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FORKNI-L Digest - 16 Nov 2001 to 17 Nov 2001 (#2001-347)

Sat, 17 Nov 2001

There are 8 messages totalling 254 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Time question for fanfic (2)
  2. LaCroix, the Party Animal
  3. Help! Need Info for a fic!
  4. use the device...
  5. <No subject given>
  6. Ger in Trudeau miniseries
  7. Mortal Love webpage (or a web page for N&NPackers)


Date:    Fri, 16 Nov 2001 17:25:52 -0500
From:    "Brooks, Julia A." <BROOKJU@m.......>
Subject: Re: Time question for fanfic

>From: MRKKaye@a.......
><snip> according to the World Book Encyclopedia Dictionary -
>    ---- a COMPANY of knights ----

This may the *real* answer, however, I like Kyer's suggestion
     a FOOL of knights
or perhaps
     a BRICK of knights

Julia B. (aka Brooksie) and Allie's Brook
forever Knightie crusader, Les Chevaliers de la Nuit
"And a screaming fine ride [he] is, too."
with Ginger (Woofpack) and Dusty (FoSiL)


Date:    Fri, 16 Nov 2001 17:42:11 -0700
From:    Megan Hull <mistryder@h.......>
Subject: Re: LaCroix, the Party Animal

>BUT, I still think most of us (including myself) have neglected exploring
>the side of LaCroix that was not only comfortable, but successful as a
>*rock* disc-jockey and a very...hmmm...zestful strip show emcee.

I heard it said that "even the most boring, uninteresting person in the
whole world is far more complex than the most complex, developed charecter
from a book."  That's part of what I always found intreguing about FK-- the
fact that the charecters are so insanely complex that they are almost real.
They have mood swings, irrational moments, times when they are completely
'out of charecter'.  And who of us doesn't?  Kyer has I don't know how many
splinter personalities, I can name 8 of my own and 6 of Rose's off the top
of my head-- heck, if I had eternity, I sure wouldn't shrink from playing
around as each one of them.  It's fun!

"Eternal nights too short,
How quickly melt away,
With all the love we shared once,
Forever in a day."


Date:    Fri, 16 Nov 2001 22:28:32 -0800
From:    "K. C. Smith" <tigrlady2u@j.......>
Subject: Help! Need Info for a fic!

Okay... anyone know, verbatim, what the conversation between Nick and
Schanke in the strip club (Dance By The Light Of The Moon) was?
Also, I'm trying to find out if there was an actual reference in the show
to Schanke having bought Myra hipwaders.  If so, again verbatim, what was
the conversation revolving around that and what episode was it?

KC Smith
"I've never met a chocolate I didn't like."


Date:    Fri, 16 Nov 2001 22:49:17 -0800
From:    chris thatcher <mb_the_spy@y.......>
Subject: use the device...

> I don't see Nick as the Shapeshifter/Trickster; if
> that archetype applies to
> any of the FK characters, it applies most to
> LaCroix, whose motives are
> always suspect and who sometimes seems to do 'good'
> in order to do harm, or
> seems to do 'evil' in order to do good.
> Nick is the archetypal Hero, but the Hero does not
> need to die.

 food for thought: so if lacroix is the trickster--and
i agree--where does that leave janette?  (or nat? or
schanke? ...j.k. :) )
as for nicholas, he fits very well into the classical
tragic hero type--you know, oedipus, achilles....  i
could tell you more about that if i could find my ITW
notes from two years ago, but that might be overdoing



Date:    Sat, 17 Nov 2001 06:06:28 -0500
From:    Gabrielle White <singtoangels@h.......>
Subject: <No subject given>

set command: nomail


Date:    Sat, 17 Nov 2001 10:44:52 -0500
From:    Quinn <quinn@g.......>
Subject: Re: Ger in Trudeau miniseries

Lindy Cooksey <lindy@w.......> asked:

>  And he is playing the Northern Magus himself, Pierre Eliott Trudeau in the
>  CBC miniseries directed by Jerry Ciccoritti, which wrapped on Tuesday....
>  We got dozens of the best  actors: R.H. Thomson, Eric Peterson, Patrick
>  McKenna, Polly Shannon, Don  McKellar, Geraint Wyn Davies.

Yup, Ger is in the Trudeau mini series playing Premier William G.
Davis! The GWDFC announced it on our web site (www.gwdfc.org) back on
September 26.
Ger has been very busy since he came back from his family trip to
France. Check out our site for information/updates on his recent
projects: Tracker (screen caps and quicktime movies), Wild Dogs
(articles) and Trudeau.

Ger will also be returning to the Stratford stage next summer in My
Fair Lady, splitting the role of Henry Higgins with Colm Feore
(Trudeau and FK's Blood Money) and Richard Monette who will also
direct the production. Cynthia Dale will appear as Eliza Doolittle.
Ger appeared in an episode of Street Legal with Cynthia and her
sister Jennifer appeared in FK's "If Looks Could Kill".
The Stratford telephone information line (1-800-567-1600)  has no
information on the play at this time. In fact, when I checked with
them after WWG6 THEY didn't know the cast yet! Stratford will have
2002 season information available on November 26 when their web site
is updated.

GWDFC officer              quinn@g.......       ocaoin@e.......
Official GWD Fan Club --> http://www.gwdfc.org/ , http://www.gwdfc.com/


Date:    Sat, 17 Nov 2001 12:46:20 -0500
From:    Mary Combs <mcombs@e.......>
Subject: Re: Time question for fanfic

Amanda wrote:
> what is the canon (is there one) for the dating of
> "Queen of Harps".  My story takes place just after that when Nick
> is on his way to join up with the crusade going to Jerusalem.

Jim Pariott has said that Nick was on the circa 1221 Crusade, aka the Fifth.
There was a pretty steady stream of people heading east on crusade, so you
aren't confined to specific month or year for Nick's journey.

That said, my personal preference for a scenario is that QoH is set a full
10 years before Nick was brought across.

I like the idea of Nick being part of the great wave of crusaders that
arrived in Acre in the spring of 1218, because he would then have had the
experience of both a stunning victory (the capture of Damietta) and the
disastrous defeat (due almost entirely to stupidity and greed on the part of
the crusading force and their leaders) in 1221. That would also cover his
being wounded and held in a Moorish prison, as Erica sees in his blood in
Last Act.

The thing is, the crusades have been numbered by historians, and for Nick
and his companions, there was in 1221 no sense of "Oh well, now the fifth
crusade is over." Frederick II was still promising to come out -- and not
coming. There were well-established Christian holdings in the East, and some
Christian knights stayed on quite happily. If you had the financial
resources and didn't mind the heat, life could be very, very pleasant
compared to what was waiting at home.

Frederick kept waffling for years, and Pope Gregory IX finally lost patience
and excommunicated him. Twice. Once in 1227 and again in 1228. In the end,
Frederick settled what we call the Sixth crusade with diplomacy, not
fighting--and crowned himself King of Jerusalem.

We might imagine that one reason Nick decided to return home in 1228 was
that he was completely fed up with the whole disgusting mess.

mcombs@e....... N&Npacker
"RL=Real Life. It's that stuff that keeps happening that gets in the way of
that other stuff."--Sue Clark


Date:    Sat, 17 Nov 2001 13:18:54 -0800
From:    fkforever <fkforever@y.......>
Subject: Re: Mortal Love webpage (or a web page for N&NPackers)

While the NN Pack Website is no longer available the fiction parts of the
site are still up at







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