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FORKNI-L Digest - 12 Aug 2003 to 13 Aug 2003 (#2003-229)

Wed, 13 Aug 2003

There are 28 messages totalling 718 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. fk on dvd (6)
  2. Today's Birthday:  August 12
  3. Sony thank you (2)
  4. FORKNI-L Digest - 11 Aug 2003 to 12 Aug 2003 (#2003-228)
  5. TLC (6)
  6. Thank you gifts (3)
  7. Ger news
  8. correctiion on Ger's looks (4)
  9. Geordie Johnson in Stratford
 10. Perfect site for Libs
 11. Addendum to other post
 12. Nigel Bennett Newletters are out

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Date:    Tue, 12 Aug 2003 17:43:53 EDT
From:    Judith Lieberman <JudithL21@a.......>
Subject: fk on dvd

I guess this means I will have to get a dvd player.  I wonder if they have
them with
tape and dvd combos.  JudyL  who is probably behind the electonic times.

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Date:    Tue, 12 Aug 2003 17:52:25 -0400
From:    Gail <peteyurs@e.......>
Subject: Re: fk on dvd

From: "Judith Lieberman" <JudithL21@a.......>

> I guess this means I will have to get a dvd player.  I wonder if they have
> them with
> tape and dvd combos.  JudyL  who is probably behind the electonic times.

Go Video makes combos.

Gail

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Date:    Tue, 12 Aug 2003 18:34:05 EDT
From:    Michele Canterbury <Mobody@a.......>
Subject: Re: fk on dvd

In a message dated 8/12/2003 5:45:02 PM Eastern Standard Time,
JudithL21@a....... writes:

> I guess this means I will have to get a dvd player.  I wonder if they have
> them with
> tape and dvd combos.  JudyL  who is probably behind the electonic times.

Last Time I was in Walmart they had a DVD/VHS combo for $109, a basic DVD
player for $49

Unless you have a TV with Stereo or S-Video output, you will need an RF
adaptor (another $19 to 29)

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Date:    Tue, 12 Aug 2003 17:35:11 -0500
From:    eowyn3@j.......
Subject: Today's Birthday:  August 12

Hi Y'all!

Today is the birthday of: Sunny LaCountess           countessa2000@y......

You can send birthday greetings to Sunny at the above e-mail address.
Please NOT to the list!

People who share birthdays on this date include:
William Goldman,  Author, Screen/Scriptwriter
George Hamilton, TV/Movie Actor
Michael Kidd, Choreographer
 Buck Owens, Country/Western Performer
Cecil B. De Mille, Movie Producer/Director

Significant events on this date:
1658, the first police force in the U.S. was established in New York City
(then New Amsterdam).
1812, Dr. Joseph Lister became the first surgeon to use disinfectant
during an operation.
1898, The peace protocol ending the Spanish-American War was signed.
1977, the space shuttle Enterprise passed its first solo flight test.
1981, IBM introduced the PC personal computer.

I hope you have a very Happy Birthday, Sunny!

If you would like to be added to the birthday announcements, please send
your name, birthdate (no year needed) and e-mail address to me,
privately, eowyn3@j....... and I'll be glad to add you.

Terri
eowyn3@j......., eowyn@w.......
GWDFC, G-IV & V Attendee, Knighties Listowner, TKD, FK X-Stitcher,
Proud Survivor of Fk-fic  Wars 8-11, Keeper of the FK Birthday List
She can be taught!  But only in little bytes!

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Date:    Tue, 12 Aug 2003 19:10:56 EDT
From:    Alifoxx@a.......
Subject: Re: Sony thank you

In a message dated 8/12/2003 5:01:02 PM, LISTSERV@l....... writes:

<< Since the DVDs aren't being issued as a favor to the fans, but as a
commercial enterprise geared to maximizing profits, might I suggest that the
more sets
they sell -- and we buy -- would be the best, and only, "thank you" required?
 >>

Julia...you are a clear thinker...thank you.

Sony spent years and years forgetting we FK fans existed!!!! To applaud their
final "cave in"  after 6 or 7 years since the show stopped production is in
my mind ludicrous.

Let's be greatful for the dvd's...buy them en masse...PLEASE..... and if we
must auction items, send the money to a deserving cause...not Sony...in any
form!!! They will reap the rewards they deserve if we buy the dvds...and they
need nothing more. There are many needy causes we could send the proceeds
to...Children's Hospital for one.

I know the idea of a movie will be brought up at this point and I would
remind everyone that Geraint Wyn Davies, although a wonderful actor, is now 46
years old and has changed a good deal. The likelyhood of a movie is minimal to
zero......in my opinion...at least with the past cast.

From a lurker...Janet L.

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Date:    Tue, 12 Aug 2003 19:14:09 EDT
From:    Alifoxx@a.......
Subject: Re: FORKNI-L Digest - 11 Aug 2003 to 12 Aug 2003 (#2003-228)

In a message dated 8/12/2003 5:01:02 PM, LISTSERV@l....... writes:

<< You've been out of the loop too long!  That's where we're going this
weekend! LOL >>

LOL Adina...see you there!

Janet L.

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Date:    Tue, 12 Aug 2003 19:24:49 EDT
From:    Michele Canterbury <Mobody@a.......>
Subject: Re: Sony thank you

In a message dated 8/12/2003 7:11:42 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Alifoxx@a....... writes:

> I know the idea of a movie will be brought up at this point and I would
> remind everyone that Geraint Wyn Davies, although a wonderful actor, is now
> 46 years old and has changed a good deal. The likelyhood of a movie is
> minimal to zero......in my opinion...at least with the past cast.

I would have to agree with you.  About the only way GWD could play Nick at
his age would be if NK became human at the end of Last Knight .. But... since he
seems to have a penchant for playing baddies these days.. I could see him in
the role of LaCroix.

Farfetched you say??? Might I mention that Patty Duke played both Helen
Keller and Annie Sullivan in two versions of the Miracle worker?  And what about
Nigel?? well I could suggest an older, even more evil Vampire... But I am just
dreaming here.

Mo

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Date:    Tue, 12 Aug 2003 19:43:03 EDT
From:    KaAG@a.......
Subject: Re: fk on dvd

In a message dated 8/12/2003 4:45:05 PM Central Daylight Time,
JudithL21@a....... writes:
wonder if they have them with tape and dvd combos.  JudyL
Yes, they do... that's what I have. I am waiting anxiously for my preordered
package from Barnes & Noble!

Karen <doing a happy dance>

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Date:    Tue, 12 Aug 2003 21:26:10 -0500
From:    DLPH <DLPH@c.......>
Subject: TLC

I was just watching "Vampires Among Us "  on TLC

There was a guy on there that said

"Some people are into vampres like buffy and FOREVER KNIGHT
Their like vampire Trekkies"

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Date:    Tue, 12 Aug 2003 20:46:05 -0700
From:    FKMel <sgt_buck_frobisher@y......>
Subject: Re: TLC

I've seen Vampires Among Us twice, taped it the second
time. I considered telling the gang that it was going
to be on, but since that was the only mention of FK
and it was really brief, I wasn't sure it was worth
it. It's mostly about the vampire subculture and myth
background anyway.

Mel

=====
The trouble with immortality is that it tends to go on forever-Herb Cain
FK:NickNatPacker, Knight of the Cross,Knightie, Natpacker/Highlander:Duncan
Flag-Waver/Due South Fan/Tracker Fan/Angel Fan/Port Charles Fan

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Date:    Tue, 12 Aug 2003 01:45:20 -0500
From:    Becky Hinson <bayoubecky@c.......>
Subject: Re: Thank you gifts

>Since the DVDs aren't being issued as a favor to the fans, but as a
>commercial enterprise geared to maximizing profits, might I suggest that
>the more sets
>they sell -- and we buy -- would be the best, and only, "thank you" required?

That's a tough call.  I can see where a lot of people would be wanting to
send thank you gifts, because this is something we've been waiting for for a
long time.  However...  I'm finding that I'm agreeing more with you.

Don't get me wrong, I'm as happy and thankful as the next person.  But these
aren't being issued as a special favor to us as a group, or to the KtK
group, or anyone else.  This is being offered to the general public.
Perhaps we (as a whole) did influence TPTB to release the series on DVD a
little sooner than they normally would have.  But who's to say that's the
case?

Okay, I'm rambling now.  Sorry.  My point was that I think Julia is right.
If we purchase sets, and then manage to convince our
friends/families/kids/strangers we met on the street to buy them as well,
then they'll realize that we really wanted these and that they're
appreciated.

Just my humble two cents...  please leave any and all flames at the door in
the bucket of water I have provided.

:)
~Cousin Becky (who promises never to be this verbose again)

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Date:    Tue, 12 Aug 2003 21:48:14 -0700
From:    Megan Hull <mistrydder@y......>
Subject: Re: TLC

>"Some people are into vampres like buffy and FOREVER KNIGHT
>Their like vampire Trekkies"

Vampire *trekkies*?!?!?  OK, we seriously need our own weirdo-designation-name.
Vampies?  Fang-gangers?  Slurpies?  (OK, that last one was bad, but work with me
here, people.)

                 -Megan


"Eternal nights too short,
How quickly melt away,
With all the love we shared once,
Forever in a Day."

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Date:    Tue, 12 Aug 2003 07:06:50 +0930
From:    jennii35 <jennii35@i.......>
Subject: Re: Ger news

  They didn't say
  it's still a surprise   lol

   Dot

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Date:    Wed, 13 Aug 2003 04:07:16 -0700
From:    Cheryl Pillsbury <gerdavies2000@y......>
Subject: correctiion on Ger's looks

A few have written why Mr. Wyn Davies can't play Nick.

I say, oh yes he can.  The magic of Hollywood and make up.  You can put in a
time lapse and say he changed his looks to pass through time so no one would
notice.  Think about it.  He would be just fine in the roll.  And so would
Nigel.  Sorry friends.
Cheryl Pillsbury
gerdavies2000@y......


He was brought across in1228
I was brought across in 1992
I will always be his Forever Knight
www.ForeverKnight.5u.com.

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Date:    Wed, 13 Aug 2003 04:14:38 -0700
From:    fkforever <fkforever@y......>
Subject: Re: TLC

<<Some people are into vampres like buffy and FOREVER KNIGHT
Their like vampire Trekkies"  >> << Megan wrote --> OK, we seriously need
our own weirdo-designation name.>>

How about "FKers"




=====
Desiree

www.knighties.50megs.com
www.suncoastbible.org

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Date:    Wed, 13 Aug 2003 07:21:01 -0400
From:    Stephanie Kellerman <stephke@i.......>
Subject: Re: correctiion on Ger's looks

As far as I am concerned everyone could play their own roles over again
for this reason.  If we suspend belief  when we watch a show about
vampires we should be easily able to suspend belief that they ever
changed.  At least I wouldn't care. I wouldn't want anyone else in the
roles.

Cheryl Pillsbury wrote:

>A few have written why Mr. Wyn Davies can't play Nick.
>
>I say, oh yes he can.  The magic of Hollywood and make up.   And so would
Nigel.  Sorry friends.
>
>
Steph
stephke@i.......
http://www.fkvoyage.com
http://www.richardbasehart.com
http://www.sbar.org   Support Santa Barbara Animal Rescue
"The sea..where each man, as in a mirror, finds himself", Richard Basehart as
Ishmael

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Date:    Wed, 13 Aug 2003 04:27:51 -0700
From:    fkforever <fkforever@y......>
Subject: Re: correctiion on Ger's looks

--- Cheryl Pillsbury <gerdavies2000@y......> wrote:
> A few have written why Mr. Wyn Davies can't play Nick.
>
> I say, oh yes he can.  ...And so would Nigel Bennett.


I'm with you Cheryl!!!  I don't care if they don't even give a reason.
I just want the show, move or mini series with some or ALL of the cast.
We could even have the 3rd season be a (K)nightmare if Lisa Ryder can't
comeback and we can get John Kaplos.

Now if we can only coax Debroah DuChene back. or at least get
a very close look-a-like.

and no I did not forget Catherine Disher.  <g>


=====
Desiree

www.knighties.50megs.com
www.suncoastbible.org

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Date:    Wed, 13 Aug 2003 07:28:07 EDT
From:    Libratsie@a.......
Subject: Re: Thank you gifts

In a message dated 8/12/03 10:52:42 PM Central Daylight Time,
bayoubecky@c....... writes:


> If we purchase sets, and then manage to convince our
> friends/families/kids/strangers we met on the street to buy them as well,
> then they'll realize that we really wanted these and that they're
> appreciated.

Of course that is what WILL make an impression - sales. We are talking a
business here.

But there's nothing wrong with doing the unusual, with showing a little of
the milk of human kindness for which FK fans are so known for. We aren't talking
a huge gift, but rather a small thank you that shows them there are humans
behind the statistics of the sales, not just the number of the DVDs flying off
the shelves.

Another person mentioned doing something for charity. FK fans are WELL known
for their generosity in that regards and we are constantly raising money for
this cause or that. The LCA event is coming up in October, for example. That
descended from Bridging the knight, if I recall correctly.

I don't see anything wrong with a civil thank you. People don't thank people
enough these days. Yes, Sony is a business but there are humans behind that
business. There are humans behind the decisions being made. Just as there are
humans behind fandom.

If you don't want to participate in a thank you drive, then don't. I personally
have written letters over the years to keep FK on Sci Fi, then to bring it
back to Sci Fi, then to put it on video or DVD. That showed them there WERE
fans out here. If Sony had never heard a peep about the show, if the reruns and
Sci Fi hadn't been popular, then we wouldn't have our DVDs coming out.

It will be important to show them sales number to get seasons 2 and 3 - that
WILL be the most important thing. It won't hurt to show them there are also
appreciative PEOPLE behind those numbers. It may not mean a hill of beans if we
thank them or not when it comes to getting seasons 2 and 3 out, but that's not
the point. The point is to show them we do appreciate the PEOPLE behind the
decision.

We aren't talking about thousands of dollars worth of thanks.

Besides, DVDs are just one form of merchandise - maybe we could bring the
novels back, official t-shirts, action figures, comic books, and all those other
fun things.

I've seen a thank you impress a "power that be" in another business to the
point the person who wrote the thank you card got the job over everyone else
qualifications and number of years of experience aside. A thank you never hurts,
and it sometimes moves mountains.

Libs

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Date:    Wed, 13 Aug 2003 08:18:51 EDT
From:    Michele Canterbury <Mobody@a.......>
Subject: Re: TLC

In a message dated 8/13/03 7:15:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
fkforever@y...... writes:

> How about "FKers

Ummm.. errrrr.. Better think about that one.  I couldnt use anything FK in a
vanity plate because its interpreted as a "forbidden word"

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Date:    Wed, 13 Aug 2003 09:16:52 EDT
From:    Robin Tidwell <Robinchristine79@a.......>
Subject: Re: fk on dvd

In a message dated 8/12/2003 6:34:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, Mobody@a.......
writes:

> Last Time I was in Walmart they had a DVD/VHS combo for $109, a basic DVD
> player for $49
>

I bought a DVD at Walmart for about $50 and three months later, it stoped
working. I would pay at least $100 dollars for a good DVD player

Robin

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Date:    Wed, 13 Aug 2003 09:44:36 -0400
From:    Libratsie@a.......
Subject: Re: fk on dvd

In a message dated 8/13/2003 9:16:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
Robinchristine79@a....... writes:

>
> I bought a DVD at Walmart for about $50 and three months later, it stoped
> working. I would pay at least $100 dollars for a good DVD
> player

In the interest of those who will be buying DVD players to watch the FK DVDs:

I have had three DVD players, still have two. The first one was an expensive
Sony. PIECE OF GARBAGE. Skipped. Turned itself off. Overall worked when it
wanted to work (this all after the warranty date passed). It finally refused to
even turn on, and I had to dismantal it to get the DVD out.

I then bought... I can't remember the brand, but it was the cheapest one I could
find at the time at Sam's Club. $89 and it had a 3-DVD changer. I love this one!
I can stick 3 DVDs in and flip from one to the other without leaving the sofa.
You might call it the "Nick Knight" version - hahah (due to all his remotes)

I also have a GO DVD/vhs tape recorder/player combo. I also love this one
although it won't play VCDs people have given me (home made DVDs so to speak).
Very easy to hook up, good picture, I can watch videos and DVDs on the same
device. The only gripe I have is that it automatically turns on the DVD player
when I turn on the machine, but a click on the remote stops it and I can switch
to video view or tv view. It was $199 or so at the time i got it, but I've seem
them less expensive.

I read a report about a year ago that paying for brand name with DVD players
doesn't always pay off. You are basically paying for the name, plus bells and
whistles you may or may not need. So if you're broke, the el cheapos might do. I
did have a friend who bought one of the $49 ones and had to take it back to
exchange, but that could have happened with a $600 one.

Keep your receipt and box until the warranty expires so if you have trouble, you
can get it taken care of. Although we apparently aren't getting extras with FK,
the DVDs hold up better than videos and take up less space. I doubt they are
digitally enhancing the pictures at this price, so it may be a video quality
picture but I still would rather have that on DVD than video.

Just be sure not to buy a DVD from any bald guy with a cockney accent who stops
you after dark. Of course if it is a member of the Ratpack, buy a dozen ;-) <g>

Libs

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Date:    Wed, 13 Aug 2003 08:55:44 -0500
From:    Lindy Cooksey <lindy@w.......>
Subject: Geordie Johnson in Stratford

After a tip from a friend yesterday, I talked to the box office this
morning and was told that Geordie is taking on the role of Troilus in
Troilus and Cressida, which opens tonight, in place of David Snelgrove who
was injured in a bike accident.  The show runs until Sept 28.

Lindy :)

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Date:    Wed, 13 Aug 2003 09:15:32 -0500
From:    DLPH <DLPH@c.......>
Subject: Re: TLC

> Vampire *trekkies*?!?!?  OK, we seriously need our own
> weirdo-designation-name.  Vampies?
> Fang-gangers?  Slurpies?  (OK, that last one was bad, but work with me
> here, people.)

I thought it was funny too
mabye we should we start calling LC captin insted of uncle

Would LC be fighting Picard?
or would it be easier to bring him over?

 . . . I think I just stared a crossover . . . . COOL

>  How about "FKers"

its too much like  F**Kers
Maybe just   "Knights"

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Date:    Wed, 13 Aug 2003 08:34:55 -0700
From:    Maura Tremayne <admin@s.......>
Subject: Re: correctiion on Ger's looks

--- Cheryl Pillsbury <gerdavies2000@y......> wrote:
>A few have written why Mr. Wyn Davies can't play Nick.
>I say, oh yes he can.  The magic of Hollywood and make up.  You can put in a
>time lapse and say he changed his looks to pass through time so no one would
>notice.  Think about it.  He would be just fine in the roll.  And so would
>Nigel.  Sorry friends.


Come on - with as many people drooling over Ger are there are - on and off-list,
who really cares how many years have passed? He still looks great - on stage and
in person - and personally, when he's 95, he'll still have everything going for
him. Because there is something about that man that has absolutely nothing to do
with his looks that makes him VERY attractive. Wish I could define it better
than that. But there it is.

Maura

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Date:    Wed, 13 Aug 2003 09:16:12 -0700
From:    "~little red fox~" <red@s.......>
Subject: Re: Thank you gifts

I'm just going to send a nice card.  Nothing extravagant, no gift.  Just a
simple Thank You.
...and maybe a polaroid of me holding my DVDs, surrounded by my FK books and
grinning my head off.  =)

Amy

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Date:    Wed, 13 Aug 2003 11:04:14 -0700
From:    Amanda Berendt <debrabant_foundation@y......>
Subject: Perfect site for Libs

I am at work and I was going on bored.com.  There is a site listed
there that will translate any phrase or even a website (you enter the
URL) into different dialects such as pig latin, moron, redneck
and........  cockney!

You can make an entire website come up in screed-speak!

-Amanda

=====
"Give me your soul and your heart will take flight
Forevermore in the night, Forever MINE in the night"
http://operacellar.tripod.com/phantomslair.html
http://debrabantfoundation.tripod.com/home.html

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Date:    Wed, 13 Aug 2003 11:16:04 -0700
From:    Amanda Berendt <debrabant_foundation@y......>
Subject: Addendum to other post

Ok, I'm stupid.. forgot to put the link

The Dialectizer
http://rinkworks.com/dialect/



=====
"Give me your soul and your heart will take flight
Forevermore in the night, Forever MINE in the night"
http://operacellar.tripod.com/phantomslair.html
http://debrabantfoundation.tripod.com/home.html

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Date:    Wed, 13 Aug 2003 14:14:39 -0500
From:    Lisa McDavid <mclisa@m.......>
Subject: Nigel Bennett Newletters are out

Jayne L'argent, jiteow@totalink.net, has asked me to tell Forkni-l that the
Nigel Bennett Newsletters have been sent to the members of the Nigel Bennett
Network. If any member didn't get hiss or hers, please contact Jayne.

McLisa
mclisa@m.......

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