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FORKNI-L Digest - 12 Apr 2003 to 13 Apr 2003 (#2003-109)
Sun, 13 Apr 2003
There are 15 messages totalling 562 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. re black Harbour
2. GWD in HYPERCUBE (contains SPOILERS) - additional questions (2)
3. GWD in HYPERCUBE (contains SPOILERS) - additional questions/comments
4. dressed vs undressed (was GWD in HYPERCUBE...) (9)
5. Trophy Girl Question
6. Admin: Forkni-l Rules -- READ RULE 2
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Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 19:36:06 -0400
From: Debbie Clarke <dittany121@h.......>
Subject: re black Harbour
I was checking the schedule on Showcase for another program and saw
Black Harbour had returned . Of course it returned at 9:00 EST the
exact same time as Forever Knight but I thought I would mention it just
the same.
Debbie Clarke
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Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 16:47:37 -0700
From: FKMel <sgt_buck_frobisher@y......>
Subject: Re: GWD in HYPERCUBE (contains SPOILERS) - additional questions
--- Knight Ranger <knightranger1228@y......> wrote:
> SPOILERS BELOW
>
>
> SPOILERS BELOW
>
>
> This isn't really about the questions, just a couple
comments. I gotta say I loved the scene where he
stripped to his undies. Especially since Nick Knight
rarely even took his jacket off...Father Figure and
Killer Instinct being the exceptions. He does have a
nice pair of arms on him, doesn't he? <ggl>
Re the vampire comment....I *did* half expect him to
go after someone's neck sooner or later. And when he
snapped toward the end, it was easy to expect to see
fangs and glowing eyes in there somewhere.<g>
Now, if I could just get rid of the disturbing fic
ideas....can't you just see Nick, LaCroix, Janette
Nat, Schanke/Tracy, a captain of your choice, and
whichever other characters you want waking up in the
hypercube? Hm....I could work it in as a wierd dream
of Nick's or something. Or maybe I should just leave
that one alone. I haven't decided yet LOL.
Mel, whose mind is a strange place sometimes
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fan/Tracker Fan/Angel Fan/Port Charles Fan
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Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 17:19:14 -0700
From: Knight Ranger <knightranger1228@y......>
Subject: Re: GWD in HYPERCUBE (contains SPOILERS) - additional
questions/comments
FKMel <sgt_buck_frobisher@y......> wrote:
SPOILERS BELOW
SPOILERS BELOW
< I gotta say I loved the scene where he stripped to
his undies. Especially since Nick Knight rarely even
took his jacket off... >
I agree. This is the most skin we've seen since GHOST
MOM. Although he was in his shorts once in BLACK
HARBOUR.
< I *did* half expect him to go after someone's neck
sooner or later. And when he snapped toward the end,
it was easy to expect to see fangs and glowing eyes in
there somewhere.>
I didn't get this at all. I saw absolutely no vampire
connection, except for the "I'm hungry" line.
< ...can't you just see Nick, LaCroix, Janette, Nat,
Schanke/Tracy, a captain of your choice,... waking up
in the hypercube? Hm....I could work it in as a wierd
dream of Nick's or something.>
I think it would be a cool dream. And it should have
all 3 captains and Schanke and Tracy. Everyone gets
to meet each other. And the humans find out about
vampires. Since its only a dream, it won't matter.
< Or maybe I should just leave that one alone. I
haven't decided yet >
I say go for it.
Knight Ranger
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Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 22:29:33 -0400
From: Emily Lacey <laceye@A.......>
Subject: dressed vs undressed (was GWD in HYPERCUBE...)
>I gotta say I loved the scene where he
>stripped to his undies. Especially since Nick Knight
>rarely even took his jacket off...Father Figure and
>Killer Instinct being the exceptions.
I don't remember the name of the episode, but there was the one where
he was posing behind a drape with a young girl who was suicidal, and
poisoned herself at the end. I got the impression that he was in his
nothing-at-alls, but we didn't see it (as I doubt it would have
gotten past the censors in the US--however nudity doesn't seem to be
a problem in other countries (thinking of the Stargate SG1 DVD with
the parts left in that didn't make it on broadcast TV)). After he
stepped out from behind the drape he pulled on a robe...
--
Emily Lacey
laceye@a.......
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Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 19:54:14 -0700
From: FKMel <sgt_buck_frobisher@y......>
Subject: Re: dressed vs undressed (was GWD in HYPERCUBE...)
there was the one where
> he was posing behind a drape with a young girl who
> was suicidal, and poisoned herself at the end.
*smack* How did I forget Dead Issue?
I got the impression that he was in his
nothing-at-alls, but we didn't see it (as I doubt it
would have gotten past the censors in the US. After he
stepped out from behind the drape he pulled on a
robe...
Hm....anyone got a Canadian or European version who
can tell us if there was any more visible? I have seen
that kind of editing in at least one Canadian movie I
saw on a US cable channel.
Mel, who thinks the hypercube dream might remind Nick
of his search....endless maze, constant traps,
seemingly no escape....Maybe I just might go for it at
sometime in the future.
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fan/Tracker Fan/Angel Fan/Port Charles Fan
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Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 22:56:45 EDT
From: Libratsie@a.......
Subject: Re: dressed vs undressed (was GWD in HYPERCUBE...)
I know one thing that can be said about ALL the Forever Knight characters...
They were definitely naked under their clothes. I'm quite sure there's even
some case of being nekkid, especially in Screed's and Natalie's cases.
*looks around to make sure McLisa doesn't have a rolled up newspaper handy
for a round o' Thwamp! the Ratpacker*
--Libs
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Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 19:57:45 -0700
From: FKMel <sgt_buck_frobisher@y......>
Subject: Trophy Girl Question
In the end of this ep, why does Nick tell Nat that
Tracy saved his life? IIRC, the guy was going to whack
him with a bottle, right? He'd have gotten knocked
out, and Tracy probably would have been killed, but
it's not like there were any wooden stakes involved.
And it was Nat he was talking to, not someone who
didn't know his secret...so why'd he say it? Just in
case anyone else in range overheard the conversation?
Mel
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fan/Tracker Fan/Angel Fan/Port Charles Fan
Spotted on bumper sticker: Bad Cop! No Donut
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Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 22:51:18 -0500
From: Nancy Kaminski <nancykam@A.......>
Subject: Re: dressed vs undressed (was GWD in HYPERCUBE...)
> FKMel wrote:
> Hm....anyone got a Canadian or European version who
> can tell us if there was any more visible? I have seen
> that kind of editing in at least one Canadian movie I
> saw on a US cable channel.
There is no additional nudity in the Canadian version. There are no
special European versions of FK.
If I recall correctly, the only difference in the nudity factors was
in DK---Nick's first vampire snack, the comatose girl, was presented
bare-breasted to him for a European version. At least, that's what
I've heard. I've never seen it, if indeed that version exists.
Nancy Kaminski
nancykam@a.......
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Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 00:16:05 -0400
From: Emily Lacey <laceye@A.......>
Subject: Re: dressed vs undressed (was GWD in HYPERCUBE...)
>They were definitely naked under their clothes. I'm quite sure there's even
>some case of being nekkid, especially in Screed's and Natalie's cases.
Um. Right. Someone once told me in public speaking that it will help
control your nervousness if you imagine everyone in their
nothing-at-alls.
I personally have a problem thinking of the actors/esses in their
altogether in front of the cameras. There must be tons of people
wandering around, and there they are for literally all the world to
see. And this would involve time-as I am sure that scenes are not
perfect the first time through. However, I have had my eyes opened
(to put it badly) after attending Miss Saigon and then this Stargate
SG1 DVD. It seems that people don't mind it at all.
--
Emily Lacey
laceye@a.......
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Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 07:24:32 +0200
From: Doris=20Weiss?= <dorisweiss_2000@y......>
Subject: Re: dressed vs undressed (was GWD in HYPERCUBE...)
--- Nancy Kaminski :Nick's first vampire snack, the
comatose girl, was presented bare-breasted to him for
a European version. At least, that's what I've never
seen it, if indeed that version exists.
It doesn't exist. We got the Canadian version of all
eps. The girl is not barebreasted but it might be that
we get to see a little more cleavage (I don't know the
cut US version). Sorry to blow that little bubble, but
then I wouldn't be interested in the girl anyway,
naked or not, I'd rather have more of that see-thru
nightie stuff <g>
Luc
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Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 04:19:57 EDT
From: Michele Canterbury <Mobody@a.......>
Subject: Re: GWD in HYPERCUBE (contains SPOILERS) - additional questions
In a message dated 4/12/2003 7:48:38 PM Eastern Standard Time,
sgt_buck_frobisher@y...... writes:
> I gotta say I loved the scene where he
> stripped to his undies.
Me too.. but the undies were barely implied, you never really saw him "drop
trou".
Especially since Nick Knight > rarely even took his jacket off...Father Figure
> and
> Killer Instinct being the exceptions. He does have a
> nice pair of arms on him, doesn't he? <ggl>
>
Yes he does, but the real question is, does he have a nice chest? I would
really like to know. But then again, maybe the mystery is more fun.
Michele
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Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 06:04:28 -0700
From: Laurie of the Isles <laudon1228@y......>
Subject: Re: dressed vs undressed (was GWD in HYPERCUBE...)
--- Nancy Kaminski <nancykam@A.......> wrote:
> If I recall correctly, the only difference in the
> nudity factors was in DK---Nick's first vampire snack,
> the comatose girl, was presented bare-breasted to him
> for a European version.
I thought I recalled hearing there was more nudity in the
Candian version of Dance By The Light Of The Moon, the
one with Nick's strategically placed detective's
shield.
Laurie of the Isles
Laudon1228@y......
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Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 10:16:41 -0400
From: Mary Combs <mcombs@e......>
Subject: Re: dressed vs undressed (was GWD in HYPERCUBE...)
Luc replied to Nancy
> It doesn't exist. We got the Canadian version
> of all eps.
Nancy was referring to the European version, not the Canadian. You can
actually see in the closeups of Nick's feeding that her bodice is
conspicuously absent.
Ger, half blinded by the contact lenses and poised over the topless actress
is supposed to have asked in frustrated amusement, "Where do I bite her?"
Mary
mcombs@e......
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Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 16:32:06 +0200
From: Doris=20Weiss?= <dorisweiss_2000@y......>
Subject: Re: dressed vs undressed (was GWD in HYPERCUBE...)
--- Mary Combs :
> Nancy was referring to the European version, not the
> Canadian.
I just reviewed my German version of Dark Knight (and
I'd consider that a 'European Version') and I admit
that there is more skin there but no real nakedness.
It's just difficult to see and I was practically
crawling into the screen.
BTW: In DbtLotM Nick's badge is also poised over
Anne's upper body.
Luc
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Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 13:24:31 -0500
From: mclisa <mclisa@M.......>
Subject: Admin: Forkni-l Rules -- READ RULE 2
That's the one that states that only 4 lines can be quoted from the previous
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