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FORKNI-L Digest - 22 Nov 2002 to 23 Nov 2002 (#2002-342)

Sat, 23 Nov 2002

There are 6 messages totalling 174 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. In the Pink (4)
  2. Fk moment
  3. FK Vamps and Pain

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Date:    Fri, 22 Nov 2002 14:44:27 -0800
From:    Jarvinia <jarvinia@g.......>
Subject: Re: In the Pink

> Arletta Asbury wrote:
> I never really thought about this in FK, or noticed it there before, but
> you're probably right. I know that in some of the Raven scenes flashing
> colored lighted were used as atmosphere for the club.

Yeah, the coloured lights (mainly pink/green/blue) were used a lot in the
Raven, and I too, took them as being for the club's atmosphere.  I didn't
really notice them much in other places, and the ones I mentioned (with the
pink and blue) just hit me because they were all similar.  I believe some
coloured lighting was used in other scenes, but wouldn't be able to say for
sure without looking for it.

> I guess that the pink/blue for dream sequences <snip> let us know that
> it's not ordinary reality. Although, with all Nick's flashbacks, shouldn't
> we have noticed this more?

That's what I was trying to get at, I think (that the colour was indicating
it wasn't taking place in reality)...except the parts in DfF, C&C and HF
weren't really flashbacks.  In fact, I believe (squeezing this out of my
fried brain) most of the flashbacks have fairly normal lighting most of the
time, including the one in C&C.  All the parts (Nick's 'guilt trip', his
dream in HF, and the parts in DfF) were in Nick's mind, not a memory.

> Anyway, pink for Nat and Jeanette-as-waitress, and blue for Nick could
> just be the standard pink for girls and blue for boys stereotype.

I didn't think about that.  I saw the blue used for Nick in HF as
contrasting it with the scene before, which was a dream.  On the pink, which
I mainly noticed in C&C, it could have been what I mentioned before, with
Nat, but it could be other things, too, as it was throughout the whole
section, I believe.  Perhaps the pink was used during that portion as yet
another thing that's just 'not right', along with some of the other things
relating to the Alice in Wonderland-ish parts...but that might be stretching
too far.

Okay...my mind has to have gone mad...two posts in as many days....
Jarvinia - who's off to lurk again....
jarvinia@g.......
http://gryffonslair.com
http://lizfk.fateback.com -  Liz, my roommate's, FKish page
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Date:    Fri, 22 Nov 2002 18:50:39 -0500
From:    allison <smilewithviolets@n.......>
Subject: Re: In the Pink

i've often noticed the subtle color changes for different moods. Check out
LK -- wow, were there sooo many subtleties that added to the ambience of the
episode.  Notice the morgue, how cold, gray and empty it is.  And the
lighting blue and cool when N&N are speaking to red when Dawkins flips out.
Also, listen for the wonderfully placed moments where there is no background
noise or music.  i.e. when they're wheeling Tracy's body away.  It lets the
moment sink right in.  i have a wicked head cold at the moment so i'm not
too coherent or i'd ramble a bit more.

Allison
Unnamed Cousin
Smilewithviolets@n.......
"So pale, so cold, so beautiful
if not clinically insane."

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Date:    Fri, 22 Nov 2002 17:58:54 -0600
From:    Eve Dutton <umdutto3@c.......>
Subject: Re: In the Pink

*snippity snip*

In both cases you also have directors (Jon Cassar directed C&C and DFF and
GWD directed HF) who seem to have a penchant for funky lighting. :) The pink
lighting for Nat idea kind of interests me though. Maybe Nick is looking at
her through rose-coloured glasses. ;)

Pass the cheese, please.

Eve.

Eve Dutton
umdutto3@c.......

"Everything is subtextual and there is no such thing as a mistake. If you
lost your house keys it means you didn't really want to go home." --Rachel
Weisz

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Date:    Sat, 23 Nov 2002 00:32:08 -0600
From:    Margie Hammet <treeleaf@i.......>
Subject: Re: Fk moment

>Date:Thu, 21 Nov 2002   From: Sunny LaCountess
>
>.... When the cashier rung the purchase in came to $12.28! ... .I think
>she was alittle surprised when I asked her: Did you say 1228? And then I
>had to explain to her that that number had a kind of significance for me.

LOL!  I can't help wondering what the rest of the world must think when
they see these people getting so excited about little things.  Summer
before last, after vacationing in Nova Scotia, my husband and I were coming
home through Toronto.  I had been hoping to catch a glimpse of the CN
Tower, and Newton managed to find it for me, through the airport
windows.  It was way in the distance and real small-looking.  I had no idea
I was going to get so excited, but I started going, "There it is! There it
is!"  Everyone around us must have thought I was nuts.

Then, a couple of days ago, watching Jeopardy, they had a category about
Towers.  I was hoping the CN Tower would be one of the answers, and it
was!  So of course I started cheering about it.  Thankfully, though, there
was no one else around but my husband, and he already knows how nuts I am!

Margie (treeleaf@i.......)

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Date:    Fri, 22 Nov 2002 14:59:41 -0800
From:    "Brooks, Julia A." <jabrooks@n.......>
Subject: Re: FK Vamps and Pain

> From: Portia Eins - Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 11:47 AM
> If the vamps can't feel pain, how much of their sense of touch
> would be lost?  Could this possibly affect their spacial sense
> and their fine motor skills (ie picking up a marble, a needle, etc.)?

I believe, says this long ago Biology major, that there are different kinds
of pain receptors; pressure, hot/cold, for example.  Perhaps, the cheesy
explanation is that they have receptors for hot/cold (eg LaCroix's "that
hurts" when Nick presses the flaming torch to his cheek) but not to trauma
(eg bullets passing through Nick without him even flinching)

Send all sorts of cheese to...
Julia B. (aka Brooksie) and Allie's Brook
forever Knightie crusader, Les Chevaliers de la Nuit
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"And a screaming fine ride [he] is, too."
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with Ginger (Woofpack) and Dusty (FoSiL)

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Date:    Sat, 23 Nov 2002 08:00:14 -0700
From:    Angela Gottfred <agottfre@t.......>
Subject: Re: In the Pink

I was watching Dead of Night last night, and noticed pink lighting for
the scene in the morgue where Natalie first encounters her grandmother.

Your very humble & most obedient servant,
Ligeia

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