you looking among the dead for one who is alive?" --Luke 24:5
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 19:00:04 -0400
From: Jamie Melody Randell <immajer@p.......>
Subject: FK Commercial on SFC
Was watching SciFi, y'know, waiting for the cool love scene in the
maintenance corridor of the Millennium Falcon? (Can't see too many Star
Wars reruns.)
And what do I see but the coolest FK commercial?
Geez, I hope SOMEONE got it on tape. I didn't, and it was really neat.
And of course now I'm watching Luke an' Yoda, and having visions of Nick
and Nat:
"I cannot cure this one. Much anger in him, like his father. Blood... a
mortal craves not these things..."
--
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Illustrated Webgoddess & Keeper of Warm Fuzzies
"I may do what I have done. I may smash the hollow rock
without breaking stride and splinter the glitter inside
all over a midnight street." -- L.F.
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 18:00:52 -0500
From: D Echelbarger <gryphon@e.......>
Subject: Re: Janette as Mother (was Re: Nick's first night)
> Some kind person described her nice,
>explanatory fanfic piece that I forgot to save the post for so that I
>could look it up. (Hello?)
That was me. <g> And I forwarded that post to Dotti, just now, so she's up to
speed with the rest of us.
Glad you thought it would work. I never actually *wrote* it, though....
Diane E
# D Echelbarger gryphon@e....... #
# WWW HomePage: http://www.execpc.com/~echelbar/ #
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 19:41:13 -0400
From: "Alora C. Chistiakoff" <acc0924@i.......>
Subject: Re: Nick's children
On Sun, 7 Apr 1996, in reference to her husbands observations while
watching first season, Dotti Rhodes wrote:
> Anyone noticed how many unstable women live in Toronto?
> For every unstable guy Nick's gone after, there must be 3-5 wacko ladies.
> Does it have something to do with the air quality??
Well, since most of us going up there at the end of the month to see
Taming of the Shrew are women, we (along with the Toronto PD) better hope
not...
Alora
Natpacker
acc0924@i.......
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 17:01:33 -0700
From: AKR <r@w.......>
Subject: Liking Third Season
As third season brought me across, I thought I'd say something in its
defense. I, too, think that the first nine episodes are generally somewhat
lacking in that *special something,* but... I hereby issue a challenge to
find something nice in every third-season episode. Here're mine:
1-2 "Black Buddha" -- Vachon's shower scene (for Bonnie <g>)
3 "Outside the Lines" --(tough) --the "Phantom" banner outside the building
4 "Blackwing" -- (needs no defense) -- complex distribution of guilt
5 "Blind Faith" -- wonderful guest actress
6 "MBIAV" -- Nat standing up for herself with Nick
7 "HoD" -- Urs's origin
8 "Trophy Girl" -- flashback! "Intoxicating, wasn't she?"
9 "LNMTA" -- Nick likes the whole package just the way it is <g>
10 "Night in Question" -- (needs no defense!) -- dream sequence
11 "Sons of Belial" -- (needs no defense!) -- scene in the Raven
12 "Strings" -- flashback: "And you are under...?"
13 "Fever" -- (needs no defense!) -- Nightcrawler's monologue, natch
14 Oh, this would be spoiler territory, wouldn't it? I'll stop here.
******* Amy, Lady of the Knight (AKR) r@w....... *******
"Why are you looking among the dead for one who is alive?" --Luke 24:5
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 20:06:30 -0400
From: Vampire Junction <vampires@a.......>
Subject: Let me clear this up...
Basically what I meant to say was that if you don't like Kindred based upon
it's own merits That's fine with me. But to consistently compare it with
another show, FK or not, it completely unfair. Ie...I don't compare the
original Star Trek (cancelled due to poor ratings) with Next Generation.
They are NOT the same show and therefor there is no reason to compare them.
I just don't see any reason for comparing Kindred with FK or even say, Dark
Shadows, or Dracula: The Series. That's sort of like saying your work
isn't any good because your sister made a better grade than you. I didn't
judge FK when I first saw it against The New Dark Shadows (which had already
been cancelled by then). If I had, I probably wouldn't have tuned in in
the first place. I have absolutely no problems watching and enjoying
*both* shows.
My god, what a novel idea, to give a vamp show other than FK a fighting
chance.
As far as all the Kindred bashing goes, I've heard the same things said
about FK on alt.vampyres etc...for the last two years. I didn't listen to
them either.
"The walls of my castle are cracked, the shadows many. But come in.
Feel yourself at home. ---Carlos Villarias: Spanish version of DRACULA
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 20:24:07 -0500
From: Cyberspace Vanguard Magazine <vanguard@p.......>
Subject: Re: Bye!!!!
> Okay, people, I have to leave you all for a few weeks, <sniff> too much
>mail!!!!! I still haven't heard from all the people who wanted a
Sorry to see you go! We await your return with baited breath ...
>Nightcrawler tape, so to those of you who haven't responded yet, PLEASE
>DO!!!! If anyone needs to reach me, just e-mail me privately. See you all
I don't think I was on the original list, but I'd love a copy. What do I have
to do?
---- TJ
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 17:22:26 -0700
From: Cynthia Hoffman <choff@v.......>
Subject: Re: Liking Third Season
Amy issued a challenge. Here's my response:
> lacking in that *special something,* but... I hereby issue a challenge to
> find something nice in every third-season episode. Here're mine:
> 1-2 "Black Buddha" -- Vachon's shower scene (for Bonnie <g>)
Um ... um ... um ... okay. For Bonnie. But I think I liked the sewer
scenes better.
> 3 "Outside the Lines" --(tough) --the "Phantom" banner outside the building
Nick outside the phonebooth while the baddie makes his call.
> 4 "Blackwing" -- (needs no defense) -- complex distribution of guilt
Nick in the morgue thinking he might have done it ...
> 5 "Blind Faith" -- wonderful guest actress
The dogs, of course. Otherwise UGH.
> 6 "MBIAV" -- Nat standing up for herself with Nick
She did? I thought she caved in horribly. Best thing about this
episode? Let me think on it ... okay, I've thought on it and am still
stumped. Sorry.
> 7 "HoD" -- Urs's origin
I've said this before: TEETH! Since I have a video clip of that scene,
I never have to put up with this one again either.
> 8 "Trophy Girl" -- flashback! "Intoxicating, wasn't she?"
This episode was the first truly good one of the season. Liked almost
all of it, and actually cared about Tracy for the first time.
> 9 "LNMTA" -- Nick likes the whole package just the way it is <g>
Nothing about this episode is worth watching again at all.
> 10 "Night in Question" -- (needs no defense!) -- dream sequence
The parade warehouse.
> 11 "Sons of Belial" -- (needs no defense!) -- scene in the Raven
Needs no defense.
> 12 "Strings" -- flashback: "And you are under...?"
The opening murder scene with the cuts of the manikins.
> 13 "Fever" -- (needs no defense!) -- Nightcrawler's monologue, natch
Needs no defense. "Stay out of the sun, stay away from sharp sticks ..."
Cynthia
Cynthia Hoffman, Proud Raven
choff@v.......
Surely you are old enough by now to understand the difference between
"not guilty" and "innocent." Janette, Fate Worse than Death
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 19:21:18 -0500
From: Dotti Rhodes <dottir@w.......>
Subject: Re: Nick's children
At 07:41 PM 4/7/96 -0400, you wrote:
>
>
>Well, since most of us going up there at the end of the month to see
>Taming of the Shrew are women, we (along with the Toronto PD) better hope
>not...
>
Isn't that the truth!! The sheer numbers alone should make them nervous!!!
Dotti R
Knightie 4-Ever
dottir@w.......
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 19:31:45 -0500
From: Dotti Rhodes <dottir@w.......>
Subject: Re: Liking Third Season
Amy wrote:
>3 "Outside the Lines" --(tough) --the "Phantom" banner outside the building
ROTFL - that's the best part of the episode?? What a scream!!!
Dotti R
Knightie 4-Ever
dottir@w.......
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 19:37:27 -0500
From: Dotti Rhodes <dottir@w.......>
Subject: Re: Let me clear this up...
At 08:06 PM 4/7/96 -0400, you wrote:
>
>
>Basically what I meant to say was that if you don't like Kindred based upon
>it's own merits That's fine with me. But to consistently compare it with
>another show, FK or not, it completely unfair.
In any other place I'd say you were right, but since this is the FK list,
the only reason to say anything about the Kindred "HERE" is to compare it to
FK. I agree with you, you can like both shows or any other vampire show or
movie without comparing it to FK, it just doesn't belong here on this list.
That is all any of us are saying. Love the Kindred, that's fine, but don't
talk about it on the FK list UNLESS you are comparing it to something FK. I
love Interview and Anne Rice, I love a lot of vampire related things but I
don't write about them here unless it has something to do with FK.
So, let's get beyond this now and have fun - Jamie our listleader has spoken
about this anyway so there's nothing more that needs to be said beyond what
she said. Now - let's party!!
Dotti R
Knightie 4-Ever
dottir@w.......
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 00:42:29 GMT
From: Tammy Williams <sackett@u.......>
Subject: Re: Blood Donation
On Apr 05, 1996 13:03:53, 'cyndi knecht <cknecht@s.......>'
wrote:
>P.S. - No one answered me about the story where the vampires and mortals were
>writing letters to TPTB in the Raven - guess nobody else remembers it?....
>I was hoping to get Cousin Tippi (wave!) to see it....
Did you ever get a response to this? I had saved the message because I
remembered the story - then forgot to look it up. Was cleaning out some stuff
and found your note again and did look it up: "The Call" (2 parts) by Patrick
Kortner Aiex, the Lone Nanette email - paiex@i........ Hope this helps -
I think Tippi will like it.
I have it on disk and don't know how to upload so maybe it's in the
archives or Patrick can send it.
Tammy Williams - MFW / Cousin /
assistant FW for Joe, Connor, and Kalas
sackett@u.......
My life is the product of a diseased mind and I love it.
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 20:50:06 -0400
From: Charles & Roberta <catwing@i.......>
Subject: Re: Weirdstuff/other junk
>Does anyone have any theories on this? Like, does anyone know if this is
>something that Nielsen people actually do?
I know that it has been sometime since this was posted. However, I was
behind in my mail and thought someone else would answer. There is a Forever
Knight watching family I know who are actually a "Neilson Family". When
asked about this, they told me that Neilson always identifies themselves up
front when they call. My feeling on this is someone was playing a joke on
you. I may be wrong, but kids often like to do stuff like this. Remember
Prince Phillip in the can anyone?
Since I've decieded to actually post, a few other things. To the perks, my
only problem with Tracy is the writers leaving that chip on her shoulder.
In BB I could understand. She felt she had to prove herself. By NiQ, she
has a partner who accepts her, and a boss who compliments her. Why then
does she feel she still has to go running off to catch the bad guy all by
herself without letting anyone know. Also, I feel she should find out about
Nick. IMO it's rather silly for her to know about vamps without knowing
about Nick.
One last thing. I do not think Kindred had anything to do with FK being
cancelled. Look at KF's history. After the pilot, it was some time before
the series aired. Then it was cancelled, and had to be brought back after a
year or so passed. Then after second season they thought about cancelling
again with a long break before new eps. were filmed. What Kindred does have
that FK didn't is a known and sucessful producer who has major backing.
This enables him to get prime time and an advertising budget. I rather
thought it has promise. I like very few show when they first start, but as
the actors grow into there roles often the show improves.
Roberta
Thanks to Cheokee for the information. I had learned that Indian Giver was
the phrase attached to the Indian Agents who were supposed to give funds or
materials to the Indians, but kept or sold them, keeping the profit themselves.
Charles
Roberta and/or Charles catwing@i.......
No he's not, he's my brother.
If your there before it's over your on time.
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 20:28:08 -0400
From: "Susan M. Garrett" <susang@v.......>
Subject: New affiliation
What about the 'Th-thumps' who would like to be hypnotized by Nick?
Of which, of course I will NEVER be a member.*
*See War3
Regards
susang@v....... -- http://www.vitinc.com/~susang
Faithful Ravenette, because somebody STILL has to.
Visit THE essential webpage for Forever Knight info at:
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
"Friends help you move. Real friends help you move bodies."
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 19:54:38 CST
From: "OREL, SARA" <FA55@n.......>
Subject: St. Louis folks?
I think this next week's episode is Fever. I showed two episodes of FK
to my friend who is visiting from England, who has been hearing about
the show for a couple of years (not just from me). I showed him AMPH
and then last night we just happened to catch Strings. he doesn'twatch
tv at all, so the positive comments he made (I can see why you really
enjoy this show) just about floored me. He put down his book to watch
strings, too.
Anyway, does anyone on list know when the show airs in St. Louis?
there is an egyptological conference there next weekend, and I will
be there along with folks who might be interested in seeing the episode
if the timing is right. Please let me know if anyone does have the
information. Thanks.
Mercenarily yours,
Sara Orel
FA55%nemomus@a.......
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 18:04:37 -0700
From: AKR <r@w.......>
Subject: Re: Liking Third Season
Cynthia pointed out, re: finding things to like in third-season eps --
> > 6 "MBIAV" -- Nat standing up for herself with Nick
> She did? I thought she caved in horribly.
Well.... yes. She did. And she didn't even get kissed for it.
But BEFORE she caved in horribly, she temporarily stood up for herself.
:) This is MBIAV, for goodness's sake. One does what one can. :)
******* Amy, Lady of the Knight (AKR) r@w....... *******
"Why are you looking among the dead for one who is alive?" --Luke 24:5
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