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FORKNI-L Digest - 31 May 2001 to 1 Jun 2001 (#2001-173)

Fri, 1 Jun 2001

There are 13 messages totalling 646 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. *KickStart The Knight* June Address Update (4)
  2. PN Elrod Commentary
  3. More Ben Bass
  4. Funny unintentional FK reference
  5. WAR: Call to Arms (2)
  6. Attention FOD
  7. WAR: attention all Ratsie sorts
  8. Blitzing for the Knight: June
  9. Fanfic


Date:    Thu, 31 May 2001 17:25:05 EDT
From:    SField8067@a.......
Subject: *KickStart The Knight* June Address Update

This is  posted with permission from Lisa and Don. :)
Thanks to you both !

This is the most up to date list.
Please disregard earlier address lists you have.
 Post this to any list that you have permission from.

Write for the Knight! (this section is for snail mail writers! (VERY
important to keep doing!)
First i would like you to all know from this point on, our very own  Kristin
is the new KtK letter counter.On behalf of all the KtK crew we would like to
thank her for taking on the resposbility of this enormous task, and also
thank with all our hearts Rae,for doing it all these past years.We will
always be grateful.
Please,Please! write those letters!!! and be sure to let Kristin know how
many, to whom and when you sent them so we can all know how strong the effort
continues to be.We dont want TPTB thinking they are winning and that we have
gone away, do you? her # is:kris1228@s........
Addresses to write to are both on her site (http://knightvision.4ever.cc) and
the official KtK site (http://members.aol.com/ktkpage/index.htm). and
Lets redouble our efforts and really let "The Powers That Be" know that we
want more Forever Knight!
Do not be discouraged just because its not shown now!! schedules change on
Sci-Fi all the time.Before you know it, fall will happen,perhaps if we try
really hard now, we can have it back by then!!!
The main idea is to be honest. Tell them your age,
where you live, how long you've been watching Forever Knight and how much
you'd like to see it back on TV. Do not, however, put anything on the
envelope that might indicate you are a FK fan or are writing about the show.
These letters are often considered "fannish" and you run the risk of being
ignored.Be business-like...explain why you're writing and why you think it
will be profitable to have the show back in production. Tell them what kind
of Forever Knight merchandise you have bought, and what you would like to

For more FK :

Stephen Chao ***** (VERY,very! IMPORTANT #)*****
USA Networks
2049 Century Park E, Ste. 2550
Los Angeles, CA 90067
Bonnie Hammer**** (VERY,Very! IMPORTANT #)*****
Executive Vice President and General Manager of the Sci-Fi Channel
Sci Fi Channel
1230 Avenue of the Americas
New York, NY 10020
Mel Harris***** (VERY,very! IMPORTANT#)******
Chief Operating Officer-Television
Sony Pictures Entertainment
10202 W. Washington Blvd.
Culver City,CA 90
As you know we got this news regarding this:
They are in the middle of a hostile takeover of USA Networks.  V/U currently
owns 40% of USA and are now trying to gain complete control of the Network
from Barry Diller.
This maybe a good time to write a few letters to Mr. Messier of V/U asking
for more FK.
Seagram's is now owned by Vivendi/Universal in France.  Their CEO is Mr. Jean
Marie Messier.  As of Jan 1st, the Seagram's crest will be removed from the
front of the building at Park Ave and 51st Street in New York City. The end
of an era.
This now means we have a new person to target for more of FK.
Vevendi/Universal now owns the rights to USANetworks. So you can now add the
following address to your list of 'people in the know' to write to on behalf
of FK.

Mr. Jean Marie Messier, CEO
Vivendi/Universal Corp.
375 Park Avenue
New York, NY 10152-0192
(Alot of Forever Knight fans have requested that we try asking another
network about FK, to see if there might be an interest, and so, we have
decided to test the waters...
This month we are continuing to ask TNT to consider having Fk on thier
Here are the #'s to use.........

(and place in the subject line: "To The Attention Of The Vice-President of

You also may call TNT's Viewer Comment and Question Line at (404) 885-4538,
however we ask that any phone calls be in addition to letters and e-mails.
For snail mail, send to:
Vice-President of Programming
1010 Techwood Drive, NW
Atlanta, GA 30318
Other networks such as UPN in particular have been re-vamping<G> thier
schedules... buying programs from other networks, as soon as we get  an
address list and feedback # for them, we will post it,and hope you will send
off letters to them as well...
KtK's efforts cannot succeed without back-up from the fans....so please, take
that little bit of time and send those letters in.lets show TPTB that we are
stronger than ever!!!

For more FK merchandise:

Marci Gordon
Sony Product Development
TriStar Building, 3rd Fl.
10102 W. Washington Blvd.
Culver City, CA 90232

P.O. Box 13131
Reading, PA 19612-3131

For more FK books:

Grace Ressler
Publishing Manager
Sony Signatures
TriStar Building, 3rd Fl.
10202 W. Washington Blvd.
Culver City, CA 90232

Boulevard Books
The Berkley Publishing Group
200 Madison Avenue
New York, NY 10016

For FK on video:

Columbia House Video Library
1400 Fruitridge Avenue
Terre Haute, IN 47811

For fans in the U.K.:

Customer Relations Department
British Sky Broadcasting PLC
Subscriber Management Centre
P.O. Box 43
West Lothion
EH54 7DD

The Sci Fi Channel
77 Charlotte Street


As many of you know, KtK recently had its Seventh online
auction...unfortunatly, this time out we came up short of  a good size Ad.and
so we are going to have another auction This month to attempt to make up the
difference.YUP!! We  are going for an 8th one!
 It will be during the month of June,we are in the middle of preparing things
now and we will make that announcement, so stay tuned!!!
As always we are grateful to all those who participate, through either
donating items, or bidding...Every penny of the money raised goes to the
effort of bringing back FK for us all...
do we have other  projects ahead? oh yes!! stay tuned....:)

Please vote for Forever Knight  the Global 100
Charts!! We do know that TPTB are looking at them online, and they are also
sent snail-mail to TPTB, that includes Sci-fi and Columbia Tristar.If you
love this show,please vote  for it on this all important chart!
remember you can go back to renew your votes.they are tabulated once a month
. Try to strive to be a High Level voter too (can vote up to 30 points).
Keep it up and our beloved Knight will be #1!!
Voting Address: http://www.global100.com/item.asp?Item=51259

There is another way to show TPTB how much you would like the FK

Thought Up By wonderful devoted fans such as yourselves.....

It's called "Operation Postcard Overload" as was told to KtK, "When
we all send letters to Sci-Fi/USA, we get postcards back, so why not send
postcards to them?" Its easy! Postcards are everyplace! How about postcards
representing the places you live? England, Austrailia, Germany, USA, all the
different states......
FK fans are all over the globe! Lets show TPTB that the World wants it

Send the cards to:
Bonnie Hammer and Stephen Chao (addresses above) and to Jean Messier!!!

http://www.ktk.op.nu  (the official Kickstart The Knight Website)
This is where to go for all the latest happenings in the world of
FK! updated as often as possible.We have recently added fantastic Wallpaper
,so please be sure to stop over and check them out under the "computer
goodies" section! you will be glad you did! :)
 Anyone that is would like to make phone calls........
(212)-408-9100-for Sci Fi
(212) -413-5000-programming dept.
(note these are New York #'s......)

And dont forget that KtK has a newsletter"The Crusader" we all try very hard
to make this the most complete one stop shop of FK news, updates on the
stars, etc..
and yes, its been late in coming out by a few months! but we WILL have it
soon! promise!!!
We also very much like to include those of you online in each issue.If you
have articles, puzzles, poems, short storys, announcements,new websites etc.
please contact me at: SField8067@a.......
If you would like to subscribe for free online e-mail; knightwave@a.......
it will automatically be sent to via e-mail :)
off line ordering info and back issues that you can read can be found on the
official Ktk website.
And please, If i have forgotten to list anything, or you know updated Address
info for any powers that be,please let me know...:)
Remember :0 Kickstart The Knight continues as long as we know we have the
support of the fans....Lets make sure that this year we get what we want!!!
A winner never quits, and a quitter never wins!
We CAN make more FK happen!!  lets keep at it guys!!
Susan Ellen Field
KtK Fearless Leader  :)


Date:    Thu, 31 May 2001 18:23:20 -0400
From:    "Brooks, Julia A." <BROOKJU@m.......>
Subject: PN Elrod Commentary

PN continues....
>He has more to do in the 2nd book and much more in the 3rd, Siege Perilous.
A THIRD book !!!  Oh, yippie, oh joy!

>Nick needs to get his head out of his ass and get out more.  <GG>
Guess the lady's no Knightie - can I guess at Cousin???

>The confrontation I would see between Richard and LaCroix is along the lines of Harpo >Marx and Lucy's "mirror routine." <GG>
Hmmm...  Not familiar with this scene, but I can *not* see LaCroix as
Lucy!!!  He would want to think of himself as unique - not a mirror image!
He probably sneers better than Richard anyway!!

>I also hear Nigel's voice in the narrative.  Must be to do with how
>terrifically well he performed the audiobook!
Well of course he did!  <gg> I have the audio book of Nigel's and it is

Libs said...
>More comments from PN (Pat) Elrod. I think she's enjoying this. hehehe.
And so am I!

Julia B. (aka Brooksie) and Allie's Brook
forever Knightie crusader, Les Chevaliers de la Nuit
"And a screaming fine ride [he] is, too."
with Ginger (Woofpack) and Dusty (FoSiL)


Date:    Thu, 31 May 2001 18:40:16 -0400
From:    jmtof@j.......
Subject: More Ben Bass


Murder in a Small Town  A&E             30


You can also catch him in an ep of The Lone Gunmen airing on FOX
television at 8PM EST.

Pres, BBFC


Date:    Thu, 31 May 2001 19:13:22 -0500
From:    Kristin <kris1228@s.......>
Subject: Re: *KickStart The Knight* June Address Update

Speaking of those letters, since my last announcement, I have only gotten 3
people who actually wrote some.  Those people were also from across the
globe too. We're not going to get anywhere if you don't start writing again.
We need "everyone" on this list. Please don't give up and lose hope.

There will also be a new banner for the letter writing campaign that will be
up on my site tomorrow.

So please write, write, write those powers that be!
"When you only have eyes for the Knight..."

> Please,Please! write those letters!!! and be sure to let Kristin know how
> many, to whom and when you sent them so we can all know how strong the effort
> continues to be.We dont want TPTB thinking they are winning and that we have
> gone away, do you? her # is:kris1228@s........
> Addresses to write to are both on her site (http://knightvision.4ever.cc) and
> the official KtK site (http://members.aol.com/ktkpage/index.htm). and


Date:    Thu, 31 May 2001 18:28:33 -0700
From:    SLH <jerezfino@y.......>
Subject: Re: *KickStart The Knight* June Address Update

--- SField8067@a....... wrote:
> For more FK :
> Bonnie Hammer**** (VERY,Very! IMPORTANT #)*****
> Executive Vice President and General Manager of the
> Sci-Fi Channel

There's an article over at the Sci Fi Channel Website
announcing that Bonnie Hammer has been promoted to
"President" of the Sci Fi Channel.


:) Boomer


Date:    Fri, 1 Jun 2001 01:00:03 EDT
From:    BJDFKFan@a.......
Subject: Funny unintentional FK reference

This was the opening line in an email newsletter I get from the company that
provides me with some free webspace:

<<<  In this issue...


The things that ran through my mind in the instant after I read that!  LOL!

Becky -- DFKS, DK, IB, DT, UF, Ravenette, Cousin, FOD
http://members.aol.com/BJDFKFan, http://members.aol.com/DKfanfic
We're cut adrift, but still floating.  I'm only hanging on to watch you go
down...my love.  (Bono, U2)
The world was bankrupted of ten million fine actions the night she passed on.
 (paraphrased from Ray Bradbury's F. 451, in memory of Libby M.)


Date:    Thu, 31 May 2001 11:45:07 EDT
From:    Gwyneth Meirionfa <FKWarmistress@a.......>
Subject: WAR: Call to Arms

"War makes rattling good history; but Peace is poor reading."
 - Thomas Hardy


Any factions that meet the requirements listed below are invited to
participate in Forever Knight War XI. Precise dates will be announced in the
near future.

FORKNI-L will now go on a war footing. Any posts regarding the war MUST have
a WAR: heading.

Faction requirements:

Must have a direct relationship to an FK character(s) or a clearly defined
role from a previous war (Mercs, Diehards)
Must have at least four active members (Independents should play as Diehards)
Must have participated in at least one previous Forever Knight war

Faction leaders, please contact FKWarmistress@a.......

Further information will be forthcoming soon.


Date:    Fri, 1 Jun 2001 06:33:50 -0500
From:    Lisa Luksus <tokaara@m.......>
Subject: Re: WAR: Call to Arms


And the Cousins will be ready!  More will be forthcoming on that front when
Cerberus gets itself organized.  :-)=

Cousin Tok
and the Cousinly kitties
tokaara@m....... / AIM Tokaara / ICQ 46441308


Date:    Fri, 1 Jun 2001 09:37:03 EDT
From:    SField8067@a.......
Subject: Re: *KickStart The Knight* June Address Update

Thanks Boomer for pointing that out i forgot to update that fact <G>.. yes!
bonnie Hammer has indeed been promoted to President of the Sci-fi channel, so
please  everyone,address your letters to her with that title..


Date:    Fri, 1 Jun 2001 11:32:51 EDT
From:    MRKKaye@a.......
Subject: Attention FOD

Begun during WW I, today is Officially

                Doughnut Day


M. Kaye


Date:    Fri, 1 Jun 2001 12:16:10 EDT
From:    Libratsie@a.......
Subject: WAR: attention all Ratsie sorts

Just in case there's someone who wants to play as a Ratpacker but is not on the
Ratpacker/Greg Kramer mailing lists, please contact me. Ya dunna 'afta jammy-jam
the slang wit' inny fluid-sea, rest o'sued.



Date:    Fri, 1 Jun 2001 12:03:52 -0500
From:    Kristin <kris1228@s.......>
Subject: Blitzing for the Knight: June

Hi everyone,

Yes, the blitzes to TPTB are still going! I'm going to continue the monthly
reminders and updates as well. Forget what their about or new to the list?
Read below...

This entire month we are focusing on three powers that be, Tristar, Sci-fi,
and TNT!

A lot of FK fans have wondered why we don't approach other networks about
possibly reviving the series. Well, we will continue to include TNT, and of
course Sci-fi and Tristar.

E-mail: tnt@t.......
(and place in the subject line: "To The Attention Of The Vice-President of

You also may call TNT's Viewer Comment and Question Line at (404) 885-4538,
however we ask that any phone calls be in addition to letters and e-mails.

For snail mail, send to:
Vice-President of Programming
TNT 1010 Techwood Drive, NW
Atlanta, GA 30318

Its going to be a big dose of e-mails from each of you the fans that would
love to not only have FK back on Sci-fi's schedule, but want to make sure
everyone knows that we are want more FK with the original cast in new
episodes and or movies!! So, what do you say? Are you ready to sit down,
take that few minutes and send off three e-mails? It could make all the
difference in the world!

Remember, say a little or say a lot, but say it!! We can make more FK

For the "whole" month of November, we are asking everyone to blitz the
feedbacks!!! For the month, you can re-use the e-mails you did before, or
write new ones. They can be long, or as short as just saying, "Bring Back
Forever Knight."

Important info to add in your letters: During this current blitz, we could
ask that an upcoming "SCIography" ep feature FK! So far, they plan to do eps
on "Battlestar Galactica", "Quantum Leap" and "Sliders", so asking them if
they plan to do a "SCIography" ep about FK can't hurt.

Also, Sci-Fi is airing "Sci-Fi World", which is a 6 hour block of sci-fi
programs with a different theme each day. It's also possible to ask them if
FK will be a part of the "Sci-Fi World" programming block!

ALSO REMEMBER!! Sci-fi will be changing its schedule around again soon....
lets make sure that we get Forever Knight on!!!

Sci-Fi's E-mail: feedback@w.......

Sony/Tristar Mail Form: http://www.spe.sony.com/spe/help_feedback_index.html

When e-mailing TriStar,(especially) give as much personal info as you
can...rather than just an e-mail name. A bit more personal carries more
weight with TPTB.

If you have  a FK website and would like to link to my "Save FK" page about
the blitzes feel free to use the banner I made (found on my "Save FK" page).

Long Live the Knight!
"When you only have eyes for the Knight..."


Date:    Fri, 1 Jun 2001 15:04:17 EDT
From:    DanaKnight@a.......
Subject: Fanfic

In a message dated 5/14/01 10:39:15 AM, LISTSERV@l....... writes:

<< Carrie, Proud Knightie who has been known to dabble in FK fanfic ... from
time to time.

Yes, I know this is late, but with my little brother's wedding, life, a dead
modem, more life and other things I've been really behind in my email. I'm
trying to catch up and stay caught up.

I remember being almost ready to post Nightmare when Carrie posted Rage. They
both dealt with the same subject but in totally different ways. The only
similarity was what happened to Natalie, yet at the same time it was
completely different.  (Does that make any sense?)

I also remember working on Devastation when I heard about the FK ep Fever and
wondered if everyone would think I was copying the show. And then I decided I
didn't care, as I had started my story long before I heard about the  ep.
And I even wound up referencing the ep in my story.

I don't read slash 99.99 percent of the time. I am willing to give just about
any story or author a chance. I love to see all the different combinations
out there. It's what keeps it interesting.  The only thing I hate to see in a
story is anything that makes it really hard, or impossible to read - really
bad grammar, horrible spelling, no punctuation (yes, I read a story like
that), misspelling the character's names (and I don't mean simple typos,
although I do hate those too), and really bad writing (plot, characters,
idea, etc). I've seen bad stories which I read because the idea was sound,
the author just needed to work on it a bit more.  I do know how hard it is to
post your very first story (and then every one after that). I know that the
only way to become a better writer is to keep at it (my stories are a prime
example of this).  I remember when I posted Devastation I was sure people
were going to hate it because of the content. I didn't get one nasty letter.
I did get a lot of people who really enjoyed it and wanted more instantly.

I write whatever the characters tell me to write. I love stretching and growing
as an author. I do try to stay within the boundries for the most part
but will let the characters grow. Once in a while I do get silly and
sometimes they may stray a little, but that's okay with me, as who's to say
how they would react in every situation.

I write stories that I want to write and hope someone else will enjoy them.

Remember, writers need to know their work is being read. Even if all you say
is "good story" take that thirty seconds and tell them so. I love to hear
what people liked, what they did not like, and even how they would've done
it. It helps me grow as a writer, and I'm sure I'm not the only one with
these thoughts.



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