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FORKNI-L Digest - 16 Jun 2003 to 17 Jun 2003 (#2003-174)

Tue, 17 Jun 2003

There are 25 messages totalling 753 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. hello Becky and all
  2. when I joined
  3. Admin: Forkni-l Rules (2)
  4. Hello, All (4)
  5. Hello All (4)
  6. Paring with Shooting Scripts
  7. Hello all (4)
  8. Caddy spotting (3)
  9. hello all (3)
 10. Hello All :)
 11. New FK Site Addresses


Date:    Mon, 16 Jun 2003 14:23:54 -0700
From:    Cheryl Pillsbury <gerdavies2000@y......>
Subject: hello Becky and all

Hello, Becky asked about my daughter.  She is mentally retarded, PDD-Autistic,
unknown muscle disorder, she will be 10 but her ability is about2.  Non-verbal,
partially deaf, baby food, diapers, etc.  But she's perfect to me.  She's my one
and only.
I graduated in 1978, 1990 from college.  I've been into scifi since I was 7 or
8.  I'm a life time trekkie.  I love all the classic's.  Bela lugosi, Boris
Karloff, Loe Channey,etc.  Vampires are my favorite.  Sadly, I didn't find the
club till about seven months ago or so.  I saw the movie of FK, but GWD is the
best and so is Nigel.  I could go on forever, but I won't.  Thanks.
Cheryl PIllsbury

He was brought across in1228
I was brought across in 1992
I will always be his Forever Knight


Date:    Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:00:08 -0700
From:    litbeing <litbeing@y......>
Subject: when I joined

Greetings all,
I joined the list, I think, in 1992 or 93, I cannot remember.  I found the show
on CBS Crimetime after Primetime.  I thought, cool.
I have been with a partner for 25 years.  We are child-free and have two cats.
Both silly.
I am proud to say, and I shall say it, that I am the creator of the N&N phrase
"In love and faith there is forever.".
Bloody good,


Date:    Mon, 16 Jun 2003 22:34:14 +0100
From:    Kezia Hepden <kezia.hepden@b.......>
Subject: Re: Admin: Forkni-l Rules

> McLisa, on her way to a cat show
Oooohh!  Lucky McLisa!  Can I come too?

Cousin Kezia, being glared at by her two kitties for such temerity - aren't
Aaron and Jeffery *more* than good enough (and more than enough) for her?


Date:    Mon, 16 Jun 2003 16:28:38 -0700
From:    Liz the Lucky <luckyliz@c.......>
Subject: Re: Admin: Forkni-l Rules

Kezia sed:
> Cousin Kezia, being glared at by her two kitties for such temerity - aren't
> Aaron and Jeffery *more* than good enough (and more than enough) for her?
> <G>

There is no such thing as enough cats. And even when you think there
is, the neighbor's indoor-only cat decides she doesn't like living
there, and the next thing you know, she's made herself at home on your

Hmmm, we know how LC felt about Raleigh, but I wonder how he'd take it
if a cat did that to him? And can anyone else totally see Janette
having a cat?

Hugs and Kisses,
Liz the Lucky           luckyliz@c.......
Who is Will? And why is everyone firing at him?

*Her name's Milo, and I have pictures for anyone who'd like to take a
look at her. She's gorgeous. And such a sweetie. <G>


Date:    Mon, 16 Jun 2003 16:40:01 -0700
From:    fkforever <fkforever@y......>
Subject: Re: Hello, All

<<Laurie of the Isles <laudon1228@y......> wrote: I know what you mean
McL, I'm 38 but life continues to baffle the hell out of me, most days I
feel about 12, 16 on a really good day. <g> >>

You took the words right out of my mouth!!!
Do any of us really figure out this thing called life?
We mortals <g> age in the wrong direction.  Just when your at the
place in your life that you kinda figure things out, your getting
old.  I can't believe I'll be <gasp> 37 in 2 weeks.

<<FK will always be my first online home. >>

Mine to!!!




Date:    Mon, 16 Jun 2003 17:00:42 -0700
From:    Emily <emilymhanson@y......>
Subject: Re: Hello All



I'm 27 & live in Minnesota, in the Twin Cities metro area.  I've been a
sci-fi/fantasy fan since I was a kid and watched classic Trek re-runs
for the first time.  I saw Forever Knight when it was first shown in
the US.  As for writing, I've been doing that forever.  I can't wait
for the FK DVDs.  :)

Emily M. Hanson


Date:    Mon, 16 Jun 2003 19:34:38 -0500
From:    katrinka <katrinka@f.......>
Subject: Re: Hello All

Let's see. I'm going to celebrate my 20th anniversary of my 19th
birthday on the first of July. I teach LD/MR/ED/OHI Special Education
lab. I've been married for 16 years. I have a nine year old son named
David, two dogs and six fish. I live in the outback of Oklahoma.

I got into FK when I started watching crime time after primetime. But
they canned it here after a few eps. When I got online after my son was
born, I joined this list, and became a knightie.

My house number  is 1228. kind of strange for a knightie leader! :)


Date:    Mon, 16 Jun 2003 20:53:27 EDT
From:    Libratsie@a.......
Subject: Re: Hello All

I knew about FORKNI-L and FKFIC-L before joining.

I actually discovered FK when it was on CBS one night when I was flipping
channels. But I only saw enough of an episode to determine the main character
was a vampire. As things like that go, I never managed to find the show again
and basically forgot about it.

During season 2, I remember people in the local science fiction club talking
about it, but I just never managed to watch it. Rather strange as normally it
is something I would have given a chance, I just never did.

I started watching officially at the beginning of Season 3. I'd just been in
my second horrible car wreck in 18 months and was strung out on Valium to try
to make me comfortable. My now-ex and I hosted the local science fiction club
at our house, so a couple of people came to the next meeting to check on me,
mainly. One of them asked if we minded turning on tv as FOREVER KNIGHT was
premiering season 3 and there were suppose to be some major cast changes.

I rather liked it! So the next week, REALLY strung out on Valium because
unknown to me, I was overdosing on it, I watched it. This cockney droog named
Screed was eating rats.

Imagine that scene while you are flying high on valium. Whoa. I was very
upset to find he was a new character so hadn't been in other episodes eating

I was enrolled in a script writing class at the time, and we had to submit
three story ideas for existing tv shows. One of mine was for FK. I went to a
convention in Oklahoma and was telling someone (maybe PN Elrod, I don't
remember) about the class, and whomever it was told me the show was at risk for

Ooopsie. The good news about the convention was that Katrinka (who just
posted her history) agreed to send me episodes from season 1 and 2. She and some
friends filled me in on FORKNI-L, FKFIC-L, and wars.

I was on-line at the time, but just not really "into" cyber space yet. But
for the class, I had to research whether or not the show was cancelled. By this
time, several months had passed and show we knew for sure it had.  But I also
found a notice about the virtual 4th season. So I subscribed to FKFIC to
receive and get involved with that.

Time for yet another Oklahoma convention. PN Elrod showed me a flyer for
Bridging the Knight. Katrinka talked me into joining JADFE. I talked my
then-husband into going to BtK.

I wrote a 2 part story for JADFE and got MAJORLY flamed off-list by two
people (who I don't think remember doing it). I was so upset, I basically posted
a message to JADFE saying if that's the way I was going to be treated, I was
taking the second part of my story and signing off the list.

Well over 100 fan e-mails asking me to stay later, I had QUITE a reputation
(and not as a Ratpacker yet - Screed wasn't in the story!) I didn't post my
first Screed story until Christmas of that year (on FKFIC)

BtK was after Christmas, wasn't it??? (Someone HELP!) In any case, I arrived
at Bridging the Knight with a reputation, somewhat known as a Ratpacker
already, and with a bank loan to get The Ratsie Wot Kilt Screed. I was told it
was quite clear I was getting that rat (and I did).

Highlights included McLisa managing to sit next to me at the auction, leaning
over to read my nametag, and saying, "Your Libby? You are SO cute!" (She
doesn't remember saying that, but she did - I'm a rather small person and I
think that's what she was remarking on). Another highlight of the event was
Nigel Bennett and PN Elrod talking me into throwing the rat in front of John
Kapelos while he was signing autographs.

Since BtK, I managed to meet Greg "Screed" Kramer thanks to Bonnie P. (We
introduced each other, she went to get drinks, and claims Greg and I were bonded
by the time she got back with them - he's a comic book fan, I'm a comic book
writer... we were happily talking about comic books). I now help run his fan
klub. (www.screedwashere.com)

I also am well known for discovering the fact Screed loves his Natsie Ratsie
and vice versa.  Yep, it's true! Right there in FEVER for all to see.

As for the Ratsie, well, it lives quite comfy in its police evidence bag in a
nightstand drawer so I can quickly get to it in the event of tornadoes or

I also can NOT wait for the DVDs!



Date:    Mon, 16 Jun 2003 18:04:18 -0700
From:    "Susan M. Garrett" <susanmgarrett@e.......>
Subject: Paring with Shooting Scripts

Due to financial difficulties, I'm parting with a few items from my
collection on Ebay.  Right now I have up three ORIGINAL (NOT photocopies)
shooting scripts - Black Buddha part 1 and part 2 in one auction and Human
Faction in another auction.

The scripts are signed by Ger (original signature - NOT a photocopy) and
Human Factor is also signed by one of the authors, Larry LaLonde.  Ger also
directed both of these episodes.

You can find these items through my ebay username, susangarrett, or by
searching for Forever Knight.

susanmgarrett@e.......  -- EVER Faithful Ravenette.
  FK Fiction - http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/2167/fiction.htm
"Friends help you move.  Real friends help you move bodies."


Date:    Mon, 16 Jun 2003 18:07:26 -0700
From:    "~little red fox~" <red@s.......>
Subject: Re: Hello all

Hi all! I'll join the fun.  I'm 29 (urk), married, two tabbies, do tech
support for an ISP and live in _______ BC.  Dianne, you took the words
right out of my mouth as far as my viewing history goes - I too watched the
movie, then saw FK on Crimetime after Primetime, followed it as it wandered
all over the TV.  I only looked for FK online after LK (never happened), and
have been a regular lurker ever since!  My DVD player is drooling just
thinking about the DVDs. In fact, it's looking at me funny right now.  ;)

Amy (sometimes a.k.a. Red)
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One says to the other: "Does this taste
funny to you?"


Date:    Mon, 16 Jun 2003 20:31:46 -0500
From:    Nancy Kaminski <nancykam@a.......>
Subject: Re: Caddy spotting

> Tim Phillips wrote:

> Next on Monster Garage!
> Jesse James builds a Cool Custom Canadian Vampire Cruiser!!!

Now that's a program I'd watch! (I do like MG---they do extremely evil
things, like turning an innocent MINI into a snowmobile <g>).

> I vote for starting with a new Mercury Maurauder.  Got more wallop
> than the Caddy for those high-speed pursuits and profiles like a
> great-white in a gold-fish tank.

I'd never heard of these and looked it up, and I have to agree it's a
pretty agressive-looking muscle car! I generally don't like US cars,
but this one makes quite an impression. I'd hate to see one of those
gaining on me in my rear-view mirror. <g>

Nancy Kaminski


Date:    Mon, 16 Jun 2003 20:46:48 -0500
From:    Nancy Kaminski <nancykam@a.......>
Subject: Re: Hello all

Okay, my turn...

I'm 48, single, with a dachshund, a horse, and a betta in a vase on
the kitchen table. I work as a technical writer and editor, and dabble
in fic writing (not enough, lately, but I'm trying to work it in).

I was told about FK by a coworker, I believe it was in the third
season (because she was hot for the long-haired guy <g.). I remember
laughing at the premise, but tuned in anyway and after two viewings
was hooked. I'd just discovered the internet and found a newsgroup,
and then fkfanfic.com, and then this list. I dived in head first and
haven't surfaced yet!

I've attended two Gertherings and five LCAs, and gone to Stratford to
see Ger last summer. I've also met the nicest people onlist (waves at
everyone). It's all been a blast!

Nancy Kaminski


Date:    Mon, 16 Jun 2003 22:14:06 EDT
From:    Libratsie@a.......
Subject: Re: Hello all

You know, I failed to mentioned all my yahoogroups mailing lists! That is
certainly a part of a hello:

FKspiked (for fans of FK who are also Buffy fans)
FKDrued (a sister list to the above, but we allow spoilers on this one, not
the other)
Rainbow Knights (for FK fans who are gay, lesbian, transgered and their
thecrew (for fans of the vampires of the third season - a VERY quiet list :-(

Gosh... I"m sure there's others... hahaha.



Date:    Mon, 16 Jun 2003 22:22:23 -0400
From:    allison <smilewithviolets@n.......>
Subject: Re: hello all

Hi, my name is Allison and i'm.... a knightaholic. *Hi Allison*  i'm 26, a
body piercer, and have a BA in English, Creative Writing concentration
(though sometimes you wouldn't know it).  i have an old dog named Shadow -
12 this summer.  And recently ordered my MINI Cooper. :D hehe.

>>i'm in _______ Ma. Judy Lieberman

Hey, we're just about neighbours.  i'm fourty min. west towards _______.

Unnamed Cousin
"So pale, so cold, so beautiful
if not clinically insane."


Date:    Mon, 16 Jun 2003 22:35:38 -0500
From:    Lorraine Griepentrog <snail@s.......>
Subject: Re: Hello all

Jumping in to add my $.02.
I hit 55 in April, have 3 grown kids.  Just got the last married and
managed to finish her silk wedding gown BEFORE the wedding.
First found FK on CBS late night when I had a terrible cold and couldn't
sleep.  Started in the middle of the first season and was hooked.  Found
forkni-l when we finally got a home computer some time in the second
season, I think.
Lorraine Griepentrog
Forever Knightie


Date:    Mon, 16 Jun 2003 22:50:04 -0500
From:    eowyn3@j.....
Subject: Re: hello all

Hi Y'all!

I've told this story before but I'll chime in again <G>  I'm single but
have a very large furry and feathered family that consists of 3 cats, 2
dogs, 2 horses, 1 Barbado sheep and 3 Bantam chickens.  I'm a Special
Education teacher.

I found FK one night when I was channel surfing, landed on CBS and saw a
really good looking blond guy faint into the arms of a priest (For I Have
Sinned).  I was intrigued and watched for the show the next week.  I
finally figured out that the blond guy was a vampire named Nick and that
was all I needed to know.

Then a friend found Mel's fiction site and began downloading the fiction
for me.  Then in July 1996 my house was burglarized and my dinosaur of a
computer was stolen.  The only good thing to come out of that burglary
was that I got the money for a decent computer with a modem so that I
could get online.  I joined the fiction list as soon as I got my new
computer and 6 months later joined forkni-l (about 3 weeks before War 8).
 I plunged into War 8 without having a clue as to what I was doing!  I've
met some really great folks through the lists and the Wars.  FK was my
first online fandom and no matter where my obses...er...passions lead me,
this will always be "home."

I currently maintain the birthday list and post birthday announcements
for the list.  E-mail me PRIVATELY, at eowyn3@j..... with your name,
birthdate (no year needed) and e-mail address and I'll be glad to add you
to the birthday announcements.

Anything else you want to know about me FK-wise is in my sig. <G>

eowyn3@j....., eowyn@w.......
GWDFC, G-IV & V Attendee, Knighties Listowner, TKD, FK X-Stitcher,
Proud Survivor of Fk-fic  Wars 8-11, Keeper of the FK Birthday List
She can be taught!  But only in little bytes!


Date:    Mon, 16 Jun 2003 23:02:03 -0500
From:    Margie Hammet <treeleaf@i.......>
Subject: Re: Hello All :)

>Sun, 15 Jun 2003 21:51:16 -0700  From:    Liz the Lucky

>And to bring this on topic, in AMPH, Nick was referred to as a young
>one by LaCroix.

Ah! That makes me feel better.  I'm 52 and feel old, mostly due to the
arthritis in my knees.  The good news is that I can walk without pain,
now.  The bad news is that it takes incessant exercising to keep it that
way.  The good news is that I'm exercising!

I found Forever Knight when I was dialing around one summer.  I found the
list  shortly after my husband hooked a modem up to our computer.  I really
wasn't interested in getting out on the internet at the time.  But, I was
torturing some poor co-worker with my obsession to talk about Forever
Knight, and to get me to stop, he said, "You know, there's probably an
email list for that show you're always talking about."  I went home that
evening, did a search for Forever Knight and found this list and the old FK
Spoiler list.  I was soon happily inundated by mail.

I don't post much any more, mostly because I figure I've pretty much given
every opinion I've ever had about the episodes by this time, so now I just
enjoy hearing what everyone else has to say.  Also, I can't spend as much
time at the computer anymore, 'cause nowadays, if I sit at the computer, I
have to tip my head back to see through the bifocals, which soon causes
quite a bit of pain (eeyowch! down my arm, shoulder, shoulder blade,
etc.)  Folks I talked to at Wolfville a couple of years ago probably
remember me mentioning that.  Thank heavens, that pain is gone.  (Although,
it would have been nice if it had gone away the week before I went to Nova
Scotia instead of the week after.  Oh, well.)

Anyways, if I can ever find a computer desk that lets me put my computer
monitor below the writing surface of the desk, that might solve my bifocals
problem.  Anybody know of one?  Of course, if I ever find a desk like that,
I might just start posting more again.  You have been warned!  <g>

Bring 'em back alive!
Margie (treeleaf@i.......)
Cousin of the Knight ~ N&NPacker
CotK Site -- http://lavender.fortunecity.com/evildead/879/


Date:    Mon, 16 Jun 2003 00:04:02 -0400
From:    Marg <mytoronto@r.......>
Subject: Hello, All

I know i'm not the oldest person on this list, but I'm getting up there,
having been happily retired for several years. Willing house slave to
two feisty calico cats.

i've been a fan of Forever Knight since the first episode aired in
Canada in 1992. In fact it was learning from the newspapers that FK had
a mailing list that impelled me to buy a computer and a modem and get
on-line.  I can hardly believe I'm still a dedicated FK fan after 11
years. I have never been that interested in any TV show, before or
since, not even the original Star Trek.

My next "career" became acting as tour guide for the many FK fans who
came to Toronto and wanted to see the FK film sites. There haven't been
as many visitors of late, but the tours are still available even though
some of the film sites are no longer standing.

Marg mytoronto@r.......
In Toronto, the City of the Knight
(still trying to recover from the effects of the SARS media hysteria)


Date:    Tue, 17 Jun 2003 01:14:09 -0300
From:    Rhonda MacKenzie <scarlett@a.......>
Subject: Hello All

Okay, my turn :)

I'm Rhonda and I am a 29 year old former club DJ. I am an operator/producer
at 2 local radio stations (1 is a rock station, the other is country) and
I'll soon be an on-air personality too. Maybe being involved in radio
partially explains my LaCroix attraction LOL. I live in _______, Nova
Scotia, Canada. I have a BACS with a concentration in communication and
completed a Theatre Arts Program at a local college. I'm also into singing
and photography.

I started watching FK on Crimetime After Primetime and I had previously
seen the Night Knight movie. I have absolutely no clue when I joined the
list. I haven't been fortunate enough to attend  a LCA or Gerthering, but
I've been lucky enough to meet Nigel Bennett and Susan Garrett at a Sci-Fi
Convention a few years ago in Halifax. There were prob a few other
listmembers there too that I didn't get a chance to meet.

There's my exciting little bio.


Date:    Mon, 16 Jun 2003 11:53:05 -0400
From:    maja ha <majalady@m.......>
Subject: Re: Caddy spotting

Actually it probably wouldn't cost much, considering how Monster Garage does
it's book keeping! Put the project on air and get a $3,000 budget and
 $15,000 in "Freebies"!
----- Original Message -----
 I think he'd simply have someone build him a new 62 Caddy, right from
> scratch! He can afford it!
Next on Monster Garage!
Jesse James builds a Cool Custom Canadian Vampire Cruiser!!!


Date:    Mon, 16 Jun 2003 22:18:50 -0400
From:    maja ha <majalady@m.......>
Subject: Re: hello all

Okay coming out of lurkdom to say 'ello also,

I'm 32 and live in Northwestern Pennsylvania.
I have a hubby and 2 sons, ages 3 & 5.

I watched Forever Knight from when it first aired to when it was cancelled
but didn't get involved online until just spring 2002. I did make it to
LCA last year, very cool!



Date:    Tue, 17 Jun 2003 07:38:21 -0400
From:    Tim Phillips <Timp@d.......>
Subject: Re: Caddy spotting

> Actually it probably wouldn't cost much, considering how Monster Garage does
> it's book keeping!
> Put the project on air and get a $3,000 budget and  $15,000 in
        Plus whatever Screed can "acquire" at the Toronoto "flea-market".


     Tim Phillips
     Systems Developer II
     "Strength and Honor"  - "The Spaniard"


Date:    Tue, 17 Jun 2003 06:47:32 -0700
From:    Victor Roscetti <dragonslair_08060@y......>
Subject: New FK Site Addresses

Hi Everybody!

   I just wanted to let the group know that I have a
new address for Dragon's Lair Studios. We're the folks
who create Forever Knight Audio Dramas and Parodies. I
had to retire the www.dragonsroar.com domain name and
conserve company finances. Our NEW address is :
  Please update your Bookmarks and Favorites!

Also please visit LaCroix's Whispers in the Dark, you
will be glad you did! Turn up your speakers, the
Nightcrawler awaits your visit.

       Thanks McLisa !  -  Vic


Date:    Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:04:26 -0600
From:    Becky <beckp@i.......>
Subject: Re: Hello, All


Delurking momentarily.  I'm 38.  I live way out west,  real sagebrush and
tumbleweeds.  No significant other.  I am slave to one siamese cat, two
dogs, one budgie and ten guinea pigs.

I discovered Forever Knight only a year ago when SciFi began showing it
again.  I had seen the movie Nick Knight several times and loved the

Third season I spotted this guy with long, wavy, dark hair.  I don't know
why, but I love long, wavy, dark hair.  I am a dedicated Vaquera with
Cousinly tendincies.  LOL.

Becky  aka  Lightfoot
Don't cry because it is over, smile because it happened.


Date:    Tue, 17 Jun 2003 11:23:14 EDT
From:    Jeannie Ecklund <Gersknightlady@a.......>
Subject: Re: Hello, All

Hi, Im 48 soon to be 49.  I live alone and have two wonderful Chihuahuas.
Rosie and Nicki (named after my favorite Vampire of course) She has a wonderful
stuffed dog she seldom let out of ehr sight, (a gift from Nightangel  a fellow
Fk fan friend) I call it Knight.  So I have Nicki Knight :)=.  I have been a
fan about 4 years.  I knew about FK but hadn't watch more than a couple shows
in its original late night run.  I rediscovered it on Scifi seeing bits of it
before my favorite Dark Shadows.  I fell in love with it and the rest is
history.  I write fiction.  Originally it started with Star Trek which I have
been a fan of since 1st original season.  Now I write mostly FK.  I have enjoyed
it so much and have met wonderful friends, several which will be life time
friends.  I traveled to Stratford last year and met Ger and saw My Fair Lady
 I went on the FK tour with Marg, Barbara, and Diane.  It was a day I'll long
remember.(Thanks again Marg.) I really enjoy the first Nick Knight movie but
did not see it till after seeing the series.  I am a Knightie, Natpacker,
DarkKnightie, and really enjoy LC.  He's really fun to write.

Forever a Knightie


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