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FORKNI-L Digest - 29 Aug 2004 to 30 Aug 2004 (#2004-239)

Mon, 30 Aug 2004

There are 18 messages totalling 505 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Crossing over
  2. FK Alert
  3. Looking for stories for Donnie's coffee corner (2)
  4. Nat and Richard's parents
  5. Graves and FK. (2)
  6. Richard and Natalie's Parents...
  7. OT - Chocolate for a Cause
  8. Least Favorite Episode
  9. Today's Birthday:  August 30
 10. FK Season 2 on DVD, and viewing order for season 2 (3)
 11. Fanzine:  Season of Change by Deborah A. Hymon
 12. murry bites . . . (3)

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Date:    Sun, 29 Aug 2004 17:26:00 -0400
From:    Cheryl P <fknight420@c.......>
Subject: Re: Crossing over

Sorry to reply on the list, you didn't leave your e-mail address.  True Dark
Shadows was different, but like I have always said every story is based on
what the writer cooses for their myth.  But, innmy opinion only, vampires
did exist and you did need to feed their to change.  Most of them cut open
their chest and the others used the wrists.  Sorry.

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Date:    Sun, 29 Aug 2004 18:27:43 -0400
From:    Cheryl P <fknight420@c.......>
Subject: FK Alert

FK ALERT   Sci-fi 7 pm 'Post Impact' Nigel Bennett.  Enjoy, I will.

He was brought across in1228
I was brought across in 1992
I will always be his Forever Knight
www.ForeverKnight.5u.com.

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Date:    Sun, 29 Aug 2004 22:48:07 GMT
From:    KC Smith <tigrlady2u@j.......>
Subject: Re: Looking for stories for Donnie's coffee corner

 Does anyone know where 'A Matter of Need' is archived?  For that matter, does
anyone remember who wrote it? (My brain is jello lately) I think this story
should <definitely> be in Donnie's coffee corner!

KC Smith
tigrlady2u@j.......
Nick/Natpacker with dark tendencies.
"I've never met a chocolate I didn't like."
http://www.geocities.com/knightlady2u/


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Date:    Sun, 29 Aug 2004 19:34:29 -0400
From:    Debbie Clarke <dittany121@h.......>
Subject: Re: Nat and Richard's parents

The fact that Richard said "Natalie sounds like Mom"  always seemed to me to
intimate that Mom is very much alive  ( his use of  the present tense.)
You sound just like mom  He didn't say you sounded just like mom then.

However in spite of the  clothing being the same  I  suspect more time went
by than we knew.

Funerals can be arranged fairly quickly.  Most people have them within three
days of the death.  But there are  some religions  which want the funeral
to take place within 24 hours of the death.

And As  in all  things  it's  your  preference what you do.   You can do
the  whole  thing, visiting times,  the  complete funeral service  with
casket  present.       Or  you  can skip funeral if you don't want to have
one and replace it with  a  simple memorial service   with no coffin
present.

It  all  depends on what the immediate family wants to do. An open casket is
most decidedly   not compulsory. And  although I know some people want it
this way,  I  find it hard to believe  any of them  would   ever have  the
nerve  to  demand a  family open  up the  casket just  for their benefit.

Debbie Clarke


>From: Lisa McDavid <mclisa@m.......>

>
>Richard does tell Nat, in the brief scene which introduces him in the
>beginning, that she sounds just like Mom. He's referring to the way she's
>chiding him.  However, that doesn't mean Mom isn't dead. ... if they got
>away with a closed casket throughout.  Usually the casket would be open at
>least a few hours before the funeral for anyone who wants to look.


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Date:    Sun, 29 Aug 2004 19:46:20 EDT
From:    Lori Isabella <LDukie913@a.......>
Subject: Re: Graves and FK.

When  Nick and Nat are telling Richard's wife about what Nick did and
> the  wife asks "What about the funeral and the casket, etc" Nick says
> they  buried a homeless man in his place...
> Now they seemed to do all that  VERY fast.



It seems to me that in the FK world funerals and burials  happen awfully
fast.  For some reason people who died last week also  have fully carved
headstones and fully grown grass on their graves. I know you  could argue
that it was sod but sod still has seams in the beginning. When  my Dad
died it took 2 months to get his headstone and at least that  long for the
grass to grow.  I guess you just have to chalk it up to  TV conventions.
It is much more dramatic to show somebody laying flowers at a  marked
grave than showing them laying them on an unmarked patch of  fresh
sod.

Lori

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Date:    Sun, 29 Aug 2004 19:49:33 EDT
From:    Lori Isabella <LDukie913@a.......>
Subject: Re: Richard and Natalie's Parents...

It's  that fact that has led me to believe that Nat and Richard's parents are
dead;  there is no mention of them at all in the ep, and that lack is rather
compelling for me (even if it was likely  unintentional).



I guess I always assumed that Richard and Natalie were raised  by their
grandmother for whatever reason. Isn't there a mention in the third season
of Natalie's grandma abusing her or am I mixing up actual eps with fan fic
again?
Lori

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Date:    Sun, 29 Aug 2004 20:11:33 -0400
From:    Brenda Bell <webwarren@e.......>
Subject: Re: Graves and FK.

At 07:46 PM 8/29/2004, Lori Isabella wrote:

>...I guess you just have to chalk it up to  TV conventions.
>It is much more dramatic to show somebody laying flowers at a  marked
>grave than showing them laying them on an unmarked patch of  fresh
>sod.

OTOH, when my mother's mother was buried, the gravesite (new grave in a new
double-plot) *was* marked with a small temporary marker that was rather
difficult to read unless you were pretty close-up. A camera zoom could take
care of that sort of detail. When her husband (my grandfather) passed, the
double headstone was up, but only the one side (Grandma's) engraved. When
my Dad's mother passed, we were asked to leave the gravesite before it was
completely covered (a difference between traditions); I never had the
opportunity to notice whether that small marker was present or not -- OTOH,
it's a family plot, and from the time of its purchase, everyone in the
family who was eventually supposed to be buried there, and several of their
children, knew where everyone else was supposed to be buried "when the time
comes".

You could do the angle:  freshly turned (or sodded) ground, small marker,
nothing *quite* settled, and the funeral flowers/grave blanket still
present in the center of the unsodded earth... use music and camera angle
to emphasize the freshness of the burial, the newness of the death, and the
rawness of the emotional wound.

But that's a different artistic standpoint, and I'm not the one who
directed the episodes with graveyard visits.



Brenda F. Bell   webwarren@e.......   /nick TMana     IM: n2kye
Arctophile, computer addict, TREKker, stealth photographer...
         UA, PoCBS, FKPagan; Neon-Green GlowWorm
HugMistress of the Ger Bear Project https://members.tripod.com/~TMana/
Gerthering 3 Photos:  https://members.tripod.com/~TMana/gertherng/
Visit the Fiendish Glow at http://home.earthlink.net/~webwarren/glow/

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Date:    Sun, 29 Aug 2004 20:19:13 -0400
From:    Brenda Bell <webwarren@e.......>
Subject: Re: OT - Chocolate for a Cause

At 02:13 PM 8/29/2004, Tamara wrote:

>Special bags of pink and white M&Ms will be on sale from September through
>November 2004.
>Proceeds of the sale will go to the Susan G. Komen Breast Cancer
>Foundation, a non-profit organization.

Now I'm going to *have* to check the ingredients of M&M's <*mumble, mumble,
grumble*>... I'd buy a bag for my doctor, but since I won't buy anything
with hydrogenated or partially hydrogenated oils, or high-fructose corn
syrup for myself -- I won't do it for anyone else, either.

The last one I did and passed on was the 3M Post-It note for the world's
largest pink-ribbon:

<http://www.3m.com/us/office/postit/research/largest_pink_ribbon.jhtml>

I don't know if they got their 75,000 electronic signatures yet. I am going
to check for the pink-ribbon Post-It<TM> note pads
<http://www.3m.com/us/office/postit/research/donation.jhtml>... though I
suspect OfficeMax and BJ's will NOT be selling the specialty packaging :(

But I am reminded that I DO need to register for SELF magazine's Workout In
The Park which will be in Central Park, NY on October 2nd.



Brenda F. Bell   webwarren@e.......   /nick TMana     IM: n2kye
Arctophile, computer addict, TREKker, stealth photographer...
         UA, PoCBS, FKPagan; Neon-Green GlowWorm
HugMistress of the Ger Bear Project https://members.tripod.com/~TMana/
Gerthering 3 Photos:  https://members.tripod.com/~TMana/gertherng/
Visit the Fiendish Glow at http://home.earthlink.net/~webwarren/glow/

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Date:    Sun, 29 Aug 2004 22:38:56 -0500
From:    Nancy Kaminski <nancykam@c.......>
Subject: Re: Least Favorite Episode

> Lisa McDavid wrote:

> This is, btw, the infamous, "you still owe me for the Battle
> of Hastings" line, which means the writer was too lazy to
> look up a simple date.  Hastings was in 1066.  Nick was
> brought across in 1228.  If that was the only problem, I

McLisa makes a lot of valid points about this ep (Forward Into the
Past). I still like it, just because it shows how Nick reacts to the
reality of his mortal friends aging. I thought it had some very sweet
moments (I'm such a softie for that sort of stuff <g>).

I also credit this ep with enabling me to completely awe my coworkers
in one of our periodic lunchtime Trivial Pursuit tournaments. Yes, the
question involved the Battle of Hastings, and I was able to say
casually, "Well, happened in 1066..." The looks I got from all those
software engineers were priceless!

Nancy Kaminski

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Date:    Sun, 29 Aug 2004 23:10:01 -0500
From:    Nancy Kaminski <nancykam@c.......>
Subject: Re: Looking for stories for Donnie's coffee corner

> I posted a request for stories that have Don Schanke as the
> main protagonist or as a major part of it. I've gotten one or two, but I
> really need more for my Donnie site.
> You don't have to send the stories, a link will do.

I have some Schanke-centric stories:

"Close Call: The Unspoken Epilogue"
"Remnants of a Life"
"Ruminations"
"Checking In, Checking Out"
"It Seemed Like a Good Idea At the Time"

all available on my fiction page,

http://www.nancykam.com/fanfic/nancy/nkfic.html

Nancy Kaminski

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Date:    Mon, 30 Aug 2004 06:20:56 -0500
From:    eowyn3@j.......
Subject: Today's Birthday:  August 30

Hi Y'all!

Today is the birthday of:  Kezia Hepden         keziahepden@h.......

You can send birthday greetings to Kezia at the above e-mail address.
Please NOT to the list!

People who share birthdays on this date include:
Cameron Diaz, Movie Actress
Peggy Lipton, TV/Movie Actress
Frederique Van Der Wal, Model, Businessperson
Jacques-Louis David, Painter
Rowland H. Macy, Merchant

Significant events on this date:
1146, A conference of European leaders outlawed the crossbow.
1850, Honolulu, Hawaii became a city.
1881, Clement Ader patented the first stereophonic sound system in
Germany.
1901, Hubert Cecil Booth patents the vacuum cleaner.

I hope you have a very Happy Birthday, Kezia!

If you would like to be added to the birthday announcements, please send
your name, birthdate (no year needed) and e-mail address to me,
privately, eowyn3@j....... and I'll be glad to add you.

Terri
eowyn3@j......., eowyn@w.......
GWDFC, G-IV & V Attendee, Knighties Listowner, TKD, FK X-Stitcher,
Proud Survivor of Fk-fic  Wars 8-11, Keeper of the FK Birthday List

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Date:    Mon, 30 Aug 2004 08:32:51 -0600
From:    Angela Gottfred <agottfre@t.......>
Subject: FK Season 2 on DVD, and viewing order for season 2

I'm still catching up with the mail from the last couple months. Is anyone doing
something to let TPTB know "fangs a lot" for releasing season 2? (Yes, I know
it's just an announcement.) I'd love to get on board.

Also, is it possible to somehow remind TPTB that the episode order for season 2
should have Close Call immediately after The Code? The Canadian stations (Space
and Showcase) both aired the eps strictly in number order, so I fear that the
DVDs might follow suit.

It is clear that The Code (where Schanke's car is trashed by the nun) is right
before The Code. In my opinion, aside from the end of season 3, this is the only
case where two eps are so closely tied together. In Close Call, Schanke's car is
in for repairs, so he borrows Nick's Caddy, and there is a also flashback to The
Code in Close Call. But the actual numbering of eps has Close Call as 222 and
The Code as 224. (http://www.loftworks.com/FK/Episodes/episode_guide.html)

It's not clear precisely where Be My Valentine is meant to go. I'd like to see
it come after Close Call, so that the viewing order is Queen of Harps, The Code,
Close Call, Be My Valentine. With Close Call followed by Be My Valentine, you
have Nick dealing very intensely with the two humans closest to him (Schanke &
Nat) one right after the other.

Your humble & obedient servant,
Angela Gottfred

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Date:    Mon, 30 Aug 2004 11:22:38 -0400
From:    Libratsie@a.......
Subject: Re: FK Season 2 on DVD, and viewing order for season 2

I have a feeling that the order the episodes are on the DVD is already set and
I, personally, don't think we should bother TPTB with something like this.
After all, this is a DVD so it will be very easy to watch the episodes in any
order you wish.

--Libs

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Date:    Mon, 30 Aug 2004 12:18:36 -0400
From:    Deborah Hymon <debh@e.......>
Subject: Re: FK Season 2 on DVD, and viewing order for season 2

I totally agree with you, Libs. We're lucky to be getting the 2nd Season,
and in no way should complain about minor things. As you said, they can be
watched in whatever order one wishes. There are other things, such as better
quality and extras, plus bloopers that in my opinion are more important. But
if we can't get quality improvements and extras, I'll gladly take all 3
seasons, any way we can get them!

Deborah
DeborahAHymon.com

on 8/30/04 11:22 AM, Libratsie@a....... at Libratsie@a....... wrote:
I have a feeling that the order the episodes are on the DVD is already set.
I, personally, don't think we should bother TPTB with this. After all, this
is a DVD so it will be very easy to watch the episodes in any order

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Date:    Mon, 30 Aug 2004 12:34:13 -0400
From:    Deborah Hymon <debh@e.......>
Subject: Fanzine:  Season of Change by Deborah A. Hymon

Hi, Everyone.

Just a quick note to let you know the books arrived this morning!

I returned from vacation to a stack of money orders, and spent the weekend
processing the orders. Your books should be mailed out sometime this week.
Please be patient, as I have over 100 books to sign, and some to
personalize.

I haven't received payment from many, so please get the payment in the mail
immediately. I took pre-orders on blind-trust, and have to pay for the books
regardless if you send payment or not.

Thank you for the support on this project. I would love to hear from you
when you receive your book.

Please email any question or comment to me off group at:

debh@e.......

Thanks,
Deborah A. Hymon

DeborahAHymon.com

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Date:    Mon, 30 Aug 2004 10:37:19 -0700
From:    chris thatcher <mb_the_spy@y.......>
Subject: Re: murry bites . . .

> Just for future reference the dog's name in "Blind
> Faith" was Perry (not Murray).

How 'bout we refer to the contested character as
"Furray"?

going back into hiding,
chris ;?

=====
"I don't bite.... Well, that's wrong; I do bite."
       ~K'Ehleyr



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Date:    Mon, 30 Aug 2004 12:53:01 -0500
From:    Christy Stillman <cstillma@u.......>
Subject: Re: murry bites . . .

<<How 'bout we refer to the contested character as "Furray"?>>

I think Perry would find anyone calling him that and bite the heck out of
them.   ;-)

Christy
cstillma@u.......
NA, Now & Always

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Date:    Mon, 30 Aug 2004 18:02:28 +0000
From:    Lyn Palmer <wizkid2u@c.......>
Subject: Re: murry bites . . .

> How 'bout we refer to the contested character as
> "Furray"?

Oh, y'just HAD to do it, didn't you?
;)

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