FORKNI-L

FORKNI-L Digest - 29 Aug 2003 to 30 Aug 2003 (#2003-247)

Sat, 30 Aug 2003

There are 14 messages totalling 392 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Close Call... whammy? (4)
  2. Lear (3)
  3. Birthday Info Needed
  4. Nick's date of birth (3)
  5. weather facts
  6. Today's Birthday:  August 30
  7. HypercubeII

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Date:    Fri, 29 Aug 2003 14:38:13 -0700
From:    Amanda Berendt <debrabant_foundation@y......>
Subject: Close Call... whammy?

This didn't go through last night, so here it is again....


Ok, one more observation before I go to bed....

I know there had been a debate about the end of Close Call, whether
LC put the whammy on Schanke or not...
well I paid close attention this time while watching it - rewinding
and watching the scene a couple of times...
When LC is telling Schanke that he is tired and stressed and that the
mind can play trick, and that he should go home and be with his
family.... right up until Schanke asks if Nick is adopted...
During that section, Lacroix's voice has an echo to it.  No
heartbeat, but the echo is only in that one section.  It really made
me think that yes... LC did put the suggestion in Schanke's mind that
it was all in his head.  Not really a full whammy, but a little push
in the right direction (or misdirection)

Maybe I should watch FK on very little sleep more often... I am
really noticing things...

-Amanda

=====
"Give me your soul and your heart will take flight
Forevermore in the night, Forever MINE in the night"
http://operacellar.tripod.com/phantomslair.html
http://debrabantfoundation.tripod.com/home.html

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Date:    Fri, 29 Aug 2003 17:46:10 EDT
From:    Alifoxx@a.......
Subject: Lear

<< Plummer is only going to be in it for 8 weeks, but the
show will last longer.  >>

According to the Vivian Beaumont Theater office at Lincoln Center, the play
closes on April 11....deosn't change casts or the lead...just closes. And yes,
the tix go on sale right after the new year.

Another aside...the Beaumont was modeled after the Stratford stage...a thrust
stage as was the Tyrone Guthrie theater and a couple others. Apparently this
version is the one that didn't work......oh well.

Janet L.

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Date:    Fri, 29 Aug 2003 19:36:06 -0400
From:    Debbie Clarke <dittany121@h.......>
Subject: Re: Close Call... whammy?

>From: Amanda Berendt <debrabant_foundation@y......>
>
>... LC did put the suggestion in Schanke's mind that
>it was all in his head.  Not really a full whammy, but a little push
>in the right direction (or misdirection)

What is even more fascinating is that  LaCroix   never lied once  to Schanke
during that whole interview.

  I remember thinking  at the end of the scene  that  it wouldn't have done
any good  for LaCroix to simply  tell Schanke  to forget    since Schanke
still had the copy of Nick's driver's licence  and  the  daguerreotype of
Janette.

  Since  Nick wasn't to be told  Schanke had got a traffic ticket.    he
would have  had no idea that   Schanke had  run a check on   his old new
York driver's licence.

Debbie Clarke

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Date:    Fri, 29 Aug 2003 21:42:50 -0500
From:    Nancy Kaminski <nancykam@c.......>
Subject: Re: Lear

> Alifoxx@a.......

> Another aside...the Beaumont was modeled after the Stratford
> stage...a thrust stage as was the Tyrone Guthrie theater and a
> couple others.
> Apparently this version is the one that didn't work......oh well.

In that case, they can move the play to the Guthrie here in
Minneapolis. That's a really great theatre, and I've always hoped that
Ger could work in a play here.

Plummer's been here. Why not Ger?

Nancy Kaminski
in Minneapolis

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Date:    Fri, 29 Aug 2003 21:51:29 -0500
From:    eowyn3@j.......
Subject: Birthday Info Needed

Hi Y'all!

I just sent out birthday confirmations for September and Jen Harding,
your addy (jensharding@h.......) came back as undeliverable.  Please
contact me at eowyn3@j....... with the correct e-mail address if you want
your birthday to be announced.  Thanks!

Terri
eowyn3@j......., eowyn@w.......
GWDFC, G-IV & V Attendee, Knighties Listowner, TKD, FK X-Stitcher,
Proud Survivor of Fk-fic  Wars 8-11, Keeper of the FK Birthday List
She can be taught!  But only in little bytes!

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Date:    Sat, 30 Aug 2003 00:08:11 EDT
From:    Sierra Mayberry <BlueFaeryMagick@a.......>
Subject: Nick's date of birth

i was just watching 'Partners of the Month,' and i realized that Nick wasn't
born as early as some people (including myself) have in their stories.
Natalie says to Nick on the telephone, "You're almost 800 years old...."  So,
if
she's right, he couldn't have been born before 1196 because that episode aired
in
1995.  Anyway, just thought i'd share this for the people who have been
thinking a couple years earlier. Are there any comments in other eps that
conflict with what Nat said?


~Sierra

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Date:    Fri, 29 Aug 2003 23:41:12 -0500
From:    Nancy Kaminski <nancykam@c.......>
Subject: Re: Nick's date of birth

> Sierra Mayberry wrote:

> Natalie says to Nick on the telephone, "You're almost 800
> years old...."  So, if she's right, he couldn't have been born
before 1196 because
> that episode aired in 1995.  Anyway, just thought i'd share this for
the people who
> have been thinking a couple years earlier.

But what does "almost 800 years old" mean? Within 25 years? At that
age, "almost" is relative. It's like we say that Lacroix is 2000 years
old. But if he was 45 when Vesuvius blew up (his apparent age, IMO) in
79 AD, that means in 2003 he's actually  1,969 years old. We just
round it up. Maybe Nat's rounding up, too. <g>

What most people go with is "he was brought across in 1228..." and how
old Nick looks in the present day. The general thought is that he was
33-35 years old when he was brought across. 1228 minus 35 is 1193.

So that's the date I use for his birth year. FWIW.

Nancy Kaminski
nancykam@c.......

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Date:    Fri, 29 Aug 2003 22:44:50 -0700
From:    Megan Hull <mistrydder@y......>
Subject: weather facts

A question for Toronto people: around when is the first major snowfall?  And
how cool do the nights get in the summer?  Thanx!

                   -Megan


"Eternal nights too short,
How quickly melt away,
With all the love we shared once,
Forever in a Day."

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Date:    Sat, 30 Aug 2003 08:05:23 EDT
From:    Robin Tidwell <Robinchristine79@a.......>
Subject: Re: Close Call... whammy?

I always thought he did whammy him. I never noticed the lack of heartbeat in
the background, but I did hear the echo in the voice.

Robin
Cousin, Dark Perk, UF, The Butterscotch Lollipop
The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves.

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Date:    Sat, 30 Aug 2003 07:25:09 -0500
From:    eowyn3@j.......
Subject: Today's Birthday:  August 30

Hi Y'all!

Today is the birthday of:       Kezia Hepden            keziahepden@h.......

You can send birthday greetings to Kezia at the above e-mail address.
Please NOT to the list!

People who share birthdays on this date include:
Laurent de Brunhoff, Children's Author
Jean-Claude Killy, Skiier
Frederique Van Der Wal, Model, Businessperson
Jacques-Louis David, Painter
Rowland H. Macy, Merchant

Significant events on this date:
1146, A conference of European leaders outlawed the crossbow. They
thought this would end wars for all time.
1881, Clement Ader patented the first stereophonic sound system in
Germany.
1929, Colonel E. H. Green takes delivery of a new combination gas and
electric automobile, built by the General Electric Company.

I hope you have a very Happy Birthday, Kezia!

If you would like to be added to the birthday announcements, please send
your name, birthdate (no year needed) and e-mail address to me,
privately, eowyn3@j....... and I'll be glad to add you.

Terri
eowyn3@j......., eowyn@w.......
GWDFC, G-IV & V Attendee, Knighties Listowner, TKD, FK X-Stitcher,
Proud Survivor of Fk-fic  Wars 8-11, Keeper of the FK Birthday List
She can be taught!  But only in little bytes!

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Date:    Sat, 30 Aug 2003 07:23:39 -0500
From:    Amy <amilynh@c.......>
Subject: Re: Nick's date of birth

Sierra said:
>Natalie says to Nick on the telephone, "You're almost 800 years
>old...."  So, if
>she's right, he couldn't have been born before 1196 because that episode
>aired in
>1995.  Anyway, just thought i'd share this for the people who have been
>thinking a couple years earlier. Are there any comments in other eps that
>conflict
>with what Nat said?

I always assumed that whenever the "800" number was used, it was being
rounded.  I know that in casual conversation, were I Nat, I wouldn't do the
precise math and say, "You're 795 years old..."  Given how little Nick told
Nat (which, admittedly, was more than he told anyone *else*...), it's
possible she doesn't know his exact birthdate/year (though I know I'd
demand that kind of information for data keeping if I were her).

It's also possible that Nick didn't have an exact date of birth for
himself.  Now, given his family's standing, it is certainly more likely
that he *did* know, but records simply weren't as well-kept or
pervasively-kept at that time.

I just know that I wouldn't assume that an "almost 800" could be used as
data on his age to within a year or two; I'd think it would be more like to
within 20 years or so, given the tendency to round numbers especially in
conversation.  Also--given that this is a show that simply forgot that the
Battle of Hastings was in 1066--and around 150 years before Nick--I
wouldn't count on that as a definitive piece of data.

Now, re: Hastings, my own personal "fix" for that glitch is that I decided
that it was a private joke between them, or that Hastings was a bar
somewhere, or....   :-)

Amy

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Date:    Sat, 30 Aug 2003 08:59:08 -0700
From:    Emily <emilymhanson@y......>
Subject: Re: Lear

Patrick Stewart has also been here in the Twin Cities more than once,
IIRC, and a lot of sci-fi fans went to see him.  I know people who
would go to the Guthrie to see Ger (myself included).  It is definitely
an awesome theater.

--- Nancy Kaminski <nancykam@c.......> wrote:
>...In that case, they can move the play to the Guthrie here in
> Minneapolis. That's a really great theatre, and I've always hoped
> that Ger could work in a play here. Plummer's been here. Why not Ger?



=====
Emily M. Hanson
emilymhanson@y......
http://www.starbase-eprime.us

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Date:    Sat, 30 Aug 2003 06:41:08 -0700
From:    Cheryl Pillsbury <gerdavies2000@y......>
Subject: HypercubeII

Hello.  I'm sorry to be a pest, but I lost the paper on the person who asked me
for a copy of this movie.  Please e-mail me soon and it will be on its way to
you.  Stay safe.


He was brought across in1228
I was brought across in 1992
I will always be his Forever Knight
www.ForeverKnight.5u.com.


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Date:    Sat, 30 Aug 2003 11:39:51 -0700
From:    Liz the Lucky <luckyliz@c.......>
Subject: Re: Close Call... whammy?

Robin sed:
> I always thought he did whammy him. I never noticed the lack of heartbeat in
> the background, but I did hear the echo in the voice.

According to the closed captioning, he did. I can't remember the exact
words, though.

--
Hugs and Kisses,
Liz the Lucky           luckyliz@c.......
http://www.mindspring.com/~luckyliz
Who is Will? And why is everyone firing at him?

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