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FORKNI-L Digest - 25 Mar 2003 to 26 Mar 2003 (#2003-90)

Wed, 26 Mar 2003

There are 22 messages totalling 583 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Nick Knight movie comments was Re: Hello? (11)
  2. I had an FK moment the other day.... (4)
  3. Lightbulb list and Sig question
  4. Coat of Arms
  5. What makes a good TV show good
  6. Having a FK moment (2)
  7. Hypercube
  8. old

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Date:    Tue, 25 Mar 2003 17:18:03 EST
From:    MRKKaye@a.......
Subject: Re: Nick Knight movie comments was Re: Hello?

In a message dated 3/25/2003 1:23:05 PM Eastern Standard Time,
mistrydder@y....... writes:


> 'He's like a father or a brother.'  End of quote.
>  But if that kind of relationship was ever even considered by the makers of
> the show, it was NEVER presented in an obvious fashion.
>
Check out the episode 'Father Figure'

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Date:    Tue, 25 Mar 2003 15:11:46 -0800
From:    Dianne Bugg <lady_lacroix@y.......>
Subject: Re: Nick Knight movie comments was Re: Hello?

Perhaps I'm mistaken but it seems to me that there was
an interview with Ger in which he stated that they
occasionally added that twist in their performances.
Not that it was obvious but they played it as if they
had been or were still lovers.  Please correct me if I
misremember, but I'm fairly sure it was said.

Dianne
>
> I'm not saying it is there, I'm saying just because
> it is NOT there does not mean it couldn't be so. I'm
> just saying even if the thought entered TPTB's
> minds, they probably would not have done it at that
> point in history.
>
> Libs

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Date:    Tue, 25 Mar 2003 16:26:05 -0700
From:    Micki <Mickilyn@i.......>
Subject: I had an FK moment the other day....

 Hi all.

Delurking briefly to tell you what I saw the other day & hope it gives you a
big smile like it did me.

I am an avid reader, reading probably 150 - 200 books a yr. I found myself
on my lunch break at work having finished one book on my way to work (I read
on the bus) & without a new one to start, so I had to go pick up another.  I
figured I was a bit of a true crime mood, and was checking that section.

The book I decided on is one that looks at how forensic science works.  But
it was glancing at the index to the chapters that confirmed my choice of
books.

Chapter 10 is titled "EVIDENCE FROM THE CORONER" with the two subheadings
within it being "Blood Suckers loose in Newport Beach" & "How do you stomach
this job?"

Ok, granted it's not in Toronto....  But it still made me think about FK &
Natalie, with the 2nd subheading bringing to mind the scene from a 3rd
season ep where Tracy is helping Nat with an autopsy & needing oxygen  (I
have no memory for ep titles, sorry)

But that chapter title & it's subheadings brightened my day, so I hope it
does for you too.  :)

Hugs, and crawling back into lurkerdom....
  -Micki

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Date:    Tue, 25 Mar 2003 15:25:42 -0800
From:    FKMel <sgt_buck_frobisher@y.......>
Subject: Lightbulb list and Sig question

Who was it who wanted the list of lightbulb jokes?
Mail me offlist and let me know and I'll get it out to
you.

Also, who came up with the line about 'do not meddle
in the affairs of vampires for you are O positive and
fit nicely in Nick's trunk?' I'd like to ask if it's
okay to use it as a sig line. I'd have asked offlist,
but I don't recall who posted it.

Hasta la bye bye
Mel

=====
"I am what I am and I don't think Betty Ford takes vampires"-Nick Knight
FK:NickNatPacker, Knight of the Cross /Highlander: Duncan Flag-Waver/Due South
fan/Tracker Fan/Angel Fan/Port Charles Fan

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Date:    Tue, 25 Mar 2003 15:42:33 -0800
From:    Laurie of the Isles <laudon1228@y.......>
Subject: Re: Nick Knight movie comments was Re: Hello?

--- Nancy Kaminski <nancykam@a.......> wrote:

>In FK, it seemed that the vamps were always slightly
>drunk or simply couldn't fly very straight.  I was
>always afraid they'd hit some power lines or phone
>wires. <g>

Hee hee!  We need an FK vampire version of the "George
of the Jungle" theme song.  "Nick, Nick, Nick of
Toronto..." <g>

Thanks for the chuckle, Nancy.

Laurie of the Isles
laudon1228@y.......
"And boys?  Watch the swearing."
 - Mayor Wilkins, BtVS

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Date:    Tue, 25 Mar 2003 18:46:17 -0800
From:    Paffoman <paffoman@c.......>
Subject: Re: I had an FK moment the other day....

Me, too.  I was taking my daughter to Spaulding Rehab and I saw a huge truck
labeled  "Raven"  true.
cheryl pillsbury
paffoman@c.......

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Date:    Tue, 25 Mar 2003 19:28:39 EST
From:    Jeannie Ecklund <Gersknightlady@a.......>
Subject: Re: Nick Knight movie comments was Re: Hello?

>
>  Hee hee!  We need an FK vampire version of the "George
>  of the Jungle" theme song.  "Nick, Nick, Nick of
>  Toronto..." <g>
love to see this one written out... the whole song...  Its a great idea
Nancy how about it...It would be hysterical

Jeannie

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Date:    Tue, 25 Mar 2003 16:43:04 -0800
From:    Megan Hull <mistrydder@y.......>
Subject: Re: Nick Knight movie comments was Re: Hello?

What about it?  'Father's Day' I could see being used as evidence, but not
'Father Figure'.  Unless you're seeing something I'm not.
                 -Megan

> 'He's like a father or a brother.' End of quote.
> But if that kind of relationship was ever even considered by the makers of
> the show, it was NEVER presented in an obvious fashion.
>
Check out the episode 'Father Figure'


"Eternal nights too short,
How quickly melt away,
With all the love we shared once,
Forever in a Day."

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Date:    Tue, 25 Mar 2003 19:33:49 -0800
From:    Bonnie <callalily@l.......>
Subject: Re: Coat of Arms

At 05:00 PM 3/25/03 -0500, Amanda Berendt <debrabant_foundation@y.......>
wrote:
>I was surfing the internet and a pop up ad for 'Your Family's Coat of
>Arms' came up. I clicked on it and searched for "Brabant"

I am in possession of Vachon's heraldry.  His family coat of arms is "sable
with a gold cow passant" -- passant is a term meaning an animal walking and
looking to the right hand side of the shield (the viewer's left), with three
hooves on the ground and the right foreleg raised.  The heraldic colour
(sable/black) denotes constancy.  The metal (gold) denotes generosity and
elevation of mind.  The crest is three ostrich plumes proper.

Ah, the fond memories this brings!  Sweet summer days, spent in youthful
exuberance ... a once-ardent Vaquera, a bright-shiny Knightie, a Raven, a
Cousin, and a Merc all converging on Disneyland....  We had a time!  My most
vivid memory is riding King Arthur's Carousel:  I rode the fastest horse and
named him Pepito; the Knightie rode the white stallion and called him Hero;
and the Merc rode the inside and called her mount ... Charger!  Ah, good times!

Bonnie
once ardent Vaquera, now Cousinly-Receptionist (in-training)
callalily@l.......
_______________________

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Date:    Tue, 25 Mar 2003 22:35:23 -0600
From:    Nancy Kaminski <nancykam@a.......>
Subject: Re: Nick Knight movie comments was Re: Hello?

Dianne wrote:

> an interview with Ger in which he stated that they
> occasionally added that twist in their performances.
> Not that it was obvious but they played it as if they
> had been or were still lovers.  Please correct me if I

Yes, Dianne, you're right. I know Nigel added stuff, and wanted to go
further than he did. For instance, there's one scene when he wanted to
lick "blood" off Ger's face, but was told not to. Instead, he swiped
it off with a finger and then licked his finger. Very suggestive.

Nancy Kaminski
nancykam@a.......

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Date:    Tue, 25 Mar 2003 22:45:30 -0600
From:    Nancy Kaminski <nancykam@a.......>
Subject: Re: Nick Knight movie comments was Re: Hello?

> Laurie of the Isles wrote:

> Hee hee!  We need an FK vampire version of the "George
> of the Jungle" theme song.  "Nick, Nick, Nick of
> Toronto..." <g>
>
> Thanks for the chuckle, Nancy.

<g> Now there's an ear worm to stick in my brain! Thanks, Laurie!

And this brings to mind the early fanfic story that has Janette
leaving Nick's loft near dawn, intending to fly to get home, and then
regret that she hadn't filed a flight plan and so would have to drive
instead. She tells Natalie that there are now so many vampires in
Toronto they need to file flight plans ahead of time so there's no
aerial congestion. (It's April Fool's day, and she's yanking Nat's
chain.) Great story!

Nancy Kaminski
nancykam@a.......

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Date:    Tue, 25 Mar 2003 21:44:34 -0600
From:    "Monica T. Rodriguez" <mrodri14@u.......>
Subject: Re: Nick Knight movie comments was Re: Hello?

At 05:00 PM 25-03-03 Tuesday -0500, FKMel <sgt_buck_frobisher@y.......> wrote:
>The only casting I really can say I didn't like was LC. NB is just *so*
>much better in the part. He looks the part more too, I think....he's more
>physically imposing and has that distinctive deep, creepy, yet slightly
>seductive voice. And he's got the talent to
>go with it.

I couldn't resist responding: "slightly" seductive voice? I'm sorry, have
you met any Addicts? <eg> Just ask the definition of a Nunklear Meltdown.
The Voice is one of the main causes of one. <eg>

>Mel,who saw the movie *after* seeing FK, which was why I couldn't get used
>to the different actors in it.

I have to admit I haven't even tried to see it, for the very same reason. I
know, lame, but there it is.

>From:    Michele Canterbury <Mobody@a.......>
>all you really have to do is see some of the outtakes from the show to see
>where the actors heads were at ... (thinking of an alley, David
>Constantine, and GWD on his knees at his waist... hehe)  All in fun of course.
Am I right in remembering that the scene where Nick 'steals' LC's meal was
altered to remove such implications? I'm thinking of the whole honey & wine
business and that LC was originally supposed to lick some stray blood off
Nick's face. Or perhaps this was a comment by NBennett on what he would
have done?

BTW, was this scene above with GWD & Constantine an actual outtake? I just
want to be sure this wasn't something I've forgotten, or part of some fun fic.

monica
always luscious lucius lover

"In the big picture, nothing we do matters . . . and if there's no great
glorious end to all this, if nothing we do matters, then all that matters
is what we do, because that's all there is, what we do now, today." Angel

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Date:    Tue, 25 Mar 2003 21:02:29 -0800
From:    FKMel <sgt_buck_frobisher@y.......>
Subject: Re: I had an FK moment the other day....

I finally found the LaCroix water out here (heard the
store ppl say something about someone asking for it)
and got a kinda oldish FK moment I just remembered
today. Once in a while the church women's group I go
to plays bingo and I always try to get the card that
has '12' and '28' right next to each other...hasn't
been particularly lucky yet but maybe one of these
days...okay it's a little FK moment..LOL

Mel,who has an empty LC can sitting on her computer desk

=====
"I am what I am and I don't think Betty Ford takes vampires"-Nick Knight
FK:NickNatPacker, Knight of the Cross /Highlander: Duncan Flag-Waver/Due South
fan/Tracker Fan/Angel Fan/Port Charles Fan

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Date:    Tue, 25 Mar 2003 23:15:38 -0600
From:    Nancy Kaminski <nancykam@a.......>
Subject: Re: Nick Knight movie comments was Re: Hello?

> Monica T. Rodriguez wrote:

> I couldn't resist responding: "slightly" seductive voice?
> I'm sorry, have you met any Addicts? <eg> Just ask the definition of a
> Nunklear Meltdown. The Voice is one of the main causes of one. <eg>

Oh, yeah. The Voice. I have a CD of all of Lacroix's best speeches
(thanks, Vic Rosetti!) and listen to them at work just for The Voice.
Wonderful!

> 'steals' LC's meal was altered to remove such implications? I'm
> thinking of the
> whole honey & wine business and that LC was originally supposed to
> lick some stray blood off Nick's face. Or perhaps this was a comment by
> NBennett on what he would have done?

Yeah, Nigel said he wanted to lick Ger's face in that scene.

> BTW, was this scene above with GWD & Constantine an actual
> outtake? I just want to be sure this wasn't something I've forgotten, or
> part of some fun fic.

That's in the blooper reel.

Nancy Kaminski
nancykam@a.......

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Date:    Wed, 26 Mar 2003 00:15:48 EST
From:    Julia Kocich <JKocich@a.......>
Subject: What makes a good TV show good

Megan wrote:

<< But if that kind of relationship was ever even considered by the makers of
the show, it was NEVER presented in an obvious fashion. >>

I think one of the things that makes for a good TV show is not presenting the
main relationships in an obvious fashion.

There wasn't all that much "obvious" romance between Nick and Nat. Does that
mean the NNPackers are imagining things? No.

Yet what we saw on screen between Nat and LaCroix showed interesting tension,
grudging respect, and moments of "sparkage," too.

So to deny any interpretation of who-meant-what-to-whom in FK is unfairly
narrowing possibilities that the producers left open, and played around with.
(They were wise enough to leave room for Libs and her magisterial
interpretation of the central relationship in FK, by which I mean of course,
the undying love of Screed for his Natsie.)

Best,
Julia
UF list cobra

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Date:    Wed, 26 Mar 2003 08:15:24 EST
From:    Michele Canterbury <Mobody@a.......>
Subject: Re: I had an FK moment the other day....

In a message dated 3/26/03 12:29:57 AM Eastern Standard Time,
sgt_buck_frobisher@y....... writes:

> I finally found the LaCroix water out here

We have cans of it in the Coke Machine here at work, always makes me chuckle.
 BTW, does Nigel get tired of signing Cans/bottles of said same water??

Michele

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Date:    Wed, 26 Mar 2003 08:40:44 EST
From:    Robin Tidwell <Robinchristine79@a.......>
Subject: Having a FK moment

Ok, I don't really know how many of you listen to Bon Jovi, but I'm sitting
here listening to it as I read my FK mail, and the song "Someday I'll Be
Saturday Night" just came up. I swear, its like Nick in Angst Mode! I don't
know the lyrics by heart, so if your curious, check out a lyrics site, but
its like his life is crap, and he doesn't know how to go on, but he's still
got hope. Sorry for rambling!

Robin
robinchristine79@a.......

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Date:    Wed, 26 Mar 2003 09:18:55 EST
From:    Michele Canterbury <Mobody@a.......>
Subject: Re: Nick Knight movie comments was Re: Hello?

In a message dated 3/25/03 11:58:37 PM Eastern Standard Time,
mrodri14@u....... writes:

> BTW, was this scene above with GWD &Constantine an actual outtake? I just
> want to be sure this wasn't something I've forgotten, or part of some fun
> fic.
>

this can be downloaded from the blooper section of Kristin's website <A
HREF="http://www.honeybat.com/kristin2/bloopers_misc.htm">
http://www.honeybat.com/kristin2/bloopers_misc.htm</A>, but I wouldnt recommend
doing it unless you have a high speed modem.

Michele

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Date:    Wed, 26 Mar 2003 06:29:17 -0800
From:    FKMel <sgt_buck_frobisher@y.......>
Subject: Re: Having a FK moment

I had one last night but was so tired, I forgot to do
it. I was digging through a huge bunch of Port Charles
list emails, trying to get done reading and deleting
(I kinda lurk most of the time)so I could go to bed
and I came accross a reference to a character that was
already killed off called "Dr. Eve Lambert." I thought
"I didn't know Nat had family down there."

Mel, who's off to mull some fic ideas sparked by that

=====
"I am what I am and I don't think Betty Ford takes vampires"-Nick Knight
FK:NickNatPacker, Knight of the Cross /Highlander: Duncan Flag-Waver/Due South
fan/Tracker Fan/Angel Fan/Port Charles Fan

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Date:    Wed, 26 Mar 2003 09:19:44 -0800
From:    Adina Montgomery <adinaruth@e.......>
Subject: Hypercube

Sci-Fi Channel just aired a promo for Hypercube during FK.  A few glimpses
of Ger's face, no voice.  Hopefully there will be another version that
features him more.

Adina R. Montgomery
Metaphors....Be With You

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Date:    Wed, 26 Mar 2003 10:33:08 -0800
From:    portia1 <portia1@m.......>
Subject: Re: old

What about considering Nick, LC and Janette to be about the same age the
actors were when they started the show (when they "became" vampires, you
might say! "g")?

However, I don't know what those ages where....

Portia

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Date:    Wed, 26 Mar 2003 10:49:34 -0800
From:    portia1 <portia1@m.......>
Subject: Re: Nick Knight movie comments was Re: Hello?

When I first started watching and missed some of this ep, I thought they
might have known each other before.  I thought maybe they were pretending to
not know each other, like they were joking around or something.  Otherwise,
that scene seemed awfully "off," and too quickly intimate.  Later, I tried
to justify that perception when I saw the episode in full, but it didn't
wash.

Portia

>On         Tue, 25 Mar 2003 07:10:23 -0800 Amanda Berendt
<debrabant_foundation@y.......> wrote.
>>while I never took "Hold Me"  Alyce very seriously.

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