FORKNI-L

FORKNI-L Digest - 16 Apr 2003 to 17 Apr 2003 (#2003-113)

Thu, 17 Apr 2003

There are 24 messages totalling 634 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. 4/14
  2. temps
  3. cold vamps (9)
  4. There's just no accounting (4)
  5. Today's Birthday:  April 17
  6. bio site
  7. "Tracy" doll (2)
  8. blood supply for Raven (was: temps) (3)
  9. Flowers (2)

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Date:    Wed, 16 Apr 2003 17:51:37 -0700
From:    Megan Hull <mistrydder@Y.......>
Subject: Re: 4/14

Speaking of taxes, wasn't there a fic where either LaCroix or Janette gets mad
at their accountant and eats them?                    -Megan


"Eternal nights too short,
How quickly melt away,
With all the love we shared once,
Forever in a Day."

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Date:    Thu, 17 Apr 2003 10:55:04 +0800
From:    Elliza Rahim <relliza@h.......>
Subject: Re: temps

Knight Ranger wrote:Who protected them from the wolves, etc during the
days when the vampires slept?

Good question. It never came up during the episode. BTW - the other
predatory creatures in that episode included communist party officials who
were interested in squeezing $$ out of the townsfolk.

Fanfic ideas, anyone? (Esp one that involves LC, Janette and Nick?)

Ell

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Date:    Wed, 16 Apr 2003 22:31:41 -0500
From:    DPHEIL <dpheil@A.......>
Subject: cold vamps

> That reminds me of an Outer Limits episode I once watched. A town somewhere
> in Siberia where the townsfolk had struck a deal with vampires. The vampires
> would protect the town from wolves and other predators during the 24
> hour-nights while the townsfolk guarded the hibernating vamps during the
> 24hour-days

Do you remember the name of the episode?
Was it the 60s verson or the modern one???

I'm looken for more vampires

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Date:    Wed, 16 Apr 2003 23:46:51 -0500
From:    Sami Swan Thompson <tsigili@E.......>
Subject: Re: There's just no accounting

Megan wrote:
> Speaking of taxes, wasn't there a fic where either
> LaCroix or Janette gets mad at their accountant
> and eats them?

Totally justifiable.
Heck, one look at MY finances, and any accountant
would beg for death.

Imagine the scene ...

"Listen, mister, I'm supporting 23 cats and 1 big
Rottweiler, and that's how many exemptions I want: 24!
I've earned them.  All my receipts are in that sticky
paper bag. You want 'em, you put YOUR hand in there.

"One cat is an emotional eater and weighs 38 pounds;
two cats are bulimic; one's epileptic, one is criminally
insane, three are deaf, five have chronic hairballs,
and four of them need special education services. The
other six have personality disorders.

"Don't even TRY to tell me that these vet bills are not
deductible. I'm not listening to lies. I pay you for
help and for good news, not negativity. The world is
full of accountants, you know."

I suppose Jeanette goes through a similar experience
with all the little vamps at The Raven; she's a rescuer, too.
{But SHE can whammy the guy into giving her a gazillion
exemptions if she wants. Harumph.}

Can you tell tax time is a little bit stressful at our house?
Arrrggghhh....


Sami


*******
Sami Swan Thompson
tsigili@e.......         SAVOR EVERY DAY!
http://www.geocities.com/samiswan/index.html
Share the Magic:  http://www.gwdfc.org
MEET THE NEW VAMP IN TOWN:   http://www.zrem.com

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Date:    Thu, 17 Apr 2003 00:55:21 -0400
From:    Marg <mytoronto@R.......>
Subject: Re: There's just no accounting

Sami Swan Thompson wrote:

> "Listen, mister, I'm supporting 23 cats and 1 big
> Rottweiler, and that's how many exemptions I want: 24!
> "One cat is an emotional eater and weighs 38 pounds;
> two cats are bulimic; one's epileptic, one is criminally

<snip>

So what you are saying, Sami, is that the Rottie is the only normal
being in your household? Just as I suspected. <running and ducking for
cover> <bg>

--
Marg   mytoronto@r.......
In Toronto, the City of the Knight
Where the tax filing deadline is not until midnight April 30.

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Date:    Thu, 17 Apr 2003 13:25:45 +0800
From:    Elliza Rahim <relliza@h.......>
Subject: Re: cold vamps

DHEIL wrote:

Do you remember the name of the (Outer Limits) episode?
>Was it the 60s verson or the modern one???
>>I'm looken for more vampires

Sorry, don't remember the episode name - it was a modern ep. I really wish I
had that lovely vampiric total recall at this point.

Yours forgetfully (but not in bliss)
Ell


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Date:    Thu, 17 Apr 2003 06:59:46 -0700
From:    Cheryl <doughboy2@c.......>
Subject: Re: cold vamps

I do remember that episode, but scifi doesn't have the old series listed
yet.  That can tell you.  I'll keep looking, but was a great episode.  Stay
safe.
Cheryl Pillsbury
Doughboy2@c.......

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Date:    Thu, 17 Apr 2003 06:11:36 -0500
From:    eowyn3@j.......
Subject: Today's Birthday:  April 17

Hi Y'all!

Today is the birthday of:       Kim             Kimber68714@a.......

You can send birthday greetings to Kim at the above e-mail address.
Please NOT to the list!

People who share birthdays on this date include:
Don Kirshner, Music Producer
Samuel P. Chase, Judge/Jurist, Supreme Court Justice
 J. P. Morgan, Financier
Sir Vincent Brian Wigglesworth, Scientist
Thornton Wilder, Dramatist/Playwright

Significant events on this date:
1492, a contract was signed by Christopher Columbus and a representative
of Spain's King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella, giving Columbus a
commission to seek a westward ocean passage to Asia.
1629, Horses were first imported into the colonies by the Massachusetts
Bay Colony.
1964, the Mustang, Ford's legandary automobile, was unveiled to the
public as a mid-model-year entry.
1986, IBM produces first megabit-chip.

I hope you have a very Happy Birthday, Kim!

If you would like to be added to the birthday announcements, please send
your name, birthdate (no year needed) and e-mail address to me,
privately, eowyn3@j....... and I'll be glad to add you.

Terri
eowyn3@j......., eowyn@w.......
GWDFC, G-IV & V Attendee, Knighties Listowner, TKD, FK X-Stitcher,
Proud Survivor of Fk-fic  Wars 8-11, Keeper of the FK Birthday List
She can be taught!  But only in little bytes!

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Date:    Thu, 17 Apr 2003 09:54:45 -0500
From:    DPHEIL <dpheil@A.......>
Subject: bio site

I was surfing the net
 . .   OK I was tring to find that Outer Limits episode

But I found this site

http://www.fvza.org/science2.html

It explains the changes that happen when
someone is brought over

THere's a link that compares vampires to zombies

its kinda weird . . . . I wish it went into more depth

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Date:    Thu, 17 Apr 2003 08:17:32 -0700
From:    Amanda Berendt <debrabant_foundation@Y.......>
Subject: Re: cold vamps

--- DPHEIL <dpheil@A.......> wrote:
> I was surfing the net
>  . .   OK I was tring to find that Outer Limits episode
>

I went to several sites and read all of the episode synopsies and
found nothing that resembles what people describe.  Is it definitely
an Outer Limits episode?

To keep this kind of on topic... as I was scrolling through, I
noticed a heck of a lot of familiar names from FK.  It's true, there
are only 47 actors in Canada.

-Amanda

=====
"Give me your soul and your heart will take flight
Forevermore in the night, Forever MINE in the night"
http://operacellar.tripod.com/phantomslair.html

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Date:    Thu, 17 Apr 2003 08:23:39 -0700
From:    Amanda Berendt <debrabant_foundation@Y.......>
Subject: "Tracy" doll

Hi-
I was a Toys R Us the other day looking for roller skates and of
course I have to go look at the action figures.
Anyhoo, they had Andomeda dolls.  I have only seen the show once or
twice, but I know Lisa Ryder was in it.
They had her doll.  It was $19.99, so I didn't get it. (I am not a
huge fan of hers).  I just thought, hey get her some barbie clothes -
like jeans and blouse and she can be Tracy.  And that could go with
whomever had made the Nick dolls. :)
Weird, I know... but this is coming from someone who went to
"Build-a-Bear" and made a Nick-bear.  (His name is officially
Nicholas B. Knight and he is dressed in DK fashion - jeans, white
turtleneck, but they didn't have a black jacket)  Now I have to make
a LC-bear.

-Amanda

=====
"Give me your soul and your heart will take flight
Forevermore in the night, Forever MINE in the night"
http://operacellar.tripod.com/phantomslair.html

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Date:    Thu, 17 Apr 2003 09:25:54 -0600
From:    Angela Gottfred <agottfre@t.......>
Subject: Re: blood supply for Raven (was: temps)

> While I'm at it, I wonder....just how *did* LC get
> that big supply of bottled blood in the Raven? I mean,
> how would they go about collecting it?

"Ah, Mr. Schanke. So good to see you again. No, don't fight it, just go
into that back room, lie down and close your eyes. Do exactly as you are
told."

30 minutes later:

"I do hope you enjoyed the juice & cookies, Mr. Schanke. You will now
forget everything that happened after you entered the Raven, except for
the urge to return to this room in exactly 60 days."

Your very humble & most obedient servant,
Ligeia

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Date:    Thu, 17 Apr 2003 11:40:06 EDT
From:    Robin Tidwell <Robinchristine79@a.......>
Subject: Re: "Tracy" doll

Thanks! I like Andromeda very much, and Lisa's character on there. (Actually
a Tracy doll is not a bad idea...;)  )

Robin
robinchristine79@a.......

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Date:    Thu, 17 Apr 2003 11:45:12 EDT
From:    Robin Tidwell <Robinchristine79@a.......>
Subject: Flowers

Does anyone out there know the significance of Calla Lillies? You know, like
red roses mean love, yellow mean friendship, that kind of thing? Do colors of
Calla Lillies have a meaning? It's ok to mail me offlist about this, I need
it for a funeral arrangement.

Robin
robinchristine79@a.......

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Date:    Thu, 17 Apr 2003 12:11:32 EDT
From:    Michele Canterbury <Mobody@a.......>
Subject: Re: cold vamps

In a message dated 4/17/03 11:20:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
debrabant_foundation@Y....... writes:

> I went to several sites and read all of the episode synopsies and
> found nothing that resembles what people describe.  Is it definitely
> an Outer Limits episode?

I have also seen this episode and I think it might have been from either the
Mid '80's Twilight Zone remake or perhaps Amazing Stories.

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Date:    Thu, 17 Apr 2003 12:21:49 EDT
From:    Michele Canterbury <Mobody@a.......>
Subject: Re: cold vamps

In a message dated 4/17/03 12:12:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Mobody@a.......
writes:

> I have also seen this episode and I think it might have been from either the
> Mid '80's Twilight Zone remake

OK, its definately a TZ episode.

Red Snow
Written by: Michael Cassutt
Directed by: Jeannot Szwarc
Music by: Elliot Kaplan
Starring: George Dzundza; Victoria Tennant
Summary: A disillusioned KGB Colonel discovers that dissidents sent to an
Arctic village in the Gulag have become vampires. He eventually chooses to
become a vampire himself to fight the system from within.

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Date:    Thu, 17 Apr 2003 09:28:00 -0700
From:    Amanda Berendt <debrabant_foundation@Y.......>
Subject: Re: cold vamps

> I have also seen this episode and I think it might have been from
> either the Mid '80's Twilight Zone remake

Hi everyone....
I found this episode that we were talking about.
It is Twilight Zone and the title is "Red Snow
Here's what tvtome had:

RED SNOW
gs: George Dzundza (Colonel Ilyanov) Victoria Tennant (Valentina)

A KGB investigator, a reluctant Communist supporter, is sent to
Siberia to investigate the deaths of Communist party officials. He
discovers that Stalin's exiles are alive and well. He also discovers
dead people drained of blood. In the cold Siberian six-month nights
the investigator realizes that the whole village is either vampires,
or humans that assist them. They cannot let him go, but he offers
them a counterdeal. When next we see him he is a vampire himself, and
preparing to bring other Communist officials over.


b: 21-Mar-1986 w: Michael Cassutt d: Jeannot Szwarc

Kinda makes me think a little of the FK episode "Strings"

-Amanda


=====
"Give me your soul and your heart will take flight
Forevermore in the night, Forever MINE in the night"
http://operacellar.tripod.com/phantomslair.html

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Date:    Thu, 17 Apr 2003 11:45:52 -0500
From:    DPHEIL <dpheil@A.......>
Subject: Re: cold vamps

> When next we see him he is a vampire himself, and
> preparing to bring other Communist officials over

Did they mean to bring them over or "bring them over"???

> Kinda makes me think a little of the FK episode "Strings"

Was that the ep with the "Healer" in russia who
turned out to be a crazy vampire
And I think they killed him in the end

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Date:    Thu, 17 Apr 2003 09:57:50 -0700
From:    Amanda Berendt <debrabant_foundation@Y.......>
Subject: Re: cold vamps

> Was that the ep with the "Healer" in russia who turned out to be a
>crazy vampire And I think they killed him in the end

Yes, the flashbacks in Strings, Nick was with the Russian royal
family and the 'healer' was Rasputin who was a vampire.

-Amanda

=====
"Give me your soul and your heart will take flight
Forevermore in the night, Forever MINE in the night"
http://operacellar.tripod.com/phantomslair.html

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Date:    Thu, 17 Apr 2003 13:24:10 -0400
From:    clarkcindy <clarkcindy@m.......>
Subject: Re: There's just no accounting

Megan wrote:
> Speaking of taxes, wasn't there a fic where either> LaCroix or Janette
gets mad at their accountant> and eats them?

I don't know whether this is the story or not, and I cannot remember the
author since this zine is still on loan to a co-worker.  Anyway, there was a
big charity zine anthology put out by someone on the list that had a story
entitled "The Tax Man Cometh" about Nick and LC dealing with the Canadian
Revenue Service.

Cindy

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Date:    Thu, 17 Apr 2003 10:33:37 -0700
From:    Megan Hull <mistrydder@Y.......>
Subject: Re: blood supply for Raven (was: temps)

> While I'm at it, I wonder....just how *did* LC get
> that big supply of bottled blood in the Raven? I mean,
> how would they go about collecting it?
I'm not sure if I read this in a fanfic or came up with it myself (if I did, it
was so long ago I don't remember) but it sticks in my mind that there is a lot
of blood thrown away by bloodbanks and hospitals every day because it's
contaminated, infected, or just plain expires (that's why they never have enough
blood-- it doesn't keep very long).  So an enterprising vampire could pick it
up, bottle it (preserve it in some way?) and sell it.  Considering the strict
standards that hospitals have to keep, even the expired blood wouldn't be very
far gone, and disease doesn't seem to bother our favorite vamps. Speaking of
blood sources, it occured to me recently... what would happen if a vampire got
ahold of some diabetic's blood?  Say, something with a glucose (sugar) level of
600 or so?  Anyone wanna see a hyper vamp? <G>                       -Megan

"Eternal nights too short,
How quickly melt away,
With all the love we shared once,
Forever in a Day."


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Date:    Thu, 17 Apr 2003 13:59:45 EDT
From:    KaAG@a.......
Subject: Re: blood supply for Raven (was: temps)

Speaking of blood sources, it occured to me recently... what would happen if
a vampire got ahold of some diabetic's blood?  Say, something with a glucose
(sugar) level of 600 or so?  Anyone wanna see a hyper vamp? <G>

Or for that matter, a blood alcohol of oh, say .2--- think that would make
Nick a little tipsy?

Karen

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Date:    Thu, 17 Apr 2003 19:07:26 +0000
From:    Nancy Kaminski <nancykam@A.......>
Subject: Re: There's just no accounting

Cindy wrote:

> I don't know whether this is the story or not, and I cannot remember the
> author since this zine is still on loan to a co-worker.  Anyway, there was a
> big charity zine anthology put out by someone on the list that had a story
> entitled "The Tax Man Cometh" about Nick and LC dealing with the Canadian
> Revenue Service.

This is the story by Mei Wa Kwong that appeared in the charity zine, "A Taste
of Forever," put out by myself, Kathy Whelton, and Cindy Ingram.

(It is still possible to get a copy of ToF, although the quality of the
paper/binding won't be as quite as high as it was on first issue---I can print
out a copy on the laser jet at work, have it bound at Kinko's, and send it out.
Also, I can offer a PDF version on CD for a lesser cost. The printed version is
$18 and the PDF version is $10 (proceeds to go to Children's Hospital). Contact
me off-list if you're interested--this is a very nice zine, if I say so myself!)

Nancy Kaminski
--
nancykam@a.......
www.nancykam.com

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Date:    Thu, 17 Apr 2003 15:22:09 -0400
From:    Emily Lacey <laceye@a.......>
Subject: Re: Flowers

>Does anyone out there know the significance of Calla Lillies?

I looked up the meaning of flowers when I read Bonnie Rutledge's
Clare series. (Of which I'd like to see more.) According to whatever
site I found Calla Lillies mean Magnificent Beauty.

>It's ok to mail me offlist about this, I need
>it for a funeral arrangement.

I thought others might be interested. I have a list of bunches of
flowers combined from several web sites that I'll send to anyone who
asks.
If it's a "Western" (vs. Eastern Orthodox) funeral, I'd go with
white. That seems to be a pretty neutral flower, and I don't think
lilies come in black...

--
Emily Lacey
laceye@a.......

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