FORKNI-L
Digest - 20 Jun 2000 to 21 Jun 2000 (#2000-179)
Wed, 21 Jun 2000
There are 20 messages totalling 794 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Pipe Dreams Part Twenty-Nine/?
2. Fairy Tales (2)
3. Nick and Wrigley Field (11)
4. Admin: WATCH IT ON THE QUOTE LENGTHS
5. FK Alumni (Lisa Howard)
6. YKYBW..."KISS" Song (2)
7. Blitz for the Knight Day 10; Reminders
8. Subject: Re: Fairy Tales
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Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 14:38:44 -0700
From: tigrlady2u@j.......
Subject: Re: Pipe Dreams Part Twenty-Nine/?
I was told that Pipe Dreams part 29 didn't go all the way through on
fkfic-l. Anyone else have this problem?
If so, McLisa, may I repost?
Thanks.
KC Smith
tigrlady2u@j.......
Nick/Natpacker with Dark Knightie tendencies.
"I've never met a chocolate I didn't like."
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Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 20:17:07 -0400
From: Mary Combs <mcombs@e.......>
Subject: Re: Fairy Tales
StormBorn wrote:
>
> For some reason, I can see LaCroix reading "Hansel and Gretel" with an
> entirely different ending, or some of the gorier Grimm Bros. stories.
Oh dear, I know this isn't what Molly intended but I suddenly saw Nick
in lederhosen and Nat in a dirndl approaching the gingerbread house,
when the door is opened by.... LaCroix as Griselda (the witch). (Anybody
out there old enough to remember the wonderful Puppetoon (stop-motion
doll figures) version of the opera?)
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Mary
mcombs@e....... N&Npacker
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Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 20:37:09 -0400
From: Mary Combs <mcombs@e.......>
Subject: Re: Nick and Wrigley Field
Monica Thadine Rodriguez wrote:
> But I realize that I should have been more specific.
> I'd actually like to know what years we think Nick was in Chicago.
Well, we know he started as a police officer during Lyndon Johnson's
administration, so that could have been as early as November 1963. We
know he was still with the police during the 1968 presidential campaign.
And we can assume he was also in Chicago as late as 1986 or 1987 or his
joke to Janette about the lights in Wrigley Field wouldn't make sense.
We also know that he couldn't have stayed with the Chicago police for
that entire time (the never-aging problem).
And he was at Woodstock (with the Grateful Dead).
Otherwise, I think the '70s and 80's are pretty much wide open to
fan-fic speculation.
Maybe he left the windy city for a decade and came back. Even so, I
would think he would have had to keep a pretty low profile so as not to
be recognized -- unless.... Here's a theory.
We know Nick was at Woodstock. A beard would have helped him to pass for
under-30 with that crowd. Maybe after '69 he went, if not for the
full-fledged hippy, at least for the hairy-professor look, and that made
it possible for him to stay in Chicago.......
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Mary
mcombs@e....... N&Npacker
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Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 19:45:09 -0300
From: "T. Floyd" <jflyer@b.......>
Subject: Re: Fairy Tales
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mary Combs" <mcombs@e.......>
To: <FORKNI-L@l.......>
: Oh dear, I know this isn't what Molly intended but I suddenly saw Nick
: in lederhosen and Nat in a dirndl approaching the gingerbread house,
: when the door is opened by.... LaCroix as Griselda (the witch). (Anybody
: out there old enough to remember the wonderful Puppetoon (stop-motion
: doll figures) version of the opera?)
THAT's what they were called? Thank you!
I'm just old enough, and they're back in a Shreddies ad, and it's been
driving me nuts.
Lap
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admin@p.......
http://pineloft.com
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Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 21:39:13 -0500
From: Cindy Ingram <cgi271@a.......>
Subject: Re: Nick and Wrigley Field
Monica Thadine Rodriguez wrote:
>that I should have been more specific. I'd actually like to know what
>years we think Nick was in Chicago. thanks!
I'm on digest, so I hope I'm not being redundant here. <g>
We know from the flashbacks in both Amateur Night and Beyond the Law that
Nick was in Chicago during the 1960s. I would guess, since he has to move
on before people notice he isn't aging, that he probably wouldn't have
stayed much past the mid-70s, at the most.
During that time, he was in East Germany (1966), so he either left his life
in Chicago for awhile, then came back, or he took a vacation. <g>
Nick does seem to have a fondness for that city, since he had also been an
archeology professor at the university in the 1950s. Never could figure out
why he thought it was safe to return so soon, especially considering his
notoriety in the Spin Doctor flashback. Tsk, tsk.
Cindy Ingram
<cgi271@a.......>
"In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people
very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." -- Douglas Adams.
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Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 22:39:21 EDT
From: Jlkerr1228@a.......
Subject: Re: Nick and Wrigley Field
In a message dated 6/20/00 5:37:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time, mcombs@e.......
writes:
> We know Nick was at Woodstock. A beard would have helped him to pass for
> under-30 with that crowd. Maybe after '69 he went, if not for the
> full-fledged hippy, at least for the hairy-professor look, and that made
> it possible for him to stay in Chicago.......
Wasn't he also in Chicago in the '50's, during the McCarthy years, as an
associate professor of archaeology?
And then in Close Call, Schanke found his driver's license for when he was
living in Grennwich Village, NYC, but I don't remember when that was.
J L Kerr
jlkerr1228@a.......
hometown.aol.com/jlkerr7864/f_knight/fiction.htm
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Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 23:43:01 EDT
From: Laudon1965@a.......
Subject: Re: Nick and Wrigley Field
In a message dated 06/20/2000 5:37:38 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
mcombs@e....... writes:
<< Well, we know he started as a police officer during Lyndon Johnson's
administration, so that could have been as early as November 1963. >>
There was a classic Ford Mustang on the street Nick and his partner were
patrolling so it would have have to have been at least 1965.
Laurie of the Isles
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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 08:07:49 -0500
From: Carla Martinek <copper6500@y.......>
Subject: Re: Nick and Wrigley Field
Laudon1965@a....... wrote:
> There was a classic Ford Mustang on the street Nick and his partner were
> patrolling so it would have have to have been at least 1965.
First Mustangs came out mid-64 (hence the 64-1/2 model year), and were an
immediate hit as a "new family" car. Affordable (around $2000), sporty.... Go
figure... I've got three kids, but I guess if you didn't have to put carseats
in, they'd fit.
I can't remember the scene, but if someone tells me what season & ep it was,
I'll go back and look at what model year the car was. The rabid Cubsfan I'm
married to is also a rabid Mustang fan. :-) Show him a 1/2 second glimpse of a
fender and he'll give you the year it was made, the options that were
available.... Weird... must be a guy thing.
Carla
copper6500@y.......
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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 10:46:52 -0400
From: mclisa@m.......
Subject: Admin: WATCH IT ON THE QUOTE LENGTHS
Guys, please. The rules went out on Monday and I recognize most of the many
names who've been breaking the quote limit for the past several days as
people who've been here long enough to know better.
You may quote _four_ lines only of the post on which you are commenting. Not
5, not 5, 4. If you have something else to comment on, then you may quote
another four. But you can not simply quote back the whole post at the
beginning or end of your note.
There are reasons for this rule. I'll be happy to explain if needed. Just
contact me offlist.
If the problem is that private posts are getting sent to the list by
mistake, ok, that happens. I've done it myself. But please tell, preferably
offlist.
I hate to have to enforce rules, but if I must, I will. _Please_ don't make
me.
Thanks.
Cousin McLisa (Lisa McDavid) "That will be Trouble."
mclisa@m.......
Listowner Forkni-l, Fkfic-l, Fkv4s-l
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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 10:50:18 -0400
From: "Cindy L. Clark" <ClarkCindy@e.......>
Subject: Re: FK Alumni (Lisa Howard)
From: "Janette DeBrabant" <JanetteDeBrabant@a.......>
> I know this is probably silly, but did anyone notice that the actress who
> played Laura Neil in "Spin Doctor" is the same one who played (and visits as)
> Captain Lili Marquette on Earth Final Conflict?
According to the latest Sci Fi Channel Newsletter, Lisa Howard is leaving
Earth Final Conflict after the first episode next season. She was offered
the opportunity to come back for guest appearances, but turned it down,
saying that the way she was/will be written out in the first episode, it
wouldn't make sense in the story line for her to come back. Also, she says
that she has other things that she wants to do, but she doesn't say what.
She was also in the third/fourth seasons of Highlander and has a fan group
connected with that series.
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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 11:08:43 -0400
From: "Cindy L. Clark" <ClarkCindy@e.......>
Subject: Re: Nick and Wrigley Field
> We know from the flashbacks in both Amateur Night and Beyond the Law that
> Nick was in Chicago during the 1960s. >
> During that time, he was in East Germany (1966), ....
Don't forget, somewhen along this time period he was in Vietnam.
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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 11:30:30 -0400
From: Mary Combs <mcombs@e.......>
Subject: Re: Nick and Wrigley Field
"Cindy L. Clark" wrote:
>
> > We know from the flashbacks in both Amateur Night and Beyond the Law that
> > Nick was in Chicago during the 1960s. >
> > During that time, he was in East Germany (1966), ....
>
> Don't forget, somewhen along this time period he was in Vietnam.
Ah yes, now there's a very good possibility for where he was in the
early 70's. Do we think Nick left Vietnam after the events we saw, or do
we think he stayed... perhaps until the fall of Saigon? Trying to help
people, with LC telling him it's over and done and get out now?
Mary
--
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Mary
mcombs@e....... N&Npacker
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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 11:31:52 EDT
From: Jlkerr1228@a.......
Subject: Re: Nick and Wrigley Field
In a message dated 6/21/00 8:21:29 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
ClarkCindy@e....... writes:
> > Nick was in Chicago during the 1960s. >
> > During that time, he was in East Germany (1966), ....
>
> Don't forget, somewhen along this time period he was in Vietnam.
Vietnam was about 1971 or 1972, I think.
J L Kerr
jlkerr1228@a.......
hometown.aol.com/jlkerr7864/f_knight/fiction.htm
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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 11:15:33 -0500
From: Carla Martinek <copper6500@y.......>
Subject: Re: Nick and Wrigley Field
Jlkerr1228@a....... wrote:
> Vietnam was about 1971 or 1972, I think.
From:
http://www.uwyo.edu/ahc/exhibits/veterans/vietnam.htm
*****************************************************
The United States had been involved in the war between North and South Vietnam
since 1956 but not until the 1964 Gulf of Tonkin incident was full military
intervention authorized by Congress.
Escalation of U.S. forces was rapid in order to defend South Vietnam and retain
United States credibility with allied nations in fighting Communist aggression.
After years of bloody conflict with no end in sight, domestic support for the
war effort dwindled. In 1969 President Nixon ordered the first withdrawal of
U.S. forces, but not until 1973 did the last combat troops leave South Vietnam,
which soon fell to the North.
*******************************************************
So, Nick *could* have been in Vietnam in combat situations as early as 1956;
chances are more likely he was there somewhere between 1964 and 1973. (Some
sources say we still had troops in there after 1974, but that's another story.)
Using the referenced "Nick as Chicago Cop" scend with a classic Mustang visible,
I would guess Nick to have been a cop in Chicago somewhere between1964 and
1968-69 (and the infamous Chicago Democratic Nat'l Convention - now *that* would
be an interesting fanfic idea...). Sometime soon after that, he would have
moved onto Vietnam, being there betw. '69 and '74.
THEN AGAIN, Nick might have been in Vietnam with French or other forces that
were there many years prior to U.S. involvement. That could *really* throw a
timeline off!
My .02, and of course I could be wrong!
Carla
copper6500@y.......
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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 12:38:07 EDT
From: Doņa Angel <donaangel@h.......>
Subject: Re: YKYBW..."KISS" Song
Sorry, ya'll, but I just HAD to come out of lurkdom to respond to this
one...
>From: Tim Phillips <Timp@d.......> Subject: Re: YKYBW...
>>According to my husband <snip> "Beth" was written for the guy's cat.
>What I've always heard is that Peter Criss (the band's
>drummer) wrote it for his girlfriend/wife who was upset at the time
>he had to spend with the band instead of her.<snip> Criss's face >makeup is
>based upon that of a cat.<snip>
Yep, a VERY long time ago, probably when to song was originally out, I had
heard that he had written it about his wife.
>I like this more than that he wrote a song for his cat - although I
>know first hand how far people will go to keep a favorite feline
>happy. :-)
Yeah, I agree :) Although I love my cats and dog and they are important
members of my RL family, and I'm aware that SOME folks DO go to the extreme
in regards to their affection for their animal and bird companions, I'm sure
this beautiful ballad was written by Peter Criss [the KISS drummer who had
the 'Cat make-up'] for his wife.
>The fun thing to do for a piece of fan fiction would be to take the
>original lyrics - they've got to be on the web somewhere - and
>rework them for Vachon to sing to Tracy. (I'd rather Vachon was
>singing to her than Sydney).
...Ahem....not necessarily "fun" for all of us...
#1--I am a devoted VAQUERA, yet I feel I must remind ya'll that there IS
another lady that our Totally AWESOME Guitar-playing Vampire could sing that
song to, a beautiful, sensitive, gentle vampiress that Javier Vachon HIMSELF
chose to bring into HIS un-life and had been with for about a century and
STILL obviously has deep and sincere feelings and concern for: URS !!! And,
if ya think about it, {although I vaguely recall the lyrics :) }MAYBE it
would be MORE appropriate for Javier to sing it to Urs, as they've most
likely been thru a LOT together but, also since there may have been times in
their life together where maybe he, like Peter Criss, spent time away from
her that he'd have preferred to share with her.
#2--While Sidney Lambert [Nat's cat] is the only cat that we saw on the
FK television series, I understand that in FK War #10, Javier Vachon DID
have a pet cat, Carmencita (right,War 10 VaqVetrans?). So, that may be
something a fanfic written may want to consider and even maybe in a future
FK War [[[McLisa's RL time permitting :) ]]] the devoted Vaqueros/vaqueras
may also consider including The AWESOME Javier singing to his own cat!
*BVaqG*
...Tim said he'd rather Vachon was singing to Tracy than Sidney... no
offense intended to anyone who holds a different opinion, but I'd rather him
sing to Carmencita, Urs, or even to his devoted Vaqueras! :) ...Ya'll are
aware [I hope] that NOT all Vaqs favor T & V fiction... We do know that
Vachon was The Perky One's friend and protector on the series... I
personally prefer the "Raven's Cellar" fiction-- VERY interesting stories
which are about a romantic relationship between Tracy and Miklos-- and CERK
Perk fiction-- stories about a romantic relationship between Tracy and
LaCroix. TRACY AND MIKLOS??? Yep!!! Actually, it's a pretty 'believable'
combination-- and, I highly recommend that at the "Raven's Cellar" site,
ya'll check out Cousin Mary's 3 stories in her "Beauty" series {{{I THINK
that's what it's entitled}}}-- from reading those great stories, you may
come to think, as I have, how a lovely, caring, and romantic relationship
could come about between Miklos and Tracy... in this series, it kinda
develops almost like a RL relationship possibly COULD and would develop
between a man and a woman...{{{Cousin Mary, PLEASE, when RL permits, PLEASE
WRITE MORE stories for this wonderful series; I enjoyed reading it and would
like to read a LOT more of them!!! Thanks! :) }}} There are also some
absolutely WONDERFUL stories about Tracy with Screed... and {of course}
Screed IS a PERFECT gentleman in the 2 I'm thinking of: "Viva Las Vegas" by
Cousin Mary and "Burning the Stubble" by Spike Shovelton (sp?) I believe
both are at Mel's FK fanfic site and they are EXCELLENT!!!
Angel a.k.a. Doņa Angel <donaangel@h.......> <donaangel@y.......>
Vaquera/Willing Slave of THE Glorious Spaniard/Future Proud Vaq
Brat/VaqDreamer/INCArnate/with Immortal Beloveds, Ravenette,Urchin &
DarkHearts Tendencies
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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 12:50:50 EDT
From: Dolpfin220@a.......
Subject: Re: Nick and Wrigley Field
In a message dated 06/21/2000 11:35:43 AM Central Daylight Time,
copper6500@y....... writes:
> So, Nick *could* have been in Vietnam in combat situations as early as 1956;
> chances are more likely he was there somewhere between 1964 and 1973. (Some
> sources say we still had troops in there after 1974, but that's another
> story.)
If you use Casey Brooks as a guide, it would have to be toward the latter
stage of Vietnam.... He doesn't age enough for it to be longer than 20 years
and mentions that he hasn't seen his family in more than 10 years. Also they
mention Bin Loch (spelling?), which I thought was an actual event during
Vietnam....
Janet - <A HREF="Dolpfin220@a.......">Dolpfin220@a.......</A>
Pessimist: One who, when he has the choice of two evils, chooses both. -Oscar
Wilde
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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 13:10:53 +0000
From: Kristin <kris1228@s.......>
Subject: Blitz for the Knight Day 10; Reminders
It's day 10 of the Feedback Blitz!! Go ahead and e-mail the two powers that
be below asking for what you desire in the Knight (you can also re-use your
letters for this 2 week blitz)...
1. Sci-fi: feedback@w.......
2. Tristar/Sony: http://www.spe.sony.com/spe/help_feedback_index.html
..................................................
Forget what the blitz is about? Read below:
It looks like these blitzes we have been doing are getting some attention!
So we at KtK, are going to turn them into a monthly routine. This month we
are focusing on the two main powers, Tristar and Sci-fi.
Its going to be a double dose of e-mails from each of you the fans that
would love to not only have FK back on Sci-fi's schedule, but want to make
sure everyone knows that we are want more FK with the original cast in new
episodes and or movies!! So, what do you say? Are you ready to sit down,
take that few minutes and send off two e-mails? It could make all the
difference in the world!
Remember, say a little or say a lot, but say it!! We can make more FK
happen!!!
June 12th, through June 24th, we are asking everyone to blitz both
feedbacks!!! For the two weeks, you can re-use the e-mails you did before,
or write new ones. They can be long, or as short as just saying, "Bring Back
Forever Knight."
ALSO REMEMBER!! Sci-fi will be changing its schedule around in June, and
again in the fall.... lets make sure that we get Forever Knight on!!!
Sci-Fi's E-mail: feedback@w.......
Sony/Tristar Mail Form: http://www.spe.sony.com/spe/help_feedback_index.html
When e-mailing TriStar,(especially) give as much personal info as you
can...rather than just an e-mail name. A bit more personal carries more
weight with TPTB.
I also made a button/banner for the upcoming blitzing, which you can use to
help spread the word, by putting this on your site (you can get off my save
fk page).
http://members.xoom.com/forever_nick/Forever_Knight
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Reminder: CHAT with Bonnie Hammer (Sci-fi) June 22nd!:
KtK would love it, if as many of you as possible could participate in this.
More details on how to participate can be found on the sci-fi dominion site:
http://www.scifi.com
Or go directly to this site: http://www.scifi.com/chat/chat.faq.html#begin
Now finally is our opportunity to let Sci-fi know exactly what we
want!!!(Lots more FK!) So please, spread the word to any and all lists that
you can, so we all make a
big show of support!!!
**Easy Steps to Get In:
the auditorium chat........
1. Go to SF's webpage (www.scifi.com)
2. Click on "Chat" on the lower left side of the page
3. Click on "Chat Now" at the top of the page
4. Fill in a nickname for yourself and your real first name
5. The default setting is #dominion, so click on that and in the drop down
menu
6. pick #auditorium
And that's it! You're now in the chat room where Bonnie's chat will take
place.
..........................................................
SF chat with Bonnie Hammer coming up on June 22 !!! It's time to on make
her answer questions about our shows!!
Here are the details:
CHAT: Bonnie Hammer, Executive Vice President, General Manager of SCI FI
Thursday, June 22, at 9PM ET
If you've ever wanted to chat with the head of the SCI FI Channel, now's
your chance. Bonnie Hammer, the executive vice president and general manager
of SCI FI, is logging on to talk with you about your favorite shows, the
future of the network, and much more.
Hammer has been instrumental in the growth of SCI FI, including the creation
of the channel's first night of original programming, SCI FI Prime, which
includes the fabulous fan favorite Farscape. She's also responsible for the
development and production of such innovative projects as Steven Spielberg's
upcoming 20-hour miniseries Taken, the epic miniseries Frank Herbert's Dune,
and SCI FI's first-ever psychic-based talk show, hosted by renowned medium
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Find out how the SCI FI Channel is getting better and better, and in what
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Connect your IRC software client to events.scifi.com and join channel
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java chat client.
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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 13:38:31 EDT
From: Jlkerr1228@a.......
Subject: Re: Nick and Wrigley Field
In a message dated 6/21/00 9:35:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
copper6500@y....... writes:
> So, Nick *could* have been in Vietnam in combat situations as early as 1956;
> chances are more likely he was there somewhere between 1964 and 1973. (Some
> sources say we still had troops in there after 1974, but that's another
> story.)
My father was over there for 5 years, and remember, "advisors" weren't
"troops." <g>
I looked it up, and in the episode Can't Run, Can't Hide, it's stated that
the Bin Loc Massacre occurred on 11/24/71. Of course, we don't know how long
he was there before or after that date.
J L Kerr
jlkerr1228@a.......
hometown.aol.com/jlkerr7864/f_knight/fiction.htm
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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 13:46:51 EDT
From: Doņa Angel <donaangel@h.......>
Subject: Subject: Re: Fairy Tales
Okay, after this one, I plan on returning to lurkdom... and, honestly, I'm
not trying to bother Tim :) but...
>From: Tim Phillips <Timp@d.......> Subject: Re: Fairy Tales
>>It's been a trend in fantasy fiction for about the last decade for
>>writers to re-write fairy tales. I was just pondering: what would be
>>our FK characters favorite fairy tales? <snip>
> Cinderella.
> Nick as Cinderella.//Janette and LaCroix as the mean stepfamily//
> >Natalie as the beautiful princess whose father Captain Stonetree holds
> >the ball.
{{{I should warn ya'll, I'm a devoted Vaquera WITH Ravenette and Immortal
Beloveds [Nick & Janette] tendencies...}}} Awww, come on now... LC as a mean
stepfather I can agree with... but the beautiful Janette, who has loved Nick
for over 7oo years and that Nick brought back into vamp-dom because he could
not bare to let her die-- she as a wicked step-sister...?! While Nat is
supportive of Nick in some ways, she does not always accept him and what he
has to do to survive and apparently has no conception of the how Nick being
a vampire/using his vampire abilities helps people and the sacrifices he
makes and difficulties he deals with in trying to live among mortals and
control his vampire tendencies -- even in IWR when Nat begs Nick to 'save'
her dying brother by making him a vampire, nat says thet Nick DOESN'T really
need the blood! Janette, whereas she for seasonns #1 & #2, she does not
approve of his desire to be mortal, can understand Nick --the vampire, the
man, and the person, and as a vampire; she can know how difficult his
struggle is to control his vampire tendencies when nightly being in close
contact with mortals; she may not agree with Nick, but she does accept him
for all that he is and after 7 centuries she still loves and trusts him!
Janette HAS been there when he needed her and even rescued him in 'Cherry
Blossoms' and in AFWTD and HF we saw, IMHO, true, substantial aspects of the
real Janette-- and in HF a sensitive, protective, loving, and humble
Janette-- she is a strong woman of deep feelings, and if ya think 'bout
it... remembering her life (in AFWTD) before LC brought her across, maybe
"Cinderella" would be more likely Janette's story... while LC may not be
exactly the good fairy godmother type :), he did offer her an alternative to
the horrible life she was forced into living, and she had been 'of noble
blood' and maybe living a materially 'good life'--here like Cinderella?--
before being degraded by the husband who should have protected and cherished
her the most (she says in AFWTD about, in her time, a woman belonging to her
father and to her husband, and what her fate was if she failed to 'produce a
male heir') Seems that LC in some important ways rescued her and and Nick
could even be Janette's Prince Charming... And even considering HF, when
Nick made her a vampire again, that's another way the Our Handsome Prince
rescues his beloved Beautiful Princess!!! And away they ride, into the
moon-lit night in The Handsome Prince's Awesome green caddy convertible,
driven by Screed {{{well, Cindy's pumpkin/carriage, had been pulled by mice
or rats turned into horses, so who better to have as a chauffeur in a
Cinderella re-make?! *RPg*}}} as they listen to their fairy godfather on the
radio who made it all possible in the first place!!! THE END [[[Can't
ya'll hear Kyer and the CotK, Ravenettes, IB's and all the lil' ratsies
CHEERING!!! :) :) :)
>"At midnight, Nick's beautiful car turns into a delapidated old
>Cadillac painted a shade of green banned by Geneva War Accords
>(Diving for the ditch just ahead of a shower of tire-irons flung by the
>CaddyWacks).
FYI, on the CaddyWackers list, we had been told that --for FK-- the GREEN
showed up better at night. Which, you make find DOES make Nick's caddy
convertible better to see at night than the dark/black convertible of
another good guy vamp in LA, Calif, in the current tv series "Angel".
...now, back to lurkdom...
Angel a.k.a. Doņa Angel <donaangel@h.......> <donaangel@y.......>
Vaquera/Willing Slave of THE Glorious Spaniard/Future Proud Vaq
Brat/VaqDreamer/INCArnate/with Immortal Beloveds, Ravenette,Urchin &
DarkHearts Tendencies
Check out BBFC Web site: http://www.benbassfanclub.com
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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 14:25:33 -0400
From: Bonnie Rutledge <br1035@i.......>
Subject: Re: YKYBW..."KISS" Song
Dona Angel wrote:
<snip> #2--While Sidney Lambert [Nat's cat] is the only cat that we saw on
the
> FK television series, I understand that in FK War #10, Javier Vachon DID
> have a pet cat, Carmencita (right,War 10 VaqVetrans?). So, that may be
> something a fanfic written may want to consider and even maybe in a future
> FK War <snip>
Carmen/Carmencita is actually a character from my Clare Series of fanfic, first
introduced in 'The Unselfish Partner.' She's also featured in 'Thankless Child'
and the currently-posting 'Survivors.' When Tracy Sue asked if the Vaqs could
use
Carmen in wartime, I was pleased as punch and honored. She's under their control
in any future wars the list may have. For non-war fic, I figure people will
check with me before writing her in anywhere.
After seeing Vachon pet one of the rats at Screed's place in 'Black Buddha, I
decided he could use an animal companion. Considering that cats blink as a sign
of affection,
and mine often whammy me into giving them treats and catnip, a feline
seemed more appropriate than, say, a chinchilla. As the story goes, Vachon named
the cat after his mother. In appearance, I based her after one of my oldest cat,
so
her picture's up on my fanfic site. I think I had someone catch Vachon singing
to
Carmen in one scene of 'Thankless,' so the 'KISS' scenario is entirely possible
<g>
<waves>
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Bonnie Rutledge.......<br1035@i.......>.......Single and Fabulous!
"Whatever happened to aging gracefully?" "It got old." - 'Sex and the City'
"They say that nothing so defines a culture as the idiots it admires."
- one of my fanfic typos
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