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FORKNI-L Digest - 11 May 2001 to 12 May 2001 (#2001-152)

Sat, 12 May 2001

There are 21 messages totalling 578 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Nightcrawler in Italian (6)
  2. Italian Nightcrawler
  3. Best site for potential newbie! (4)
  4. WINNERS! Results of the 2000 Forever Knight Fan Fiction Awards (4)
  5. [FKficDiscussion] WINNERS! Results of the 2000 Forever Knight Fan Fiction
     Awards
  6. In need of a quick 'Fix'...
  7. Nightcrawler in german (2)
  8. Lieutenants & Nightcrawlers
  9. Nightcrawler

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Date:    Fri, 11 May 2001 14:07:55 -0700
From:    Kyer <kyer@p.......>
Subject: Re: Nightcrawler in Italian

Oh Geeez!
Then we could have Nick exclaim whenever LC showed his mug:

Uh, oh!  Spaghetti-O!

:)=
Kyer, kyer@p.......  Don't hit me!  I bruise easily!
My hats off to those who keep pic pages.  I'm having the deuce of a time
getting one up properly.  (Sorry, not FK stuff.  I leave that to Kristin.)
You go, Kristin girl!

----- Original Message -----
From: Emily Hanson > LOL!  The idea of LaCroix calling himself a piece of
> spaghetti is just hilarious.

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Date:    Fri, 11 May 2001 14:30:50 -0700
From:    Klytaimnestra <lbowman@c.......>
Subject: Italian Nightcrawler

According to babelfish, "Night crawler" (2 words) is "cingolo di notte" in
Italian.  I can't get it to translate it as a single word - or earthworm
either, for some reason.
--
Klytaimnestra             lbowman@c.......
Fanfiction at http://members.home.net/lbowman

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Date:    Fri, 11 May 2001 16:18:28 -0500
From:    Kristin <kris1228@s.......>
Subject: Re: Nightcrawler in Italian

Hi Kyer,

Thanks! :) Glad you enjoy them. Your FK page is very cute by the way, and I
enjoy your funny fics. Feel free to use pics off my site, if you need them
for future stuff on yours.

Kristin
http://knightvision.4ever.cc
"When you only have eyes for the Knight..."

> >Kyer, kyer@p....... wrote:
 My hats off to those who keep pic pages.  I'm having the deuce of a time
getting one up properly.  (Sorry, not FK stuff.  I leave that to Kristin.)
You go, Kristin girl!

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Date:    Fri, 11 May 2001 16:39:12 -0700
From:    Kyer <kyer@p.......>
Subject: Best site for potential newbie!

I sent out a teaser part to Fanfic.net for a Digimon/FK xover and it got
reviewed!  The Digimon fan states he/she hasn't seen Forever Knight, but
that this makes them want to see it! (And if *that* isn't a good reason for
writing xovers.. <eg>)

Anyway... What is the best site to direct a newbie too? Kristin has great
pics--but they are only pics.  Mel's site is kinda overwhelming.
Who has a site with a handful of pics, and a little episode/story info that
would be appropriate?  I don't want to scare the fish away with too big of a
bait, but I want to draw them in! <lol!>

Suggestions, anyone?

Cackled with glee..

Kyer, kyer@p.......
Newbie Hunter

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Date:    Fri, 11 May 2001 18:50:10 -0500
From:    monica rodriguez <mrodri14@u.......>
Subject: Re: Nightcrawler in Italian

>From: Emily Hanson <emilymhanson@y.......>
>Anyone know how Nightcrawler is translated into modern-day Italian?
>Need for a fic.  Thanks in advance.
>
Well, it's been quite a while since I used Italian, so I used my dictionary,
which makes all of this painfully literal.  They had a translation
specifically for "said of worms" which I think would be appropriate.
Brulicare.  The ending for "-er" is '-tore' so, I would think it would be ...

Brulicatore di Notte!

Ok,I don't know how accurate that is.  AFterall, the word for worm is "verme."
So what might that be, "verme di notte," just for the emphasis on night? So
take whatever you like from that!

ciao!  buona notte!
monica
always luscious lucius lover

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Date:    Fri, 11 May 2001 17:21:34 -0700
From:    Kyer <kyer@p.......>
Subject: Re: Nightcrawler in Italian

From: monica rodriguez > Brulicatore di Notte!

Oy.

That sounds like something from Wrestling.  Look out!  Here comes the
reigning champion, Brulicatore, stepping into the ring!  Ready to turn the
Masked Spaghetti-O into a 'Pasta' contender!  <Gag  There goes dinner.. ;)
>

What was all this about again?  NightCrawler? Or LaCroix?  My Brain Cell is
down and it can't get up!  Been on the computer too darn long today.

:)=
Kyer, kyer@p.......

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Date:    Fri, 11 May 2001 19:48:36 -0500
From:    Kristin <kris1228@s.......>
Subject: Re: Best site for potential newbie!

Just pics? Tsk, tsk, Kyer, there's much more than pics on my site. <g>
There's of course 1,000's of images by episode (so yes that'd help them
become a bit familiar in a way), dozen's of movies by episode, music videos,
wallpaper, other computer goodies, info, a Save the Knight section (which is
quite important to support FK), links to other good places, and more (such
as my faction pages for IB's and DK's)!

Any ways, feel free to send them my URL... :)
Kristin
http://knightvision.4ever.cc
"When you only have eyes for the Knight..."

> Anyway... What is the best site to direct a newbie too? Kristin has great
> pics--but they are only pics.

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Date:    Fri, 11 May 2001 17:54:33 -0700
From:    Emily Hanson <emilymhanson@y.......>
Subject: Re: Nightcrawler in Italian

<waves hand>
I posted the fic anyway, since I didn't think LaCroix would call himself a type
of pasta.  It just doesn't quite have the right intimidation factor.

Emily

--- Kyer <kyer@p.......> wrote:
> What was all this about again?  NightCrawler? Or LaCroix?  My Brain Cell is
> down and it can't get up!  Been on the computer too darn long today.

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Date:    Fri, 11 May 2001 22:24:38 -0500
From:    "Nancy E. Kaminski" <nancykam@m.......>
Subject: WINNERS! Results of the 2000 Forever Knight Fan Fiction Awards

I am pleased to announce the results of the 2000 Forever Knight Fan Fiction
Awards. There were some close races, with the final being decided on the
strength of only one vote.

Thanks to everyone who participated, both in nominating stories and in voting
for the finalists. We had 145 registered voters, of whom 79 participated in the
balloting. This isn't as many as I had hoped, but I'm grateful to everyone who
took the time to read the nominated stories and vote for their favorites.

As stated in the Awards FAQ, the records of the awards are available for public
scrutiny. If anyone has any questions about the process of collecting and
tallying the votes, please contact me at nancykam@m........

A complete list of the voting results is available on the Awards website at
http://www.nancykam.com/winners.htm.

And now (drumroll, please) THE RESULTS!

GENERAL VIGNETTE
================
Partners, by Cindy Ingram

GENERAL SHORT STORY
===================
Last Things, by Mary Combs

GENERAL NOVELETTE
=================
We have a tie!
Curiouser Still..., by Dorothy Elggren
Sadness, in a Minor Key, by Diane Harris

GENERAL NOVELLA
===============
An Act of Forgiveness, by StormyNite

GENERAL NOVEL
=============
Chasing Rainbows, by Gwenn Musicante

GENERAL POEM
============
We have a tie!
At Issue, by Amy R.
I'll Hide My Shaking Hands, by Kyer en Ysh

ADULT VIGNETTE
==============
Mea Culpa, by Sue Clark

ADULT SHORT STORY
=================
Gentling the Beast, by DragonLady

ADULT NOVELETTE
===============
We have a tie!
Cowpats and Gumboots, by Knightraven
Make a Wish, by StormyNite

ADULT NOVELLA
=============
Day Dreams, by Cindy Ingram

ADULT NOVEL
===========
First Day, by Christine Hantzopulos Hunt

THANK YOU ONE AND ALL FOR PARTICIPATING!

Nancy Kaminski
nancykam@m.......
Awards Administrator

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Date:    Fri, 11 May 2001 20:30:33 -0700
From:    Emily Hanson <emilymhanson@y.......>
Subject: Re: WINNERS! Results of the 2000 Forever Knight Fan Fiction Awards

Congratulations, everyone!

--- "Nancy E. Kaminski" <nancykam@m.......> wrote:
> I am pleased to announce the results of the 2000 Forever Knight Fan Fiction
> Awards. There were some close races, with the final being decided on the
> strength of only one vote.

=====
Emily Hanson
Main website - http://www.starbase-eprime.com
Web Graphics - http://www.galaxyofimages.com
ICQ# 73113057

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Date:    Fri, 11 May 2001 23:51:43 EDT
From:    DanaKnight@a.......
Subject: Re: [FKficDiscussion] WINNERS! Results of the 2000 Forever Knight Fan
         Fiction Awards

In a message dated 5/11/01 11:26:10 PM, nancykam@m....... writes:

<< We had 145 registered voters, of whom 79 participated in the
balloting. This isn't as many as I had hoped, but I'm grateful to everyone who
took the time to read the nominated stories and vote for their favorites. >>

I really tried to vote. I enjoyed all the stories and couldn't narrow it down
to just one favorite in each category. I even reread some of the stories
hoping to narrow it down to just one, but couldn't.  Sorry.

Judy

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Date:    Fri, 11 May 2001 14:30:11 -0400
From:    Anne Terrien <aterrien@g.......>
Subject: Re: Nightcrawler in Italian

>Anyone know how Nightcrawler is translated into modern-day Italian?
>Need for a fic.  Thanks in advance.

The closest idiomatic translations I can come up with are something like

inseguitore della notte (lit. the pursuer of the night but it can
also be translated as stalker)
or
strisca per la notte (he crawls through the night)

If the ammount of English my Italian prof inserts is any indication,
you can probably get away with  just using Nightcralwer.

Ciao Ciao
Anne

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Date:    Sat, 12 May 2001 00:08:44 -0700
From:    Sunny LaCountess <countessa2000@y.......>
Subject: Re: WINNERS! Results of the 2000 Forever Knight Fan Fiction Awards

I also wanted to congratulate all the winners! And who ever said it was
hard to narrow it down to one vote, you are so so right. Took me forever
too and I ended up not voting in some categories.

Thanks to yon too Nancy for all the effort you put in to run the awards.
We really appreciate it.

Sunny

=====
Countess -- Twilight Knightie, Immortal Beloved, Dark Trinity, with UF and
Enforcement tendencies

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Date:    Sat, 12 May 2001 02:27:04 -0700
From:    Cloud <clouddancer@h.......>
Subject: Re: Best site for potential newbie!

> Who has a site with a handful of pics, and a little episode/story
> info that would be appropriate?

How about:
http://www.loftworks.com/fktoc.html

--
Cloud

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Date:    Sat, 12 May 2001 11:18:36 -0500
From:    Eve Dutton <umdutto3@c.......>
Subject: In need of a quick 'Fix'...

After struggling with this little problem for quite some time, a friend of
mine convinced me to post to the list in the hopes that some kind soul could
help me out.

For whatever reason, my VCR does not want to tape "The Fix"--either that, or
whatever deities guide my existence do not think I should see it. I never
have, you see, and since I invariably have work/school on the day it airs,
I'm forced to the expedient of taping. Disasters both natural and unnatural
inevitably plague this event. Blackouts. Fried wiring. Defective video
tapes. Reprogramming of the VCR by an errant family member... You get the
idea.

So I'm extending an impassioned plea to everyone who can help me--I would
really, really, really like to see this episode. I have read the transcript,
I have seen online pics and vidcaps, but it truly is not the same. I can
reimburse you for a tape or send you one, and you will also have my eternal
gratitude. Anyone who's got the resources and a kind heart, contact me
off-list, please.

Thanks!

Eve
umdutto3@c.......

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Date:    Sat, 12 May 2001 19:48:03 +0200
From:    Cloudrider <cloudrider@a.......>
Subject: Nightcrawler in german

From: Emily Hanson <emilymhanson@y.......>
> I posted the fic anyway, since I didn't think LaCroix would call himself a
> type of pasta. It just doesn't quite have the right intimidation factor.

Guess that's the point! Btw, what exactly does it mean in english???
Obviously it has some meaning that just doesn't come across in translations.

My german dictionary comes up with some interesting translations for crawler,
such as a garment for toddlers, a waiting cab, a 'snail', a worm, a swimmer,
... Not exactly initimidating either <eg>
Never realized it means worm too, since one of the meanings given for "to
crawl" is "krabbeln", and with that sounding so similar, I always got an image
of lovely little critters with six feet or more, like beetles! Sometimes humans
"krabbeln" too, toddlers mainly, but I have a little trouble imagining Lacroix
crawling around on all fours!!! (Or should I say, him calling himself so) Hm...
the longer I try... well... :P
So, it's worms, aha! Not really better though, LOL!!! Nachtkrabbler,
Nachtkriechtier, Nachtwurm, my oh my...

Now I dimly remember the name they used in the german dubbing (surprising that
they translated it at all!) It's "Nachtfalter".
A more poetic sounding name for Motte, a *moth*! Butterfly of the night or such.
Now the flying makes some sense at least!
Must admit I kinda enjoy this thread - worm, beetle, spagetti, moth - ROTFL!!!

Uh... some native enlighten us on what Lacroix had in mind...? <g>

Cloudrider

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Date:    Sat, 12 May 2001 19:58:47 +0100
From:    Anja <Narcus@w.......>
Subject: Re: Nightcrawler in german

Hi !

>Now I dimly remember the name they used in the german dubbing (surprising that
>they translated it at all!)
>It's "Nachtfalter". A more poetic sounding name for Motte, a *moth*! Butterfly
>of the night or such.
>Now the flying makes some sense at least!
They translated it because they translate EVERYTHING here...
keeps the population dumb when you ask me... :-(

>Must admit I kinda enjoy this thread - worm, beetle, spagetti, moth - ROTFL!!!
Yes, it's really funny.... <g>

By
 Anja

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Date:    Sat, 12 May 2001 14:19:19 -0400
From:    urtikit@m.......
Subject: Lieutenants & Nightcrawlers

Casting T.F. Stone wondered:
>I though they were called Lt. Mary Jane
>stories.

I thought the term Mary Jane, Lt. or otherwise, was the
nickname for marijuana.  <g>

Cloudrider asked of "Nightcrawler":
> Btw, what exactly does it mean in english???

Here in my part of the States, it refers to those big, fat earthworms
that tend to come out after nightfall.
They're very popular with gardeners -- and with fishermen,
who tend to collect them for bait.
So I'm guessing LaCroix didn't choose the pseudonym for
its actual usage.... ;-)

Lexically yours,
Kit
urtikit@m.......

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Date:    Sat, 12 May 2001 11:43:39 -0700
From:    Sunny LaCountess <countessa2000@y.......>
Subject: Re: Best site for potential newbie!

--- Cloud <clouddancer@h.......> wrote:
> How about:
> http://www.loftworks.com/fktoc.html
>
Yeah, I vote for that one too. A superb site for newbies, just like
Kristin's is an excelent feast for pros.

Sunny

=====
Countess -- Twilight Knightie, Immortal Beloved, Dark Trinity, with UF and
Enforcement tendencies

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Date:    Sat, 12 May 2001 12:04:10 -0700
From:    StormBorn <smolly4@q.......>
Subject: Re: Nightcrawler

Catching up on several days worth of email and, typically me, starting at
the wrong end. <g>

I venture to guess that, rather than the worm (great for catching catfish,
and fun to dig up in the early morning, too!), LaCroix wanted something that
connoted one that slips through the night unseen, or stealthily.  Something
interesting: dragons were often referred to as 'worms'.

Molly/StormBorn
Cousin, Ravenette, Dark Trinity, Seducer, Forum Fanatic, FK Pagan
Abnormally fond of dead guys
smolly4@q....... or stormborn@l.......
http://stormborn.tripod.com/

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Date:    Sat, 12 May 2001 16:51:29 EDT
From:    Judith Lieberman <JudithL21@a.......>
Subject: Re: WINNERS! Results of the 2000 Forever Knight Fan Fiction Awards

My congrats to all the winners also.  It was a good field of fiction. Good
work Nancy.  JudyL

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