FORKNI-L
FORKNI-L Digest - 30 Oct 2003 to 31 Oct 2003 (#2003-17)
Fri, 31 Oct 2003
There are 21 messages totalling 768 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Lisa Ryder Interview (5)
2. pondering (old topic) (2)
3. I just found out...
4. FK ALUMNI- VCR Alert for November
5. Lisa Ryder interview (3)
6. Dailies (was: Re: Lisa Ryder interview)
7. heaven and hell and every gradation of degradation in between
8. Halloween
9. Tjoday's Birthday: October 31
10. FK moment (2)
11. DVDs - Denied! (2)
12. Admin: RavenAwards Begins!
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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:16:48 -0800
From: Amanda Berendt <debrabant_foundation@y.......>
Subject: Re: Lisa Ryder Interview
--- Tracy Gooding <t.gooding@u.......> wrote:
> ...in the show's fourth season opener, 'Answers to Questions Never
> Asked'. The episode reunited Ryder with an old acquaintance.
When is this going to be on... or was it already on? Sorry I don't
usually watch the show.
-Amanda
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"Give me your soul and your heart will take flight
Forevermore in the night, Forever MINE in the night"
http://operacellar.tripod.com/phantomslair.html
http://debrabantfoundation.tripod.com/home.html
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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:30:15 -0500
From: Arletta Asbury <g4akl@c.......>
Subject: Re: Lisa Ryder Interview
At 05:09 PM 10/30/2003 +0000, Tracy Gooding wrote:
>"Actually, we were both on the series but never had scenes with one
>another. <snip> and thought, 'Lucien LaCroix and Tracy Vetter are finally
>getting together'. I'm sure it will please those 'Forever Knight' fans
>who may have always wondered if my character and Nigel's ever did meet up.
I find this statement puzzling. Wasn't Tracy in the room during the
interrogation scene in AtA (ie. the scene where Lacroix is
being questioned at the police station after the headless corpse is
found in his beer fridge)? I don't remember since it's been a while
since I rewatched that ep. Although I'm positive that afterwards
while she's talking to Vachon in the car in the parking lot, she
makes reference to getting the feeling of "evil" coming from LC
and she asks Vachon if LC is a vamp. So her character obviously
saw LC at some point at the police station.
Arletta
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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:44:23 -0500
From: Debbie Clarke <dittany121@h.......>
Subject: Re: pondering (old topic)
>From: Sierra Mayberry <BlueFaeryMagick@a.......>
In BMV, Nick and Natalie enter her apartment
>and leave the door open. My first thought was, Sidney is going to get out!
Mine too. For much the same reason. The same thought crossed my mind
in Only the Lonely when Nick went out on what I presume was the balcony
leaving the door open behind him. I had visions of Sydney plunging to his
death after a squirrel or bird.
Debbie Clarke
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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:15:04 -0800
From: Laura Davies <brightfeather1.geo@y.......>
Subject: Re: Lisa Ryder Interview
> I find this statement puzzling. Wasn't Tracy in the
> room during the interrogation scene in AtA (ie.
> the scene where Lacroix is being questioned at the
> police station she makes reference to getting the
> feeling of "evil" coming from LC and she asks Vachon
> if LC is a vamp.
Now it's been a while for me, too, but if Tracy and
LaCroix were never in the same frame, it's entirely
possible that she never really worked with Nigel. <g>
Most TV dramas are filmed with one camera, and there
are an incredible amount of takes to get all the
angles, etc. If we never saw the characters
together, it's entirely possible that they were filmed
separetly. <bg> Dailies, while boring, are a really
interesting way to watch how a show is filmed.
Laura (who's never seen FK dailies, but owns some
copies of Lois and Clark dailies)
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Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 10:42:09 +0800
From: ell hase <relliza@h.......>
Subject: Re: Lisa Ryder Interview
Tracy wrote about Lisa Ryder interview in Cult Times.
<snip> I'm sure it will please those 'Forever Knight' fans who may have
always wondered if my character and Nigel's ever did meet up. In fact, I
ad-libbed a line that loosely makes reference to that at the end of the
scene. I hope they keep it in. It was a treat for me to see Nigel again and
finally work with him."
>
I wonder what that line is?
All pscyhed up now to watch Andromeda.
Ell
I'm in charge of finding myself,
and I make sure it never happens - Adam Pierson
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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:36:10 -0800
From: Amanda Berendt <debrabant_foundation@y.......>
Subject: I just found out...
that my brother likes FK!!
Yeah, he is the one who introduced me to the show years ago... (I saw
part of Father's Day on CBS when he told me about a cool show he was
watching at college, but it was on too late and I didn't really watch
it)
I started watching it during the 3rd season and he 'poo-pooed' it, so
I thought he had 'grown' out of it or something.
He knew I liked it--- he bought me Nigel's first book.
But, he recently put up this forum thing on his website and I was
perusing it and he mentioned the FK DVD and how if you're a fan of
Buffy or Angel (many of his friends are) you should check FK out.
I am guessing he saw my dvds sitting on the coffee table when he came
over to do laundry last week.
Kewl.
I just offered him my second set (he is out of work right now and
doesn't have extra money)...
There is an ulterior motive to my generosity... he will take it and
show his friends and .... presto! New fans!
-Amanda
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"Give me your soul and your heart will take flight
Forevermore in the night, Forever MINE in the night"
http://operacellar.tripod.com/phantomslair.html
http://debrabantfoundation.tripod.com/home.html
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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 20:55:53 -0800
From: Cheryl Hoffman <dayabaygal@y.......>
Subject: FK ALUMNI- VCR Alert for November
Just a quick note this time, I've only checked the Satellite Direct Guide,
I'll try to get to the other sources this weekend.
There is a new Nigel movie....and there should be a couple more
in the next months.... at least we can always hope.
As always, please check your local listings for exact dates & times,
I have been known to make typos (and so have the sources I've pulled
from)
NIGEL BENNETT (LaCroix)
Code Name:Phoenix SciFi 23
Ghost Cat AnimalP 1,2
Martha Inc. Lifetime 16
Murder at 1600 TNT 23
***Rush of Fear Lifetime 15,23*** NEW
Too Young to be a Dad Lifetime 7
Vanished Without a Trace Lifetime 1
Where's the Money, Noreen LifetimeM 16,17
GERAINT WYN DAVIES (Nick Knight)
American Psycho2 HBO2 24,30
TMC 3,22
Cube 2: Hypercube SciFi 1
CATHERINE DISHER (Natalie Lambert)
Jerry and Tom TMC 3 ?????????????????
Rolie Polie Olie:
Great Defender of Fun(voice) Disney 28
The Vindicator FMC 6,17,28
JOHN KAPELOS (Schanke)
Auto Focus Max 15,16,17,18,19,25,30
MMax 16,21
The Breakfast Club WE 26,28,29
Guilty as Sin Encore 1,20
Legally Blonde TMC 1,10,19,28,30
Roxanne HBO 7,13,16,19,28
HBO-S 3,11,22,26,30
Starz 2,6,10,15,29
Sixteen Candles WE 5,6,15
Tootsie TCM 8
GARY FARMER (Capt Stonetree)
The Score TMC 9,15,16,24,29
NATSUKO OHAMA (Capt Cohen)
Flatliners Mystery 8,9,13,18,23,24,26
Show2 3,9,10,12,22,28
Hiroshima: Out of the Ashes True 5,6,9,13,21,29
Speed HBO-2 9,11,17,22
BLU MANKUMA (Capt Reese)
Final Descent Action 9,20,26,27
Intensity Lifetime 23
That Old Feeling Love 4,9,13,24,25,28,29
BEN BASS (Javier Vachon)
A Killer Among Friends LifetimeM 11,12
Murder in a Small Town A&E 17
LISA RYDER (Tracy)
Jason X Encore 1
Starz 2,6,17,22,26
Andromeda check local listings
KRISTIN LEHMAN (Urs)
Alaska Max 6
Judging Amy CBS Tuesdays
BRENDA BAZINET (Johanna Shea - Queen of Harps)
Echoes in the Darkness Lifetime 30
To Catch a Killer USA 10
KRISTA BRIDGES (Ellen - Hearts of Darkness)
Bloodknot LifetimeM 10,11
Kids in the Hall:Brain Candy USA 29
CYNTHIA BELLIVEAU (Alexandra - Faithful Followers)
Family of Cops III Court 1
Hearst & Davies Affair True 6,15,30
HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN (Andre - Fallen Idol)
Star Wars II: Attack of the Clones HBO 2,5,8,11,14,24,29
The Virgin Suicides LifetimeM 30
CHRISTINA COX (Joan of Arc - For I Have Sinned)
Better Than Chocolate Show2 12,30
Brother's Promise: Dan Jansen LifetimeM 6,7
No One Could Protect Her TNT 1
NICOLE DeBOER (Jeannie - Dark Knight)
Cube IFC 28,29
Family of Cops III Court 1
JFK:Reckless Youth WE 8
Kids in the Hall:Brain Candy USA 29
MARIA DEL MAR (Magda - For I Have Sinned)
The Child Saver LifetimeM 11,12
Diary of a Sex Addict HBO2 22
Price of Glory ESPNC 15,24
DAMON D'OLIVEIRA (Inca - Black Buddha)
Exotica Max 27
COLM FEORE (Walken - Blood Money)
City of Angels TBS 13
Spider & the Fly Max 4
Striking Poses Court 29
Titus IFC 22,23
VON FLORES (Tran - Can't Run Can't Hide)
The Assignment HBO2 10,16,17,26
Car 54, Where are You? Starz 7,17,30
Johnny Mnemonic TBS 2
DAVID HEMBLEN (Dr. Vanderwal - Sons of Belial)
Exotica Max 27
Fly Away Home HBO-F 4,8,14,17,18,23,27
HBO-2 1,20
TORI HIGGINSON (Erica - Last Act)
Family of Cops III Court 1
GEORDIE JOHNSON (Jerry - My Boyfriend is a Vampire)
The English Patient Encore 3,10,19
KARI MATCHETT (Alyssa de Brabant - Dead of Knight)
Cube 2: Hypercube SciFi 1
MICHAEL McMANUS (Father Rochefort - For I Have Sinned,
also Kai in LEXX)
Hard to Forget WE 29
ANDREW MILLER (Andrew - Stranger than Fiction)
Cube IFC 28,29
EARL PASTKO (Miklos, the bartender at the Raven)
Battlefield Earth SciFi 28
CLAIRE RANKIN (Fleur - Be My Valentine)
Brother's Promise: Dan Jansen LifetimeM 6,7
John Q StarzT 28,29,30
You Belong to Me Forever LifetimeM 23
JULIAN RICHINGS (Dr. Paul Dana - A More Permanent Hell)
Cube IFC 28,29
SANDI ROSS (Grace Balthazar, Nat's assistant)
Guilty as Sin Encore 1,20
Tied Up HBO 22
CEDRIC SMITH (Liam O'Neal - Bad Blood)
JFK:Reckless Youth WE 8
RICK SPRINGFIELD (Nick Knight - original pilot)
Dying to Dance LifetimeM 29
LOUISE VALLANCE (Charlie Hawkes - My Boyfriend is a Vampire)
87th Precinct: Heatwave Court 23
MAURICE DEAN WINT (Frank - Francesca)
Cube IFC 28,29
Cheryl Hoffman, NA (& I ain't changin' it), Cousin, Val,
NBN, G4, Bridging, Indecency,
"My, my.. we are in a mood tonight.." -LaCroix
dayabaygal@y....... Richland, WA
AIM/Yahoo: DayaBayGal ICQ: 30464256
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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 20:57:34 -0800
From: FKMel <sgt_buck_frobisher@y.......>
Subject: Re: Lisa Ryder interview
<<Dailies>>
what exactly are dailies anyway? I've heard the word,
but never figured out for sure what they were....or
even what the singular is LOL. Daily?
Mel
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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 23:02:21 -0600
From: CLone Star Software <cstar@a.......>
Subject: Re: Lisa Ryder interview
At 08:57 PM 10/30/2003 -0800, Mel wrote:
>what exactly are dailies anyway? I've heard the word,
>but never figured out for sure what they were>
They're all the scenes filmed in a day, from various angles, etc. which are
viewed by the director to decide which take to use. Since this is done
daily, they're called dailies.
Marci C
cstar@a.......
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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:35:36 -0800
From: Laura Davies <brightfeather1.geo@y.......>
Subject: Re: Lisa Ryder interview
Mel asked:
> what exactly are dailies anyway? I've heard the
> word,
> but never figured out for sure what they were....or
> even what the singular is LOL. Daily?
"Dailies" are the raw footage shot in one day. <bg>
In a sometimes 16-hour day of shooting, that adds up
to a lot of film! Actually, dailies can be pretty
boring, at least when the actors are getting their
lines right. <bg> The funny stuff is for blooper
reels! ;) There's one shot of the scene for each
camera angle, and at times, for each *character* in
the scene. It can take *hours* to shoot one scene, so
the dailies are usually quite extensive--I've got 16
or so hours of them from Lois and Clark, and I'll
probably be getting more next time I go to the annual
FoLC Fest.
Lots of the time, the dailies include footage that
didn't make it off the cutting room floor, so they can
be interesting to watch as well as a good cure for
insomnia. ;) By raw footage, I mean that it's
pre-music, so you get the actors saying their lines.
I've actually seen a three-five minute scene take up
and hour and a half worth of dailies...
Laura
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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 23:54:43 -0600
From: Nancy Kaminski <nancykam@c.......>
Subject: Re: pondering (old topic)
> Portia said, <snip> People just walk through the door or step
> out of the car and NEVER close the door! I'm always thinking, "Hey, were
> you raised in a barn?? You're wasting air-conditioning, and what
> about bugs??"
Yet another thing people don't do on TV--pay the cabbie! Or if they
do, they give the guy a bill and never wait for change! What's up with
that?
Nancy Kaminski
nancykam@c.......
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Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 00:05:27 -0600
From: Amy <amilynh@c.......>
Subject: Dailies (was: Re: Lisa Ryder interview)
>what exactly are dailies anyway? I've heard the word,
>but never figured out for sure what they were....or
>even what the singular is LOL. Daily?
Dailies are what I think are also called "rushes" sometimes.
They are the bits of a day's filming that folks can watch at the end of the
day to see how things are going, looking, etc. They usually include the
multiple takes, mistakes, etc., and are completely unedited.
I'm sure there is more detail to be had, but that has been my understanding
of the term.
Amy F.
***
My kids: members.aol.com/emmaweaver/photos
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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:42:32 -0800
From: chris thatcher <mb_the_spy@y.......>
Subject: heaven and hell and every gradation of degradation in between
a favorite line from a favorite book. make of it what
you will. first of all, i will--along with others on
the list--pray for all of you affected by the fires in
CA. I'll try to remember to, at least. Good thing
God knows what you mean to pray for even if you don't
know yourself. I have people I care about in affected
areas, not the least of which is my sister, Rose. on
a lighter note, the first thing i thought when I read
about the Lisa Ryder interviewwas "the CERK perks are
gonna love this!" <g>
chris ;?
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I'm not a fatalist, but even if I
were, what could I do about it?
~Emo Phillips
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Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 03:45:01 -0800
From: Cheryl Pillsbury <fknight1228@y.......>
Subject: Halloween
My fellow vampires and demons. This is our day to rise and have fun. Let's all
have a Bloody Mary, or whom ever, and drink a toast to our favorite friends in
our underworld. May they shine and live forever, as always, in our dreams but
mostly our nightmares. Good Evening.
Cheryl Pillsbury
FKnight1228@y.......
He was brought across in 1228
I was brought across in 1992
I will always be his Forever Knight
ForeverKnight.5u.com
VampiresLair@y.......
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Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 06:13:04 -0600
From: eowyn3@j.......
Subject: Tjoday's Birthday: October 31
Hi Y'all!
Today is the birthday of: Mindi Sargonith@a.......
You can send birthday greetings to MIndi at the above e-mail address.
Please NOT to the list!
People who share birthdays on this date include:
Michael "Mike" Collins, Astronaut
Dan Rather, Newscaster
Michael Landon, TV/Movie Actor
John Keats, Poet
Significant events on this date:
834, A.D., the first All Hallows Eve is observed by all churches;
1888, John Boyd Dunlop took out a patent for his pneumatic bicycle tyre.
1941, Mount Rushmore National Memorial was completed.
1956, Rear Adm. G.J. Dufek became the first person to land an airplane at
the South Pole.
I hope you have a very Happy Birthday, Mindi!
If you would like to be added to the birthday announcements, please send
your name, birthdate (no year needed) and e-mail address to me,
privately, eowyn3@j....... and I'll be glad to add you.
Terri
eowyn3@j......., eowyn@w.......
GWDFC, G-IV & V Attendee, Knighties Listowner, TKD, FK X-Stitcher,
Proud Survivor of Fk-fic Wars 8-11, Keeper of the FK Birthday List
She can be taught! But only in little bytes!
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Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 09:01:38 -0500
From: Tim Phillips <tim.phillips@a.......>
Subject: Re: Lisa Ryder Interview
> > ...in the <andromeda's> fourth season opener, 'Answers to Questions Never
> > Asked'. The episode reunited Ryder with an old acquaintance.
> When is this going to be on... or was it already on? Sorry I don't
> usually watch the show.
It depends. Andromeda is syndicated so it shows up on
individual stations as they want to air it (night and time of
broadcast are individually determined).
In my area, the premiere of the 4th season has already aired.
I have it on tape, but haven't watched it yet - too many DVDs, not
enough time.
Generally, it will appear on a repeat 4-6 episodes into the season.
That again will depend upon the individual station and how they
"recycle" things.
Tim
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Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 11:26:59 -0600
From: DLPH <DLPH@c.......>
Subject: FK moment
I was watching "Tru moment" (I taped it last night & just watching it now)
This girl who wanted to be a DR. was sent to be an intern in the morge
she was told "people would die for this job"
The whole time she was down there I kept expecting Nat to show up
& give her a tour or something, or at least Nick pop up looking for Nat
I also kept expecting someone to say "I see dead people"
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Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 11:08:07 -0800
From: Megan Hull <mistrydder@y.......>
Subject: Re: FK moment
That's 'Tru Calling', and I kept thinking the same thing! Or at least that
someone would pop up with glowing eyes.
-Megan
DLPH <DLPH@c.......> wrote:
I was watching "Tru moment" (I taped it last night & just watching it now)
The whole time she was down there I kept expecting Nat to show up
& give her a tour or something, or at least Nick pop up looking for Nat
"Eternal nights too short,
How quickly melt away,
With all the love we shared once,
Forever in a Day."
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Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:39:26 -0500
From: Phoenix <phoenix@s.......>
Subject: DVDs - Denied!
I'm glad to hear that people have got their FK DVDs. Wish I had mine.
Despite the fact that the US Post Office is not supposed to leave packages
near peoples' doors, my mail carrier did, and someone walked off with my
package.
No DVDs for me.
Since I'd got them at the mislisted price, there's no way I can get
another set at the regular price and due to a bank screw-up I can't afford
them at the regular price (plus the fact I shouldn't feel I should /have/
to buy a new set - it's not my fault the first set didn't get to me).
And of course, the Post Office won't replace them or reimburse me for
them, as Barnes & Noble didn't ship them insured.
I think this list founder's gonna go trick or treating. At least there,
you /expect/ the trick.
--
Jean Prior
aka Jayekitty
or Phoenix
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Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:45:52 -0800
From: Vikki Farra <bast1531@s.......>
Subject: Re: DVDs - Denied!
OH That's AWFUL!!!! I'm so sorry! Bummer... if I had an extra set I'd send it to
ya... That really bites. (no pun intended)
Bast
Phoenix <phoenix@s.......> wrote:
I'm glad to hear that people have got their FK DVDs. Wish I had mine.
Despite the fact that the US Post Office is not supposed to leave packages
near peoples' doors, my mail carrier did, and someone walked off with my
package.
No DVDs for me.
Since I'd got them at the mislisted price, there's no way I can get
another set at the regular price and due to a bank screw-up I can't afford
them at the regular price (plus the fact I shouldn't feel I should /have/
to buy a new set - it's not my fault the first set didn't get to me).
And of course, the Post Office won't replace them or reimburse me for
them, as Barnes & Noble didn't ship them insured.
I think this list founder's gonna go trick or treating. At least there,
you /expect/ the trick.
--
Jean Prior
aka Jayekitty
or Phoenix
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Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 10:41:25 +1300
From: Kylie Tucker <kiwisun@i.......>
Subject: Admin: RavenAwards Begins!
With McLisa's permission...
Hi All!
The 4th annual Raven Awards Competition has begun! Remember you have the
next 3 months to write and/or
post your stories to the Raven Awards List.
Raven Awards : http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~sharkyl/
If you have any questions, gripes, praise or general feedback about the
awards, the website or just about anything else, do please email me!
kiwisun@i.......
To all those who are reading and writing, feedback is critical to
writers...it's like giving nourishment to flora. Whether it be fully grown
or a budding sprout in the ground, it helps to encourage the best fruits and
flowers!
Good luck to all!
Kylie.
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