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FORKNI-L Digest - 3 Apr 2002 (#2002-99)

Wed, 3 Apr 2002

There are 6 messages totalling 220 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. VCR Alert - part 2
  2. FK on DVD (4)
  3. Magic earring


Date:    Wed, 3 Apr 2002 08:36:17 -0800
From:    Cheryl Hoffman <dayabaygal@y.......>
Subject: VCR Alert - part 2

Thanks to Blackhatstation.com, here's a few more things that Nigel is in.

Model by Day                     LifetimeM       12
Sanctuary                        MoreMax         4,6,8,9,12,17,18,21,23,29
    aka: Top of the Food Chain   @Max            4,9,13,19,22,27,30

Kung Fu: TLC "Straightjacket"    TNT             16
    (with Catherine Disher & Cedric Smith)

Psi Factor                       TNT
         The Warrior                             5
         The Grey Men                            8
         Man of War                              9
         Bad Dreams                              15
         Kiss of the Tiger                       16
         Map to the Stars                        23
         The Endangered                          24
         The Egress                              25
         Jaunt                                   28

Cheryl Hoffman, NA (& I ain't changin' it), Cousin, NBN, G4, Bridging
"My, my... we are in a mood tonight.." -LaCroix
dayabaygal@y.......       Richland, WA
AIM/Yahoo:  DayaBayGal          ICQ:  30464256


Date:    Wed, 3 Apr 2002 11:44:58 -0500
From:    liv <liv@z.......>
Subject: Re: FK on DVD

On Wed, 3 Apr 2002 08:05:18 -0800, Carla Martinek
<copper6500@y.......> wrote:
>This could be our much sought-after FK on DVD...
>without TPTB having to lift a finger.  Of course, if I
>get this running, I'd be willing to dupe. But I'm
>still in the equipment-gathering phase, so it would be
>a while.
>Then again, I could be totally wrong, and there's some
>digital protection that won't work..  I usually am.
I would imagine, purely theoretically, of course, and not advocating
that anyone break the law, that someone who can hook their vcr up to
their computer could make vcrs out of Forever Knight episodes, or
digital files that could be put on cds (like they do with movies, and
so on, in the binaries newsgroups.) I suspect that anyone who can do
screen grabs could do this, given a cd recording device.

I don't know about DVD's. There are newsgroups that might help,
though. I think that once you have the file, you can probably make the
dvd from it. I don't think it helps to make it directly from the
satellite feed, as long as you can digitally capture the file. That
depends on software, probably.

take out the garbage to reply...

If you can't beat your computer at chess try kickboxing.


Date:    Wed, 3 Apr 2002 10:43:59 -0700
From:    Rose Thatcher <dreamerextrodanar@h.......>
Subject: Re: Magic earring

>That was my fic, and I seem to remember
>the correct answer was 'I Will Repay.' :D

Thanks Bonnie!  Hey, I've always wondered, how do you stop the Llama fur
from getting into you food? <G>
Rome was not built by holding comitte meetings.  It was built by killing all
those who opposed them.


Date:    Wed, 3 Apr 2002 13:17:21 -0500
From:    marg <mytoronto@r.......>
Subject: Re: FK on DVD

Carla Martinek wrote:

 > Anyone else have a DVD/RW and a PVR?  Have you tried this?  You'd be
 >  going digital-digital, so the picture should be excellent.

I have a DVD/RW and have been experimenting with it for the past several
months. Making a DVD isn't nearly as simple as making a VHS tape.

First of all, the various DVD/RW drive manufacturers have each gone
their own way on DVD formatting. Think of the BETA vs VHS wars, except
that there are at least 5 or 6 different formats. So a DVD/RW made on
one machine won't be readable on another one. If you convert the RW to a
read-only format, you MIGHT be able to read it in another DVD player,
but then again, maybe not. Worse than that, even within one
manufacturer's product line, they are  still 'tweaking' the formatting,
so that a DVD you made yesterday may not work on an older DVD player
from the same manufacturer.

the other problem is getting hold of blank DVD/RWs or even DVD/Rs. Yes,
you can buy cheap no-name DVD/Rs on the Web, but from what i've been
gleaning from the newsgroups, these have failure rates in some cases up
to 100%. The brand name DVD/RWs are still prohibitively expensive, IF
you can find them at all.

So, while I've been really pleased with the results I've gotten so far,
I'd recommend waiting a bit until the formatting wars subside and
somebody comes out a clear winner.

Marg Yamanaka  <mytoronto@r.......>
In Toronto, the City of the Knight


Date:    Wed, 3 Apr 2002 15:29:49 -0500
From:    Valerie Kessler <valerie@w.......>
Subject: Re: FK on DVD

> From: Carla Martinek <copper6500@y.......>
> OK, I've got an inkling of an idea here...
> I'm upgrading my satellite equip to include a PVR.
> Now, I'm wondering.... couldn't one hook up their PVR,
> feed it to the computer, and create DVDs?

This would be almost ideal.  The only drawback would be that it would be
the Sci-Fi Channel cuts.

The other possibility is to assemble a collection of original-airing
tapes (Canadian in the case of first season) that are as clean and
non-degraded as possible, and digitize from those.  I don't have a DVD
burner yet (right now I burn my music vids on VideoCDs), but I'm hoping
to buy one in the next year or so, and this is one of the first projects
I plan to take on once I do.  Or, better yet, recruit other people with
video editing setups to split the project with me -- that way it'll get
done a lot faster.  :-)

The biggest nightmare with that scenario, of course, is asking people to
trust me/us with their first-run off-air tapes.  Mine are bordering on
unwatchable (the first season ones have been through three moves, one of
them from Colorado to Ohio; the rest have been through two), and I
*still* don't let them out of my sight.  I've had one too many tapes get
damaged or go missing through no fault of the person I trusted to borrow
them!  All of which means I still have a pipe dream that some little
company will manage to keep Sony's attention long enough to get the home
video rights, the way Artisan did with Kindred.  But I ain't holding my
breath, so hopefully we can come up with a plan of our own.  It's a big
project, but I doubt there are too many people here who wouldn't think
it's worth it!

Valerie Meachum Kessler     ~:O
valerie@w....... ~ www.wiliqueen.com
"It's a lot more surreal this time around. I was in the
lobby having pictures taken with Halle, and she didn't
even know where she was." -- Denzel Washington


Date:    Tue, 2 Apr 2002 16:12:23 -0500
From:    Carrie Krumtum <carriekr@m.......>
Subject: Re: FK on DVD

Another alternative to DVD formatting via computer is VCD formatting.
Resolution is lost but not too severely and a VCD can be read in ANY CD-ROM
drive regardless of operating system or platform.


Carrie, Proud Knightie

----- Original Message -----
From: "marg"

> Think of the BETA vs VHS wars, except
> that there are at least 5 or 6 different formats. So a DVD/RW made on
> one machine won't be readable on another one. If you convert the RW to a
> read-only format, you MIGHT be able to read it in another DVD player,


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